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---Logopened Sun Mar 12 00:00:21 2017
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03:17<Guest133>Hi, I am new to Linode, my question is what happens to my linode ip address if I delete the linode I have?
03:18<dwfreed>it'll be released back into the pool of addresses that can be allocated to new linodes
03:18<Guest133>dwfreed: thank you, is there any way I can keep it?
03:18<dwfreed>yes, have a Linode :)
03:19<Guest133>dwfreed: haha!
03:19<dwfreed>generally it will take a while for it to get reused, so it may be possible for support to give you your old address back when you create a new linode, but don't count on this
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03:20<Guest133>dwfreed: so... can I make a new linode and transfer the IP to that before deleting the linode I have
03:20<dwfreed>yes
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03:20<dwfreed>see IP swap on the remote access tab
03:20<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access#swapping-ip-addresses
03:20<dwfreed>^ that
03:21<dwfreed>also congrats to the lucky people working support right now that just got a free hour
03:21<FluffyFoxeh>hah
03:22<Guest133>dwfreed: Thank you for your help
03:22<FluffyFoxeh>we all just lost an hour :(
03:22<Guest133>millisa: Thank you!
03:22<FluffyFoxeh>we'll get it back later but for now it is lost
03:23<millisa>just claim you are religiously australian and take all of monday for canberra day or deadly everything day or whatever they call it.
03:23<dwfreed>deadly everything day is every day, isn't it?
03:23*dwfreed ucks
03:23<dwfreed>also ducks
03:23<millisa>I'm assuming that's what 'canberra' means.
03:24<dwfreed>really need to take this laptop in and get the keyboard replaced
03:24<millisa>and mbp?
03:24<millisa>er, an (my keyboard's fine. fingers and brain are faulty)
03:26<millisa>hardest keyboard i've ever done was for a 2012 mbp. there's about 60 screws all about the size of ant keeping the keyboard in place
03:26<millisa>and that's *after* you gut the thing to get at it
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03:33<dwfreed>millisa: yeah, late 2013 retina
03:42<zifnab>mmm scotch
03:42<zifnab>(i really shouldn't buy scotch)
03:43<zifnab>or clear rum. equally dangerous.
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03:52<nuge>hey gang - i seem to have lost ssh access after getting setup - is there a way to get back in to reset my key?
03:53<millisa>Do you know about the lish console?
03:53<Nightmare>heh
03:53<nuge>no - i'm new to linode
03:53<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
03:53<millisa>It's like getting on the physical console
03:53<Nightmare>It's kind of hilarious that I clicked this channel and saw zifnab's message right after taking a shot of Captain Morgan clear rum
03:53<Nightmare>delicious
03:54<zifnab>Nightmare: it is. i especially like it in...things that make it not taste like rum.
03:54<nuge>ah! - ok so i should just have to add my key back to authorized hosts i think - dos that sound right?
03:54<zifnab>its better than vodka as far as "I can hide this in things"
03:54<Nightmare>I like the taste of rum to a degree - it gets overpowering if I like, keep it in my mouth
03:54<millisa>nuge: if it's just your key that's the problem, sure
03:55<zifnab>i'm a fan of kraken by itself
03:55<Nightmare>I use the green Hawaiian Punch as a chaser and the combined taste is great
03:55<nuge>i think so - i keep getting an error "Permission denied (publickey)."
03:56<zifnab>i have...strawberry lemonade at hte moment
03:56<zifnab>its horrible
03:56<zifnab>lol
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03:59<dcraig>zifnab ur teh strabwebrry ni my lemondae
04:00<zifnab>dcraig: stop being drink.
04:00<Nightmare>What the fuck are you talking about
04:00<zifnab>or be more drink
04:00*dcraig bees drink
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04:04<zifnab>i'm drinking and fixing docker things
04:04<zifnab>i've decided mesos/marathon is overkill
04:04<zifnab>fuck it
04:04<dcraig>we'll do it live
04:05<zifnab>yup
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04:05<zifnab>exactly
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04:06*rsdehart drinks dcraig
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04:11<dcraig>I go down easy
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04:21<rsdehart>that's what I hear
04:24<Nightmare>Well, we already knew that
04:24*dcraig tickles nightmare around a bit with a large longnose whiptail catfish
04:25<Nightmare>Hey man you can't just do that, that's sexual harassment
04:25<Nightmare>RED LIGHT BEHAVIOR
04:25<dcraig>it was non-sexual tickling
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04:34<nuge>mlissa - thanks for the help - it worked!
04:34<millisa>great!
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06:24<JamesTK>:O
06:24<JamesTK>poor dwfreed
06:24<JamesTK>dcraig even
06:24<JamesTK>nobody cares about dwfreed, surely
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07:10<Zimsky>can confirm
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07:14<tbsaunde>if I want my own ipv6 /64 I need to file a ticket right? it looks like the default is just having one address in the 2600:3c03::0 block?
07:14<Zimsky>yes
07:15<tbsaunde>ok thanks
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08:34<cnf>hello
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08:35<cnf>how can one test that a configured private ip is working? is there an ip in that range we can ping?
08:42<Peng>Not really. You may be able to Google a public NTP or other service in some data centers
08:43<Peng>You could ping IPs at random :P
08:43<cnf>a /17 is large...
08:43<cnf>i'm trying to get the LoadBalancer working
08:44<cnf>but i see no connections coming in on the private ip
08:44<Peng>Your IP minus one is probably assigned :P
08:44<cnf>no private vlan's in use?
08:44<cnf>i can't ping anything
08:45<Peng>NodeBalancers should be in 192.168.255/24. You can probably ping something there
08:46<cnf>nothing
08:47<cnf>and linode configured the interface automatically on reboot
08:48<csnxs>disable network helper to stop it doing that
08:49<cnf>i don't mind it does that, as long as it works
08:49<cnf>with it doesn't seem to
08:49<cnf>and i don't know how to test this
08:50<cnf>i followed https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/nodebalancer/getting-started-with-nodebalancers and https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/
08:52<cnf>i'm tcpdumping the interface, and I see no connections coming to my ip
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08:54<cnf>yeah node goed from unknown to down without me ever seeing any packets
08:54<cnf>wth o,O
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08:55<Peng>...right data center? :P
08:56<cnf>... good point
08:56<cnf>no :P
08:59<cnf>Peng: thanks for pointing out the obvious :P
08:59<dzho>heh
09:05<cnf>yep, all working now
09:05<dzho>!point Peng
09:05<linbot>dzho: Point given to Peng. (4)
09:06<Peng>\o/
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10:14<jiggawattz>Received lag check reply from coulomb.oftc.net. Time elapsed: 0.07737 seconds. (Rating: Are you plugged into the server?)
10:14<jiggawattz>77ms
10:14<jiggawattz>NICE
10:37<Zimsky>jiggawattz: 77.37 you blind man
10:38<Zimsky>you need to take charge of your units
10:38<jiggawattz>stfu Zimsky
10:38<jiggawattz>go blow a ruler
10:38<jiggawattz>or stick it in your pussy
10:39<jiggawattz>all 12 inches of it
10:39<Zimsky>jiggawattz: I can say from experience that is most unwise
10:39<jiggawattz>yeah I knew you were like that
10:40<Zimsky>also, jiggawattz
10:40<jiggawattz>8===============================D
10:40<Zimsky>use metric like a normal person
10:40<jiggawattz>Zimsky: 4 u
10:41<jiggawattz>kindly suck
10:41<jiggawattz>kthxbye
10:41<Zimsky>why are there 31 ='s
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11:32<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Domain returns “ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED” although reverse DNS works fine <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14633&p=73004#p73004>
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13:13<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Backup performance has changed - Anybody else see it? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14635&p=73006#p73006>
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15:17<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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15:23<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Help needed (paid) to setup Linode with OpenVPN and port forwarding from public iface to vpn client. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14636&p=73008#p73008>
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16:36<jiggawattz>wow someone is willing to pay for that
16:36<jiggawattz>... instead of reading a simple tutorial lol
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16:39<Celti>jiggawattz: People will pay ludicrous amounts of money to be lazy. It's the foundation of many economies these days.
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17:20<Eugene>There's a big difference between reading a tutorial and thinkings its secure and paying an expert to tell you that its secure
17:31<tbsaunde>can anybody suggest things to read related to routing ipv6 to containers?
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20:41<mmustac>hi. i have a question.
20:42<dzho>!asj
20:43<dzho>hahaha
20:43<dzho>!ask
20:43<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
20:43<mmustac>are you happy?
20:43<dzho>oh
20:43<mmustac>yeah
20:43<dzho>you mean, constituitively?
20:43<dzho>on the average?
20:43<dzho>at just this moment?
20:44<dzho>or what about this one?
20:44<mmustac>no, existentially
20:44<mmustac>or average, ill take either one I guess
20:44<dzho>oh, ok, I was worried that "happy" and "existentially" don't even make sense together.
20:44<dzho>but yeah, I'm pretty happy, on averege.
20:44<mmustac>really. wow.
20:45<dzho>average.
20:45<dzho>you?
20:45<mmustac>nah
20:45<mmustac>thanks for the answer
20:45<dzho>that will be $0.05
20:45<mmustac>u take litecoin?
20:46<dzho>only Peanutscoin
20:46<dzho>no interest charges apply until that's invented, so don't sweat it
20:46<mmustac>my man
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21:22<jello>hello, i'm thinking of using linode for my small private infrastructure. any advice?
21:23<jello>probably looking at the $5 plan
21:25<Eugene>You can do anything at Linodecom
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21:34<Zimsky><Celti> jiggawattz: People will pay ludicrous amounts of money to be lazy. It's the foundation of many economies these days.
21:34<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Domain returns “ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED” although reverse DNS works fine <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14633&p=73010#p73010>
21:34<Zimsky>can we just take that money away from them and use it for a better cause
21:34<Zimsky>like pizza fridays
21:35<Zimsky>but only at indie dev companies
21:37<Celti>Pretty sure half the indie dev companies out there only exist to enable the laziness of humanity, so, sure.
21:38<Zimsky>Celti: okay then fine let's cure some disease with the money
21:39<JamesTK>How does one create a kvm linux guest?
21:39<JamesTK>I forget how to libvirt
21:39<Zimsky>I'll start a biotech/med research company with strict policies internally for how money is moved and what people can earn
21:40<JamesTK>Zimsky: help me
21:40<Zimsky>there will be no CEO unless that job is required, and pay will be appropriate to the amount of work they do
21:40<Zimsky>I reckon I could run an awesome company
21:40<Zimsky>JamesTK: idk
21:40<Zimsky>I just woke up
21:40<JamesTK>Pay yourself $5M zimbabwean
21:40<Zimsky>brain don't work good
21:42<Celti>JamesTK: man virt-install
21:42<JamesTK>Celti: can I dd a raw image onto an LV and use that?
21:42<JamesTK>Already have a vm :P
21:43<Celti>You should be able to, I think
21:44<Celti>Did you already designate the volume group as a storage pool?
21:45<JamesTK>yep
21:48<Zimsky>JamesTK: isn't it in the libvirt docs
21:49<JamesTK>Been ages since I manually brought up a vm
21:49<JamesTK>D:
21:49<Zimsky>
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22:54<zifnab>RIP last vultr box
22:55<zifnab>"Sorry we can't downsize" <-- "LOL bye"
22:57*Zimsky downsizes zifnab
22:58<zifnab>lol
22:58<Eugene>nooo, he'll float away
22:58*Zimsky downsizes Eugene
22:58<zifnab>Eugene: can you point vomitb.in at 173.230.156.191
22:58<zifnab>or do you want a PR
22:58<Eugene>AAAA plz
22:58<Eugene>I can do it, I happen to have that repo open
22:58<zifnab>er 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe1f:7b72/64
22:58<zifnab>it'll be offline for a few
22:58<Zimsky>use AAAAAAAA
22:58<zifnab>gonna kill it befor ei move data over
22:58<Eugene>k
22:58<zifnab>HA is...hahahha
22:59<Zimsky>the server returns a recorded message of me screaming the IP address
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22:59<zifnab>RIP dux. long live lumen.
22:59<zifnab>(fedora naming, dux -> lux -> lumen)
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23:00<zifnab>i also appear to have broken (snowmanemoji).zifnab.net
23:00<zifnab>RIP
23:00<Eugene>zifnab - done
23:00<Peng>D:
23:01<zifnab>Eugene: thanks, killing off old service hten
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23:02<Zimsky>zifnab: something just occurred to me
23:02<Zimsky>what is a snowman fallacy?
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23:04<Eugene>I usually use a carrot
23:04<Zimsky>that's interesting to know.
23:05<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • do-release-upgrade fails: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14632&p=73011#p73011>
23:18<zifnab>i keep thinking "I should set up salt or ansible or something"
23:18<zifnab>but
23:18<zifnab>that was a whole server migration in about 15 minutes
23:18<zifnab>rsync /srv, redo virtualenvs, rsync home, done
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23:31<ang>so there's something screwy with the slackware 14.2 image. /usr/sbin/sendmail exists in the default install, but the sendmail package is not installed.
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23:37<Eugene>rsync is the shit
23:39<dwfreed>ang: /usr/sbin/sendmail is the expected place to find a binary responsible for initiating mail sending from the system; it can be provided by something like postfix, ssmtp, or even nullmailer
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23:40<dwfreed>this comes from the time when the sendmail package was the standard way of sending mail, so everybody built everything around that
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23:43<ang>except the sendmail package is not installed
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23:43<ang>if you grep sendmail /var/log/packages/* you will not get any hits
23:44<dwfreed>you didn't read what I said
23:44<ang>likewise /etc/mail/sendmail.cf exists, yet sendmail-cf package is not installed
23:44<dwfreed>other packages provide a /usr/sbin/sendmail too, due to historical conventions
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23:45<ang>dwfreed, not in slackware
23:45<dwfreed>wat
23:45<dwfreed>postfix provides a /usr/sbin/sendmail in every distro
23:45<ang>i do not have postfix installed
23:45<dwfreed>I listed other things that also provide /usr/sbin/sendmail, and that list is not exhaustive
23:46<ang>how familiar are you with slackware?
23:47<ang>if a package had installed it, grep'ing for it in /var/log/packages would show it
23:47<dwfreed>ah, that part I didn't know
23:47<FluffyFoxeh>slackware has packages?
23:48<dwfreed>no idea, tbh, unless somebody accidentally cleared the log files
23:50<ang>dwfreed, this is what's weird. in root there is a file called packages.txt that shows 694 packages, yet /var/log/packages only has 403. it's almost lieks omeone blew away the logs as you mentioned
23:50<dwfreed>tbh, with slackware, I'd probably just install from scratch
23:50<millisa>is /usr/sbin/sendmail and actual binary?
23:50<millisa>er, an actual binary? or is it a link pointing somewhere?
23:50<dwfreed>that's what I do when I deploy Gentoo
23:51<ang>millisa, yes. and is the same md5sum as when I do an actual full install with the sendmail package
23:51<ang>so it's like the image had the package installed, but then the log was blown away
23:51<millisa>i saw this which sounds similar http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/sendmail-uninstall-leaves-binary-behind-bug-4175593350/
23:53<ang>i saw that. but the weird things is there's no log in /var/log/removed_packages either for sendmail which should at least exist if the package was removed
23:54<arlen>cia did it
23:56<ang>millisa, so a combination of that bug and some not trusting the logs
23:59<dwfreed>ang: probably got deleted
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