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00:09<wikier>Got a question. Just upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, all works however my php version still shows as PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.26 with Suhosin-Patch (cli)
00:09<wikier>What should i do to get correct php version or upgrade to 5.5.9 or later
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00:14<Cromulent>wikier: I know it was a different version but when I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 it completely removed PHP from my system and I had to reinstall it
00:15<Cromulent>wikier: now you are on 14.04 you could just upgrade again to 16.04 and get PHP 7 if you wanted?
00:15<Cromulent>no idea why it removed PHP though
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00:16<wikier>hmmm, yeah I want to upgrade 16.04, just wanted to make sure no breaking changes
00:17<Cromulent>wikier: take a backup first - but when I did it it went without issue (well apart from needing to reinstall php)
00:17<wikier>ok will do , thanks
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00:21<Eugene>W
00:22<arlen>S
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01:12<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • The retro revival has been hot around the fashion scene <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14593&p=72870#p72870>
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01:20<Sam_>hello
01:21<millisa>Greetings.
01:22<Sam_>talk about linoide 4/8GB vps
01:22<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Issue of SSH logins causing firewall rules to be created, blocking where I am logging in from <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14556&p=72819#p72819>
01:22<millisa>What would you like to know about them?
01:22<Sam_>is it dedicated RAM of 4 GB or 8 GB
01:22<JamesTK>yes
01:22<JamesTK>you can use the full amount, it's not shared
01:22<JamesTK>cpu is shared though
01:23<Sam_>can i purchase cPanel license?
01:25<millisa>!cpanel
01:25<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
01:25<Sam_>ya
01:27<Sam_>plesk?
01:28<millisa>You can go get your own plesk license and install it, sure.
01:28<millisa>You get root access to a linux system, you can install what you want (that is legal)
01:36<Sam_>so, I can install cpanel also
01:36<millisa>if you go buy a license for it, sure.
01:36<Ikaros><- cPanel hater
01:36<Ikaros>Only fair to let you know >.>
01:38<millisa>If I had to pick between cpanel or plesk, I'd go with cpanel everytime. If I had to . . .
01:38<Sam_>what will you do for server configuration after purchasing vps?
01:38<millisa>Nothing.
01:38<millisa>I mean, unless it's one of my servers...
01:39<Sam_>i have to prepare the server os and anything else.
01:39<millisa>Sam_: You may want to look at the getting started guide to see if Linode is what you are looking for: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
01:39<millisa>Yes, you have that flexibility with Linode
01:41*Ikaros prefers doing everything by hand himself
01:41<millisa>All roboports and trains, all the time for me
01:41<FluffyKitteh>^
01:43<Sam_>do you have any auto backup system without cost
01:44<millisa>Linode's backup service's cost is based on the cost of the linode - about 25%
01:45<millisa>(the $5 linode is an exception - it is $2)
01:45<Sam_>what to do if any problem/downtime occured in server?
01:46<millisa>Plan for it? have more than one server? use balancers. replicate. you can restore a linode from its backup
01:49<Sam_>don't you have responsibility to up the server?
01:51<millisa>Sam_: most of us are customers
01:51<millisa>!ops
01:51<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
01:53<millisa>in the past, on those rare occasions when the physical hardware one of my linode's is on has had a failure, it's been brought back into whatever state I had it in after they resolve the hardware issue
01:54<millisa>If you wanted to guarantee it was brought back online, the managed service they offer might be what you are looking for
01:54<millisa>otherwise, I'd suggest you setup monitoring for your systems
01:55<millisa>well . .setup monitoring either way. monitoring is a good thing.
01:58*dcraig tickles millisa around a bit with a large parasitic catfish
01:58<millisa>that can't possibly be healthy
02:02<dcraig>it's not unhealthy
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02:50<Sam_>how do you solve any issue of pop, smtp, ftp etc server?
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02:51<millisa>You get root access, you can set them up however you wish
02:51<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs
02:52<Sam_>if any failure issue?
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02:52<Sam_>there is no monitoring & fix at your end?
02:53<arlen>you're responsible for everything running on the server
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02:55<Woet>i dont set up a pop or smtp server because running your own email server is silly
02:55<Woet>i dont set up a ftp server because i dont like sending my password and data plaintext over the internet
02:56<dcraig>you miss out on so much fun
02:57<dcraig>start a gopher server
02:59<millisa>Join Project Overbite http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/relevance.html
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03:01*dcraig dials in to millisa
03:02<millisa>NO CARRIER
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03:07*dcraig redials
03:08<dcraig>back in the day, I had an AOl redialer
03:08<dcraig>so it would keep trying to connect
03:08<dcraig>until it didn't get a busy signal :D
03:08<dcraig>AOL, too
03:09<dcraig>had a second landline for "the internet" too
03:09<dcraig>man those were the days...
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03:11<millisa>I remember when I got my second USR modem and getting it setup shotgun style. a whole 102kbps right to the desktop.
03:11<millisa>that p100 was *flying*
03:11<millisa>(I never got the full 56k, 51.2 was where they'd max out)
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03:13<dcraig>http://access.web.aol.com/accessnum/
03:13<dcraig>wow this still exists
03:13<millisa>you should probably find a modem. you might have mail.
03:14<dcraig>you've got mail!
03:14<dcraig>file done!
03:14<dcraig>goodbye!
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04:04<JamesTK>I'm back! (after a "hardware issue")
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04:07<Peng>Welcome back!
04:08<JamesTK>...and didn't typo my encrption key!
04:08<JamesTK>grub does not forgive
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05:43<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • separate Web server & DB server and connect via private IP <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14564&p=72871#p72871>
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05:51<ibilinyou>helllo
05:52<jiggawattz>'allo
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05:53<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • [TOP TIP] Let's encrypt bash script! <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13633&p=72872#p72872>
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06:18<JeremyE77>You guys. I feel like this was a really god introductory article to something I didn't know a whole lot about (for better or worse). https://serversforhackers.com/nginx-caching
06:18<JeremyE77>god=good
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06:25<JeremyE77>I didn't realize they were selling something....sorry. if you took it that way. :(
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07:16<linziyan>when will linode support block stroage?
07:16<linziyan>as vultr and digitocean?
07:16<linziyan>is there any agenda?
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07:20<Peng>There should be a beta soon.
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08:07<joakim>have a jar web app running on ubuntu, how could i monitor the traffic (different ip addresses accessing the website) the easiest?
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08:52<SlipperX>are the prices on pricing page incl. european VAT?
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08:52<arlen>no
08:52<SlipperX>okay, so it will be applied?
08:53<arlen>no
08:53<arlen>linode doesn't collet VAT
08:53<SlipperX>okay
08:53<SlipperX>thanks arlen for your answer :-)
08:53<arlen>collect *
08:53<arlen>np
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08:55<jiggawattz>Linode doesn't collect VAT?
08:55<jiggawattz>wtf
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08:56<jiggawattz>their nodes in Germany should be confiscated if they don't
08:56<arlen>oh well
08:57<Woet>not charging VAT != not paying taxes
08:57<Woet>they could just swallow the cost themselves
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08:59<Ali>Hi guys, not sure if this is the right forum to ask but does Linode have a private network between VMs that we could use? i.e. each VM gets a private IP that can be used for communication within the datacenter? or does everything have to go through external IPs?
09:00<jiggawattz>we don't offer private IPs (yet)
09:00<jiggawattz>errrrr
09:00<jiggawattz>sorry I thought this was a different channel :)
09:00<Ali>Thanks jiggawattz!
09:00<grawity>Ali: do you need this for security purposes or to avoid the traffic accounting?
09:01<jiggawattz>my host doesn't do private IPs but Linode does: https://blog.linode.com/2008/03/14/private-back-end-network-support/
09:01<grawity>Ali: for the latter, you can just use IPv6, or enable a private ipv4 address
09:01<grawity>it all goes through the same datacenter network, though
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10:54<Eliz>jiggawattz: ahahahah, I'm glad I'm not the only person that's done that
10:54<Eliz>mind you, it's been a loooong time
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12:01<kennel>fala seus picas
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12:05<FluffyKitteh>no
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12:10<Cromulent>wow mysql and postgresql data connectors for google analytics
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12:18<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
12:19<dzho>it would seem so
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13:41<Attacks>Hello, I would recommend to ask your clients or someone from your company to stop ddos attacking my business.
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13:42<Attacks>I have tracked the ddos attack and it came from ur ip address.
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13:42<Attacks>I would recommend you stop ddosing my services, i recieved packets from your service from ip address 139.162.37.147
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13:44<Eugene>!to Attacks abuse
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14:04<jiggawattz>DDoS comes from multiple IP addresses
14:05<jiggawattz>hence the "distributed" as the first D in DDoS
14:05<jiggawattz>doofball
14:06<atian>atypical to report abuse on IRC than use the formal email address??
14:07<atian>that takes some gymnastics
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14:17<Woet>jiggawattz: distributed oofball?
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14:53<jiggawattz>atian: that guy had no idea what he's doing
14:53<jiggawattz>his reports to abuse@ will be ignored anyway because it will be stupid
14:54<jiggawattz>poofball
14:54<atian>l o l https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/139.162.37.147
14:54<atian>> 10 Oct 2016
15:10<jiggawattz>https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/127.0.0.1
15:10<jiggawattz>lol
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21:47<zifnab>lish is just a screen console to a usb tty right?
21:47<zifnab>er, not usb tty, but you get what i meant hopefully
21:48<Peng>Right
21:48<zifnab>so disabling ssh entirely on a box just means "use lish" and that should still work fine?
21:48<Peng>Right.
21:48<zifnab>cool
21:48<Peng>SSH is more fun, though.
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21:49<zifnab>ha
21:49<zifnab>i'm just dropping all incoming network connections on a box
21:49<zifnab>(it reaches out to jenkins via jnlp/java)
21:50<zifnab>wanted to make sure before i did that i could get back in
21:50<zifnab>(yes, i realize 'whitelist addresses' would be a better move there, i'd rather just drop everything and expect lish to work)
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21:51<Peng>Do double-check lish works right now. It would suck to discover some getty misconfiguration had broken it *after* breaking SSH. :P
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21:57<zifnab>yeah
21:57<zifnab>i mean worst case, it connects to jenkins as a slave on startup
21:57<zifnab>er, except, nto root, nevermind :P
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23:53<khan>hello
23:53<khan>there?
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23:54<khan>i have few question
23:54<khan>please help me
23:54<Ikaros>!ask
23:54<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
23:55<khan>i want to buy vps i dont have goverment IDentity card so would you help me ?
23:55<khan>i am under 18
23:56<khan>i can provide you my brother or father gov id card
23:56<atian>khan ask a parent or find another provider
23:56<atian>surely one provider exists not strenuous in fraud checking
23:56<khan>sorry i didnt get please elaborate
23:57<atian>khan ya just make the account (w/ express permission) under their name and appropriate id
23:57<khan>yes and do you support payoneer master card for payment?
23:57<atian>change name later
23:57<khan>sure
23:58<atian>in inclined to answer yes if they check your damn id
23:58<atian>i've had no issues with prepaid
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