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00:06<Guest588>how hard is it to createa discourse.org forum and a static website, for the non developer ?
00:07<Guest588>i used to make falsh websites during the flash days
00:07<Guest588>and managed hosting
00:08<dcraig>it's no longer the flash days?
00:08<Guest588>flash*
00:08<Guest588>flash died!
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00:09<millisa>it's not an official linode doc but: http://crunchify.com/how-to-setup-discourse-org-forum-on-linode-correct-way-tested-and-verified-steps/
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00:10<Guest588>thanks millisa
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00:11<Guest588>can i have a static webpage a blog and a forum on the same linode
00:11<millisa>you can run whatever you want on a linode (that is legal and not against the tos)
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00:11<millisa>it's possible to host lots of sites on a single linode
00:12<Guest588>awesome
00:12<Guest588>thanks
00:12<dcraig>you can do it all, you can have it all, you can be it all
00:12<Ikaros>Oh go away dcraig
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00:13<millisa>whether its easy to do with that weird discourse setup *shrug*
00:13<dcraig>you can even ikaros in the morning
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00:15<Guest588>is managing your own server difficult?
00:15<Guest588>is it time consuming ?
00:16<millisa>do you ask your mechanic if repairing cars is difficult?
00:16<millisa>(I don't think it's that hard, but it consumes all my time because I get paid for it)
00:17<Guest588>imjust trying to understand if its something that i can learn doing myself
00:17<millisa>why don't you take a look at the getting started guide and the couple other guides it lists at the end. it can give you an idea what it's like to set one of these up
00:17<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
00:17<millisa>then try it and see. linode's by the hour, so there's not much risk in seeing if you can do it.
00:18<Guest588>hey, thanks a bunch
00:18<Guest588>perfect
00:18<millisa>take backups, expect you'll break it entirely at some point, and you'll have have to restore. unlike a car, you can go back to a point in time pretty easy when you make a mess of it
00:19<millisa>have have . . .have have . . .
00:20<dcraig>you'll have had to have had some time to get it right
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00:26<Greenleave>are there any resellers of cpanel for use on lindes?
00:27<Greenleave>linodes
00:29<millisa>buycpanel.com is pretty cheap
00:29<Greenleave>thx
00:36<Guest588>any opinions on digitalocean ?
00:37<millisa>several folks here use it in addition to their linodes. you can get more ram for your $ at linode. DO's got their block storage going.
00:38<Guest588>millisa, ur very helpful thanks
00:38<millisa>same deal with them on billing - try them out, too. I vaguely remember it being harder to get any prelim deposit back from them, but it's not like you have to start the account off with much
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01:02<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Error when starting fail2ban if sshd enabled <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14645&p=73040#p73040>
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01:14<Greenleave>there was a customer on linode in the past that had affordable panel licenses not but time does fly
01:16<Greenleave>also, if I apply channel for personal use not to host sites, just mail and articles would I need to upgrade to better plan on Linode?
01:16<Greenleave>channel/cpanel
01:17<millisa>unless I've misread something, you'd need the cpanel vps licensing on a linode
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01:19<Raj__>hi
01:19<millisa>Greetings
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01:19<Greenleave>I want to license channel for vps on linode, did it before and worked great but prices has come of for license
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01:20<Greenleave>cpanwl^
01:20<Greenleave>pfff cpanel
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01:21<Greenleave>guess 15 bucks is the cheapest for vps atm
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01:21<millisa>I haven't seen it lower recently. it's 20 if you get it straight from cpanel.
01:21<millisa>It's about a dollar cheaper if you do their yearly pricing.
01:23<Greenleave>in that case id go with cpanel for 14,95, but will I require a upgrade linode to function
01:24<Greenleave>I will open ticket at support and ask just be sure
01:24<millisa>It'll technically run on the smallest linode, but even cpanel suggests you do a little more ram: https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/ALD/Installation+Guide+-+System+Requirements
01:24<millisa>This may be useful to you: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/install-cpanel-on-centos
01:25<@jchun>Greenleave : Linode doesn't offer cPanel licenses (unless you are using Linode Managed), so the cheapest external license provider you can find is your best bet.
01:28<Greenleave>jchubn I know this, just wanted to ask if it was necessary to upgrade my linode to be able to run cpanel without trouble
01:28<Greenleave>excuse my typo its the autocorrect
01:29<Greenleave>thanks Melissa I will take a look at the installation guide and requirement
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02:52<hsn>hey guys i wanna buy the 5$ package for fb app, do you support https here?
02:52<dwfreed>why wouldn't they?
02:52<dwfreed>it's a VPS, which means you get a server to run what you want on it
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02:54<hsn>i see so do i need to buy an additional ip to avail the ssl?
02:54<dwfreed>nope
02:54<dwfreed>!ips
02:54<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
02:56<hsn>can I buy the package for 6 months? or i have to pay for whole year?
02:56<millisa>you can buy it for an hour if you want
02:56<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments for more info
02:57<hsn>That's great, thanks for the help. Appreciate it.
03:00<hsn>Btw, do you sell and config ssl cert or i have to manage it and config my self?
03:01<millisa>The expectation is you do that yourself, but if you are interested, Linode's got a managed offering and a professional services offering. The last one is more about doing configs and such for you. Both are talked about here: https://www.linode.com/addons
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04:08<sergio>hey
04:08<sergio>i need a server!
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04:08<dwfreed>so buy one
04:08<Guest602>i need to host a game server
04:09<Guest602>i want something like 2gb core
04:09<Guest602>and 1gb ram
04:09<Guest602>1 TB a month
04:09<Guest602>how much is that?
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04:31<rsdehart>!pricing
04:31<linbot>https://www.linode.com/pricing
04:31<rsdehart>guest60
04:31<rsdehart>oh. heh.
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04:52<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Error when starting fail2ban if sshd enabled <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14645&p=73041#p73041>
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04:57<arun_>Hi I have disabled remote ssh root access for my linode instance. And created a new user for remote access but I forgot to add the new user to sudoers file. Now I don't have sudo power for my new user also my remote root login is disabled too. Is there any solution to have root access to my instance again?
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04:57<Guest606>Hi I have disabled remote ssh root access for my linode instance. And created a new user for remote access but I forgot to add the new user to sudoers file. Now I don't have sudo power for my new user also my remote root login is disabled too. Is there any solution to have root access to my instance again?
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04:58<arlen>!lish
04:58<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
04:58<millisa>type 'su' and put in your root password?
04:58<Guest606>k
04:58<Guest606>thnaks
04:58<Guest606>thanks
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04:59<ranjeet>hello guys
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05:00<ranjeet>I am trying to create node from ansible but getting error TASK [newvm : Create linode server via Linode API] ***************************** fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "failed": true, "msg": "unsupported parameter for module: private_ip"} to retry, use: --limit @/opt/newvm/server-setup/newvm.retry PLAY RECAP ********************************************************************* localhost : ok=2 changed=0 unreac
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05:07<ranjeet>Guys please help
05:08<kyhwana>something to do with the private_ip module?
05:09<dwfreed>whatever version of the Linode module he has doesn't understand the 'private_ip' parameter
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05:10<dwfreed>make sure you're looking at the docs for the version of ansible/module you have installed
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05:14<Losefar>hello
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05:15<dwfreed>bye
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05:27<JamesTK>dwfreed: bye
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05:43<ranjeet>I think private ip is supported by Ansible http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/linode_module.html
05:44<ranjeet>root@nagios ansible-2.3.0.0]# ansible --version ansible 2.2.1.0 config file = /etc/ansible/ansible.cfg configured module search path = Default w/o overrides
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05:47<ranjeet>guys please help
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05:51<ranjeet>?
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07:57<ranjeet>Hey friends I want to add dynamic inventory in host please help me how I can do that. Here is my ansible task
07:58<ranjeet>--- - include_vars: /opt/newvm/server-setup/vars/main.yml - name: Fail if server_hostname is not defined fail: msg="server_hostname needs to be defined via commandline, e.g. --extra-vars server_hostname=flower" when: server_hostname is not defined - name: Create linode server via Linode API linode: api_key: "{{ api_key }}" name: "{{ server_hostname }}" plan: "{{ linode_plan }}" datacenter: "{{ linode_datacenter }}" private_ip: y
07:59<ranjeet>- name: Show me the registered linode debug: var=localhost - name: Add new host to tracking inventory add_host: hostname: "{{ localhost.instance.ipv4 }}" groupname: "localhost"
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08:14<Gaddy>hi
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08:15<Gaddy>Server requirements to host a CSGO server ? Linode 4GB $20/mo ($.03/hr) 4 GB RAM 2 CPU Cores 48 GB SSD Storage 3 TB Transfer 40 Gbps Network In 1000 Mbps Network Out
08:15<Gaddy>it's good ?
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08:45<Ajay_>HI
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08:46<Ajay_>Can i have multiple server for my single website
08:46<Ajay_>See the problem is my linode location is fremont and when i tried to access it from India it give me problem some time website is not loading
08:47<Ajay_>Please help me sort this out
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09:01<DrJ>Ajay_, you sure the loading issue is just from India?
09:02<DrJ>also, it is possible to host a website across multiple locations
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09:03<DrJ>there's things you have to do though such as making sure the files are synced, as well as any database, and in some cases session data
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09:10<nem>Anyone using linode with softether VPN?
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09:15<grawity>nem: are you having some problems with it?
09:15<nem>I need to get a portwarded through the VPN to my machine
09:19<grawity>sounds like regular iptables DNAT
09:19<nem>Some traffic isnt getting through. I have flushed firewall even and then it works, sort of
09:19<nem>Ill have someone smarter than me set it up
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13:01<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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13:04<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Error when starting fail2ban if sshd enabled <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14645&p=73042#p73042>
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13:48<Cromulent>hmm is there a way to encrypt data on the server without leaving private keys lying around in case someone hacks the server?
13:50<rnowak>Cromulent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography ?
13:52<Cromulent>rnowak: I may be misunderstanding but when you store encrypted data in a database you also need the private key to decrypt it so that clients can display the data I thought? Unless each client has the private key distributed with itself but that doesn't really work with websites - of course as I said I could be completely wrong
13:52<rnowak>you're out of luck if the server needs to be able to access it
13:52<rnowak>you didn't mention that being a requirement :P
13:53<Cromulent>ah sorry my bad
13:55<dzho>Cromulent: it's not a general purpose solution by any means, but there is such a thing as homomorphic encryption, which allows *some* manipulations of encrypted data while it's encrypted
13:55<Cromulent>ah nice I've never heard of that
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13:56<rnowak>chances are you won't be able to use it :>
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13:56<dzho>probably not, yeah
14:01<dzho>Cromulent: if you're not aware, you may also be interest in things like Tahoe-LAFS
14:06<Cromulent>dzho: I'll look into it thanks
14:08<Cromulent>dzho: oh that sounds interesting
14:08<Cromulent>probably a bit overkill for my simple application though
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14:09<Cromulent>if a user freely posts about their illnesses and you display it to anyone logged in (the user knows this will happen) then I'm wondering whether encrypting the data is all that important - I mean it is given freely to a semi public audience
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14:46<Louis6321>Looks like Singapore just died for about 60 seconds
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14:55<shentino>hey
14:55<Louis6321>hi
14:55<shentino>just got my 1G economy class on hourly
14:55<shentino>so um...can I install a homebrew? I couldn't log in and I just decided that I'd much rather build my linode from scratch
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14:57<shentino>as in I'd like to build and unpack a stage 3 tarball for gentoo and install it myself :). Is that possible?
14:57<arlen>yup
14:57<@caker>sure. You can use rescue mode or even a small bootstrapping distro to lob up whatever you want into another disk image, and then boot that
15:00<shentino>I think using Grub 2 as a kernel might be helpful
15:00<shentino>Basically I want as much of a barebones system as possible
15:01<@mquatrani>shentino: this tutorial will be helpful https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
15:02<shentino>>:D
15:03<@caker>empty out your Linode. Create an ext4 disk, boot into rescue mode, connect to console, run 'passwd', start ssh, connect via ssh. Maybe mount the disk somewhere (/mnt/sda?) if copying files, scp/ssh up the files into the mountpoint. Or skip mounting and use dd.
15:04<@caker>perform any final massaging, shut down. Create a config profile, boot new config profile, profit?
15:04<shentino>I'm going to have my linode installed on LVM :3
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15:09<shentino>basically this is my chance to kick around and see what happens
15:09<shentino>I'm just pushing as many buttons as I can to learn how it works
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15:17<shentino>yay!
15:17<shentino>I made my linode kernel panic
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15:21<shentino>Anyway, is there a way to just boot finnix on my linode, and have it see just a bare, 20G disk?
15:22<Eugene>Sure, you just make a disk and then boot to rescue mode?
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15:32<arooni>question ; elasticemail; is saying to set up spf record such as ; v=spf1 a mx include:_spf.google.com include:spf.elasticemail.com ~all ... currently i have: v=spf1 include:domain1 include:domain2.com; but i dont have the a or mx part. do i need to add that at the beginning? or will i mess things up by adding the a and mx at beginning ?
15:33<shentino>Can I boot my linode using UEFI? :P
15:39<Eugene>I don't think so
15:39<Eugene>But I've never tried, so maybe!
15:39<Eugene>It's just `qemu-img` underneath
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15:39<shentino>cool
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15:47<raj__>can i install wordpress in linode hosting ?
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15:48<@mquatrani>raj__: Of course! https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/how-to-install-and-configure-wordpress
15:49<raj__>@mquatrani thanks
15:49<@mquatrani>netime
15:51<shentino>ok I just created a single GPT partition
15:51<shentino>which is a single LVM partition
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15:53<shentino>Does the "direct disk" kernel act like UEFI?
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16:04<trippeh>shentino: direct disk is legacy BIOS
16:04<shentino>:(
16:04<shentino>so direct disk doesn't use EFI?
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16:04<shentino>what does the "GRUB 2" method do?
16:04<FluffyFoxeh>EFI on qemu/KVM is kind of experimental isn't it
16:04<shentino>Fluffy: I don't know, I'm just pushing the envelope every direction I can
16:05<trippeh>shentino: it just reads grub.conf off your disk
16:05<shentino>where does it try to find it?
16:05<FluffyFoxeh>pushing that particular envolope probably won't get you anywhere useful on a server anyway
16:05<trippeh>shentino: /boot/grub/grub.cfg iirc
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16:06<FluffyFoxeh>could also install GRUB on your linode's disk, I would think
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16:06<trippeh>FluffyFoxeh: that's how you would use Direct Disk
16:06<FluffyFoxeh>yeah
16:06<shentino>Can the grub 2 boot method find /boot/grub/grub.cfg if your disk is a GPT partitioned, and the single partition is LVM, with a single volume? :P
16:07<trippeh>unlikely
16:07<trippeh>though grub can read a lot of things..
16:08<FluffyFoxeh>pretty sure GRUB can boot from LVM on GPT
16:08<shentino>only one way to find out :)
16:09<FluffyFoxeh>but
16:09<shentino>but can the GRUB supplied by the host's boot method do that?
16:09<FluffyFoxeh>yes I was about to say, I don't know if you a) need specific configuration to do that or b) if Linode's version of GRUB will do it
16:10<trippeh>lately I've been doing a separate /boot disk image with direct disk. then the main image can be pretty much anything.
16:10<FluffyFoxeh>but I'm almost certain it can be done because some distro installers set up LVM, and they can do so on GPT
16:10<FluffyFoxeh>lol in fact I may even be running like that right now
16:11<trippeh>sure, grub itself supports all that. even stacked on md devices.
16:11<trippeh>I doubt linodes is configured for it.
16:11<FluffyFoxeh>yep, my desktop is running LVM on top of GPT. and it boots with GRUB
16:11<shentino>I'm not used to having a machine whose disk is *not* partitioned
16:12<FluffyFoxeh>(Linux Mint 18.1)
16:12<FluffyFoxeh>shentino: I don't bother with partition tables on my storage disks :p
16:12<FluffyFoxeh>I just mkfs /dev/sdx
16:12*shentino 's desktop uses gentoo
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16:29<gbit>Hi, there is any to make NodeBalancer support LetsEncrypt? What I mean is to make certbot-auto auto renew certs using NodeBalancer?
16:32<gbit>any way*
16:32<@caker>just put the cert and key in the NB config, no?
16:33<@caker>or use TCP passthrough and terminate SSL on the backend Linodes
16:33<gbit>Hi caker, the problem is that they expire every 90 days
16:33<@caker>ah
16:33<@caker>Can automate somewhere using the Linode API: https://www.linode.com/api/nodebalancer/nodebalancer.config.update
16:34<gbit>cheers, I will have a look
16:40<shentino>BTW
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16:42<dumbledore>is the CPU usage for my linode shared? is it abusive to run programs that consume 100% of my CPU usage for long amounts of time?
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16:43<@caker>it is shared, yes - so be kind
16:43<gbit>caker: any plans for a DC in south america?
16:44<gbit>sorry I had to ask since you're around :)
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16:45<dumbledore>ok thank you caker. i will stop waht im doing then XD. glad i asked before someone had to poke me.
16:45<dumbledore>cheers!
16:45<@caker>dumbledore: well, don't want to discourage you from use of your Linode ... there are far worse abusers than someone spinning one core
16:46<@caker>gbit: we'd like to yes, but it's not in the active missions yet
16:46<dumbledore>caker: ok, maybe I will look into running only 1 thread, and having it run in intervals for 5m then rest for 10m or something like that. dont want to waste my CPU cycles, but also dont want to harm others
16:46<gbit>caker: thats good to know, I'm a Linode customer for 7 years now, I will be glad if someday this comes real. Thank you
16:47<@mquatrani>!point dumbledore
16:47<linbot>mquatrani: Point given to dumbledore. (1)
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21:15<JeremyE77>you guys my ipv6 is bad! fe1f:dbad
21:17<retro|blah>Lucky you
21:20<retro|blah>That would be an even worse IPv4 address :P
21:21<dwfreed>yeah, wouldn't even be reachable
21:22<dwfreed>254.31.219.173
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