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---Logopened Sun Apr 02 00:00:51 2017
00:13<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73154#p73154>
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01:36<Ashish>hi
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01:37<aashish>HI
01:37<aashish>any one
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01:41<arlen>hi
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01:58<zifnab>dwfreed: you ever think of setting up honeypot accounts here?
01:59<zifnab>just some random clients that kill/akill when their name is mentioned
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02:25<awni>Hi
02:25<awni>i want to know if the linode we add to our account has operating system in it
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02:26<awni>and if not can we buy one from here ?
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03:36<nate>wha
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06:16<deathspawn>how hard is it to make the protocol editable for the SRV records so we don't have to make a new zone file just for one SRV record
06:20<Woet>about 7 hards
06:22<ponas>more like 5 i would say
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06:55<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Roof restoration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14682&p=73155#p73155>
07:01<Woet>ponas: lets settle on 6
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07:13<q__>hello
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07:13<q__>hi matt
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07:13<q__>hello?
07:14<q__>hello!!
07:14<q__>i have a question
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07:19<jiggawattz>such patience
07:19<jiggawattz>2 minutes and c ya
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07:23<Woet>jiggawattz: still longer than your performance in bed
07:23<jiggawattz>Woet: stop spreading gayness in this channel
07:23<Woet>jiggawattz: stop being homophobic
07:23<jiggawattz>I know you pretend to know about my performance
07:23<jiggawattz>I know you fantasize about my performance, but.....
07:23<Woet>it aint pretending, i read the reviews
07:23<jiggawattz>not really OKAY here
07:24<Woet>#linode is very progressive and socially accepting
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08:55<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED error after REBOOT <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14683&p=73156#p73156>
08:56<Woet>"However, I just reboot the system as site were slowed down."
08:56<Woet>right
08:57<Woet>solid choice
08:57<Woet>especially when you have no clue how to manage a server
09:00<Zimsky>https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-14.1
09:00<Zimsky>TIL
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10:30<shirro>is there a way to make an account enquiry if i can't log into my account?
10:30<@mcintosh>shirro: email support@linode.com
10:43<shirro>mcintosh: thanks.
10:44<@mcintosh>no problem
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10:58<shirro>mcintosh: do you know if those emails are handled 24x7 or will there be a delay?
10:58<@mcintosh>support is always 24x7
10:59<shirro>ok, that is awesome
10:59<Woet>just like there will always be a delay
10:59<Woet>because support isnt instant
10:59<Woet>and you're not paying for a SLA
10:59<shirro>understood. i don't expect miracles. it is my stuff up anyway.
10:59<Woet>what happened?
11:01<shirro>i forgot to leave payment funds in my account. but i have dynamic ip restriction and email server on linode so i can't log in to make payment. dumb. dumb. dumb
11:02<Woet>dynamic IP restrictions are silly
11:02<Woet>use 2FA instead
11:02<shirro>i do use 2fa. and yes they are silly
11:02<Woet>and at least add a static IP if you want to use IP restrictions, e.g. a private VPN
11:02<shirro>at least i have my 2fa
11:03<Woet>thats all you need
11:03<Woet>and a strong random password thats in your password manager
11:03<shirro>i had a static ip for the last 13 years and just changed to dynamic so old habits die hard
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11:24<pavan>hi
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11:24<@mcintosh>hello!
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11:25<pavan>i have some problem while configuring mail
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11:26<@mcintosh>what problem?
11:27<pavan>mail command shows success. but mails are in queue only
11:30<pavan>do you have any idea.of. how to configure sending mails
11:32<@mcintosh>is your firewall blocking traffic on port 25?
11:32<Woet>pavan: which MTA are you using?
11:32<Woet>pavan: did you check the error log?
11:36<pavan>i am using postfix
11:37<pavan>postqueue: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly
11:38<shirro>it turns out my servers are running so perhaps i have credit in my account after all but linode nameservers aren't resolving my domain. looks like I can fix this myself
11:38<@mcintosh>shirro: what domain?
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11:50<arte>Hi
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12:37<shirro>if you are a dnssec newb check the duration when you sign your zones. save some future embarrassment. better to stuff up the play ones than work ones i guess
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13:19<Celti>I did DNSSEC by hand with BIND and DNSSEC tools, to make sure I understood it
13:19<Woet>no one understands dnssec
13:19<Celti>and then I blew that all away and have PowerDNS do it automatically to make it *much* harder to screw up
13:19<Woet>not even ahu
13:21<Celti>DNSSEC isn't honestly that hard to figure out, there's just a serious dearth of comprehensive documentation
13:21<Celti>(And no, the RFCs don't count as documentation no matter how many times people say they do. :-p)
13:23<Peng>DNSSEC makes me nervous. I only operate unsigned zones; i use hosted services for signed zones.
13:23<Peng>I'm happy to manage SSL certificates for myself, but not DNSSEC keys, apparently.
13:23<grawity>good thing DNSSEC keys don't have a set expiry time ._.
13:23<Celti>Heh
13:23<grawity>I let bind9 automate signing, but hell if I ever have to rotate the keys
13:24<Celti>Key rollover was the biggest PITA when I was figuring it out, I'll admit
13:24<Peng>I wonder what Cloudflare would do if they ever had to rotate KSKs. :-/
13:24<Peng>There interface is just "lol here are your DS records, they'll never change"
13:25<shirro>grawity: keys don't expire but signatures do. it seems i overlooked that. still what is play for if not to learn
13:25<grawity>Peng: do they use EC or RSA?
13:25<Peng>grawity: P-256 ECDSA
13:25<grawity>shirro: well yes but that's much easier to deal with
13:25<Celti>It's fun to read about the keysigning rituals for the DNSSEC root
13:25<grawity>Peng: aha
13:25<grawity>I should probably switch to that as well
13:26<Peng>Their* !
13:26<grawity>[last time I tried, bind9 crashed.]
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13:27<Peng>I don't mean to go on like a Cloudflare fan, but it's pretty slick. They avoid zone enumeration issue by dynamically signing fake NSEC records with <queried name> + 1.
13:27<Peng>I think PowerDNS can do something similar?
13:27<Celti>Yes, it can
13:27<Celti>Not the default, though
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13:27<Celti>Or wasn't when I set mine up that way
13:27<Peng>Nice
13:28<Peng>I don't use PowerDNS. :<
13:29<Celti>I like PowerDNS. I used to hate it when I had to deal with it at a previous job
13:29<Celti>but then when doing research on the various DNS servers out there I learned I don't hate pdns, I hate several of its frontends
13:29<Peng>that CAA record issue, though. D:
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13:30<Celti>PowerDNS 4 supports CAA records properly.
13:30<Peng>Yeah. But it didn't before.
13:30*Celti shrugs.
13:31<staticsafe>PowerDNS 4 is really good and it has some really nice frontends
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13:31*Celti hasn't bothered with any frontend besides the CLI tool it finally comes with
13:31<staticsafe>I like nsedit - https://github.com/tuxis-ie/nsedit
13:31<staticsafe>I'm still using BIND because switching is *effort*
13:31<Celti>Mostly because the various frontends all have issues with DNSSEC, last time I tried
13:32<Peng>I recently switched from NSD to Knot. :D
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13:32<Celti>Mmmh. I miss having a job where I get to play with this kind of stuff daily.
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13:36<Peng>Nothing against NSD, but Knot supports dynamic IPv6 rDNS zones. And IXFR.
13:36<staticsafe>probably should re-sign my domains with alg 13
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13:38<staticsafe>sadiqsaif.com and .ca are signed with alg 13 since they are fairly new but rest are alg 8
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15:38<latifolia>what are we talking about here ?
15:43<@mcintosh>linode
15:50<jiggawattz>beers and linode
15:50<jiggawattz>are ontopic
15:50*FluffyFoxeh linodes
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16:03<arlen>nerd stuff
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16:18<bittin>Got help now so ticket 7747871 can be closed, thanks for the help was locked out of my account as my old iPhone 6 broke, so got a new one from the Apple Store on Warranty but forgot to backup my 2FA stuff, but sent my ID and Credit Card too you and got it sorted now :)
16:18<bittin>and paid the 2 outstanding bills i had when i was locked out from my account and updated my Fedora VPS
16:18<bittin>so everything works fine now, thanks for the help guys :)
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16:26<latifolia>Guys, on AWS I have security groups acting as firewall. If i rent VPS on linode should I care about firewall myself or Linode take care of it ?
16:27<@mcintosh>latifolia: you must take care of firewalling
16:29<latifolia>@mcintosh, thanks for responding. So there is no protection at all if I dont configure my own firewall ? I just need to spawn a few services.
16:30<@mcintosh>right - you must firewall on your own if that's something you desire/need
16:31<latifolia>OK. thanks for your answer.
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16:38<latifolia>@mcintosh, are you working for Linode ?
16:39<@mcintosh>!ops
16:39<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
16:39<@mcintosh>(yes)
16:39<latifolia>how many servers are in Singapore datacenter for Linode ?
16:40<@mcintosh>many - the specific number isn't something we discuss publicly
16:40<latifolia>right, I just want to know because I will be accessing it within South East Asia to minimize bandwidth
16:41<arlen>more than 3
16:41<latifolia>Are they (SG servers) as reliable as their counterpart in US ?
16:41<arlen>yes
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16:42<latifolia>Thanks for answering. @arlen & mcintosh
16:42<arlen>#welcome
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16:43<latifolia>Can I know the maintenance history or downtime history specific for Singapore datacenter ? are there any links available ?
16:43<arlen>don't think Linode has anything but I have https://status.arlen.network
16:43<arlen>shows all data centers
16:44<latifolia>wow.. thanks @arlen, checking it out now
16:44<arlen>plus there's https://status.linode.com
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16:51<latifolia>One last question if I may. If ever we have datacenter crash (whole datacenter crash) shall I recover my own VM with my own backup manually (reinstal, etc, etc) or there will be automatic recovery if I subscribe Linode backup ?
16:52<arlen>if the host died, Linode will automatically move you to a new one
16:52<arlen>other than a host issue, it'd be up to you to fix things
16:53<latifolia>Ok, thanks.
16:54<arlen>:)
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17:10<Peng>"whole datacenter crash"
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17:28<arlen>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8QMRVoWsAAX8W6.jpg
17:28<Ikaros>Heh shit burned up
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18:03<react>latifolia: maybe investigate the concept of Availability Zones with GCP or Amazon if you have true DR needs
18:03<react>and nvm, he/she has already left
18:03*react SMH
18:07<Peng>"Availability Zones!"
18:08<Peng>"Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3) in the US East (N. Virginia) region may be experiencing elevated API error rates."
18:08<Peng>:P
18:09<Zimsky>"may be experiencing elevated API error rates"
18:09<Zimsky>lol
18:10<arlen>"lol"
18:10<Zimsky>"\"lol\""
18:11<retro|blah>\l\o\l
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22:15<Karrde>Just added a second node; now I have a banner that says "You have an outstanding balance!" Shouldn't it charge me automatically? Card is current
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22:20<FluffyFoxeh>in my experience that banner sometimes appears for a few hours between the time I get the invoice and the time they charge my card
22:20<FluffyFoxeh>so maybe just wait
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