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01:20<malshar>SNy: not really, im doing a lot of reading ,,, it has to do with TLS and self-signed certificate (ithink) >> https://bpaste.net/show/3ed53bf6839f >>> any hint in the right direction is appreciated
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02:02<malshar>holy moly
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04:37<mash>hi
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05:58<Zimsky>juice time
05:59<Zimsky>tfw juice isn't actually here
05:59<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • mysqltuner reports that I have "basic passwords in the list". What does that mean? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14554&p=72739#p72739>
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06:02<malshar>any chance someone can help me with my issue (TSL/certificate) >> logs: https://bpaste.net/show/3ed53bf6839f
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06:07<Ajay>HI,
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06:08<csnxs>HELLO,
06:08<Ajay>I have recentally change my current linode plan from linode 2048 to Linode 4096 then the storage size shows me only 46GB not fully 96 GB.
06:09<Ajay>If i edit the size then my current image will be lost or not.
06:10<Ajay>please suggest me so i can use full size
06:10<sandeep>it won't be lost
06:10<csnxs>the image won't be lost
06:10<Ajay>and data will be lost or not
06:11<csnxs>shouldn't be
06:11<Ajay>i am running my VM as server so i cannot take risk for data loss
06:11<Zimsky>pretty sure you have to resize the disk
06:11<Zimsky>in the linode manager
06:11<Ajay>yess... the only concern about image loss or data loss.
06:11<csnxs>you should always have backups anyway
06:12<Zimsky>it shouldn't overwrite any data as it's just doing a partition table modification
06:12<Ajay>yes..i have backup tooo but how can i restore backup to current VM?
06:12<Ajay>so can i edit the size of VM?
06:13<Zimsky>yes
06:14<Ajay>Thanks Sandeep & Zimsky
06:14<Ajay>Another thing is how can i restore current VM backup to itself
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06:18<arlen>click the backups tab and you'll see
06:18<arlen>if you're referring to Linode's backup system
06:19<Ajay>Thanks i will try this
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07:16<jack_>hi
07:17<Zimsky>здравствуйте
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07:18<jack_>скажите на Linode есть какой то менеджер или инструмент для управления базы данных
07:18<jack_>?
07:19<Zimsky>большая лошадь
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07:21<Zimsky>отлично
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07:26<csnxs>cyka blyat?
07:27<richardtestani>Morning. Anyone here experienced with Lets Encrypr and other SSL certs? I have a strange misconfiguraiton on my server I can use some help with.
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07:34<arlen>possibly, what's the issue?
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07:34<hawk>richardtestani: Please ask about the actual problem and maybe someone can help
07:34<richardtestani>ok
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07:37<richardtestani>I am having an issue where one domain - www.shopcoobie.com is trying ot load a certificate from images.shopcoobie.com. The base domain of shopcoobie.com works fine and uses a cert from GoDaddy. But I am getting an invalid source error if I try to load https://www.shopcoobie.com, in which it tries to go to images.shopcoobie.com. I use Forge Laravel to manage most of the server, but something happened here over the weekend where
07:37<richardtestani>the cert for images.shopcoobie.com expired but I could never get it fixed. So trying various things never got it working.
07:37<richardtestani>the images.shopcoobie.com cert is from Lets Encrypt
07:37<richardtestani>Ive since moved that site onto a different server to seperate the two and for other reasons
07:42<hawk>images.s.c seems to work?
07:43<richardtestani>it works now, since I moved the site on a new linode. For some reason, no matter how many times I reinsalled a new Lets Encrypt certificate, it would fail to work in the browser. Once I moved it to a new Linode everything worked just right.
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07:43<richardtestani>but https://www.shopcoobie.com thinks it supposed to go to https://images.shopcoobie.com
07:43<richardtestani>im not sure why
07:44<richardtestani>if you do just www without https, it will redirect to https://shopcoobie.com (no www)
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07:44<hawk>richardtestani: I'm guessing there is some mixup as to which certificate to use where in the configuration?
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07:48<richardtestani>seems that way, I dont know where to look on the server. Since I had been using Forge Laravel which is a visual front end to automating routine tasks. It helps me because I dont know much about installing certificates. Much less troubleshooting issues
07:49<Zimsky>csnxs: yob tvoyu mat'
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07:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Windows10 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14491&p=72740#p72740>
08:00<hawk>richardtestani: It helps you until something is wrong and you need to troubleshoot.
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08:01<richardtestani>@hawk - yes it does.
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08:49<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • SSL Name Mismatch issue and other oddities <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14555&p=72741#p72741>
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09:07<tanja84dk>Just a question how long should it normally take to boot a ubuntu on kvm after linode had to take it offline because of hardwre issues
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09:19<arlen>if you have lassie enabled, not long
09:19<arlen>if you don't I think it stays shutdown till you start it
09:21<tanja84dk>It came up now after about 5 min unfortunally with issues
09:22<DrJ>tanja84dk, generally my servers boot to the point where ssh is available in under 10 seconds
09:22<DrJ>what kind of issues does it have?
09:23<DrJ>besides the slow boot time, of course
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09:23<tanja84dk>DrJ: that does my others also so I'm actually sa little bit worried that it were the issue on the host have made issues
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09:24<tanja84dk>first of all when I ssh in then it shows another hostname then the one i have configured
09:24<DrJ>.
09:24<DrJ>sorry, but I didn't follow that sentance at all
09:24<tanja84dk>so firewall and other services doesnt work
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09:24<DrJ>do you have linode backups?
09:25<DrJ>if you are concerned there are problems, now would be the time to consider restoring from one
09:25<tanja84dk>Not on linode no because that server is not that important I have weekly backup here at home from it
09:28<tanja84dk>But I'm also in the middle of creating a tar ball of the important stuff from the backup to reinstall the server
09:29<tanja84dk>but its just sad in a way that linode reports that the server will be resumed in the state it were and then its not happend
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09:36<arlen>things happen
09:36<arlen>that's not the norm though
09:37<DrJ>yea, fact of life unfortunatly tanja84dk
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09:41<HoopyCat>when was the last time you rebooted it before the hardware issue? have there been any config changes since then?
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10:49<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:20<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Issue of SSH logins causing firewall rules to be created, blocking where I am logging in from <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14556&p=72743#p72743> || Customer Testimonials • Ever felt a 'Thank You' just wasn't enough? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14551&p=72742#p72742>
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11:32<Lucretia>anyone willing to take a look at my stackscript to see why it's not setting the password field in my database?
11:32<Lucretia> https://bpaste.net/show/30a24816ffe0 <- search for HASHED_
11:41<ericoc>i never use postgres, but does doing '$VAR' literally insert $VAR ... i would use "$VAR", just quotes not apostrophes?
11:42<ponas>try writing the query to a file and run it manually using psql
11:42<Lucretia>ericoc: it's inserting nothing
11:42<Lucretia>ponas: ahh
11:43<Lucretia>that's a good idea, thanks
11:44<Lucretia>at least i'll know what was output then :)
11:49<zchrykng>Hello, it appears that there is a corrupted image for Fedora 25 cached in the Dallas data center. Having trouble with package management there but Newark and Dallas work fine.
11:50<@caker>define 'trouble', please?
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11:50<zchrykng>`dnf update` fails on a clean install
11:50<zchrykng>https://paste.fedoraproject.org/558076/70876131/
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11:51<zchrykng>https://paste.fedoraproject.org/558084/48708828/
11:51<zchrykng>caker: ^
11:53*mcintosh waves to zchrykng
11:53<zchrykng>mcintosh: o/
11:53<@mcintosh>being looked into right now, should have it resolved in a short bit :)
11:54<zchrykng>Great! Thanks for the help.
11:54<@mcintosh>no problem
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12:18<Lucretia>ok, output the sql to a file and then read it in using -f
12:19<Lucretia>the temp file doesn't have the expansion of the $HASHED_* variables in them
12:20<Lucretia>I just get '' output in the script
12:22<linbot>New news from blog: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes <https://blog.linode.com/2017/02/14/high-memory-instances-and-5-linodes/>
12:23<csnxs>that was sudden
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12:23<csnxs>woo! more lindoes!
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12:37<mrjayribs>csnxs: Yes! I'm setting up a mailserver now!
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12:41<Raj__>Anyone can help with how to setup geo-load balancing on linode?
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12:55<mmustac>wait what happened to large Linode plans with like 2TB of storage!? now you get rid of them...ughhh thx
12:55<mmustac>congrats on the $5 thing though.
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13:12<mrjayribs>Does anyone have a mailerserver with their linode?
13:13<mrjayribs>Opinions on Roundcube?
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13:16<@jalter>mrjayribs: I use mailinabox which uses roundcube. seems OK but I don't use the web interface often
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13:17<mrjayribs>jalter: Gothca. I'm following the https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql and I need to use a mail client. However, I think I've made some mistakes
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13:19<DrJ>holy * *
13:19<DrJ>did I just see something about $5 plans on facebook?!?!?!
13:20<millisa>https://www.linode.com/pricing
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13:20<millisa>they updated the look of the pricing page too
13:20<@jalter>https://blog.linode.com/2017/02/14/high-memory-instances-and-5-linodes/
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13:21<DrJ>I'm proud to say this will be the day I leave that stupid digital ocean
13:21<@jalter>yay!!!!
13:21<DrJ>was only with them due to their $5 plans
13:21<DrJ>had a few servers that I couldn't really jusify spending $10 on when their $5 plan was enough
13:22<millisa>the gigabit outbound on the cheapseats isn't bad either.
13:22<millisa>ending the blog on tantalizing "...block storage service." was just cruel, I say!
13:23<DrJ>why does the $10 plan get more storage but not the $20? :(
13:24<DrJ>just curious
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13:24<DrJ>or I guess I should say all the others?
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13:24<DrJ>never seen linode increase specs like that for just one plan level
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13:25<millisa>hm. the $320 service level is gone.
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13:26<millisa>oh. no. nevermind. I see it just didn't make the new front pricing page.
13:26<DrJ>why are people on the blog talkinga bout the $5 plan being limited to 75Mbps when the plan says 40Gbps in and 1000Mbps out?
13:26<DrJ>https://blog.linode.com/2017/02/14/high-memory-instances-and-5-linodes/ <--comments here
13:26<DrJ>am I missing something?
13:26<@caker>it was a late change
13:26<DrJ>ah
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13:27<millisa>not possible to do a migration from a standard to a high memory plan? (the options are greyed out)
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13:27<@caker>read above
13:27<DrJ>ah, so it was a typo
13:27<DrJ>on the original post
13:28<millisa>I saw " or even resize a standard instance to become a high-memory instance and vice-versa."
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13:28<@caker>read the top of the resize page? Is there not a banner there telling you the problem?
13:28<@nbrewer>millisa: you can resize from a standard to a high memory plan, or vice versa. provided that you're on kvm.
13:28<DrJ>"we’ll be releasing into beta our new Linode Manager" <--Honestly I love the linode manager as it is now
13:29<@caker>no legacy xen and no legacy prepay accounts, for these new plans.
13:29<millisa>ahhh, my fault. the top of the resize page does indeed complain about this account dirty dirty legacy non-hourly accounts.
13:29<@caker>exactly, millisa :)
13:29<millisa>er, this account's
13:29*caker turns the screws
13:30<DrJ>gonna be so nice to have all my servers at linode now
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13:37<millisa>Resizing my znc bouncer down to 1g moved it to an older proc, too. E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz -> E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz (which is fine)
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13:40<trippeh>oooh new egress limits
13:40<mmustac>i love the word egress
13:40<trippeh>just what I needed
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13:45<trippeh>new egress limit needs reboot?
13:45<@aforster>yeah
13:46<trippeh>ah ok
13:47<mrjayribs>Hey why can I only type on this channel through webchat and not Pigeon?
13:51<mmustac>install gentoo
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13:52<FluffyFoxeh>oh wow, a $5 plan
13:52<FluffyFoxeh>storage increase
13:52<FluffyFoxeh>!!
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13:52<FluffyFoxeh>wooooooooooooooooo
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13:56<FluffyFoxeh>I should send caker some flowers
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13:56<staticsafe>so $5 plan means I'm considering moving my one DO VM to Linode, does the usual dd over SSH trick work or do I need to do something special?
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14:06<ArcanePhoenix>Well, not only is my linode's IP on a RBL but according to the lookup, the entire class c is on the RBL. Hope no one uses that RBL for filtering emails.
14:07<Peng>D:
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14:07<staticsafe>what RBL is this?
14:08<ArcanePhoenix>Setting up a mail server to get away from Google and was just making sure everything is in tip top shape
14:08<ArcanePhoenix>spamrats.com - http://www.spamrats.com/lookup.php?ip=23.239.20.1
14:09<ArcanePhoenix>Not listed anywhere else, just that one.
14:09<staticsafe>don't worry about it
14:09<Peng>Worst Offender Alert
14:10<ArcanePhoenix>Yeah I saw that. See that, linode users? You are the worst offenders! D:
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14:19<trippeh>I rebooted one node to get the new egress limit, but it seems a little wonky. I get about 1Gbps on average, but its unstable and has a unusual high level of retransmits when going over 4-500Mbps
14:20<trippeh>5000+ retransmits per second
14:20<trippeh>(yes, I get some packet loss is good yada yada)
14:20<@caker>from where to where?
14:21<trippeh>Linode london to linode london :)
14:21<trippeh>I wonder if it is the host shaper or the network, prob host
14:22*trippeh reboots another node
14:26<trippeh>7600 retr/s
14:27<trippeh>it sends the cwnd all over the place
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14:35<trippeh>I think the egress shaper could use a little caring. :)
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14:38<sarvesh>hello
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14:39<trippeh>did the "40G in" upgrades happen before or after KVM? I dont recall having such a issue when testing back then.
14:40<jstitt>'hola all
14:40<jstitt>Network upgrades were before KVM.
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14:41<sarvesh>is WHM and Cpanel free ?
14:41<trippeh>yeah. I tested up to 10G and it seemed pretty good.
14:41<jstitt>WHM and cPanel aren't included with Linodes by default, you'd have to purchase a license.
14:42<trippeh>didnt do any retr/cwnd testing tho
14:43<@wblew>jstitta!
14:43<jstitt>Mr. Blew, how-are-you!
14:44<@wblew>Great, hope all is well with you!
14:44<jstitt>Definitely. Back doing govt work.
14:44<@wblew>hehe
14:44<mmustac>hi jack! luv ya man.
14:44<jstitt>Heya!!! :)
14:45<jstitt>how's life treating you these days mmustac?
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14:47<mmustac>oh you know...the usual. I'd kill myself if death didn't already come free guaranteed with every birth
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14:48<jstitt>Yeah, that would be inefficient.
14:48<mmustac>miss you though, hope you are doing well in your sweet govnvt gig
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14:48<jstitt>Yeah man miss you too! Yep, doing pretty well. I'm working now just waiting for All the Things to update/install, so I thought I'd pop in and say hi.
14:49<@jackley>hiiiii jstitt
14:49<jstitt>Heya jackley!
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14:49<@jackley>jstitt: how is life on the space station?
14:50<@jackley>"Back doing govt work." I know what this means
14:50<jstitt>Fantastical. It's the final frontier you know.
14:50<@jackley>indeed!
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14:50<mmustac>yeah gov wetwork
14:50<jstitt>I'm too old for that. Probably.
14:51<mmustac>hes the last person you'll see type of gvt work
14:51<jstitt>lol
14:51<mmustac>sure, sure
14:51<@jackley>solid stitt
14:52<jstitt>I do get to work with a bunch of generals even older than me, so it's pretty sweet. I'm like the youngster.
14:52<@jackley>oh wow
14:52<jstitt>INB4 Washington, Custer, etc
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14:52<@jackley>that's cool! older than you... so like War of 1812 stuff?
14:52<jstitt>hah
14:57<mmustac>jack, if there is anykind of afterlife where we get to exist outside of space/time and create matter/energy with our minds, meet me at Berchtesgaden in Bavaria. I'd love to share a view from the Eagle's Nest with you while we have a nice drink and conversation. <3
14:59<jstitt>Would it surprise you if I had been there? :)
14:59<jstitt>In any case, it's a date.
15:00<mmustac>of course not. part of the reason I love you. thanks. see ya then.
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15:06<jstitt>Alrighty lads, back to the grind. See you soon™️️
15:06<jstitt>Be peace
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15:06<mmustac>bye man.
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15:24<@mcintosh>zchrykng: should be good to go now for you
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15:40<mmustac>I would really love to write and storyboard out a Linode anime. DO would be the enemy at first, but im the mid season finale Lin/DO would fight to a grueling draw and the real enemy would reveal themselves. Alphabet(Google). The rest of the season would be Lin/DO fighting together.
15:41*MajObviousman blinks
15:42<mmustac>yeah, and..and..in the season finale Amazon comes to the aid of Lin/DO at the last second. But there are hints that they may be worse than Alphabet. L O S T
15:42<mmustac>wait wait... I mean L I N O D E
15:45<mmustac>*OC DO NOT STEAL
15:48<MajObviousman>I'm not going to steal it. I'm going to set it on fire, then piss on the ashes
15:51<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • Outstanding support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14557&p=72744#p72744>
15:53<mmustac>man, such low energy hate
15:56<MajObviousman>I am le tired
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15:58<SimonHampel>right, what'd I miss?
15:59<@mcintosh>SimonHampel: https://blog.linode.com/2017/02/14/high-memory-instances-and-5-linodes/
15:59<SimonHampel>already have 3 of them ;-)
15:59<@mquatrani>nicccccceeee :)
15:59<SimonHampel>($5 Linodes that is)
15:59<@mcintosh>!point SimonHampel
15:59<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to SimonHampel. (1)
16:02<SimonHampel>more exciting is the block storage ... http://beafunmum.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Best-Lego-Storage-Ever.jpg
16:04<mmustac>MajObviousman: I hear you can rewatch the superbowl advertisements on youtube! For free!!! Can you believe it!? That should keep you entertained for a few hours while the rest of us talk about top tier anime.
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16:06<csnxs>!lick mcintosh
16:06<csnxs>siiiigh
16:06<csnxs>at least make it an alias of !point
16:06<mmustac>dude, you keep trying every day
16:07<mmustac>it aint gonna program itself
16:07<mmustac>someday they will...but we prob wont live to see it
16:08<SimonHampel>more the point we probably won't live once they can #skynet
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16:09<@mcintosh>csnxs: there
16:09<csnxs>!lick mcintosh
16:09<linbot>csnxs: Point given to mcintosh. (1)
16:09<csnxs>yay
16:09<csnxs>finally, a way to lick strangers without consequences!
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17:34<relidy>Network issues in Atlanta?
17:35<@mquatrani>looking into it right $meow
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17:36<millisa>also seeing it
17:38<Peng>Yepp
17:38<millisa>mtr from a zayo dc if it has value: https://vomitb.in/bdJ4Vwa5Rx
17:38<@mquatrani>Thanks for the heads up relidy, millisa, Peng. We are getting a status page up now and are currently investigating
17:38<relidy>!point mquatrani
17:38<linbot>relidy: Point given to mquatrani. (1)
17:38<Peng>:3
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17:38<Peng>millisa: That's about what i'm seeing from not-Zayo places.
17:38<@mquatrani>:)
17:39<Peng>I don't want to overreact, but this is a *little* alarming. :P
17:39<Peng>Good luck with your figuring-out-what's-going-on and your fixing-it.
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17:39<leadstoriescom>All my Atlanta linodes are unreachable, anything happening?
17:39<Peng>leadstoriescom: Yes. We don;t know what's happening yet.
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17:39<Peng>https://status.linode.com/incidents/zz6xpzkccz4q
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17:39<leadstoriescom>OK, good, means it is not my code :-)
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17:40<Peng>It might be if you're a Cisco router programmer! :)
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17:40<millisa>lets not assume anything drastic. it could still be your code!
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17:40<felipetomaz>Hello!
17:40<relidy>!point millisa
17:40<linbot>relidy: Point given to millisa. (1)
17:40<Peng>felipetomaz: Hi :)
17:40<felipetomaz>any problems on Atllanta?
17:40<millisa>Yep
17:40<relidy>!status
17:40<linbot>relidy: I am connected to OFTC as linbot.
17:40<Peng>felipetomaz: Yes. We don't know 3what yet. https://status.linode.com/incidents/zz6xpzkccz4q
17:40<relidy>Doh
17:40<felipetomaz>=/
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17:41<felipetomaz>I open te status page but this not reload the message to me
17:41<felipetomaz>sorry
17:41<felipetomaz>The status is posted 1 minute before I enter no IRC
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17:42<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Atlanta <https://status.linode.com/incidents/zz6xpzkccz4q>
17:42<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Huge problem loading pages <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14558&p=72745#p72745>
17:44<csnxs>!lick linbot
17:44<linbot>csnxs: Point given to linbot. (1)
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17:49<leadstoriescom>!status
17:49<linbot>leadstoriescom: I am connected to OFTC as linbot.
17:50<relidy>!s
17:50<linbot>https://status.linode.com/
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17:50<csnxs>linbot, will u be my valentine
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17:51<linbot>no
17:51*relidy snickers
17:51<ax25>Damn, is it that day again?
17:51<csnxs>where's my bloody slapping stick
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17:52<csnxs>i blame mcintosh :(
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17:52<ax25>I blame the bananna jr.
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17:52<csnxs>i blame alexf, too
17:53<jasvan>any news on Atlanta issue or an eta?
17:53<Peng>jasvan: Not yet. https://status.linode.com/
17:54<jasvan>yeah, I saw the status, was just seeing if anyone here may know more
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17:55<@mquatrani>jasvan: Our Engineers are currently investigating. We hope to have everything sorted shortly :)
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17:56<jasvan>mquatrani: thanks
17:56<@mquatrani>np!
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17:57<felipetomaz>arthurfurlan: oi gato
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17:59<trippeh>hm
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18:01<Eugene>What I want to know is what happened to Singapore https://status.kashpureff.org/dynamic/graph-linode-singapore-Ping-IPv6-3024000.png
18:01<trippeh>ok, seems the shaper/egress thing is doing some bursting logic, and once the bucket is full tcp gets a little angry
18:01<arthurfurlan>"We don't have any information yet as to what exactly happened." (from Linode Support)
18:01<Peng>Eugene: Island started to float away.
18:02<Eugene>Go figure
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18:02<Eugene>I /could/ file a ticket about it, but i don't have any nodes there and also I'm not drunk
18:02<dwfreed>trippeh: I don't know how the outbound limits are implemented on KVM, but on Xen, it was a *very* simple token bucket filter
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18:02<trippeh>dwfreed: yeah, I seem to recall this working better under Xen
18:03<dwfreed>trippeh: either way, you're probably best off with a fq_codel qdisc set slightly under your bandwidth limit
18:03<leadstoriescom>Did Trump just build a firewall around Atlanta to keep the Mexican websites out?
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18:03<trippeh>this one allows for like 2Gbps for like 1 second
18:03<Eugene>No, this time it was the Cthulian Lives Matter guys
18:03<trippeh>on a 1000Mbps limit
18:03<leadstoriescom>Or Russian hackers again...
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18:04<trippeh>dwfreed: that is what I've usually done yes
18:04<trippeh>but hit some snag
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18:04<trippeh>maybe hfsc doesnt like virt at higher speeds
18:04<dwfreed>trippeh: I just wish Linux QoS was better documented
18:04<leadstoriescom>Roses are red, violets are blue, my servers are down and I bet yours are too...
18:05<Peng>leadstoriescom: :3
18:05<Peng>Happy Valentine's Day everyone
18:05<Peng>Us and the on-duty Linode staff and the on-duty Zayo staff are gonna have a great evening together
18:05<Peng>...that mighta came out wrong
18:05<@mquatrani>all: looks like we have a power failue in Atlanta https://status.linode.com/
18:05<trippeh>oops
18:05<relidy>Peng: It came out exactly as you intended :)
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18:06<Peng>mquatrani: Is the portion of hosts "all of them"? :P
18:06<leadstoriescom>Over half an hour, time to get the Scotch out...
18:06<trippeh>mquatrani: bad timing with the announcement and stuff ;)
18:06<millisa>(I just got recovery from my atl node)
18:06<@mquatrani>Peng: no just a subset of our hosts
18:06<millisa>(uptime 0min)
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18:07<Peng>mquatrani: That's a subset of nice. :)
18:08<leadstoriescom>https://twitter.com/mschenk/status/831641083201277953
18:08<dwfreed>technically speaking, "everything" is a subset of "everything"
18:09<Peng>One lonely admin host in the corner of the data center
18:09<@jalter>also a superset
18:09<Peng>Plugged into a car battery
18:10<@jalter>Peng: for a moment i thought you wrote that a lonely admin was plugged into a car battery. Much sadder image
18:10<Eugene>Por que no los dos?
18:10<Peng>D:
18:10<millisa>how else do you get them to do their job?
18:10<Peng>Robot admins, I KNEW IT!
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18:11<millisa>http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/archer_electric_torture_2_3438.png
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18:15<jasvan>so now I'm picturing this poor robot admin wheeling out one DieHard battery at a time, attaching to a server, powering it up, then going to grab the next battery...
18:16<jasvan>woot, he just made it to my server. I'm up now.
18:16<millisa>go robot go
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18:16<Peng>I'm up
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18:17<Peng>IPv6 might be iffy
18:17<Peng>nvm, IPv6 seems pretty good
18:17<DrJ>is only part of atlanta back up?
18:17<DrJ>2 of mine have booted back up just fine
18:18<DrJ>two others are stuck in a lassie boot for around 10 minutes now
18:18<dwfreed>they don't boot every host and every linode at once
18:18<Peng>Oh dear, i've been up for 20 minutes. D:
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18:21<DrJ>yea, exactly 20 minutes for one of mine
18:21<DrJ>nada on 2 others
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18:22<trippeh>datacenter close to where I live had a big DC UPS *explode* the other day
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18:22<trippeh>took out a lot of infra
18:23<trippeh>including the so called redudant power
18:24<trippeh>some Verizon DC
18:24<FluffyFoxeh>you need redundancy for your redundancy
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18:40<zifnab>Eugene: you misspelled porkay
18:40<zifnab>https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/831499781310644224
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18:42<Eugene>zifnab - not tonight, I have "plans"
18:42<zifnab>Eugene: wasn't asking, I assume everyone who isn't single has "plans"
18:42<zifnab>my intention is to go play the $50 worth of humble bundle games i just bought
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18:42<Eugene>You should go out to Kangaroo & Kiwi instead
18:42<Eugene>What's the worst that could happen?
18:42<zifnab>(btw - i highly recommend https://www.humblebundle.com/freedom)
18:43<zifnab>"meh"
18:43<zifnab>any other night is going to be better than "I'm the lone single person in a bar"
18:43<Eugene>....its a singles bar
18:44<zifnab>...is it?
18:44<zifnab>i don't know this shit
18:44<Eugene>We told you, its infested with cougars
18:44<zifnab>oh, yeah, no
18:45<zifnab>that age difference will forever be ruined for me
18:45<zifnab>(blame mom having kids young)
18:45<Eugene>If you wait long enough the difference goes away
18:47<relidy>mquatrani: Is it useful to note at this point that one of my machines is booted and has been for quite some time (I can access via LiSH), but isn't Internet accessible yet?
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18:48<@mquatrani>relidy: yep any info is always appreciated. We are working to verify networking now.
18:48<@mcintosh>relidy: what host is it on? (should show in the bottom right corner of the dashboard)
18:48<dand>are there hosts with different KVM version? can it affect the VPS performance?
18:48<dwfreed>it's also mentioned in lish
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18:48<@caker>dand: nah, not really
18:48<relidy>mquatrani: h654-atl1
18:48<@mquatrani>thx!
18:48<dand>caker: that's the response I got from support
18:49<trippeh>the new higher egress limits really made my db heavy apps happier
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18:49<dand>caker: we had performance issues and been told that it was because of older KVM stack
18:49<leadstoriescom>Two of my boxes seem to be running again, one is only accessible via lish
18:49<relidy>mquatrani mcintosh: I'll be happy to provide any other info that would help. Just let me know what would be useful.
18:49<trippeh>even if it is a bit bursty
18:50<dand>caker: now I'm afraid to resize and order more linodes because I don't know if I'll land on a "good" or "bad" host
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18:50<@caker>dand: well, that was wrong information.
18:51<@caker>KVM plays such a small role, anyhow. The real heavy lifting is QEMU and it gets no credit :)
18:51<@mquatrani>relidy: thx! The affected host is the biggest help here
18:51<@caker>(which we update without host reboots or anyhting - so you can assume you're on the latest qemu when you reboot)
18:52<leadstoriescom>Is networking up on atlanta583 (KVM)?
18:52<dand>caker: is there a chance you can look at tickets 7444585 and 7514379?
18:52<beefy>mquatrani: I've got boxes on atlanta622 and atlanta623 which are accessible from lish only
18:53<dand>caker we got the same response two weeks ago about old KVM stack
18:53<trippeh>caker: Pretty sure supports definition of "KVM stack" includes QEMU tho
18:53<trippeh>;)
18:53<@caker>dand: I'd be happy to, but a little busy at the moment
18:53<leadstoriescom>I can't ping google when I'm logged in with lish, and I can't get in via ssh or apache
18:53<@caker>trippeh: nope.
18:53<@caker>same qemu everywhere.
18:53<dand>caker: if your support staff giving wrong info that might be important
18:53<dand>thank you anyway
18:54<dand>caker: "It looks like when we migrated your Linode it landed on a host running an older version of our KVM stack."
18:54<@mquatrani>beefy: thx!
18:54<trippeh>caker: still. (but good to know it should be the same everywhere)
18:54<trippeh>(same qemu that is)
18:54<@caker>dand: there was a bug in older stacks that would cause stalls in the guests.
18:55<@caker>maybe that's what they meant?
18:56<dand>caker: why there are still hosts with this bug today?
18:56<dand>and how I can be sure I won't land on a host with this bug?
18:56<@caker>because we wait until we have known good stacks that aren't exchanging one set of problems for another
18:56<dand>what do you mean by stalls in guests?
18:56<@caker>well, considering most of Atlanta rebooted, you're probably safe
18:56<dand>can it cause udp packet loss?
18:57<dand>I'm in London, not Atlanta
18:57<@caker>insert udp joke here? ah, ok
18:57<dwfreed>caker: I'd tell you a UDP joke, but I don't know if you'll get it
18:57<@caker>bingo
18:57<dand>yes, it's very funny that we lost customers because a known bug in your KVM stack
18:58<dand>btu I don't know if you'll get it
18:58<@caker>thanks for the snark. Listen, we do our best job here. We work on stuff to be as safe and reliable as possible. We don't enjoy taking risks, so some things take time. We're not trying to make you lose customers - sorry, that sucks.
18:59<@caker>But, our goals are aligned here - we're on the same team. Sorry you're frustrated.
18:59<relidy>!point caker
18:59<linbot>relidy: Point given to caker. (1)
19:01<cbirk>dam son look at these new prices
19:02<@caker>dand: looking at your ticket history and internal notes, your Linodes were OOMing. I'd suspect that before anything on our side.
19:02<cbirk>might wanna go with a high memory plan
19:02<cbirk>:D
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19:06<MajObviousman>someone go buy the Mitnick book and tell me if it sucks or not
19:07<alexf>csnxs: NO U!
19:07<cbirk>just download it MajObviousman
19:07<leadstoriescom>My linode on atlanta583 (KVM) doesn't seem to have network (cant ssh in, can't ping out). Is that going to resolve itself or do I need to reboot or something?
19:07<cbirk>its kevin mitnick, it probably sucks
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19:07<MajObviousman>zifnab: unsafe assumption. We did our plans Saturday evening. And again on Sunday.
19:07<zifnab>MajObviousman: "meh"
19:08<zifnab>oh god atlanta's out isn't it
19:09<zifnab>suprised there's not more of a disaster
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19:10<@mcintosh>leadstoriescom: we're looking now
19:10<MajObviousman>zifnab: this humble bundle is like 700 hours of things
19:10<zifnab>oh yeah, its fantastic
19:10<leadstoriescom>mcintosh: thanks
19:10<cruxeternus>ooo, new humble bundle?
19:10<zifnab>its worth every penny
19:10<MajObviousman>sounds horrifying
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19:11<beefy>mcintosh: have you guys identified a common issue affecting all the hosts that seem to be up but without network connectivity?
19:11<staticsafe>start with the Witness, you'll never play the other games :P
19:11<zifnab>cruxeternus: yeah, its the 'humble freedom bundle', money goes to aclu/dwb/someone-else
19:11<zifnab>its my valentines gift to me because 'lol single'
19:13<MajObviousman>you don't need a reason to buy yourself things, you know
19:13<MajObviousman>you're (ostensibly) an adult. Just buy it.
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19:17<zifnab>that is a dangerous path
19:18<zifnab>"Why did you spend an entire paycheck on legos instead of rent?"
19:18<zifnab>"I'm an adult, damn it"
19:18<millisa>"I built a house!"
19:18<dwfreed>"good, now you can live in it; here's your eviction notice"
19:18<millisa>This is one of the best evenings to go from restaurant to restaurant picking out some random couple to go up to and shout "I KNEW I'D FIND YOU HERE! YOU BASTARD!" then run out.
19:19<Jon[m]>Yeah I got this bundle mostly because the money went to the ACLU/DWB - the games were just a bonus this time around
19:19<Peng>millisa: ESPECIALLY IN ATLANTA
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19:29<MajObviousman>what is it with Atlanta anyway
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19:30<Peng>it's that ocean breeze, causes corrosion
19:30<relidy>Too close to Florida.
19:30<Peng>And the gators
19:30<millisa>chokes in the second half
19:34<dand>caker: by OOMing you mean that I ran out of RAM?
19:35<cbirk>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=OOMing
19:35<Peng>dand: yeah
19:35<@nbrewer>dand: yes
19:35<millisa>or mana.
19:36<cbirk>^
19:36<cbirk>i have no more mana
19:36<millisa>my linode is the worst healer ever.
19:36<cbirk>hahah
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19:37<MajObviousman>millisa: ohhhhh man that's cold. And inaccurate, it was mostly just the last quarter
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19:37<dand>caker: I didn't ran out of RAM, not sure what from the ticket tell you that.
19:38<dwfreed>MajObviousman: the last quarter is still part of the second half, isn't it?
19:38*dwfreed ducks
19:38<millisa>a subset even!
19:40<MajObviousman>you are technically correct
19:42<dand>is there a way to see the kvm version from the guest?
19:43<dwfreed>it might be in the kernel printk buffer; otherwise, probably not
19:44<@nbrewer>dand: no, there's not
19:45<dand>so some hosts have kvm that stalls the guests and there is no way to detect that?
19:47<millisa>dmidecode's chassis information gives a hint on the version line doesn't it?
19:48<dwfreed>millisa: that's probably QEMU version
19:48<millisa>yeah
19:48<millisa>my mixup
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19:50<beefy>caker: I see the status update says that all but one host has resumed normal operation, but I've got nodes on two different hosts that are still not responding to anything except lish.
19:51<Peng>Weird network issues aren't necessarily a host issue
19:51<@tasaro>beefy: If you haven't already, please open a support ticket and we'll take a closer look.
19:53<leadstoriescom>tasaro: I've also just opened one for the same issue
19:54<leadstoriescom>Two of my Atlanta linodes are just fine, third one is up but has no network...
19:56<@mquatrani>thx leadstoriescom we will take a look
20:02<@caker>dand: you did run out of RAM - on two of the Linodes, according to _internal_ notes on one of your tickets (I think the latest one).
20:02<@caker>dand: in fact, looking at the logs, one of your Linodes has OOMs on its console right now
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20:05<dand>caker: how can I see it?
20:05<Peng>!lish
20:05<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
20:05<@mquatrani>!point Peng
20:05<linbot>mquatrani: Point given to Peng. (1)
20:05<Peng>Such messages show up in lish, but you can also probably see them somewhere in /var/log
20:05<@caker>dmesg , kern.log, but best is to look at lish console
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20:06<@mquatrani>dand: i can take a look at your account and I will give you an update via a ticket reply
20:07<dand>caker: we have no users right now, it's the middle of the night. there is no load.
20:07<cruxeternus>You don't need users to run out of memory :)
20:07<@caker>I don't have timestamps on my end.
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20:07<@caker>it could be from when you were experiencing problems.
20:07<dand>mquatrani: ticket 7514379
20:07<@mquatrani>thx. looking.
20:10<beefy>For anyone having issues accessing your nodes via the internet but can access them via lish, login to your system and check to see if it has a default gateway configured. Mine didn't and after adding it manually, I can access it normally again.
20:10<beefy>Not sure why it booted without a gateway...
20:10<@caker>beefy: are you set to use dhcp, by chance?
20:12<beefy>caker: no. this is a CentOS7 instance and it has BOOTPROTO="none" in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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20:12<@caker>beefy: ok. Have Network Helper ON in your config profile?
20:13<beefy>caker: need a little help with that one
20:13<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/network-helper
20:13<@caker>Linode -> click on your Linode -> Click on its Configuration Profile. What is Network Helper set to?
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20:14<beefy>caker: yes, it is enabled
20:15<@caker>hmm, ok - noted. I don't have the specifics, but I think there's a Network Helper conflict with some other CentOS thing? Network Manager? It was reported just a few days ago
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20:16<@mcintosh>beefy: can you try sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ?
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20:17<beefy>mcintosh: I'll be happy to in a few minutes. I have one more node I need to get back online as it's been down for hours
20:17<@mcintosh>gotcha
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20:17<@mcintosh>you probably will need to "sudo systemctl restart network" afterwards for the fix to work
20:18<beefy>10-4
20:19<@mquatrani>dand: just updated your ticket
20:19<beefy>mcintosh: tried that solution on my node that's still offline with no luck
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20:20<@mcintosh>beefy: what does "systemctl status -l network.service" say now?
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20:21<@mcintosh>"systemctl status -l NetworkManager.service" also -- it will let us know if NM isn't starting properly for some reason
20:23<dand>mquatrani: does OOM message on lish has a timestamp?
20:23<dand>mquatrani: we had a bug several hours ago and we fixed it.
20:23<Peng>dand: It depends on your kernel. Probably not.
20:23<beefy>mcintosh: OK, so after enabling NM, starting NM, and restarting the "network" service, the gateway is now set properly
20:23<Peng>dand: /var/log should have timestamped records of the same message
20:24<beefy>So what changed? This node has been working correctly for (pretty sure) over a year. Rebooted many times.
20:24<dand>mquatrani: anyway, that's a separate server . I don't complain on bugs caused by us :)
20:24<@mquatrani>dand: I do not have a timestamp available from my end
20:24<@mcintosh>beefy: it's a bug in our Network Helper tool that will be fixed very soon
20:24<dand>mquatrani: ok. so it's unrelated to the discussion.
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20:25<dand>Peng: which file under /var/log? I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.
20:25<beefy>mcintosh: gotcha. Thanks for the help. I have the deepest respect for the abuse you guys take.
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20:26<dand>caker: the OOM message is on a different server and isn't related to the discussion
20:26<Peng>dand: Not certain. kern.log, syslog, probably
20:26<@caker>kern.log is good for timestamps
20:28<@mcintosh>beefy: you're very welcome -- and thank you :)
20:28<dand>mquatrani: if I'll create a new node or resize a node, there is no way to know if I'm on a "good" or "bad" host?
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20:33<zifnab>!mtr-fremont zifnab.net
20:33<linbot>zifnab: Spam Eating Monkey Realtime Reputation Service
20:34<zifnab>...did that service die?
20:34<zifnab>:(
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20:34*zifnab blames peng
20:34<dwfreed>linbot: help mtr-fremont
20:34<Peng>D:
20:34<linbot>dwfreed: (mtrfremont <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://64.62.228.217/mtr.cgi?target_host=$1".
20:34<dwfreed>not peng's
20:34*Peng shifts blame to SelfishMan
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20:35<zifnab>!mtr-dallas zifnab.net
20:35<linbot>zifnab: The read operation timed out
20:35<Peng>Do it again
20:35<Peng>!mtr-dallas zifnab.net
20:35<zifnab>!mtr-dallas zifnab.net
20:35<linbot>Peng: [mtr-dallas] 12.|-- ??? 100.0 3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -- 13.|-- dux.zifnab.net 0.0% 3 54.2 52.2 50.6 54.2 1.6 -- see https://mtr-dallas.mn0.us/?c=62607100 for full mtr
20:35<linbot>zifnab: [mtr-dallas] 12.|-- ??? 100.0 3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -- 13.|-- dux.zifnab.net 0.0% 3 54.2 52.2 50.6 54.2 1.6 -- see https://mtr-dallas.mn0.us/?c=62607100 for full mtr
20:35<Peng>whoops
20:35<zifnab>!mtr-dallas speedtest.fremont.linode.com
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20:36<linbot>zifnab: [mtr-dallas] 11.|-- 2600:3c01:3333:2::2 0.0% 3 40.7 41.7 40.5 44.0 1.7 -- 12.|-- speedtest.fremont.linode.com 0.0% 3 39.8 40.9 39.8 43.0 1.6 -- see https://mtr-dallas.mn0.us/?c=380e2715 for full mtr
20:36<zifnab>close enough
20:36<zifnab>#shittymath, 20ms difference
20:36<zifnab>(yes, i realize the internet doesn't work like that)
20:37<zifnab>(working on moving it to fremont, been too busy to finish it)
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20:49<ang>anything going on with atlanta474? my linode crashed 2x in ~90minutes out of the blue
20:49<Peng>:X
20:49<Peng>Can you tell why?
20:50<Peng>ang: Many Linodes in Atlanta went down briefly due to a power outage. https://status.linode.com/
20:50<Peng>ang: That can account for *one* crash, but not two.
20:50<Peng>ang: May be best to file a support ticket, unless it's clearly something like "MySQL decided to use all my memory"
20:51<ang>guessing this:
20:51<TheAdmiral>that happens and it made me skip my medications once.
20:51<Peng>D:
20:52<ang>Feb 14 19:42:48 localhost kernel: x86/mm: Found insecure W+X mapping at address ffff880000000000/0xffff880000000000
20:52<Peng>That's fine. :X
20:52<ang>Feb 14 19:42:48 localhost kernel: WARNING: CPU: 1 PID: 1 at arch/x86/mm/dump_pagetables.c:225 note_page+0x71c/0x830
20:52<dwfreed>warnings are just warnings
20:53<TheAdmiral>but WARNINGs are a little bit different ;)
20:53<Peng>If it's in bold and color, you know it's bad
20:54<cruxeternus>what about blinking text?
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20:54<TheAdmiral>upper case warnings are meant to scare you in high contrast windows ONLY.
20:55<Peng>When eldritch speech is playing from the motherboard speaker, that's actually fine, though
20:55<dand>caker: OOM was hours ago on a different server. not related to the KVM stall
20:56<dand>verified in kern.log
20:56<dzho>It's all about the Lincolns
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21:02<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Running scripts at startup: What's the best way? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14559&p=72746#p72746>
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21:22<hi>where i place DOCS10 ?
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21:28<Marcquos>hello
21:28<Marcquos>i need help
21:28<millisa>!ask
21:28<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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21:29<Marcquos>how can use this?
21:29<millisa>How can you use what?
21:30<guzzlefry>Was there some maintenance earlier? I received a restart notice around 5:55PM EST (22:55 GMT).
21:30<Marcquos>this chat is for...?
21:30<millisa>There was a power event in Atlanta
21:30<@mcintosh>guzzlefry: https://status.linode.com/incidents/zz6xpzkccz4q
21:30<Marcquos>i want know about vps from linode
21:30<millisa>Marcquos: What do you want to know?
21:31<Marcquos>i'm from Brazil, how can buy?
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21:32<guzzlefry>ah, that explains it. I was checking for updates in the 'announcements' area. :P
21:32<guzzlefry>tahnks
21:32<millisa>If you are asking what payment methods can be used: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments#payment-methods
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21:32<millisa>If you are asking how to get started/signup - https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
21:32<Marcquos>can i have ssh clients in that vps?
21:32<millisa>You get root access to a linux install you setup. If you want ssh, you install ssh.
21:33<millisa>(The getting started page even walks you through ssh'ing in)
21:34<Marcquos>great!
21:35<kongrenet>Hello, my server has crashed... I can open ssh via lish but I can't from my PC... and WHM / Cpanel is not working after several reboot attempts.. Now I have started a new linode and restoring a backup to this new server. I have redirected the nameservers to this new Ip, will that save my day?
21:35<Marcquos>about the prices, plans
21:35<millisa>Marcquos: These? https://www.linode.com/pricing
21:35<Peng>kongrenet: Is it in Atlanta?
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21:36<kongrenet>Frankfurt
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21:36<Peng>Oh
21:36<Peng>Well, you can probably fix whatever is wrong.
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21:37<kongrenet>thanks, i hope so... I just want to rescue things with,n 2 hours before the new day starts here :)
21:37<Marcquos>if i buy, when i receive?
21:38<dzho>when the check clears, probably.
21:38<TheAdmiral>"power event". hah.
21:38<dzho>(mostly kidding, since who uses "checks" these days)
21:38<Peng>TheAdmiral: :3
21:38<millisa>Unlimited Power!
21:39<TheAdmiral>likely involved cats!
21:39<millisa>Marcquos: Signup usually only takes a few minutes - they sometimes have a manual review process that triggers during signup. Once you are able to login though, linodes can be brought online in just a couple minutes
21:40<dzho>kongrenet: one delay you might face can come from having a time-to-live (TTL) on your DNS records that lead them to be cached longer than you're hoping to see results.
21:40<dzho>your site will be up, but if clients receive the old DNS info they still won't reach it.
21:40<millisa>if you didn't completely remove the old linode from your account, you could feasibly swap the IP's
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21:42<Marcquos>i get he ip ready for use? i will create accounts for my clients immedilety?
21:42<dzho>Marcquos: do you know how to administer a LInux system?
21:42<millisa>You probably want to go through that getting started guide and see if it looks like something you want to get into
21:42<Marcquos>hum...no! is hard/
21:42<kongrenet>dzho: I have already changed the DNS to make some time but i guess that will be a trouble anyway... The biggest issue will be the mails and I will make them use the new IP instead of mail server name...
21:43<TheAdmiral>badabing.
21:43<dzho>kongrenet: yes, you might have changed the DNS settings already, but if DNS records went out *before* you made the change, they will likely be cached according to the TTL
21:43<dzho>that is, unless you changed the DNS *before* you had the outage?
21:44<kongrenet>dzho: I don't know how to transfer the current whm/cpanel license
21:44<dzho>(which would be a neat trick!)
21:44<dzho>kongrenet: me either.
21:44<TheAdmiral>welp, good to see you folks still alive. back to my pre "power event" winter hybernation ;) enjoy.
21:44*dzho pipes TheAdmiral out
21:44<millisa>You need to stop in more often than when things are wrong.
21:45<TheAdmiral>should ;) but i intend to sleep the next 4 years.
21:45<kongrenet>dzho: so i made a mistake by changing the dns :(? I have changed after the server outage....
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21:46<Marcquos>i will study, later i buy. is better?
21:47<millisa>TheAdmiral: I'm assuming you have seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqm9HSYbf0o
21:48<dzho>Marcquos: good luck!
21:49<Marcquos>thanks man
21:49<Marcquos>see u soon
21:49<kongrenet>Marcquos: it is better to start with a small node, so that you can have real experience. Once your account is up you can upgrade to anew server easily, but for the beginning financial isuues take some time but once you have an access than things are easier and faster
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21:51<Marcquos>Thank you!
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21:52<Marcquos>Guys, if someone help me on telegram, please, call me @Marcquos
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22:15<Nivex>my morse is rusty. I had to use a translator.
22:15<millisa>I was surprised that google translate didn't do it
22:16<millisa>No R'lyehian, no Morse, No Klingon...
22:16<Nivex>to be fair morse isn't a language, it's an encoding system
22:17<millisa>Fair enough
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22:18<millisa>It pleases me that this exists: http://semaphorify.info/?c=Welcome%20to%20Linode
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22:20<millisa>I'll finally be able to put https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4824 to use.
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22:20<digitalice>hi
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22:21<millisa>Greetings
22:21<digitalice>what happened today at atlanta datacenter?
22:21<digitalice>blackout?
22:21<Nivex>digitalice: status.linode.com tells all
22:21<millisa>https://status.linode.com/incidents/zz6xpzkccz4q specifically
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22:22<digitalice>I know ... but it does not include post mortem information
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22:22<digitalice>As a customer I wold like to know what happened ....
22:23<Peng>digitalice: It's only been a couple hours.
22:23<Peng>digitalice: Hopefully there will be a post-mortem within the next few days
22:23<digitalice>good
22:23<Peng>If so, it would like be posted at the above status URL
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22:24<digitalice>2 years ago ... the same happened in the freemont datacenter
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22:24<digitalice>blackout + generator failed
22:24<Peng>Yeah. These things happen sometimes.
22:24<Peng>Sometimes you just aren't lucky.
22:25<Peng>Sometimes the data center operator is clearly negligent.
22:25<Peng>We'llsee
22:25<millisa>sometimes it's squirrels.
22:25<Peng>sometimes it's a coordinated squirrel army
22:25<millisa>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/12/a-terrifying-and-hilarious-map-of-squirrel-attacks/?utm_term=.6d7586911f96
22:25<Nivex>"I have just met you, and I love you! Squirrel!"
22:26<millisa>http://cybersquirrel1.com/
22:26<millisa>squirrels + backhoes = death of datacenters
22:26<Peng>also global thermonuclear war
22:27<Nivex>"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
22:28<Peng>Same wityh plugging in servers
22:28<Peng>The only way to never have a power outage is to never turn them on
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22:33<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Huge problem loading pages <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14558&p=72747#p72747>
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22:45<Zimsky>Peng: or when the dc ops guy is just replacing a failed fan and accidentally vomits into the server
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22:46<Peng>That was the day i decided to stop running a rack of servers in the middle of a hazardous garbage burning site
22:47<Zimsky>he had food poisoning and it didn't hit him until the wrong moment
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22:47<Peng>Geez, that sucks. :X
22:48<Zimsky>that server and the one below were written off and just completely replaced
22:48<Zimsky>the cabinet was hosed down outside
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23:21<kongrenet>hello, I have just rebooted the new backup linode but i can't reach it... the ping does not reply from my desktop but it does from the other linode
23:21<kongrenet>139.162.142.161
23:23<Peng>Can you log in with lish and see what's what?
23:23<Peng>In the Linode manager, is Network Helper enabled in the configuration profile? Should it be?
23:25<kongrenet>yes I can open ssh
23:25<Peng>Oh, i just realized what you said.
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23:25<Peng>Missing default route, perhaps?
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23:26<Peng>Thoguh it's unusual for two nodes to be on the same IPv4 subnet...
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23:27<kongrenet>actually this is a restored backup
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23:34<kongrenet>Peng can you please ping 139.162.142.161
23:35<Peng>Appears not to respond to ping
23:39<@mcintosh>kongrenet: is your Linode a CentOS 7 Linode?
23:39<kongrenet>yes
23:39<@mcintosh>can you try running this:
23:39<@mcintosh>sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service && sudo systemctl restart network.service
23:40<@mcintosh>via the Lish console
23:41<kongrenet>sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service && sudo systemctl restart network.service
23:41<kongrenet>ln -s '/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service' '/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' ln -s '/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.servi ce' ln -s '/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-dispatcher.service' '/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatche r.service' [ 707.634823] 8021q: adding VLAN 0 to HW filter on device eth0
23:42<kongrenet>has returned this
23:44<@mcintosh>hmm still not pinging? I recommend opening a ticket so we can ask some troubleshooting-related questions -- we'll be glad to help you get to the bottom of it if we can
23:45<kongrenet>I've already opened it
23:47<@mcintosh>gotcha, we'll be on it shortly then
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23:58<Rainbow>yo mcintosh
23:58<Rainbow>you around?
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