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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-03-14

---Logopened Tue Mar 14 00:00:24 2017
00:03<zifnab>I don't get it
00:03<zifnab>You can scan the entire internet in a few days
00:03<zifnab>Why
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00:25<kyhwana>oh hai HoopyCat
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03:35<praetorian>!points linbot
03:35<praetorian>!score linbot
03:35<linbot>praetorian: linbot's score: 1337
03:35<praetorian>i sense hackory
03:42<csnxs>!score mcintosh
03:42<linbot>csnxs: mcintosh's score: 6
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03:48<Celti>!score Celti
03:48<linbot>Celti: celti's score: 0
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03:57<praetorian>!point linbot
03:57<linbot>praetorian: Point given to linbot. (1337)
03:58<praetorian>hackory for sure
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04:01<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Forward traffic through a firewall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14631&p=73022#p73022>
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09:01<HoopyCat>kyhwana: what's new spottycat?
09:02<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • permission denied (public key) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14622&p=73023#p73023>
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09:46<deathspawn>millisa: i want 50% share of that band
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10:14<Nayan>Hi
10:15<Nayan>anyone here?
10:17<dzho>!ask
10:17<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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10:19<@mcintosh>hi Nayan!
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10:25<Nayan>hi @cintosh
10:25<Nayan>my client have accocunt in Linode
10:25<Nayan>I am trying to connect ssh
10:25<Nayan>but I am always getting "Access denided" error
10:28<jiggawattz>Nayan: you can access the console in manager.linode.com
10:28<@mcintosh>^^ I'd start there -- gonna be easier to troubleshoot from inside the machine
10:28<Nayan>yes
10:29<Nayan>I checked in Linodes > Remote access and used Public IP
10:29<Nayan>but getting "Access Denided" error
10:29<Nayan>anywhere I have to update public key or something?
10:30<relidy>Nayan: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
10:30<jiggawattz>you can access the console directly and login as root
10:30<relidy>(or any other valid user)
10:30<jiggawattz>^^
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10:30<jiggawattz>could be a lot of reasons why you can't log in
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11:14<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
11:15<sandeep>put that saas to work
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11:24<Papa>Hey guys
11:24<Papa>Facing issues while connecting with Cassandra cluster
11:24<Papa>well, trying to connect with a cassandra server
11:24<Papa>The issue is
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11:25<Papa>Even though our firewall is disabled, our application is unable to listen to Cassandra on port 9042
11:25<Papa>Any suggestions?
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11:43<Papa>Man you guys are useless. Papa out
11:43<Papa>bii
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11:46<newsquid>hello
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11:47<@nbrewer>hello, feel free to ask your question
11:47<newsquid>thanks, just a quick question, is there a debian 8 32 bit to deploy on a linode?
11:48<@nbrewer>no, we only offer 64-bit images. if you really need 32-bit debian, you could install a custom distro: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
11:50<newsquid>alright, reading on it now. thank you.
11:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Why Does Restored Server Take So Long to Access? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14628&p=73025#p73025> || General Discussion • Is Image Snapshot Different from Backup Snapshot? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14627&p=73024#p73024>
12:05<ang>is it possible to pass a kernel parameter? I don't see any option in the configuration profile
12:08<@nbrewer>ang: you'd need to use a grub install with the distro supplied kernel, or a custom one. then you can use grub to add a parameter
12:08<@nbrewer>it's not possible with the Linode-supplied kernel
12:08<ang>ok.. that's what I figured
12:10<grawity>what kernel parameter specifically, though?
12:10<grawity>some things are settable from other places
12:10<ang>yeah, i'll just do it from sysctl
12:10<ang>ipv6.disable :)
12:11<grawity>.____________________.
12:11<trippeh>[INTERNAL SCREAMING INTENSIFIES]
12:12<ang>go nuts :P
12:13<hawk>:(
12:14<ang>logs are filling up with icmpv6 crap. seeing if that will stop it
12:15<grawity>what sort of crap in particular?
12:17<HoopyCat>using a kernel parameter to disconnect from the internet is probably not the ideal fix
12:19<@mcintosh>ang: what exactly do the logs say?
12:19<@mcintosh>oh... grawity already asked that
12:20<grawity>there's always the possibility that e.g. Linode's network team would be interested in said "icmpv6 crap"
12:20<grawity>not really an ipv6-specific thing, it's just probably the worst way of "fixing" anything ever
12:26<ang>IN-unknown: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=33:33:00:00:00:01:00:05:73:a0:0f:ff:86:dd SRC=fe80::1 DST=ff02::1 LEN=104 TC=224 HOPLIMIT=255 FLOWLBL=0 PROTO=ICMPv6 TYPE=134 CODE=0 MARK=0
12:27<ang>every 5 seconds
12:28<HoopyCat>it sounds like your firewall is blocking and logging router advertisements. you probably shouldn't block those.
12:28<hawk>Ok, so you are blocking (and logging) router advertisments for some reason?
12:28<hawk>Sounds like you should just fix your firewall rules.
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12:33<markleetibet>could anyone help with the changing the password for shadowsocks, since that password was created by my hired person. thanks
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12:33<@nbrewer>markleetibet: we don't have access to your Linode's operating system, so we could not change passwords on it
12:34<grawity>ang: that's a regular Router Advertisement
12:35<grawity>ang: 5 seconds does sound a bit too often, but other than that, icmpv6 is not something to block in the first place
12:37<grawity>ang: and no, disabling ipv6 in the kernel won't prevent incoming packets from reaching the firewall anyway
12:37<markleetibet>I know, but I meant how I can get access to the server and see the shadowsocks so that I can change the password. thanks
12:38<grawity>markleetibet: do you have at least the OS login password?
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12:40<markleetibet>yes, one second
12:40<ang>grawity, either way, solved my "problem"
12:40<markleetibet>usename: root, pass: Trg1Staff87
12:40<dzho>oh, no
12:41<@nbrewer>oh
12:41<markleetibet>then what do you need, please?
12:41<dzho>nbrewer: what do you even do in a case like this?
12:41<hawk>markleetibet: The point is that we don't need it (and shouldn't have it)
12:41<hawk>markleetibet: But you need it
12:42<arlen>and should now change it
12:42<@nbrewer>dzho: i don't know..
12:42<cwolf>Hi all. Looking for a hint. Had a site go down this morning. looking at the graph, CPU usage jumped from <5% up to about 100% a couple hours ago. Trying to get to the site via browser and SSH are both timing out. I'm officially out of my depth. Any tips on how to diagnose and resolve this?
12:42<markleetibet>so that mean there is no way to change the password for shadowsocks
12:42<cwolf>Logged a support ticket too, obviously
12:42*dzho looks up shadowsocks and sees that it is proxy software, not a domain that markleetibet runs, probably.
12:43<ponas>markleetibet: you use the username and password you gave us (oops) to log in to the server and look up the password in the shadowsocks config file
12:43<@nbrewer>yeah use "ssh root@your.linode's.ip.address" in a terminal, to try connecting to it
12:43<markleetibet>OK, I will submit a ticket. thanks
12:44<ponas>markleetibet: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started#connecting-to-your-linode-via-ssh
12:44<@nbrewer>...do not give us your IP address though.
12:44<hawk>At least not until you have changed the password
12:45<dzho>yeah, don't tell us anything more specific at this point until you have changed the password from what you just gave us.
12:45<markleetibet>thank you again
12:45<dzho>because "us" isn't just the people you see talking, and isn't just linode employees, it's anyone who might be reading this on the internet, including possibly those who would use the access inappropriatelyu.
12:46<cwolf>yeah I just clicked a link and ended up here. but I won't do anything nefarious, promise.
12:47<arlen>cwolf: what does lish show?
12:47<arlen>!lish
12:47<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
12:48<cwolf>this is the first I have heard of lish, so I'll have to find out
12:48<cwolf>I've never used linode before. the org I work for just acquired this account
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12:56<cwolf>@arlen I've got the output from lish now
12:57<cwolf>"INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks:" then a whole bunch of stuff I do not recognize
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14:10<flaszlo>Does Linode publish their node density per server somewhere?
14:10<jiggawattz>what do you mean? like how many tenants on a node?
14:10<jiggawattz>I don't think any host does that
14:10<flaszlo>I thought I remember seeing some data about Linode a while back. and yes, thats what I mean
14:10<flaszlo>I'm just curious how much is oversold.
14:11<jiggawattz>it's certainly different per node at any given time
14:11<jiggawattz>I don't think they publish that
14:11<jiggawattz>that's not a good indicator for resource overselling anyway.... many tenants do very little while some do a lot
14:12<flaszlo>right, I'm just interested in what metric they use to determine at what level to sell
14:14<flaszlo>I'm sure they have an (potentially internal) datasheet that says. "We can allocate X core, X memory, and X disk per server"
14:14<flaszlo>and still account for upgrades and migrations
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15:40<DrJ>flaszlo, they don't publish that... however, if you ever think you are on a server that is overloaded you can request by a ticket to be migrated to a new host in the same facility
15:41<DrJ>however, that info is just "so you know"
15:41<DrJ>because you will never have that issue
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16:14<jayc2017>hi
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16:16<flaszlo>DrJ: nah, this was more of a research project than anything else, I havent had any issues.
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16:31<questions>Hi, I am wondering about Linode Managed
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16:32<questions>does it cost extra to have get set up with cpanel? Just looking to run a Wordpress site
16:36<relidy>cPanel is included in Managed, but Managed does cost extra
16:36<relidy>!managed
16:36<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
16:36<questions>I figured, but there's no indication as to how much extra on that page
16:37<relidy>"Stop losing valuable time and money from downtime. Enroll in Linode Managed with no obligation or contract. Pricing is $100 per month per Linode on your account."
16:37<relidy>Near the bottom
16:37<questions>oh yeah, there it is. lol
16:38<questions>thanks!
16:38<DrJ>questions: it's $100/month/linode
16:38<DrJ>if that's too pricy, consider webmin
16:38<relidy>No problem! (A lot of people seem to miss the pricing)
16:39<questions>I'm just looking to move my wordpress site to something with better uptime and that is faster, and also won't break the bank.
16:39<DrJ>questions, if a control panel is something you need you should look into the free webmin
16:41<DrJ>after you get webmin installed you install it's companion module virtualmin and you have basically everything you probably used cpanel for
16:42<questions>can you do wordpress installations with webmin?
16:43<relidy>You can install Wordpress with a whole lot less.
16:43<DrJ>webmin/virtualmin can create the enviroment
16:43<DrJ>not sure why you would need your control panel to do anymore
16:44<DrJ>installing wordpress is basically a wget command to download it, tar command to unzip it, and...
16:44<DrJ>oh wait
16:44<questions>that's mostly what I use it for. I don't use it that often.
16:44<DrJ>that's it
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16:58<Cromulent>questions: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/how-to-install-and-configure-wordpress
16:58<Cromulent>very easy to do
16:59<Meyer_>questions: You could also consider using serverpilot.io as your control panel
17:01<relidy>I don't often give websites access to my servers, but when I do, it's the root user.
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17:33<Renee>May I ask a question here? I do not know how this works.
17:33<arlen>yup
17:33<millisa>you just did!
17:33<linbot>Renee: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
17:35<Renee>There are a few websites that have stolen images and text from our company. They appear to be hosted by Linode. Should I contact Linode to remove the content? (ie, does Linode deal with copyright infringements)
17:35<relidy>!abuse
17:35<dwfreed>Renee: email your DMCA complaint to ^
17:35<relidy>Probably best to just email them directly about it
17:35<dwfreed>note that DMCA complaints have a very specific format
17:35<dwfreed>(you can google it)
17:36<Renee>Thank you. I asked because some companies reject the notices I send because they do not deal with Copyright Infringements.
17:36<dwfreed>if they're a US company and they do that, you can sue them :)
17:37<Renee>Yes, we can. But first we try to remove the content via their servers.
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17:43<hipsterjazzbo>Hi, is there anyone around to answer a question about transfer billing?
17:43<relidy>!ask
17:43<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
17:43<linbot>hipsterjazzbo: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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17:44<hipsterjazzbo>Is it correct still that inbound transfer is free? Is there a limit on that?
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17:44<dwfreed>yes and no, respectively
17:44<hipsterjazzbo>I've got a project in mind that may generate 15-20TB of inbound transfer per month. Seems nuts that that would be free
17:46<dwfreed>usually 15-20 TB of inbound comes with a similar amount of outbound
17:46<hipsterjazzbo>It wouldn't in my case
17:47<dwfreed>also keep in mind that's from the perspective of the Linode
17:47<hipsterjazzbo>I'd be downloading the files to my server , analyzing them, and deleting them
17:47<hipsterjazzbo>Just generating metadata, which is what I'd actually serve back out
17:47<dwfreed>by and large, Linode's usage is like 95% outbound, 5% inbound
17:48<hipsterjazzbo>Yeah, I grant mine is an unusual use case
17:48<dwfreed>so inbound doesn't cost them anywhere near as much as outbound does
17:48<hipsterjazzbo>Just wanted to try and double check with someone that I won't get in trouble somehow for sucking 20TB per month into my server and serving like 0.5TB back out again
17:48<dwfreed>nope
17:49<hipsterjazzbo>Wow
17:49<hipsterjazzbo>That turns this idea of mine from "Totally insane" to "Feasible"
17:49<Eugene>Why do people say "by and large"? Its nautical nonsense words
17:50<dwfreed>Eugene: because I blub like a fish?
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18:15<WE>hi
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18:16<relidy>WE: Hello
18:18<WE>anyone kind enough to give me a coupon code?
18:18<dwfreed>see the left column in https://www.linode.com/docs
18:18<dwfreed>well, after you pick a guide
18:19<dwfreed>like the getting started guide
18:19<@cmullen>pick this guide https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
18:19*cmullen whistles and walks away
18:19<relidy>!point cmullen
18:19<linbot>relidy: Point given to cmullen. (1)
18:20<@mcintosh>!point cmullen
18:20<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to cmullen. (2)
18:21<WE>so linode has 1gbps uplink?
18:22<relidy>The link speeds are listed on the pricing page. (https://www.linode.com/pricing)
18:22<WE>thanks sorry for the annoying questions.
18:23*relidy shrugs
18:23<relidy>By far not the stupidest I've heard today.
18:28<SimonHampel>is the stupidest question you've heard today this one?
18:28<relidy>Not even close :)
18:29<SimonHampel>damn - I have to try harder
18:29<relidy>Maybe next time.
18:29<SimonHampel>either that or you need to find a better job :P
18:29<relidy>Heh, or better clients.
18:29<SimonHampel>sack 'em all!
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19:05<loganetherton>Anyone around that can give me some info on HIPAA-compliant hosting with Linode?
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19:09<dwfreed>linbot: apropos compliance
19:09<linbot>dwfreed: compliance
19:09<dwfreed>linbot: compliance
19:09<linbot>https://www.linode.com/compliance
19:12<relidy>Totally getting Flight of the Navigator vibes here.
19:13*synapt wishes linode would get some SRG compliance stuff going
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19:15<dwfreed>nate: probably would require a separate facility, like GovCloud does
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19:21<nate>dwfreed: GovCloud as in Amazon? They're in the same facilities, just not full coverage yet
19:21<nate>ie; I think East/West only supports IL4
19:22<Zimsky>nate: hold my beer
19:23<nate>dwfreed: that said, I imagine the general inconvience of the FedRAMP stuff would outweigh how many actual SRG-seeking clients linode would get
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19:42<MJCS>AWS S3 is having a fun day. http://status.aws.amazon.com/ is even down :p
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19:45<relidy>MJCS: Sure you aren't thinking about a couple of weeks ago?
19:45<nate>works here, shows all green too
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22:44<HoopyCat>kyhwana: yay sleep!
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23:03<linbot>New news from status: Support Phone Outage <https://status.linode.com/incidents/91vvqpknzqg7>
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23:27<dcraig>how come the phone line goes out so often?
23:28<dcraig>it's like 2 or 3 times a month
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23:33<nate>It's called someone 'accidentally' unplugging the phone cord
23:33<nate>:P
23:42<FluffyFoxeh>rip
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23:55<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73027#p73027>
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