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---Logopened Sun Feb 05 00:00:31 2017
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00:22<Cromulent>do businesses in the USA have to pay federal as well as state corporation taxes? Or is it just federal taxation?
00:24<nate>Cromulent: Varies per state, and technically local cities can even impose taxes on corporations
00:24<Cromulent>wow that sucks
00:24<Cromulent>I always thought the USA had low taxation but looking at your corporation taxes it is pretty high compared to here
00:24<nate>Considering there are a lot of loopholes for corporations to work around, not necessarily
00:25<nate>but a lot of companies also apply taxes where they don't need to (EA is a good example of this, as they charge me sales tax for my state even though they don't have to, which means they're -probably- pocketing my 'sales tax')
00:25<nate>lol
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00:25<nate>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax_in_the_United_States#State_income_tax_rates
00:25<Cromulent>ouch
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00:27<Cromulent>I always laugh when people moan about the welfare state system and benefits because they seem to be completely ignorant of how much money the government gives to businesses through tax credits and other deductions
00:27<Cromulent>maybe that is a UK thing though
00:27<nate>to be fair there are metric shit tons of people on welfare who really don't need to be though
00:28<Cromulent>it is bloody hard to get on welfare here
00:28<nate>but it's hard for them to really do anything about it because it takes forever for them to vet peoples conditions after getting approved and if they still should get it and etc
00:28<Cromulent>you need a doctors note at the very least confirming you are unfit for work
00:28<arlen>depending on the state, it can be super easy here
00:28<nate>yeah but people can get those easily, but there's nothing in the note necessarily stating only for so long
00:29<Cromulent>true
00:29<FluffyFoxeh>getting a doctor's note isn't that hard...
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00:36<Cromulent>FluffyFoxeh: if a doctor said you can't work because (and this is a bad example) you had broken your leg you wouldn't be allowed disability benefits because it isn't considered a disability where as if you got a note saying you had severe depression you probably would it really depends on the condition that you have been diagnosed with
00:37<Cromulent>plus here you have to go to regular government funded doctors appointments to make sure you are still disabled otherwise your benefits are taken away
00:38<Cromulent>and they are very strict
00:38<Cromulent>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_Capability_Assessment
00:39<arlen>guy my dad knows lost his leg in the military and has to see a doctor every few years so the doctor can verify it hasn't grown back
00:40<FluffyFoxeh>ah, I see.
00:40<Cromulent>heh
00:40<FluffyFoxeh>lol arlen
00:41<Cromulent>arlen: one of these days they'll use stem cell or something to grow a new leg for him :D
00:41<Cromulent>weren't they do experiments to see how salamanders grew back their tail and hoping they could use it on human patients?
00:41<Cromulent>doing*
00:42<arlen>think so
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01:26<FluffyFoxeh>kinda want to replace Mint on my laptop
01:26<FluffyFoxeh>with something like Slackware, or Gentoo, or Arch
01:27<Cromulent>FluffyFoxeh: I've been very impressed with manjaro all the benefits of Arch without a huge set up process
01:27<Cromulent>can use AUR and everything
01:27<FluffyFoxeh>hmm
01:29<Cromulent>the only problem with manjaro is their forum software sucks but their IRC channel seems pretty friendly
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01:31<Eugene>Every night I'm Linodin'
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01:54<FluffyFoxeh>[33988.327812] md: data-check of RAID array md0
01:54<FluffyFoxeh>y tho
01:54<FluffyFoxeh>I didn't request a check
01:55<retro|blah>I did.
01:55<FluffyFoxeh>oh
01:58<retro|blah>I forget if it's a cronjob or a background daemon that would be configured to periodically check that kind of thing.......
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02:15<FluffyFoxeh>there's no cron job on my system for it
02:15<FluffyFoxeh>it's probably the mdadm daemon
02:15<Matt__>Hi all, what are the hours of the support group?
02:15<FluffyFoxeh>Linode support is available 24/7
02:15<FluffyFoxeh>via tickets or email
02:15<Matt__>Great news. Thanks FluffyFoxeh .
02:15<retro|blah>Hm, looks like I have a system that has an /etc/cron.d/mdadm file. But that's likely from the mdadm package being installed
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02:16<FluffyFoxeh>Community support, such as this channel, is also available 24/7 but may have quiet hours late at night :)
02:16<Matt__>:)
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02:16<Matt__>I want to move my node to another datacenter so this one requires official support. Thanks for the offer thought, FluffyFoxeh
02:16<FluffyFoxeh>yah, open a ticket for that :)
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>i've done that before, it's easy and pretty fast
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>retro|blah: oh, I forgot to check cron.d
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>yeah, that's the one that does it
02:17<dwfreed>everybody forgets cron.d
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>57 0 * * 0 root if [ -x /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray ] && [ $(date +\%d) -le 7 ]; then /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray --cron --all --idle --quiet; fi
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02:18<FluffyFoxeh>dwfreed: I didn't forget /var/spool/cron this time at least
02:18<FluffyFoxeh>:p
02:18<FluffyFoxeh>in /etc I only checked cron.weekly
02:18<FluffyFoxeh>because the site I was reading said it happens every Sunday at 00:57
02:19<FluffyFoxeh>which isn't the time that cron.weekly runs anyway
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02:19<dwfreed>that line suggests it happens on the first sunday of the month
02:20<dwfreed>%d is day of month
02:20<FluffyFoxeh>oh I didn't read the next sentence
02:20<FluffyFoxeh>lol
02:20<FluffyFoxeh>"The automatic check is performed on each Sunday of the month at 12:57 am"
02:20<FluffyFoxeh>"However, the execution is prevented when the day is not equal to or less than the seventh day of the month."
02:21<FluffyFoxeh>too late for this, my meds have long worn off
02:24<FluffyFoxeh>should make it email me if it finds any parity mismatches
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02:31<FluffyFoxeh>though I'd have to patch the kernel to be told where they are, or anything else other than just how many there are
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02:33<mmustac>jkorang: Y0 IM calling you out. I'm putting your name in the streets.
02:33<FluffyFoxeh>mmustac calm down bro
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02:34<mmustac>nah bruh. this 1U sounds like a airplane taking off. I can't calm the fuck down.
02:35<FluffyFoxeh>https://www.alpinehearingprotection.com/
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02:35<mmustac>hmmm... not a bad idea.
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02:36<mmustac>i just need a long enough net cable to put it in my unpacked book bedroom
02:36<mmustac>yes I have a whole bedroom dedicated to unpacked books. was temp, and here I am 2 years later
02:37<FluffyFoxeh>lol
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03:26<Ranjeet>Hey Guys do you have ope app install of Redis like Digital Ocean?
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03:29<Ranjeet>?
03:29<Ranjeet>?
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04:27<Ranjeet>how I can create a image ?
04:27<Ranjeet>or how I can take snapshot like DO?
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04:33<SimonHampel>go to the Backups page
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04:34<SimonHampel>you can take a manual snapshot
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05:46<csnxs>don't tell me what to do
06:12<SimonHampel>and don't tell me what to say
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09:42<rick111>I'M NOT A CHILD ANY MORE
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09:47<ranjeet>how I can create a image ? [14:57] <Ranjeet> or how I can take snapshot like DO?
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09:47<@jdfriedrikson>ranjeet: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-images
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11:27<alanh>Hi! Does anyone know if Linode kernels come with ip_conntrack_ftp built in? I'm trying to get passive FTP working through iptables and despite trying all the "how to's", traffic is still denied from outside. All refer to a kernel module ip_conntrack_ftp but I can't tell if it's enabled by default and I know Linode doesn't allow enabling custom modules.
11:28<@jdfriedrikson>alanh: should be
11:28<@jdfriedrikson>CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_FTP=y
11:29<@jdfriedrikson>our kernel technically does allow for the loading of custom modules
11:29<@jdfriedrikson>but since we don't manage the filesystem, it would take some gymnastics to make kernel and module versions match up
11:29<@jdfriedrikson>if you have any special needs, I would recommend the kernel packed with the distribution https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distribution-supplied-kernel-with-kvm
11:30<@jdfriedrikson>even if you don't I would still recommend it
11:30<alanh>Ok; thanks! I'll check that out.
11:30<@jdfriedrikson>neat. you're welcome!
11:37<alanh>That seemed to do it - passive FTP worked immediately. Many thanks!
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17:13<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Postfix + Dovecot: Multiple IP's and domains <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14532&p=72666#p72666>
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17:42<dcraig>1, 2, 3, 4...
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17:43<bob_>hey does linode come with WHM/cpanel
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17:47<grawity>no, it doesn't
17:48<@jdfriedrikson>$40/mo services all at the low minimum of $10/mo
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18:18<cbirk>guys
18:18<cbirk>are you tuned into this sports ball match?
18:18<cbirk>Super sports ball tournament 2017 - America #1
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18:24<Peng>I hope the winning team is American
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18:34<Zimsky>sport is still a thing?
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18:36<adeel>hello
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18:41<FluffyFoxeh>goodbye
18:42<goose>does anyone have a pile of money I can have to wire my house with cat6?
18:46<grawity>go with fiber instead
19:00<FluffyFoxeh>then you need another pile of money for all the fiber equipment
19:05<goose>^
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19:21<nate>goose: Do you even really -need- cat6?
19:21<nate>I feel like Cat5e would be more than capable enough for most house needs
19:22<Peng>That might change, though, and who wants to rewire their house twice?
19:28<goose>nate: I'd like it, since Atlanta is a Google Fiber city :D
19:28<goose>My neighborhood isn't, yet, but my specific city (Roswell) does have it in places, and its area is growing
19:30<nate>goose: Cat5e will do GigE, assuming you buy appropriately shielded cable
19:30<goose>I suppose
19:31<goose>Price isn't really much more expensive though
19:31<goose>So far my estimates on this home wiring project are $190, pretty decent!
19:31<nate>if you're trying to literally wire an -entire- house, price might kinda add up lol
19:31<nate>why not just do a couple wireless repeaters? :P
19:32<FluffyFoxeh>wireless sucks
19:32<goose>Because I'm an elitist? :p
19:32<nate>FluffyFoxeh: Works fine for me, well minus in a particula room upstairs, but it has a lot of electrical interference so
19:32<goose>Done quite a bit of youtube resarch on how to do it DIY, and feeling pretty confident in my ability to knock it out
19:33<goose>I'd love to buy a Magnepull for the project, but that's $120 for a tool I'll likely use once
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19:43<Zimsky>just use 10BASE2, because you don't really /need/ any more than that
19:43<Zimsky>in fact, don't use a computer at all, because you don't really /need/ to
19:44<Zimsky>tend to the livestock and crops while living out your days sculpting tiny frogs out of pinewood
19:44<FluffyFoxeh>don't even bother living, it's not necessary
19:44<Zimsky>^
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22:04<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • which comes in a fascinating material mix <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14533&p=72667#p72667>
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22:04<retro|blah>Fuck your material mix
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22:14<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Air Max bubble, hook scale trim, laces and the tongue on the clip <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14534&p=72668#p72668>
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22:24<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • OpenVPN clients do not access Linode OpenVPN server iptables? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14486&p=72623#p72623>
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22:35<sean>Hi there! :) I have question related to multi wordpress site in linode, once you insert a new domain in your server how long does it take for the site to loaded?
22:37<dzho>no time at all
22:41<sean>Okii thanks
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23:27<hominhdat>hi
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23:27<hominhdat>I'm system admin from cardano-labo
23:27<arlen>great
23:28<hominhdat>we have created ticket #7467883. Could Linode support team make a faster replying
23:29<arlen>they handle tickets in the order they're received
23:29<arlen>they'll get to it as soon as they can
23:30<hominhdat>:( It's too slow
23:31<FluffyFoxeh>other people have tickets too you know
23:32<hominhdat>ok thank, I just confuse about the speed
23:32<arlen>also pretty sure if you keep replying to it trying to "bump" the ticket it goes to the bottom of the list
23:34<dwfreed>correct
23:35<dwfreed>some support members notice this and retrieve it, but that's not always easy to notice
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23:41<hominhdat>thank you, Arlen
23:43<arlen>you're welcome
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23:52<FluffyFoxeh>the tickets are sorted with most recently updated last?
23:52<FluffyFoxeh>s/last/at the bottom/
23:53<dwfreed>yes
23:53<FluffyFoxeh>i thought about it for a sec and that makes sense actually
23:54<dwfreed>technically they're at the top, and support works from the bottom, but it's the same thing
23:58<Peng>I think what we need is a support ticket *triangle*, not a *list* with tops and bottoms.
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23:59<dwfreed>there are two lists with tops and bottoms, so it's technically a rectangle (because the lists are side by side)
23:59<Peng>:O
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