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00:14<dcraig>what is the best linode?
00:14<Nivex>sure!
00:14*dcraig buys Nivexnode 48G
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00:17<dcraig>thing won't even boot
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00:21<arlen>best linode is a quiet linode
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01:07<JamesTK>lol https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1402533
01:07<JamesTK>dcraig: !!!
01:08<dcraig>what up dogg
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01:19<JamesTK>i have installed fedora 10 times on my new computer
01:19<JamesTK>doesn't work
01:20<JamesTK>i'm sad
01:20<rsdehart>you broke it
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01:27<Soomro>hi
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01:29<Soomro>?
01:29<Soomro>any one out there.
01:29<millisa>greetings.
01:29<Soomro>hi millisa
01:30<Soomro>i am looking to host a smtp server for my company, can you brief me if this is possible at linode.com?
01:30<Soomro>i am not an expert but can use linux
01:30<millisa>You can run just about anything (that is legal) on your linode. You get root access
01:30<Soomro>ok great.,
01:30<Soomro>and will you guys help me set the smtp server
01:31<millisa>Usually the expectation that you set things up - there are some good docs on using the platform with a good getting started guide: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
01:31<millisa>They've got a professional services group that can assist with things if you want to pay them to do it
01:32<millisa>https://www.linode.com/professional-services there's a button somewhere there that lets you get a quote from them for whatever you are trying to do
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01:33<millisa>There's a whole bunch of guides at https://www.linode.com/docs/ (some are even about mail) if you want to take a stab at it yourself
01:33<JamesTK>millisa: yeah, apparently if something is very simple instead of giving you a quote they give you the docs link
01:33<JamesTK>Well, I would assume they would do that instead
01:34<JamesTK>saves them time for real work TM
01:34<millisa>I've never actually talked to that group
01:34<Soomro>great.,
01:35<Soomro>is there any limit for emails?
01:35<Soomro>I will probably use it for a small email marketing campaigns upto 20k daily emails
01:35<Soomro>is it fine? does it comply the policy.
01:36<rsdehart>Soomro: the policy in that regard is operate within the law
01:36<Soomro>you mean i can send more emails
01:36<rsdehart>as long as you're complying with the law, you can do what you like with your linode
01:36<millisa>You may want to look at https://www.linode.com/tos . . .depending on your definition of 'email marketing campaign'
01:37<Soomro>this is a huge document, will read it later, can you give me an idea., what if I set a email server for sending 25k emails daily (24 hours) to a list that i purchased from an authentic source.
01:37<Soomro>is it fine according to the policy?
01:38<arlen>take a look at the tos and see
01:38<millisa>The number of mails isn't relevant...the content could be?
01:38<millisa>Section 3 is probably what you want to look at. It talks about mail.
01:39<Soomro>"zero tolerance policy on spam"
01:39<Soomro>hmm
01:39<Soomro>well, in my case it will be bit high since i will be sending emails to fresh lists
01:40<millisa>is 'fresh list' a new way of saying 'unsolicited'?
01:40<Soomro>well, yes.
01:41<arlen>lol
01:42<Soomro>do you have any recommendation for 'unsolicited' emails?
01:42<millisa>I recommend not doing it unless you enjoy fines
01:42<Soomro>lol
01:42<Soomro>besides that
01:45<millisa>There are third party mail services that are intended to help you stay on the good side of the assorted spam laws; but if you are just dropping unsolicited lists into a mailer, they'll just end up cutting your service, too
01:47<Soomro>i am not a spammer and don't like spamming too but the thing is i have lists and i need to filter them out and will use amazon for sending final emails.
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01:47<Soomro>i've tried using couple of php/python libraries for verifying emails but nothing works
01:47<millisa>Some of my customers have had pretty good luck using 'sendy' integrated with the aws mailer.
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01:48<millisa>I have a few using 'mailgun' as well.
01:48<millisa>er, amazon ses with sendy that is
01:49<Soomro>i already have amazon ses but the problem is, the block account if the bounce ratio hits 10+%.
01:49<millisa>A few folks have talked about using mandrill, but I don't have personal experience with 'em
01:49<Soomro>and you are never sure how many emails will be bounced in the new list.
01:50<millisa>If your bounce rates are that high, you are likely spamming...
01:52<Soomro>10% isn't a big deal
01:52<millisa>0.2% is a big deal...
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01:59<retro|blah>One might ask what percentage would constitute a big deal.
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01:59<retro|blah>Uh. That came out very wrong didn't it
02:00<arlen>it's ok
02:00<millisa>0.3% ok
02:00<arlen>we'll all just /clear
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05:55<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview free tier only displaying 30 minutes data <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14529&p=72660#p72660>
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06:30<Guest2350>I just made an account , without hesitation, cause, the prices and the discout made my eyes, and now, i have spent my money on a linux server while i needed a windpws one, how can i ask for a refund? havent even loaded a linux vps, just made the account.
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06:37<Guest2350>Your account is currently being reviewed.
06:37<Guest2350>Taking forever
06:38<KaitoDaumoto>lol
06:41<Guest2350>dude wtf
06:42<Guest2350>i should read everything before anything
06:42<Guest2350>now i dont have the money neither the vps
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07:52<dzho>^^^^ sometimes I think the primary salutory purpose of a channel like this is to give customers sympathy for what customer support people have to deal with
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08:34<ranjeet>hello Guys
08:34<ranjeet>I need one help
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08:34<ranjeet>in setup of server with Ansible
08:35<ranjeet> I am learning Ansible. Its very interesting tool. I am trying to creat a Linode server from Ansible not able to think how I can add created server ip to host file? Please help me.
08:39<bylzz>ranjeet: maybe something like: lineinfile: "dest=/etc/hosts regexp='something' line='{{ ansible_default_ipv4.address }} {{ host_name }}'"
08:40<ranjeet>can i have little detailed more
08:42<bylzz>I assumed you wanted to edit /etc/hosts, but you talk about the ansible hosts file?
08:43<bylzz>in that case you can use add_host
08:45<ranjeet>let me tell me detailed scope. I want to create a instance from ansible and than I want to install few applicatio like Tomcat on created instance. from ansbile only. I am confused how I can add host of created instance in /etc/ansible/host file
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09:11<bylzz>ranjeet: maybe try dynamic inventory
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11:25<pradeep>hi
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11:26<pradeep>is there anyone who can help me
11:26<pradeep>i am interested in Linode 2GB setup
11:26<pradeep>does that include cpanel?
11:28<@mcintosh>pradeep: it does not include cpanel
11:28<@mcintosh>Linode Managed Services comes with a free cpanel installation, however
11:29<pradeep>how much does it cost the managed services
11:32<nate>$100 per linode you want managed on top of the linode price. That of course gets you involvement from linode staff to 'manage' things to an extent. https://linode.com/managed
11:33<nate>otherwise if you trust your own abilities enough, you can get a cPanel VPS license I think for $20 or so
11:33<pradeep>thanks Nate. appreciate your help.
11:33<pradeep>have a great day
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11:51<Zimsky>what if I have a terrible day
11:51<Zimsky>does that make you a liar or me disobeying
12:03<nate>Technically he implied to have a great day, didn't promise you would have one, so it would be you disobeying their request that you have a great day
12:03<nate>:P
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12:24<Zimsky>nate: you inferred that
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12:40<NoName>is someone from tech support here?
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12:50<@mcintosh>NoName: users with "op" status in this channel are Linode employees but if you need official support a ticket is your best bet
12:50<@mcintosh>with that said
12:50<@mcintosh>!ask
12:50<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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14:50<Ankush>Sup
14:50<@mcintosh>hello!
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14:51<Ankush>Hey guys, I wanted to configure a private IP on CentOS 7. I am adding this private IP in the file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 but it's not working.
14:51<Ankush>the name of the key that I am adding is 'IPADDR1'
14:51<@mcintosh>do you need to statically configure it? if not, i'd suggest enabling Network Helper and simply rebooting the Linode (it'll save you a lot of time)
14:51<@mcintosh>!shorten https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/network-helper#turn-network-helper-on-for-individual-configuration-profiles
14:52<linbot>mcintosh: http://lin0.de/2ktlEwr
14:53<Ankush>Mcintosh
14:53<Ankush>I'll try.
14:53<Ankush>Hang on.
14:54<@mcintosh>note that private IP addresses can only be accessed within the datacenter (i.e. a Newark private IP will only be connectable to Linodes in Newark)
14:55<Ankush>Yea trying to ping this linoda via another linode. Both of these linodes are in the same data center
14:55<Ankush>Unable to ping though.
14:56<@mcintosh>both of them have private IPs enabled?
14:56<Ankush>Yeah.
14:56<Ankush>Even ifconfig is not showing the ip
14:57<@mcintosh>that's pretty weird - you tried rebooting (After enabling Network Helper) yeah?
14:57<@mcintosh>if it's still not working, I'd suggest submitting a ticket so we can take a look at the Linode and start troubleshooting with you
14:57<Ankush>the network helper was already on. We rebooted the machine as well.
14:59<@mcintosh>that's no good - i'd definitely recommend a ticket then, sounds like something could be up
15:02<Ankush>https://manager.linode.com/support/ticket/7468831
15:02<Ankush>Raised this tickert
15:02<Ankush>Could you possibly take it on high priority ?
15:02<Ankush>If possible.
15:02<Ankush>:)
15:02<NoName>https://manager.linode.com/support/ticket/7467753
15:03<Ankush>Don'rt have permission to view.
15:03<FluffyFoxeh>i'd be worried if you did
15:03<rick111>me2
15:03<@caker>pastebin your network config ... that's the best place to start
15:04<@caker>if the IPs are in there, and they're showing as up in "ip a s" or ifconfig, then move on to looking at iptable rules
15:04<Ankush>firewall is off.
15:06<@caker>pastebin the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and give us the link here, please?
15:06<@caker>!pb
15:06<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
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15:13<NoName>Linode an employee can look over my ticket?
15:13<NoName>https://manager.linode.com/support/ticket/7467753
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15:16<Nivex>wow, imagine if everyone who filed a ticket then came in here and begged to have it looked at.
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15:27<Peng>Harsh
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15:46<Ankush>hh
15:46<Ankush>Was just wondering
15:46<Ankush>Who are some big players running on Linode?
15:46<Ankush>Like Netflix is on Amazon.
15:46<Ankush>Anyone from Adtech or IOT on Linode?
15:47<Nivex>scroll down to the bottom of linode.com
15:48<Ankush>is there any 1-app install for Redis on Linode?
15:49<nate>technically I think netflix is largely on their own infrastructure now aren't they? They just use amazon I think for image content?
15:50<Ankush>hmm
15:50<Ankush>Well doubt it
15:50<Ankush>their entire Open Source software stack is custom built for AWS
15:50<Ankush>like Eureka
15:50<Ankush>Chaos monkey
15:50<Ankush>Infact, I think they have their own CDN, and use AWS for everything else.
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16:13<mac>hey all - quick question, does linode offer any block storage?
16:14<Peng>Not yet, but they're working on it.
16:14<mac>thanks, I presume there is no ETA yet?
16:15<Peng>Um. There might be a rough ETA, actually.
16:16<Zimsky>Soon™
16:16<FluffyFoxeh>^
16:18<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • architect Yves Delorme Bedding sets <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14531&p=72664#p72664>
16:18<mac>Thats a good ETA.
16:19<mac>one more question: if you would be building a site/service and expect traffic from all around the globe, what location would you choose?
16:20<Zimsky>it's unlikely that you'd be getting traffic equally from everywhere
16:20<mac>sure, but I need to choose location without knowling ratio. I presume 80% will be US + Europe
16:20<Zimsky>if you're unsure of the kind of traffic you get (i.e. where it's from), pick somewhere with good international peers
16:21<Zimsky>right, so whichever of those you feel your traffic would predominantly be coming from
16:22<Zimsky>if you have a lot of traffic you may want to consider multiple locations
16:22<Zimsky>that is, quite a lot
16:24<mac>I'm just starting with the service via invite only, so initially there wont be much traffic
16:24<mac>also, static content will be served via CDN
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17:17<Ankush>Hey guys\
17:17<Ankush>How do you create a clone of a linode
17:17<Ankush>not as straight forward as DIGITAL OCEAN
17:20<FluffyFoxeh>the "Clone" tab
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17:41<@mbeach>Ankush: You'll want to create a Linode to clone to if you haven't already.
17:42<Zimsky>LINODE*
17:42<@mbeach>This might help https://www.linode.com/docs/migrate-to-linode/disk-images/clone-your-linode
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17:58<FluffyFoxeh>Zimsky: lol
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18:26<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
18:36<Ankush>the council of ministers must be aware of this.
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19:28<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • SSH and iRedMail Postfix <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14530&p=72665#p72665>
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