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---Logopened Mon Mar 06 00:00:12 2017
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00:55<dcraig>:D
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01:38<arlen>ಠ_ಠ
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01:42*dcraig tickles arlen around a bit with a large cobbler
01:43<arlen>fish or pie?
01:44<rsdehart>arlen: yes
01:45*arlen nods
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01:52<Ajay>Hi,
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01:52<Ajay>I am getting an error when i tried to reset password of my Linode Ubuntu VM
01:52<Ajay>Setting password for root... fs_setup: failed to open /etc/passwd for read: No such file or directory
01:52<dcraig>hello
01:52<dcraig>uh oh
01:53<Ajay>Rt now my VM is shutdown
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01:57<Ajay>Any Help
01:57<kyhwana>O.o
01:57<dcraig>no idea
01:57<dcraig>I've never forgotten a password :D
01:58<Celti>If it can't find /etc/passwd I think there's worse problems afoot than forgotten passwords.
01:58<dcraig>maybe looking on the wrong drive?
01:58<dcraig>totally grasping at straws here
01:58<Ajay>Yes. i have created 2 drives
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02:00<Ajay>???\
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02:05<retro|blah>Hmmmm... just to cover our bases, have you checked each drive?
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03:22<FluffyFoxeh>who
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03:23<arlen>you
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07:07<kyhwana>http://www.csoonline.com/article/3176433/security/spammers-expose-their-entire-operation-though-bad-backups.html dodgy as
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07:22<bishnu>hi guys, I am having an issue regarding a website(carpetsansar.com) I manage hosted on linode. I am frequently getting 2-3 weeks old page when requested via chrome. I can replicate it when requested with no "no-cache" header on request. I have tried toggling apache cache from .htaccess but with no luck. What could be the issue?
07:29<nate>bishnu: if it's only your chrome doing it then it's most likely your chrome in some form
07:31<bishnu>nate: But I can replicate it when tried with postman, and that chrome is behaving wired not only on my machine. :(
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07:44<rollingWolf> Someone that can tell me what he lower left jack is called? Im going to assume its chinese, but I need to know for sure http://imgur.com/a/h1xYF
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07:49<kyhwana>isn't that the american one?
07:57<nate>rollingWolf: Looks like a non-polarized plug common in the US and such
07:57<rollingWolf>nate, Yea I found out ;) thanks :)
07:57<rollingWolf>It was TYpe 1 (US/canada whatever) yes
07:57<nate>(and by non-polarized means it can be used either which way)
07:58<rollingWolf>nate, Ok :)
07:58<nate>well, if it's made right anyways
07:58<nate>lol
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08:00<rollingWolf>Im almost tempted to buy a us -> the volt/amp/whatever I want with a swedish socket/jack without bothering witha us/swe adapter
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08:00<rollingWolf>yea, thats probably the best choice ;)
08:00<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • SFTP restricted user (Debian Jessie) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14617&p=72961#p72961>
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09:00<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Office Outlook Web Access Login Page <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14618&p=72962#p72962>
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09:10<markleetibet>hello, I would like to know about the migration of my site from my previous dedicated server to Linode.com how much is it please?
09:10<ponas>markleetibet: depends, you would need to get a quote via https://www.linode.com/professional-services
09:12<markleetibet>OK, thanks a lot.
09:12<ponas>if your site is as complex as facebook it's probably a million dollars. if it's just a blog - more like $X00 I would guess
09:14<markleetibet>smile. not like faccebook. but just a dedicated server within which I have two php based sites, and one wordpress site.
09:14<markleetibet>to migrate them to Linode here
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09:22<markleetibet>please, I wonder if someone can tell me what is DNS cutover mentioned in Professional Services?
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09:24<markleetibet>again, what is DNS cutover mentioned in Professional Services? please
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09:25<gparent>there's a comma between the two
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09:25<ponas>markleetibet: I would assume that is when the domain is pointed to the Linode
09:25<gparent>They will handle modifying DNS, and the "cutover" would be when you switch from the old to the new site I presume
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09:27<markleetibet>thank you all, very much
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09:36<markleetibet>when I registered with Linode.com I was asked to pre-pay $20 but that was not an actual purchasing. so how can I use it to choose a product which I like, please?
09:41<markleetibet>hello
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09:59<jaspers>hi, i'm a longtime linode customer; i saw that you introduced high memory instances recently
09:59<jaspers>i was wondering if you're also going to offer high cpu instances in the future
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10:01<nate>jaspers: 20 cores isn't enough? o.O
10:02<jaspers>i mean, plans with less memory and more cpu... like an 8 core, 4 gb ram
10:08<Celti>Me, I'm waiting for the block storage service
10:11<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linode vs other cloud <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14380&p=72930#p72930>
10:12<jaspers>Celti: same for me :)
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10:34<jacksgong1>hello
10:34<jacksgong1>anybody
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10:34<@nbrewer>!ask
10:34<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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10:35<jacksgong1>I have preloaded $20 on my canceled account with the same email(igzhenjie@gmail.com), maybe just used $0.1, could you please tell me any plane to hand back that to me? thank you.
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10:36<jacksgong1>okay, I will try to, thanks alot
10:36<wacanam20>hello.. will you help me test the free trial.
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10:37<@nbrewer>wacanam20: what are you trying to do, exactly? have you deployed a Linode yet?
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10:39<wacanam20>nope. i just got registered .. i read some of the blog that their is free trial for a couple of hours.
10:40<@nbrewer>wacanam20: you have to pay up front, but we offer a full refund within the first week.
10:41<wacanam20>.ahh ryt.. all i have is a prepaid credit card...
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10:42<wacanam20>do you accept that type of visa card?
10:43<@nbrewer>wacanam20: we accept prepaid cards - I'd try using it.
10:45<wacanam20>my e-coin prepaid virtual credit card was decline.
10:48<atian>linode is too nice for accepting prepaid cards
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10:50<@nbrewer>wacanam20: okay well, you can ask support for more information about why it was declined - but the truth is, if it was rejected it's unlikely there's anything we'll be able to do on our end.
10:52<wacanam20>... any way thank you for the support.. i will sell some of my bitcoin to reload my cc.
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11:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Access My Aol Email Salliewil1 Aol <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14619&p=72963#p72963>
11:02<relidy>^ phishing
11:03<csnxs>mcintosh, can you lend me your phishing rod
11:03<relidy>You'll need the correct bait
11:03<@mcintosh>thx
11:07<coxn>just had the wackiest mental image
11:07<coxn>bait shop in town when I was young is now a coffee & beer place
11:08<coxn>I'm imagining it becoming a bait shop again, but it sells oppo research, etc.
11:09<coxn>buckets of USB sticks with labels: "Pharma" ... "Watches" ...
11:09<FluffyFoxeh>goose
11:10<goose>FluffyFoxeh: eh?
11:10<FluffyFoxeh>rofl oops
11:10<goose>Tab fail?
11:10<FluffyFoxeh>didn't mean to highlight you :p
11:10<goose>Np
11:11<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linode vs other cloud <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14380&p=72930#p72930>
11:13<FluffyFoxeh>linode's cloud is fluffier surely
11:16<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:18<coxn>Eugene has been Linodin' for at least 135 days
11:18<coxn>$ find . -name "*linode*" -exec zgrep -Hi "Eugene.*every day I" {} \; |wc -l
11:18<coxn>135
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12:13<Cromulent>hmm I'm thinking of starting a $5 VPS for a VPN but I'm wondering if I should do an IPsec VPN or an OpenVPN - I'm not sure of the benefits of each - all I know is that IPsec support is built into most modern operating systems and OpenVPN is not
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12:43<Nightmare>Cromulent: What are you planning on using the VPN for?
12:45<Cromulent>Nightmare: just browsing the web and stuff
12:45<Eugene>My 2c: IPsec by itself is pretty shitty as a general-purpose user VPN; OpenVPN does great at this, if your user is technically competent
12:45<Eugene>For wide-scale rollout(eg, ENTERPRISE scale) I like SSTP
12:46<Cromulent>never heard of SSTP before
12:46<Eugene>Its a Windows thing
12:46<Cromulent>ah OK
12:46<grawity>isn't that TCP-only?
12:46<grawity>or does it upgrade to like DTLS like openconnect?
12:46<Eugene>It sure is. It also uses regular old SSL certs and the client is built-in to Windows, authenticates using existing AD crednetials, etc.
12:47<grawity>the IKEv2 client is also built in to Windows, etc.
12:47<Eugene>The convenience factors(rollout via GPO!) make it worth the tiny bit of crappiness occasionally
12:48<Cromulent>hmm this will only be for 3 computers really - from what you have said OpenVPN sounds like the way to go for me
12:49<atian>anyone have a kinesis freestyle
12:49<relidy>On the topic of VPNs, anyone have recommendations for server-to-server persistent tunnels?
12:49<atian>can comment on adequate separation between the two havles
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13:01<Cromulent>oh wow just found out ubuntu 16.04 and later support ZFS - that might be fun to play around with
13:04<Eugene>I also like OpenVPN for inter-server tunnels
13:06<relidy>Eugene: That's what I've been leaning toward, mostly because that's about the only solution (other than SSH tunnels) that I've ever used. In this situation, I'm going to want the clients to be able to talk to each other, an actual private network (gasp), so SSH tunnels wouldn't be practical.
13:06<Eugene>Thats a textbook case
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13:19<arlen>relidy: https://www.tinc-vpn.org might interest you
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13:22<relidy>arlen: Heh, I actually have that open in a tab already. Do you have any experience with it that would recommend its use?
13:23<arlen>no, just seen it mentioned before
13:23<arlen>I think gparent uses/used it
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13:37<Eugene>Singapore ping times dropped from ~240ms down to 180ms. I think that means the cable is fixed
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13:52<DrJ>what's the best way to restore a linode backup service backup?
13:52<DrJ>I've only done this once before
13:52<DrJ>if I recall, last time I just restored it to a new linode, swapped IPs, then destroyed the original
13:53<@caker>two choices: into an new empty Linode, or an existing Linode that you've cleared enough un-allocated-to-disks spaec to fit the restore
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13:54<DrJ>okay, so I could shut this thing down... "remove" the two disks, then restore to it?
13:54<DrJ>don't need to do anything wiht the config profile?
13:54<@caker>delete it along with the disks, I guess
13:54<DrJ>or should I blow that away and the restore will recreate it?
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13:55<@nbrewer>DrJ: the restore will create its own config profile
13:55<DrJ>ah
13:55<DrJ>thanks
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14:11<DrJ>you can't transfer snapshots from one VM to another before killing the old can you?
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14:11<@caker>correct
14:12<DrJ>:( okay, would have been nice to be able to keep them just in case
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14:15<Eugene>Are backups kept even when resizing a plan downwards? You could delete all the disk images and then resize the empty Linode down to $5, and keep it around until the backup are no longer relevant
14:16<@mcintosh>yes, they are kept when resizing downwards
14:16<@nbrewer>Eugene: yes, but it's possible that the smaller plan won't have enough space for the backups - if for example you resized from a 12GB to a 1GB and you were using most of the space.
14:17<@nbrewer>oh I see what you mean, just keep the plan for the backups - yeah what mcintosh said, then.
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16:27<DrJ>So I have a linode account that I mostly manage for a customer... they also manage things in the linode manager from time to time as well
16:28<DrJ>Currently we don't have two factor auth enabled because we are sharing this account
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16:28<DrJ>is it possible to enable that and us both have a code generator on our phones?
16:31<@caker>Go to: Account -> Users and Grants and create a new user ... one for you and one for them. Then you can do each do your own thang
16:31<@caker>s/typos/correctness/
16:31<DrJ>ah, of course
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18:33<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Smaller VPS plan? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14608&p=72970#p72970>
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18:37<zifnab>vultr: fancy api, fancy webview, can't resize disks or downgrade plans...
18:37<zifnab>linode needs a seattle datacenter, the only thing these guys have on you is the sub-ms ping to my house
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19:02<Eugene>And they don't vend
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19:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Citicards Sign On <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14620&p=72971#p72971>
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20:03<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Permissin/ownership problem? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14419&p=72932#p72932>
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20:39<JamesTK>Yeah Eugene
20:39<JamesTK>Linode needs to vend
20:39<Eugene>!itvends
20:39<linbot>It vends! a crumb
20:39<JamesTK>!vend
20:39<JamesTK>!itvends
20:39<linbot>It vends! a flat soda
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23:10<FluffyFoxeh>!help itvend
23:10<FluffyFoxeh>!help itvends
23:10<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: (itvends <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo It vends! [web title https://itvends.com/vend.php?format=title]".
23:11<arlen>!itvends
23:11<linbot>It vends! an ink blot
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23:49<Eugene>https://i.imgur.com/EFonXCr.mp4
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