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---Logopened Thu Mar 09 00:00:17 2017
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01:34<AndyAndyAndy>I have a question regarding storage
01:35<AndyAndyAndy>How can I estimate pricing for storage 500G-1T
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01:39<FluffyFoxeh>a Linode with 768GB of storage is $320 per month
01:40<FluffyFoxeh>extra storage space isn't available separately right now
01:43<AndyAndyAndy>hmm.. I was worried about that. Thanks a bunch for the clarification
01:43<FluffyFoxeh>block storage is coming at some point though
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01:58<LostInBKK>Hi :-)
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01:59<LostInBKK>Like a fool I can not sign in to my dashboard but I can SSH to my server. How can I fix that?
02:00<millisa>the linode manager?
02:00<millisa>or some management panel on your system?
02:00<millisa>why can't you sign in?
02:00<LostInBKK>— Invalid username or password —
02:01<millisa>did you use the 'forgot username' and the 'reset password' links?
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02:08<LostInBKK>Thanks helps if I know which email I used to sign up :-P But all sorted now :-)
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02:15<reillyeon>Staff, can I get an update on dallas1140? It has been down for over 30 minutes.
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02:51<arlen>reillyeon: check your tickets, any updates would've been provided there
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03:30<aurel>AppArmor module is not loaded error. Please help.
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03:33<Celti>I don't believe the native Linode kernel supports AppArmor. You can run the distribution kernel instead:
03:33<Celti>Well, he wasn't very patient.
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03:35*dcraig tickles celti around a bit with a large roundhead
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04:09<dharam>need help on my linode server
04:10<millisa>what do you need help with?
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04:15<rick111>his linode server, don't you listen?
04:16<rick111>block storage may be coming a little too late for me ;(
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04:25<Celti>Can't come soon enough for me, but I don't have anything *critical* waiting on it
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04:30<mahadev>I am trying to connect to db placed on linode through another web hosting (Hostinger) but I am getting this error : db error:SQLSTATE[HY000] [2003] Can't connect to MySQL server on '<MY LINODE SERVER IP>' (111 "Connection refused").
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04:30<mahadev>I don't have any firewall configured, what can be the problem ?
04:30<sandeep>mysql by default only listens on localhost
04:31<mahadev>Ok. So what should I do to establish connection ?
04:32<sandeep>find the 'listen' line in your mysql config. I believe it tells you to uncommet a certain line to allow connections from outside
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05:19<kyhwana>welp, another open mysql DB on the internet
05:25<Celti>The MySQL DB for an online game I don't know *why* I still play is exposed to the Internet... and running MySQL 4.something
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05:35<ranjeet>hi Team we are getting error in sending mail.
05:35<ranjeet>are restricting from your side to send mail?
05:36<ranjeet>2017-03-09 10:33:31 SERVER -> CLIENT: ESMTP Exim 4.88 #1 Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:03:31 +0530 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 220 and/or bulk e-mail. 2017-03-09 10:33:31 CLIENT -> SERVER: EHLO 2017-03-09 10:33:31 SERVER -> CLIENT: Hello [] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
05:36<ranjeet>we are able to send email from other server or localhost
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05:39<ranjeet>please help me its very urgent
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05:58<kyhwana>ranjeet: what else does your log say? (more)
05:59<kyhwana>otherwise your linode/dns isn't setup properly to send mail or the IP is in a blacklist
06:00<ranjeet>what can me done to resolve
06:00<kyhwana>find out why the server is rejecting mail?
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06:41<vijay>i have a query
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07:45<Dimitris>Hi, I would like to ask something.. where shall I ask ?
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07:53<nate>*Dimitris: You can ask here
07:53<nate>if someone has an answer they'll give it
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07:57<Dimitris>When a new VM is created, it has the minimal packages? or it is created having installed cpanel and stuff like that?
07:59<@jalter>Dimitris: Minimal installation, cPanel isn't included. It's easy to install, though.
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08:02<Dimitris>Thank you very much for your fast reply. One last question, let's say that I have a domain. Do I have to setup a mail server (eg postfix), or there is any other option?
08:04<Woet>Dimitris: you can use google apps.
08:06<Dimitris>Thank you!!
08:07<jiggawattz>Dimitris: you can also use for email
08:07<jiggawattz>it's free for small users
08:08<jiggawattz>(as opposed to Woet's G Suite which is $5/mo)
08:08<jiggawattz>Woet must be a rich guy
08:08<Woet>does zoho have ipv6 yet?
08:08<jiggawattz>who cares
08:08<jiggawattz>it's just email. it gets delivered
08:08<Woet>my ipv6 only backup server who sends notifications
08:09<Woet>which *
08:09<jiggawattz>nah you just like spending money
08:09<jiggawattz>flashing it around
08:09<Woet>i probably save more by having IPv6 vms than I'm spending.
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08:12<Dimitris>Thank you both, zoho looks nice and free
08:17<jiggawattz>good call
08:29<Dimitris>Do you know, where can I find the prices of the bandwidth?
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08:48<jiggawattz>Dimitris: for Linode ?
08:49<Dimitris>I have been told that the server may have 10GB outgoing traffic
08:49<jiggawattz>it's $0.02/GB past your monthly traffic allotment
08:49<@wblew>Dimitris: Also,
08:49<jiggawattz>well the cheapest plan is 1TB of monthly traffic
08:50<jiggawattz>so you'll be fine
08:51<Dimitris>oh.. I read 1GB :S I am sorry for the trouble
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09:39<tharkun>Good $DAY My current linode is supposed to be hosted on a machine that has ssd as hdd how many read/write cycles does on of this devices has?
09:39*tharkun is evaluating the use of one of those on a slightly different use case.
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09:40<nate>tharkun: Unless you're on a very old linode plan, you're most likely definitely on an SSD yes, though it's not an "SSD as HDD", it's an SSD as an SSD.
09:40<nate>As for it's read/write's at the base drives, that you would probably have to file a ticket for, though not sure why that matters, I'm sure linode monitors the health of the drives pretty actively
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09:42<tharkun>Precisely I don't want to kill the ones on my host prematurely. I need to do a heck of a lot of read/write cycles so I want to know how much I have allready "worn out" the life expectancy of the ssd's
09:42<nate>I feel like if you were doing THAT much, they would have probably already seen it via graphs and warned you about it, but like I said, try a support ticket
09:42<nate>this is mainly the community support channel
09:45<tharkun>nate: I've been a linode customer for quite sometime. I've never had the need to file a ticket. Community help has been more than enough for me. And I've delayed the heavy ssd usage up until next week when I believe I can have a less ssd intensive solution in place.
09:46<tharkun>Anyway If there is a @ around with some coffee time to spare I would appreciate a more insightfull answer.
09:46*tharkun goes back to lurking
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09:50<nate>tharkun: plenty of ops around, they're just generally busy with, you know, tickets, lol. I mean if you don't mind waiting and that you might be making things more complicated for them then sure by all means, lurk and wait :P
09:51<nate>past that, there's no real way 'community help' can tell you. Only thing I can think of is to check SMART, I'm not sure how that works under an instanced virtual server though
10:11<@nbrewer>tharkun: we're not going to be able to look up any of your account details via irc, so i wouldn't be able to tell you for sure that your Linode is on an SSD host, although it's likely that it is.
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10:57<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Allowing remote application to make MySQL connection <>
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11:37<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • permission denied (public key) <> || General Discussion • [SOLVED] Marking Problems "[SOLVED]" In This Forum <>
11:39<tharkun>nbrewer: my linode is currently on ssd hw so really no need to check them. The decay rate of ssd hw is somewhat of a mistery to me since vendors say that it will last the same as regular hdd on any type of condition. I am interested on the topic and what better place to ask but here wher you get to have ssd hw used and abused.
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11:41<wiltonjunior>I already made the payment, but this message only appears
11:41<wiltonjunior>Thank you for completing your signup! Your account is currently being reviewed. You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!
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13:24<@nbrewer>feel free to ask a question, if you have one.
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13:25<Andrew>My IP address Will Linode provide with a server ?
13:25<Andrew>***how many
13:25<@nbrewer>Andrew: each Linode comes with one IPv4 and IPv6 address, statically assigned
13:25<@nbrewer>additional IPs are available with technical justification.
13:26<Andrew>Do lined allow to send emails through those IP address ?
13:27<@nbrewer>Andrew: yes, provided that your emails are opt-in and can-spam compliant, and comply with our terms of service.
13:27<Andrew>Thats great. Is it possible to get additional IP address for sending emails ?
13:28<@nbrewer>Andrew: no, probably not. why would you need more than one to send emails?
13:29<cruxeternus>Because those darn blacklists keep spearing him.
13:29<@caker>we already know this answer :)
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13:31<Andrew>ok what does it means spearing ?
13:31<cruxeternus>I just chose a colorful word for "adding".
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13:32<cruxeternus>Maybe Digital Ocean will let him set up a spam relay.
13:33<@nbrewer>afaik DO doesn't provide extra IPs at all
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13:34<cruxeternus>I was just kidding... *insert name of anyone else*
13:34<cruxeternus>I'm not even sure how a few extra IPs solves that problem anyway.
13:35<cruxeternus>I was tempted to tell him he could get a new IP for $5/mo. but wasn't sure about his motives. :P
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13:39<dzho>I hadn't thought about the price of a new linode and the price of an additional IP converging, but they are.
13:39<dzho>sorry, a new IPv4 address.
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13:40<csnxs>IPv8 when?
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15:54<Eugene>I prefer "Legacy IP"
15:54<millisa>Antique IP
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18:11<bfoote>I'm trying to use the linode cli to create a new linode but I'm finding it is unable to recognize the distribution "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"
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18:12<bfoote>I've gone hunting for a distribution id but nothing seems to work
18:12<@mcintosh>bfoote: try "15"
18:12<@mcintosh>no quote
18:12<bfoote>where's the list at?
18:13<bfoote>this doesn't show numbers.. curl -s
18:13<bfoote>I know that's a different api
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18:14<@mcintosh>bfoote: the fact that it's a different API would be the reason why it does not show numbers
18:14<@mcintosh>i'm referencing our doc here ->
18:14<bfoote>seems like the api tooling is in disarray atm
18:14<bfoote>is there a working npm module?
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18:16<@mcintosh>this is pretty old but perhaps
18:16<bfoote>thanks much
18:19<millisa>(in the new api, I don't see ubuntu 14.04) --> curl | python -mjson.tool
18:19<millisa>12.04, 16.04 and 16.10 are in there though
18:19<bfoote>wow... "Unable to fuzzy match distribution: 15"
18:20<Eugene>Try being fuzzier.
18:24<@mcintosh>bfoote: trying to test why you're seeing that now
18:27<@mcintosh>bfoote: it works for me
18:27<@mcintosh>Unable to fuzzy match distribution: "Ubuntu
18:27<@mcintosh>^^ that makes me think your terminal (or something else) is somehow cutting off the command/string
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18:28<@mcintosh>...maybe try single quotes?
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18:40<bfoote>thanks, thec cli is running inside a docker container from a base image using Ubuntu 14.04 itself, `TERM=xterm` is in the environment and docker run is using `-i -t`
18:40<bfoote>the api key is in the environment
18:41<bfoote>I don't feel like the command is getting cut off
18:41<@mcintosh>was just a guess -- i don't know why you're seeing that error (I don't get an error running the same)
18:43<bfoote>looks like its `linode-cli 1.4.7`
18:44<@mcintosh>linode -v 127 ↵
18:44<@mcintosh>linode-cli 1.4.7
18:44<millisa>isn't ubuntu 14.04's distribution id 124?
18:44<millisa>curl "$mylinodeapikey&api_action=avail.distributions"| python -mjson.tool
18:44<millisa>(assuming you have your api key in $mylinodeapikey)
18:44<@mcintosh>yes but the cli has some of it's own mappings as well for distros (i think)
18:45<millisa>ah. never used it.
18:45<@mcintosh>I don't think the ID would be the issue, though - it seems to match on the name fine
18:45<bfoote>hmm... 124 yeilds.. "Unable to create testing. API Error 8: Some plans are not available for legacy 'pre-pay' accounts. Please convert to Hourly billing..."
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18:46<millisa>(unrelated - I noticed that the 1gb plan can't be used for the old non-hourly accounts; I though it was just those new high mem instances)
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18:47<bfoote>that's interesting.. I am trying a 1024 size
18:47<@mcintosh>bfoote: that error is unrelated to distro choice (but is a good sign - it suggests using the correct ID may work for you after all)
18:47<@mcintosh>if you're a prepaid customer, you can't use the $5 plan
18:47<@mcintosh>must convert to hourly first
18:47<@mcintosh>under the "Account" tab in the Manager
18:49<bfoote>same with 2048 plan.. "Unable to fuzzy match distribution: 15"
18:51<@mcintosh>yeah I think 15 is going to always report as wrong -- I'd stick with 124 as millisa suggested above
18:51<@mcintosh>think the doc i was referencing may need updating
18:54<@mcintosh>yup - '15' refers to the number you enter when setting the default distro for linode-cli - it's not the real distro ID
18:55<bfoote>got it to work with 2048 + 124.. at least further down the rabbit hole
18:55<bfoote>thanks for hanging with me
18:55<bfoote>I'll have to look at the json setup for the stack script
18:56<millisa> <-- that does show putting quotes about the distribution when they use the name
18:58<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Installing Ubuntu from ISO <>
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19:21<zifnab>millisa: pointer: "jq ." vs "python -mtool json"
19:22<millisa>looks like i'd need to install it.
19:22<zifnab>gives you this nice colored output
19:22<zifnab>right, not default
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19:22<millisa>its in epel for centos though. looks very pretty
19:23<millisa>!point zifnab
19:23<linbot>millisa: Point given to zifnab. (1)
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19:23<zifnab>jq .ERRORARRAY.0.ERRORMESSAGE even works
19:23<zifnab>i think
19:25<zifnab>guess jq .ERRORARRAY\[\].ERRORMESSAGE
19:25<zifnab>was close
19:25<zifnab>can't wait for a sane api
19:26<millisa>it's been 3+ months since the last update to the engineering blog. (hint. hint hitn)
19:27<zifnab>main box still isn't linode - i like my 0.1ms ping
19:27<zifnab>i'm wrong, 0.8ms
19:28<zifnab>(steam over vpn is totally a thing that happens occasionaly)
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19:34<staticsafe>closest VPS I can get is DO Toronto which is ~1ms
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19:39<Peng>I live in the suburbs. :<
19:40<Peng>One VPS provider is... 11 ms. DigitalOcean is... 45. :P
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20:20<arlen>i used to have 45 to newark now its 145 :(
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20:21<@tduff>arlen: can you pastebin an mtr? I'm curious the path you're taking that adds an extra 100ms, maybe there's something we can do to help it
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20:21<arlen>yup one sec
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20:24<arlen>so um forgot i was uploading backups
20:24<arlen>its 45 still
20:24<@tduff>whew, scared me haha
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20:30<Eugene>Finally tried on my new linode shirts. We like them.
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20:55<praetorian>someome needs a shave.
20:57<@ctarquini>if any of ya'll are running Wordpress with W3TC on a LEMP stack, be careful how you have it configured:
20:59<dzho>ctarquini: ewwww
20:59<@ctarquini>my thoughts exactly
20:59*Peng winces
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21:10*ctarquini experiences sudden surge in blog views from china
21:10<Eugene>Is it a warm, fizzy feeling?
21:16<Eugene>Aside: I really, REALLY like the uniball pen included with the shirts. Way better quality than the normal cheapy pens
21:16<Eugene>I'll actually use this one
21:16<Eugene>Next time you should get green though
21:20<praetorian>you need to buy better pens
21:26<Eugene>normal vendor pens*
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21:36<@nbrewer>Eugene: i got one of those on my first day! it is a great pen.
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22:05<peterkohar>hi there
22:06<peterkohar>want to ask about migrating from my server in hostgator to linode
22:06<arlen>ask away
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22:08<peterkohar>is it in linode can use filezilla ?
22:08<arlen>yup, linodes are linux servers you get root on
22:10<peterkohar>how to check my username and password ?
22:10<peterkohar>for login using filezilla
22:10<peterkohar>i found the ip address of my server, but didnt for username and password
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23:09<flanin>which platform of your vps
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23:11<flanin>can i use alipay payment?
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23:11<me>where is it ?
23:12<arlen>where is what?
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23:17<flanin>whit kind of payment method support?
23:17<arlen>thats lists them
23:20<flanin>Do you have a trial offer
23:20<arlen>yup, 7 day money back
23:22<dcraig>it's only 17 cents a day
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23:22<dcraig>so if you hate it, you can get that $1.19 back :D
23:22<me>anyone using stream service on linode vps
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23:23<me>xtream codes or nimble
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23:38<golu>you there?
23:39<golu>I need your help are you from linode
23:39<Cromulent>no this is the user community
23:39<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
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23:41<golu>Ok well, In fact I have been researching on cloud server since 2 days because i want to use express and node for development
23:42<golu>and i have been read all things from linode also, but I have few questions, Can you resolve my doubts
23:43<Cromulent>I can try
23:43<golu>since i want to use express and mongo database for my production
23:44<golu>Will they support it perfectly
23:44<Cromulent>you get a linux VPS with root access you can install what ever you like
23:46<golu>My databse is going to hold some user information, then will they keep it after i close the server and also is there any trail period for development like heroku
23:46<Cromulent>if you destroy the server the data is gone
23:47<golu>what are the options here for securing data
23:47<Cromulent>and I have no idea what heroku offer
23:47<Cromulent>you are in charge of securing your server and data
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23:48<golu>ok thanks, I think i have to read more about using this linode
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