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---Logopened Fri Mar 03 00:00:08 2017
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00:03<dcraig>any idea why I still have an outstanding balance?
00:03<dcraig>usually the payment is automatic...
00:03<dcraig>the card has not expired :)
00:04<nate>dcraig: Payment didn't clear yet?
00:04<nate>I think that's usually what it's seemed for me too, I usually get the outstanding balance warning until paypal finally tells me the payment 'completed' then linode will reflect it
00:05<dcraig>hm, come to think of it, they did just mail me a new card :D
00:05<dcraig>even though the current one doesn't expire until 2019
00:05<dcraig>but the new one has that chip on it...
00:05<dcraig>so nevermind :D
00:05<nate>If they mailed you a new card then they likely cancelled out the old one
00:05<Ikaros>Yeah usually they'll deactivate the old one when the new one's mailed.
00:05<nate>even if the numbers are the same, at the very minimum the 3-4 pin on the back changed
00:05<dcraig>I got it figured out! thx u 2 :P
00:05<dcraig>you don't have to put in the CVV number
00:06<dcraig>but new expiration date is a year later than the old one
00:06<nate>You're technically supposed to at least once
00:06<dcraig>technically on the "Update Credit Card" tab, it doesn't ask for it
00:06<nate>Companies just aren't allowed/supposed to store the CVV
00:06<Ikaros>Wonder why banks do that though
00:06<nate>Yeah, normally merchants just need it once or once in a while for an 'extra' validation measure
00:06<Ikaros>I mean sure if they believe the card is compromised...
00:07<Ikaros>But whatever other reason would they have though
00:07<nate>Ikaros: He said he got an update to a chipcard
00:07<Ikaros>Ah.
00:07<JeremyE77>dcraig: mine will do that for half a month sometimes...it's annoying.
00:07<dcraig>this was my last card to get a chip
00:07<Ikaros>Yeah that's the same reason why I got my card
00:07<dcraig>credit union seems a bit behind the times :)
00:07<nate>I've had a chipcard for a good while now, they're fun to use around here lol
00:07<Ikaros>But I've had a chip card for a while now
00:07<nate>such a clusterfuck of places that do or don't use it
00:07<dcraig>yeah all my other cards have been chip for a while
00:07<Ikaros>Though initially when I got it, I couldn't make use of the chip itself.
00:08<Ikaros>For a while
00:08<nate>I'm kinda surprised paypal hasn't gone chip yet
00:08<nate>I thought they were the first ones I'd be getting with a chip in it
00:08<UKn0Me>paypal cards?
00:08<Ikaros>Yeah PayPal issues cards.
00:08<FluffyFoxeh>i didn't know that
00:08<Ikaros>Tied to your PayPal account
00:08<FluffyFoxeh>but they probably don't do it in Canada anyway
00:08<UKn0Me>yeah righto
00:08<nate>If you have a 'Premier' or Business account they'll give you a debit card
00:09<JeremyE77>You'll be lucky they don'y charge you a convenience fee to be inconvenienced by the chip!
00:09<Ikaros>^ What nate said
00:09<UKn0Me>paypass is pretty good
00:09<Ikaros>Basically lets you access your PayPal balance directly
00:09<nate>which draws directly from your paypal balance (or if your account has good enough standing they'll technically 'good faith' pay and draw it from your bank later)
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00:09<FluffyFoxeh>JeremyE77: they charged me a fee to tell me they were *not* going to dispute my chargeback scam with the CC company
00:09<FluffyFoxeh>:p
00:10<nate>FluffyFoxeh: What? Paypal?
00:10<FluffyFoxeh>yeah
00:10<JeremyE77>PayPal can lick my toes!
00:10<nate>Only fee I've ever had to pay paypal at all is a 2% on incoming money
00:10<nate>well incoming money flagged as business payments
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00:10<FluffyFoxeh>(when i say "my scam" I mean I got scammed)
00:10<FluffyFoxeh>I was selling some cryptocurrency bs
00:10<nate>Paypal used to effectively be my actual bank account for like 10 years, lol
00:11<FluffyFoxeh>I used paypal when I wasn't old enough to have a credit card
00:11<nate>actually more than 10 I guess, I opened my paypal when I was like, 17, only finally got a 'regular' bank account like last year, so, good bit longer
00:11<JeremyE77>PayPal exists in my life only as a last option for people who cannot pey any other way, and it scares me every second they have my money.
00:12<Ikaros>Why, because of what they did in the past, closing shitloads of accounts and refusing to give the money back?
00:12<nate>JeremyE77: As long as you don't do any potentially funky stuff paypal pretty much leaves you completely alone, I've only ever had like one dispute issue with them and I won it so
00:12<UKn0Me>I use it on sketchy sites so that they can't charge my card without me saying so
00:12<FluffyFoxeh>i believe that nate
00:12<Ikaros>Which by the way the government said they're not allowed to do
00:12<Ikaros>>.>
00:12<FluffyFoxeh>i had no trouble with them all the time I used them until that one incident
00:12<JeremyE77>nate: I do not want anyone deciding, arbitrarily, what is "funky" about my money.
00:13<nate>JeremyE77: Problem with that is, regular banks will too
00:13<nate>read the fine prints :P
00:13<arlen>is paypal fdic insured?
00:13<JeremyE77>nate: They are regulated and insured. I have a Credit Union and am close to the board :)
00:13<nate>If anything, FDIC backed banks 'monitor' stuff more closely due to gov requirements
00:13<nate>arlen: Neg
00:14<arlen>I used to use PayPal to accept credit card payments, now I just use cash.me
00:14<FluffyFoxeh>bank.io
00:15<FluffyFoxeh>what do you know, it's an actual website
00:15<UKn0Me>looks sketchy af
00:15<FluffyFoxeh>with an enormous picture of a beach
00:18<JeremyE77>Everyone knows. Money === Beach!
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00:47<Eugene>Come on down to South Park and meet some friends o' mine
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01:20*dcraig tickles jeremye77 around a bit with a large convict blenny
01:37<rsdehart>blenny with red caviar
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01:45<Dennis_>Is there a way to access linode with a GUI?
01:45<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/use-the-graphic-shell-glish
01:45<Peng>You can install one.
01:45<grawity>use glish if you need to access the console
01:45<grawity>or install vnc/rdp/nx for regular business
01:45<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/remote-desktop/install-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04
01:45<millisa>or any of https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/remote-desktop/
01:45<Dennis_>Hi grawity, thank you for your fast reply
01:46<Dennis_>Hi millisa, thank you too
01:52<Dennis_>I can see the Glish Launch Graphical Web Console » under remote connections but I am betting a connection error
01:52<Dennis_>*getting
01:52<millisa>you'd have to have a gui installed
01:53<grawity>well no
01:53<grawity>it ought to connect you to the console no matter what's on it
01:53<grawity>I mean, you don't need to have a gui installed to connect a physical monitor.
01:53<millisa>am definitely incorrect
01:53<millisa>just connected to my system with glish that doesn't have a gui installed.
01:54<Dennis_>it says "invalid session"
01:56<millisa>back in 2015 someone in this channel mentioned it might have issues if you are using 'noscript/umatrix/requestpolicy'. maybe a browser plugin getting in the way?
01:58<Dennis_>I am using Chrome, ill try with Firefox maybe that helps
02:01<Dennis_>Same issue
02:02<millisa>that's odd. the linode is turned on, I'm assuming?
02:05<Dennis_>yes absolutely
02:06<FluffyFoxeh>vorp
02:06<millisa>is it an old xen linode?
02:07<Dennis_>it says Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
02:08<millisa>chances are 'no' then but just to make sure - if you go to the dashboard, click on the linode, over on the right side it has 'Host' and tells you which physical host you are on - does it say 'KVM' in the parenthesis there?
02:09<Dennis_>singapore78 (KVM)
02:09<Dennis_>yes it does
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02:12<millisa>In that case, I'm out of idea. Unless someone else has a suggestion, you could do a ticket about glish. Note - you don't *have* to get glish working to get a gui working under vnc.
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02:13<Dennis_>Thank you milisa I will do that
02:13<millisa>You mentioned ubuntu 16.04 - those steps linked earlier ( https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/remote-desktop/install-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 ) are for your distribution
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02:16<arlen>Dennis_: do you have lish disabled in your profile?
02:18<Dennis_>I dont know, let me try to find out
02:19<arlen>profile link is in the top right of manager.linode
02:19<Dennis_>Authentication modes allow both password and key
02:19<arlen>one of the tabs there is for lish
02:19<arlen>hmm
02:19<arlen>ticket time maybe
02:20<Dennis_>yes I have sent an email to the support team, thank you all for your kind assistance
02:21<arlen>:)
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05:19<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Disaster Recovery Plan <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9815&p=72923#p72923> || General Discussion • Good place to get domains cheap for Linode? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14607&p=72922#p72922>
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07:25<rick111>if you took a dd img of your linode, could you boot it on home lab?
07:30<Peng>Maybe. A Linode doesn't have a kernel by default.
07:30<Peng>If you have your own virtual environment, or install a kernel and bootloader and partition it properly, it ought to be fine.
07:31<Peng>By default, it doesn't have a kernel, and is just a single filesystem, not a partitioned... thing with partitions.
07:31<rick111>running proxmox, ought to be a fun experiment
07:31<rick111>cool thanks Peng
07:32<Peng>Also, the getty configured probably don't match any real system.
07:32<Peng>gettys*
07:33<Peng>And it probably won't have userland tools for, say, wifi.
07:33<rick111>gettys... a little above my understanding that one
07:34<Peng>The, um, serial consoles
07:34<Peng>A typical OS would probably have six or eight enabled by default. A Linode will only have 1-2.
07:36<rick111>okay thanks, i'll look into it
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07:49<praetorian>z 6
07:49<praetorian>doh.
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08:35<cruxeternus>So, that was odd. My Linode was off this morning, and there's nothing in the logs to indicate why. :/
08:35<Peng>D:
08:36<cruxeternus>No emails from Linode indicating any problem either.
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08:41<@jalter>Peng: Lots of newer images now include a kernel and grub (even if the configuration profile isn't booting off of it)
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08:41<Peng>:O
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08:42<@jalter>relatively recent change :)
08:42<Peng>rick111 come back
08:43<@nbrewer>cruxternus: what's your dmesg look like? presumably Lassie isn't enabled?
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08:44<cruxeternus>Ya, Lassie is disable for some reason, so that explains why it didn't reboot.
08:44<cruxeternus>I checked dmesg, and all the other logs... they just all abruptly stop.. no errors or anything
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08:45<Peng>logview?
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09:00<rick111>jk,jbkgjk
09:00<Peng>rick111: wb
09:00<Peng>rick111: Apparently some of the newer Linode images come with kernels already installed.
09:00<Peng>and grub
09:01<Peng>jalter told me after you left before :X
09:01<@jalter>yay, second chances!
09:03<rick111>haha, thanks for the update
09:03<rick111>i booted into recovery, got lost and decided, i've better things to do Friday
09:03<rick111>just trying to figure out what they are
09:04<rick111>pizza sounds a good start
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09:42<DJSODA>hello
09:42<DJSODA>yoo hooo
09:42<DJSODA>hello
09:42<@nbrewer>!ask
09:42<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
09:43<DJSODA>I'd like to know
09:43<DJSODA>If my website is wordpress
09:43<DJSODA>but
09:43<DJSODA>I don't need to install control panel
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09:43<DJSODA>It will have preblem?
09:44<Zimsky>how would we know if your website is wordpress
09:44<@nbrewer>DJSODA: i'm not 100% sure i understand that question. do you want to know if your current website is using wordpress, or are you trying to install wordpress?
09:44<DJSODA>sorry my english is bad
09:44<DJSODA>I will explain again
09:44<DJSODA>If I buy vps
09:45<DJSODA>for my website from wordpress
09:45<DJSODA>I use just ssh
09:45<@nbrewer>yes, Linodes don't come with any built in control panel.
09:45<DJSODA>do not use control panel eg. vestacp or webmin
09:45<@nbrewer>You would use SSH or install whatever control panel you want.
09:45<DJSODA>my website will have issue?
09:46<@nbrewer>DJSODA: i couldn't really say, it will have issues if it's not configured correctly.
09:46<DJSODA>shh install LAMP or LEAM by myself ?
09:46<DJSODA>I under stand true?
09:46<DJSODA>ssh*
09:46<@nbrewer>LAMP is probably easier if you're new to setting this up yourself.
09:47<DJSODA>if install contro panel like vestacp or webmin
09:47<DJSODA>I do not install LAMP or LEMP by my self
09:47<DJSODA>i understand true?
09:47<@nbrewer>i'm not really familiar with those tools, but I believe most control panels have their own ways of installing packages, sometimes even their own versions of those packages.
09:48<DJSODA>I use just one wbsite
09:48<@nbrewer>even with a control panel, you're still going to need to do some initial setup.
09:48<DJSODA>Please recommend me first step after buy linode vps
09:49<DJSODA>my website is wordpress
09:50<@nbrewer>How comfortable are you with Linux and SSH? I couldn't tell you exactly what to do. If you want to install a control panel, that's something you should do first.
09:50<@nbrewer>Otherwise, I would start from here: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
09:50<DJSODA>I choose ubuntu
09:51<DJSODA>If i do not install control panel , How to use FYP for drag and drop my file from wordpress?
09:51<DJSODA>FTP*
09:51<@nbrewer>set up and secure your server, then follow one of our Wordpress guides: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-16-04
09:52<@nbrewer>you should use SFTP. it's built into SSH which is listening on your Linode by default, and it's much more secure than FTP.
09:52<@nbrewer>https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/file-transfer/filezilla
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10:05<DJSODA>How to increase secure to my server after install LAMP
10:06<DJSODA>When I shoud install SFTP before or afetr ...?
10:06<@nbrewer>this is a good overall start for securing your server: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
10:07<@nbrewer>SFTP is built into SSH, which comes on your Linode by default. you don't need to install anything on your Linode to use it
10:08<DJSODA>why this page have install https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/file-transfer/filezilla
10:09<DJSODA>securing my server is install before I install wordpress?
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10:10<@nbrewer>DJSODA: yes you should probably run through the securing your server guide before installing wordpress.
10:10<DJSODA>I do not understand about sftp
10:11<DJSODA>sftp install after secure?
10:11<DJSODA>https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/file-transfer/filezilla
10:11<@nbrewer>you need an application on your client machine (your laptop or desktop, whatever) to connect via SFTP, but you do not need to install anything on your Linode.
10:11<DJSODA>I do not understand this note: If you are using OS X, the passphrase for your key will need to be stored in your keychain in order to successfully connect via SSH key. FileZilla will not be able to use a key that was generated without a passphrase to connect to your Linode.
10:12<@nbrewer>DJSODA: are you using a mac?
10:12<DJSODA>I'm using window pc
10:12<DJSODA>microsoft
10:12<@nbrewer>okay, you can ignore that note then.
10:12<DJSODA>window 7
10:13<DJSODA>ok
10:13<DJSODA>I just connect sftp like sharehost
10:13<DJSODA>but choose sftp not ftp and choose port 22 not 21
10:13<DJSODA>i under stand true
10:13<DJSODA>?
10:13<@nbrewer>you have to use the user / password or ssh key that you created on your Linode
10:14<@nbrewer>or the root user, if that's the only one you have currently.
10:14<DJSODA>ahh
10:14<DJSODA>connect to sftp use user/password from ssh
10:14<DJSODA>i under stand true?
10:14<@nbrewer>yes
10:15<DJSODA>Please recommend me
10:15<DJSODA>Should I install control panel or not?
10:15<DJSODA>I use just one website from wordpress
10:15<@nbrewer>DJSODA: if you're not comfortable using the command line, I suppose you should. but I don't know much about control panels.
10:17<DJSODA>If I follow command line guide from linode, should I install control panel?
10:17<DJSODA>do you use control panel?
10:17<@nbrewer>no, I do not use a control panel.
10:17<@nbrewer>If you use a control panel, you should find documentation specific to that control panel for installing Wordpress, etc.
10:18<DJSODA>unless LAMP and all secure ,what should I install?
10:18<@nbrewer>Could you rephrase? I don't understand the question.
10:18<DJSODA>what do you use?
10:19<DJSODA>sorry my english is bad I will explain again
10:20<DJSODA>after install LAMP and all secure , It have somethig I should install?
10:21<@nbrewer>something in addition to LAMP? you can install anything else you want.
10:22<DJSODA>you so not use control panel , what do you use?
10:22<@nbrewer>ssh
10:23<DJSODA>use command line?
10:23<@nbrewer>yes
10:23<DJSODA>you are developer?
10:23<@nbrewer>no, i'm not a developer.
10:24<DJSODA>if I need to learn command line for use linux+ubuntu
10:24<DJSODA>where is to learn this?
10:24<DJSODA>who are you?
10:25<DJSODA>you are so expert, you do website?
10:25<@nbrewer>I am a technical writer at Linode. this is an overview of using the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/ssh/using-the-terminal
10:27<Peng>rnowak: PM?
10:27<DJSODA>If my konowledge is zero can i use linode and follow guide step by step?
10:27<rnowak>Peng: sure
10:28<DJSODA>linode have vestacp?
10:28<DJSODA>vestacp guide
10:28<DJSODA>i see just webmin
10:29<@nbrewer>no, we don't have a guide about vestacp. a Linode is a pretty standard Linux environment though, so any vestacp guide for your distro should be applicable on a Linode.
10:30<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Good place to get domains cheap for Linode? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14607&p=72924#p72924>
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10:34<alexf>!to DJSODA cr
10:34<linbot>DJSODA: IRC supports complete sentences. Less <enter> more content, please.
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10:36<DJSODA>thank you for all answer
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11:00<Eugene>Every day I'm Linoidn'
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11:09<UKn0Me>yarr
11:21<@jalter>!point Eugene
11:21<linbot>jalter: Point given to Eugene. (10)
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11:27<jiggawattz>how do I take points away
11:27<UKn0Me>!point gryffindor
11:27<jiggawattz>!help point
11:27<linbot>jiggawattz: (point <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title urmom.rm.wtf/points/add/$nick/$1/".
11:27<linbot>UKn0Me: Point given to gryffindor. (1)
11:27<jiggawattz>ah
11:27<jiggawattz>!point Eugene -2
11:27<linbot>jiggawattz: Point given to Eugene. (11)
11:28<jiggawattz>shit
11:28<FluffyFoxeh>haha
11:28<jiggawattz>so $1 isn't the first argument then
11:28<FluffyFoxeh><linbot> jiggawattz: (point <an alias, 1 argument>)
11:28<jiggawattz>ah 1 argument only
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11:29<relidy>I think "boo" was an alias I saw previously.
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11:30<relidy>!boo jiggawattz
11:30<linbot>relidy: Point taken from jiggawattz! (0)
11:30<jiggawattz>nice
11:30<jiggawattz>!point relidy
11:30<linbot>jiggawattz: Point given to relidy. (3)
11:30*relidy does a little happy dance.
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12:21<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Smaller VPS plan? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14608&p=72926#p72926>
12:21<nate>Jesus christ they just introduced the $5 plan, can people never be satisfied
12:21<nate>lol
12:21<UKn0Me>I'm satisfied
12:21<Cromulent>Vultr now have a $2.50 plan
12:22<Meyer_>I was satisfied at the $20 price point
12:22<Cromulent>which seems a bit crazy
12:22*cruxeternus refloats his idea of the Linode condo-style time-share...
12:22<cruxeternus>Or just get some roomates to share the rent.
12:22<UKn0Me>2022: $1 VPSs
12:22<Meyer_>Most of my Linodes probably still are at least $20 ones even though many of them could be $5 or $10 linodes
12:23<Meyer_>takes time to resize
12:23<Peng>$$$$$
12:23<Meyer_>well, more money to linode so they can get even bigger pipes
12:23<Meyer_>;)
12:23<cruxeternus>Ya... I've seen several people come in here saying they want to set up a e-commerce site with thousands of customers... but want to know if the $5 Linode can handle it.
12:24<cruxeternus>I'm wonder what kind of e-commerce model we're talking about here.
12:24<Meyer_>it probably can't
12:24<cruxeternus>That they can barely afford the $5/mo. but have thousands of customers.
12:24<Meyer_>Or well if they only have like 10-20 customers at any given time then sure
12:24<Meyer_>and they mean thousands of customers a month evenly spread
12:24<Meyer_>but thousands at the same time not so much
12:25<cruxeternus>Sure... but my point is that there seems to be a disconnect between what people think Internet infrastructure that powers their business should cost.
12:25<csnxs>one $5 linode > two $2.50 vultrs
12:25<cruxeternus>And reality.
12:25<csnxs>actually, one $5 linode > literally anything vultr
12:26<cruxeternus>I pay $20/mo. for a VPS that bounces my IRC client.
12:26<jiggawattz>nice
12:26<UKn0Me>lol, I paid $15/yr for a bouncer VPS
12:27<jiggawattz>lol I paid $13.50
12:27<jiggawattz>per annum :D
12:27<cruxeternus>I realize there are some countries where money is tighter... but when you complain about $5/mo. to host your business with thousands of customers...
12:27<UKn0Me>coupon codes...
12:27<relidy>!point cruxeternus
12:27<linbot>relidy: Point given to cruxeternus. (2)
12:27<jiggawattz>$20/mo for ZNC
12:27<jiggawattz>hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
12:27<cruxeternus>And further, complain when there's not 100% uptime also.
12:28<jiggawattz>seems like a waste of resource allocations ya know
12:28<jiggawattz>128 MB SVZ at RamNode: $13.50 per year
12:28<cruxeternus>jiggawattz: Well, I may eventually do something more than bounce IRC with it :D
12:28<UKn0Me>complain when they forget to pay the bill and it goes down, and of course they start losing millions
12:28<jiggawattz>millions of ZIMBABWE DOLLARS
12:28<cruxeternus>haha yes
12:28<UKn0Me>jiggawattz, same fam
12:28<jiggawattz>FUCK
12:28<jiggawattz>^^ w00000
12:29<cruxeternus>That's my favorite... the $5/mo. Linode user who complains he's losing millions of dollars per hour.
12:30<cruxeternus>Even if the downtime is not technically his/her fault...
12:30<cruxeternus>I mean...
12:30<UKn0Me>Most of the time it's their fualt, either by not knowing how things work and knocking the server out (no backups, too expensive) or not paying the bill
12:30<hawk>cruxeternus: Better have some redundancy in place, if those are the stakes.
12:31<cruxeternus>hawk: exactly
12:31<cruxeternus>You should have a _lot_ of things in place :P
12:31<cruxeternus>And you can do most of them with Linodes, in various datacenters.
12:31<UKn0Me>like a functioning coffee machine
12:32<cruxeternus>But you have to understand that availability and performance isn't free.
12:32<Meyer_>I had a customer once who had a system that could handle 2h of downtime. More than that and it cost them around 25M USD
12:32<cruxeternus>Meyer_: :o
12:32<Meyer_>but they were OK with the cost of providing a redundant service
12:32<cruxeternus>But surely they made the requisite investment to protect that.
12:32<Meyer_>cruxeternus: They did
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12:33<cruxeternus>That's... sanity.
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12:33<Meyer_>If I remember correctly that setup cost them around 250-300k USD a month
12:33<cruxeternus>That's a lot... but makes sense in some situations.
12:33<Meyer_>Worth it as a insurance premium
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12:34<Meyer_>it does indeed. This particular customer had a lot of data so if you asked them "Ok, so if this system goes down. What is the effect on your business"
12:34<cruxeternus>I worry that some businesses start to look at those costs and think that cutting them is a way to increase profits.
12:34<Meyer_>based on that it was very easy to know how important services were and the customer could choose what to protect in what way
12:34<cruxeternus>Because, hey, nothing bad has happened yet!
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12:35<Meyer_>cruxeternus: some do and they cry when it eventually burns down
12:35<cruxeternus>:(
12:35<Meyer_>cruxeternus: others think they have a very important system and it MUST be available 99.99% of the time
12:35<Meyer_>cruxeternus: that is until they get the bill for 99.99% availability
12:36<cruxeternus>heh
12:36<Meyer_>suddenly it was only important for some management to pull reports once in a while
12:36<cruxeternus>I guess, like with many things, it's all relative :P
12:36<Meyer_>and waiting a couple of hours for the report if systems were down is fine
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12:38<Meyer_>cruxeternus: it is
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12:52<LookingGlass>Hello?
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12:53<LookingGlass>How does one go about requesting content to be removed from a particular URL?
12:53<dzho>depends
12:53<jiggawattz>LookingGlass: contact the site owner
12:53<dzho>traditionally abuse@whateverthedomainis.tld
12:54<dzho>some sites will have a specific way to contact them about DMCA issues
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14:05<grawity>hrmm weird, why would an ipsec/gre tunnel from a linode max out at ~300 kbps
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14:19<cruxeternus>because that's as fast as the NSA can process it
14:20<TonyL>lol
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15:48<dzho>likely story
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19:02<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Good place to get domains cheap for Linode? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14607&p=72928#p72928> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Smaller VPS plan? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14608&p=72927#p72927>
19:12<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Resizing to the new $5 plan <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14596&p=72929#p72929>
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19:22<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Getting error message when connect with SSH <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12533&p=72931#p72931> || General Discussion • Linode vs other cloud <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14380&p=72930#p72930>
19:32<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Permissin/ownership problem? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14419&p=72932#p72932>
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19:38<Cherry>I have a few questions about the NodeBalancers. Is it possible to whitelist which IPs can connect to the NodeBalancer? Can I use it to spread the load between Minecraft servers? Can I launch new instances from backup if it hits a certain amount of connections?
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19:41<xtech>hi
19:41<xtech>im noob in irc
19:41<xtech>can someone help pls
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19:43<xtech>hola
19:44<xtech>dead people
19:44<retro|blah>(1) Don't IRC as root. :)
19:46<xtech>retroretro ?
19:47<xtech>retro ?
19:47<xtech>im not ircing as root
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19:48<HoopyCat>submit your resume to the White House
19:48<therock247uk>lol that ident tells me differant >.>
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19:50<@jleal>maybe it was Richard Oot :)
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19:53<rsdehart>bob_: don't do that
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20:22<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Ubuntu SSH ignoring RSA key <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14609&p=72933#p72933>
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21:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I just moved a link, and it disappeared... <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14610&p=72934#p72934>
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21:36*HoopyCat eyes FluffyFoxeh suspiciously
21:36*rsdehart eyes errybody suspiciously
21:36*FluffyFoxeh dons cat ears
21:43*atian eyes lustfully
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21:45<atian>food is essential to life, therefore make it good
21:46<atian>coffee is exercise in a cup
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21:47<dzho>wth just happened to #linode
21:48<Ikaros>o.O
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21:48<HoopyCat>dzho: idk it wasn't me https://goo.gl/photos/ryY84XXQciADga146
21:49<Ikaros>Nice.
21:50<atian>chocolate icecream no thanks
21:50<dzho>is it?
21:50<dzho>I'm wondering, maybe ... coffee
21:50<atian>green tea
21:50<atian>4 me
21:50<HoopyCat>http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/icecream/signaturecreations/germanchokolatekake/index.html#.WLogzd9idZU
21:51<dzho>oh, are we dissing what we think is in that Coldstone cup, or are we expressing preferences, because I have those too
21:51<dzho>it tastes more cherman with a k
21:51*dzho just had some Ben & Jerry's pistachio, smattterafact
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21:52<HoopyCat>dzho: i was in the tastykake region last week and it was quite the feat of willpower
21:53<dzho>yes, yes
21:53<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Legacy pre-paid vs hourly <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14611&p=72935#p72935>
21:54<van7hu>Hello, I am currently using $40 pricing plan & I want more disk storage. Could I buy more storage rather than upgrading the plan? I need alot more disk, since I want to build media server, but not more core & ram ..., I need about 1TB of storage
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21:55<atian>van7hu no
21:56<van7hu>thanks
21:56<van7hu>what a pity
21:57<HoopyCat>used to be able to, but it turns out it was the same price as just simply upgrading
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23:15<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Is it easy to test an upgrade with cloning? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14595&p=72936#p72936>
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