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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-02-11

---Logopened Sat Feb 11 00:00:40 2017
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01:54<MajObviousman>mmustac: reminds me of HR Giger
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02:19<FluffyFoxeh>john@spydo ~/gits/glibc $ ssh tmux a
02:19<FluffyFoxeh>I should go to bed
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02:45<mmustac>yeah he does look a bit like geiger now that you mention it
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04:53<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Update CentOS 7 image to 7.3 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14445&p=72709#p72709>
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04:59<jerry>IDENTIFY
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05:03<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=72710#p72710>
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05:24<kyhwana>s/RBL/owned list
05:28<arlen>^
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05:53<praetorian>ok i should have done this sooner
05:53<praetorian>time to ignore chanserv modes
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06:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Windows10 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14491&p=72711#p72711>
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06:53<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Mapping multiple IP's <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14547&p=72712#p72712>
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07:13<alfkonee>Hello I'd like to know if Linode has any provision for Pre-financing your account
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07:16<arlen>you can pre pay and add credit
07:16<arlen>oops
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07:20<jidan>install gentoo
07:20<TIMAFEI>install gentoo
07:20<Almazprog>install gentoo
07:20<Pacific>install gentoo
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07:20<wesTT>install gentoo
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07:23<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=72713#p72713>
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07:47<dzho>somehow I feel like #linode is on the political front lines
07:48<dzho>where the internet hate machines send their scouts first
07:48<arlen>we must resist ✊🏻
07:48<dzho>(and by 'machines' I mean bots, but with the rest of the context intact)
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11:14<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=72714#p72714>
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12:10<BaltejSingh>Hey
12:10<BaltejSingh>Can anyone suggest me about the Linode Servers
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12:14<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=72715#p72715>
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13:51<atonium>does linode offer any sort of additional storage without adding more cpus or memory?
13:52<Peng>Not yet.
13:52<Peng>They're working on it.
13:53<atonium>cool. thanks
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14:21<Cromulent>this wordpress attack that has been going on recently has made me really question whether I should be using wordpress
14:21<jiggawattz>go with Ghost
14:21<Cromulent>wordpress security seems to be a bit of a joke
14:21<jiggawattz>nah it's just the plug-ins
14:22*Cromulent googles Ghost
14:22<Cromulent>oh ghost looks good
14:23<jiggawattz>yah
14:23<Cromulent>oh god markdown
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14:24<jiggawattz>what's wrong with markdown
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14:25<Cromulent>it's just a bit of a pain - nothing really wrong with it - I'd just prefer to use HTML
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14:27<Cromulent>looks like I'll have to figure out the Node.js ecosystem a bit - I've never used it before
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18:41<antiraza>ahoy
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18:42<antiraza>anyone awake?
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18:43<Peng>Hello
18:43<staticsafe>no, we are all asleep at the helm
18:44<antiraza>sounds about right
18:45<Cromulent>Hi
18:45<antiraza>i had a question about FQDN > hosts file -- i found a forum post where the question was theoretically answered but i'm still unclear about the logic of this
18:45<antiraza>it seems there is no real value in adding the expected master website (eg. joesmith.com) to the HOSTS file because ultimate the DNS records will serve the same function
18:45<antiraza>is that accurate? if so, why even bother with a hosts entry?
18:46<Peng>My main reasons are tradition, that it might make some software happier, and that it's good not to rely on DNS for core systems tuff, in case you have a DNS outage.
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18:47<Woet>i havent touched the hosts file in my life
18:47<Woet>unless it was to redirect a host temporarily
18:47<staticsafe>I prefer to not touch the hosts file ever
18:47<antiraza>i see
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18:48<antiraza>in my situation i'll be hosting a number of different sites -- it seems i am probably ok NOT messing with the hostfile (beyond the default localhost line)
18:48<Woet>ya
18:49<antiraza>got it -- i assumed this was the case but the quick start guide includes modifying the hosts file as a setup step so i thought maybe i didn't fully understand something
18:49<antiraza>thanks for your advice
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19:55<Cromulent>I hate sites who block you for using an adblocker
19:55<staticsafe>hate is effort, I just close the tab
19:57<Cromulent>hate was probably too strong but I agree I just hit the back button
19:58<Zimsky>closing the tab is effort though
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20:09<FluffyFoxeh>I don't even use an adblocker, just a tracker blocker, yet I get the "no adblock pls" messages
20:09<FluffyFoxeh>because their ads are full of trackers and other crap
20:12<Cromulent>I block all the things
20:12<Cromulent>I'm thinking about blocking outbound port 80 and 443 as well - that should be pretty safe
20:13<Cromulent>heck I could block outbound port 53 as well :D
20:13<Cromulent>or is it 52? *looks up DNS port*
20:14<Peng>53
20:28<dwfreed>(that's why AWS's DNS service is called Route53)
20:32<Peng>Well, Amazon likes to invent new names for things.
20:32<Peng>We're lucky they didn't call it Route 66
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20:48<zifnab>dwfreed: i have a very important network problem, CowBot is missing from #moocows
20:48<dwfreed>unfortunately, CowBot is not an official bot
20:48<dwfreed>I'm not even sure we know who runs him
20:50<zifnab>well, RIP cowbot
20:50<zifnab>he served well
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21:06<FluffyFoxeh>how to be the most secure:
21:06<FluffyFoxeh>iptables -A INPUT -j DROP
21:06<FluffyFoxeh>I guarantee nobody will hack your server remotely
21:07<FluffyFoxeh>(ip6tables too :v)
21:08<dwfreed>they'll get in via ARP traffic
21:08<FluffyFoxeh>drat
21:08<dwfreed>ip link set eth0 down # the only way to be sure
21:09<FluffyFoxeh>my laptop's ethernet is enps902uga908seug0wegua0 or something
21:10<dwfreed>yeah, I disable that on all my systems
21:10<dwfreed>my firewall system has rules to rename the interfaces to something much more explanatory
21:11<FluffyFoxeh>it may or may not solve a real problem (interface names being unpredictable), but I like not having to look it up every single time
21:12<dwfreed>interface names are only unpredictable if you let their drivers be modules
21:12<FluffyFoxeh>and I've never had an issue with "unpredictable" interface names anyway
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21:27<zifnab>i can't stand it
21:28<zifnab>wifi on my macbook swaps between wlps01 wlps02 and wlps03 depending on the time of day
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21:36<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=72716#p72716>
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22:02<JeremyE77>I am not even sure where or how to find the search terms for this. I am not, generally, handling video. Does anyone know of a software that will effectively slap a logo in the corner of a video without much fuss?
22:03<dwfreed>watermarking
22:03<dwfreed>that's the term you're looking for
22:03<Cromulent>ffmpeg can do it iirc
22:03<JeremyE77>Thank you!
22:04<Cromulent>then again ffmpeg pretty much does everything
22:05<Cromulent>JeremyE77: https://gist.github.com/bennylope/d5d6029fb63648582fed2367ae23cfd6
22:05<Cromulent>there you go
22:06<JeremyE77>Nice! My hero!
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22:47<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Mapping multiple IP's <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14547&p=72717#p72717>
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23:16<Zimsky>so my friend was wondering why their laptop was inflating, and just attributed it to a broken hinge or something
23:16<arlen>battery?
23:16<Zimsky>1 of the 2 battery cells has inflated to about 3x the size
23:16<Zimsky>and is near popping
23:16<arlen>fun
23:16<Zimsky>they've been using it like this for weeks
23:16<Zimsky>;_;
23:16<arlen>stick a knife in it
23:16<Zimsky>tempted to
23:17<Zimsky>it's going to be thrown out regardless
23:17<Peng>D:
23:17<Zimsky>I should do everything the warnings tell me not to
23:17<Zimsky>in a carpark from a distance
23:17<arlen>lol
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23:27<Cromulent>Zimsky: the approved way to dispose of a battery is to put it on a fire
23:27<Cromulent>fire solves all problems :D
23:28<Zimsky>except fire
23:28<Zimsky>you just end up with more fire
23:28<Cromulent>nah if you burn all the fuel the fire goes out
23:28<Zimsky>it's like cutting a cheesecake vertically
23:28<Zimsky>you just end up with more horses
23:28<Zimsky>goats are kinda like mushrooms that way
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23:48<howard>Hello does anyone know whether linode's cpu core is faster than Google cloud compute engine's core?
23:49<nate>That's kinda hard to say as I don't know if google has ever really released any hardware specifics on their compute engine service
23:50<howard>I see. The reason I asked this is because I notice linode is much faster than google cloud
23:51<howard>I was testing with some python codes
23:52<Cromulent>howard: best thing to do is run some CPU benchmarking on both and see what the results are
23:52<Cromulent>try doing something like convert a large video file or something on both
23:52<Cromulent>on*
23:53<Cromulent>although I've never had a problem with linodes performance and since the RAM upgrade I haven't needed any extra RAM either
23:54<howard>Thanks. I guess I have the answer specific to my usage on python code. linode 1 vs google cloud 0
23:54<howard>Just that google cloud 's console is much better :D
23:55<howard>can upload and download file directly from the web based console. Something extremely useful rather than I write my own PHP upload scripts. :D
23:57<Cromulent>howard: learn how to use scp and you won't have any problems with uploading and downloading files to linode
23:57<howard>unfortunately, that is not possible sometimes when I in corporate office that has firewall
23:57<howard>I use scp at home though.
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