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01:17<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • adidas y3 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14693&p=73191#p73191>
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01:27<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • nike flyknit air max womens <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14694&p=73192#p73192>
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01:28<Zimsky>who doesn't love new sneakers
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01:45<FluffyFoxeh>I wish android would stop shoving this stupid "Network may be monitored" message in my face
01:45<FluffyFoxeh>Telling me to check my trust store
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01:46<FluffyFoxeh>Yes Android, I added a self-signed certificate. It's my certificate. Stop fucking bothering me
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01:54<zifnab>FluffyFoxeh: i'd rather it be there than not be there
01:55<zifnab>you also get it if you have something using mdm apis, which is even better
01:55<zifnab>or VPN software
01:57<FluffyFoxeh>it'd be fine if I could turn it off
01:58<FluffyFoxeh>like a "do not show again (for this certificate)"
01:58<FluffyFoxeh>option
02:00<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: they added that in 7.0
02:01<FluffyFoxeh>oh, good to hear they improved something :p
02:03<Ikaros>Pfft, I'm stuck with 6.0
02:05<FluffyFoxeh>Started going downhill with 6.0 I think
02:05<FluffyFoxeh>With Doze and everything
02:06<dwfreed>You can disable Doze on a per-app basis
02:08<FluffyFoxeh>I'm more annoyed that they force apps to use their "cloud massaging" service to deliver notifications
02:08<FluffyFoxeh>(outside of whitelisting as you said, but apps aren't allowed to formally request whitelisting I read )
02:09<FluffyFoxeh>that just seems like a shitty move
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02:13<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: there's good reason for that, though
02:13<FluffyFoxeh>what is it?
02:13<dwfreed>only one TCP connection, which Google Play Services is responsible for maintaining
02:13<dwfreed>instead of one for each app
02:13<dwfreed>that does wonders for battery life
02:14<FluffyFoxeh>sure, but it also means sending all the notifications and their contents through google's servers. which I would not want
02:14<dwfreed>you don't have to include contents
02:15<FluffyFoxeh>that reduces the usefulness of the notification
02:15<dwfreed>in fact, if you read the implementation guidelines for GCM, it says that it should be used as a 'tickle'
02:15<dwfreed>it's not a direct notification
02:15<dwfreed>it's just a message
02:15<dwfreed>what you do in your app with the message is up to you
02:15<FluffyFoxeh>I did read that but I wasn't paying enough attention to figure out what a tickle is
02:15<dwfreed>the recommendation is that it's just an indication that it should sync
02:16<dwfreed>and then the app can grab a wake lock, sync, and do whatever
02:17<dwfreed>many apps end up putting real content in their GCM messages, because they aren't sending much, and they don't really care that much about privacy
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>but I thought apps were not allowed to wake or do network stuff during doze mode
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>isn't that the point of doze mode
02:17<FluffyFoxeh>aside from certain windows
02:17<dwfreed>GCM message means the phone's already awake
02:18<dwfreed>now, Android might merge several wake lock requests into one, but grabbing a wake lock will keep the phone awake
02:19<dwfreed>it will also merge "alarms" (timers to wake the phone) that are set to go off relatively close together
02:23<FluffyFoxeh>I see
02:25<Zimsky>dwfreed, FluffyFoxeh, can you not just encrypt said message when it passes through google's servers?
02:28<dwfreed>you could, yes
02:29<dwfreed>I mean, it's not like google actually cares what's passing through
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02:42<Ikaros>How nice of my ISP to push firmware and trigger a reboot out of nowhere.
02:45<arlen>fun times
02:45<Ikaros>Ooo, so that's what it was.
02:45<Ikaros>They changed the web UI branding
02:45<Ikaros>The last fringes of Verizon branding that existed in the router web UI is now gone.
02:46<Ikaros>...but they could have picked a better time to do that. I was watching something, the fckers...
02:46<Ikaros>:/
02:46<Ikaros>Interrupting my damn show :(
02:46<FluffyFoxeh>maybe store your shows offline and that won't happen
02:47<Ikaros>Kinda hard to do that with Netflix
02:47<dwfreed>you can download netflix shows onto your mobile device now
02:47<FluffyFoxeh>then I guess Netflix is inadequate
02:47<Ikaros>Heh dwfreed
02:47<Ikaros>Can't be assed to put it on my cell
02:48<Ikaros>But it still ticks me off they did that
02:48<arlen>I watch it every time I'm on a train
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04:42<Hilda>hi, i want to ask why i cannot logo in my id
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05:21<Zimsky>I can logo in the id
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06:12<Fred>has anyone tried out ip swap?
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06:48<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Setting Hostname <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&p=73193#p73193>
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07:18<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • nginx fastcgi_cache much much slower when "caching" WordPress, rather than a test php file <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14655&p=73139#p73139> || Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • Simple monitoring solution <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14677&p=73138#p73138>
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07:45<Elliot>Hi i am looking to transfer my website to you
07:45<dzho>!ops
07:45<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
07:46<dzho>!ask
07:46<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
07:46<Elliot>What phone support do you offer if there is any problems or incase i need an emergency copy of my website
07:46<dzho>www.linode.com/contact
07:47<dzho>https://www.linode.com/professional-services
07:48<Zimsky>ideally you should keep it backed up
07:49<dzho>pricing for professional services is in that page--it's an add-on, not included in the base plan pricing.
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07:53<DrJ>dzho: you are responsible for maintaining your website, or other services, on your linode including having backups
07:53<DrJ>managed services, which they will help you out with runs $100/linode/month
07:54<DrJ>sorry, Elliot
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09:52<CRT>hey
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09:53<waltman>I'm running ubuntu 16.10 on a linode. Last night while doing an update it gave me a warning about updating /etc/default/grub because it had been edited. I don't think I've ever touched it. Is grub something that linode manages?
09:56<Celti>I believe one of the Linode helper things edits /etc/default/grub so that your Linode has the proper console, etc. set if you choose to use a distro kernel instead of a Linode kernel.
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09:57<waltman>That's what I figured too. I just kept the file as it was.
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10:00<Winnie>Hi guys. Is it possible to spin up an instance based on CentOS 6.6?
10:00<@nbrewer>Winnie: The current image is CentOS 6.8
10:01<@nbrewer>If you need CentOS 6.6. specifically, you can follow this guide to use a custom image: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
10:02<Winnie>Thanks @nbrewer. Checking now.
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10:12<suikerbier>Do I need to inform support if they warned me about updating cc details and two days passed? I just got round to activating my new cc..
10:12<suikerbier>ticket is already closed and it said for now your linode is still running
10:12<suikerbier>don't want to open another ticked if not needed just to say I updated
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10:13<@nbrewer>suikerbier: this early in the month, you should be fine - if you still have a past due balance on your account, you may want to clear it by making a manual payment: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments#making-a-payment
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10:13<@nbrewer>otherwise, it will be deducted automatically.
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10:13<suikerbier>I made the payment and cc is updated just wanted to make sure I don't have to open another ticket to avoid getting my linode shutdown
10:13<suikerbier>thanks
10:14<@nbrewer>nope, if your balance is cleared you should be all set
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10:30<wartw>HI
10:31<@nbrewer>wartw: hello, feel free to ask your question
10:32<wartw>I can log in at 3 pm in Taiwan But now Taiwan has more than 10 o'clock time invalid user name or password My username is wartw I have one day the credit card is still in the certification to see such a thing a bit ... I have not received a letter to reset my password Taiwan time at 3 pm can also receive forgotten user name letters
10:33<wartw>Can I help answer this question?
10:33<wartw>Can you answer this question?
10:34<@nbrewer>wartw: if you can't access the Linode Manager, email support@linode.com with the last six digits of the credit card on file
10:35<wartw>Directly attached to the credit card number 6 yards after it?
10:36<@nbrewer>i dont' really understand that question
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10:38<wartw>OK~~Ask again tomorrow
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10:41<csnxs>6 yards
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10:51*Celti is befuddled
10:52<Celti>For weeks now, my laptop has crashed at almost exactly midnight, every night — or on resuming from suspend if I suspended it overnight
10:52<Celti>I finally tracked it down to logrotate, of all things, and have no idea where to troubleshoot that one further.
10:52<relidy>Short on diskspace?
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10:53<anairamzap>hi there, anyone knows if the fingerprints in https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish#lish-gateway-fingerprints have changed?
10:54<@nbrewer>anairamzap: they should be up to date, which fingerprint / DC are you connecting to?
10:54<anairamzap>tried with fremont and dallas and they don't match :S
10:55<@nbrewer>which one? RSA, ECDSA etc
10:55<anairamzap>@nbrewer ECDSA SHA256
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11:00<@nbrewer>anairamzap: it looks like you're correct, i'll get that fixed
11:01<anairamzap>nbrewer: ah, good to know, thanks :)
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11:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Download disk image over SSH <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14471&p=73194#p73194>
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11:39<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:04<Michael_>Hi guys, can you help with few pre sale questions for linode?
12:05<linbot>hello
12:05<@nbrewer>Michael_: sure
12:06<Michael_>Great. I want to know if I can host simple landing pages (1 page HTML) websites on linode and if its a difficult task with SSH? I used FTP only.
12:07<Michael_>Basically need to attach 1 domain to 1 page HTML website.
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12:07<@nbrewer>Michael_: The difficulty is going to depend on your comfort level with SSH and Linux in general. You're going to need to install and configure a web server - probably either Apache or nginx.
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12:08<Michael_>OK, I think I can find some tutorials for this.
12:09<Michael_>Thanks
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12:09<@nbrewer>Michael_: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites
12:09<@nbrewer>there's plenty there..Apache tends to be more user friendly for beginners, but nginx is a great choice if you're serving static content.
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12:11<mrosabal>Michael_: It isn't impossible. As Nick said, your comfort level is key. If you have never administered a linux system before and have no desire to do so, I would say you are prob better off with a managed webhosting provider
12:12<mrosabal>If you are interested, that is awesome because you will save yourself a lot of $$$$ in the long run but the time investment is heavy
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12:13<Michael_>Yeah, thats the reason I want to switch, managed is too expensive for the few html sites i have. Thanks for the tips guys, I think I will give it a try
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12:15<Michael_>Thanks for your assistance/opinion. Appreciate it. And thanks for the docs link
12:15<mrosabal>Again, have to agree with nbrewer, Linode docs are great and will def get you going
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12:16<Guest721>Hello guys, I am going to migrate from current host to another host. But it asks me to shut down the server before migrating. So, I am wondering what kind of page will show while I am migrating to another host?
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12:17<dwfreed>if you're migrating your Linode between hosts, it'll be down during that time, so no page will display
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12:17<dwfreed>so it might be a good idea to do this when few users are using what you host
12:19<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Setting Hostname <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&p=73195#p73195>
12:22<Guest721>Alright, thank you for the information :)
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13:35<r9>trying to set up an FTP account only ... following the guide (https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu) but not having any luck ... when I try to SSH or FTP using the newly created user I get "packet_write_wait: Connection to XXX.XX.XX port 22: Broken pipe" when trying to SSH & "Error: Connection reset by peer; Error: Could not connect to server" when trying to FTP
13:35<r9>I can successfully FTP & SSH if I use my "normal" account
13:37<dwfreed>SFTP is not FTP
13:38<r9>ok, sorry ... I do understand there's a difference ... the FTP client is using sftp:// when attempting to connect
13:38<dwfreed>look at your SSH server log; for debian/ubuntu, this is /var/log/auth.log; for CentOS/Fedora, /var/log/secure
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13:39<dwfreed>the usual issue is allowing the user write access (or ownership) of the ChrootDirectory
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13:44<r9>ok, got it working ... issue was that I changed the ownership of the users home directory to something other than root & other than that user
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13:44<r9>thank dwfreed! appreciate the insight!
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13:45<millisa>!point dwfreed
13:45<linbot>millisa: Point given to dwfreed. (12)
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13:53<r_r>hi I am trying to find out who to talk to to report abuse of a website
13:53<dwfreed>!abuse
13:53<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
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13:55<r_r>ok and can you look at the site and tell me if it is bad
13:55<dwfreed>!tos
13:55<linbot>https://www.linode.com/tos
13:55<dwfreed>^ read that
13:55<dwfreed>if it violates that, it's abuse
13:56<r_r>http://tlwlsearch.com
13:56<dwfreed>there's nothing illegal about that
13:56<r_r>they have phone number number on they site
13:57<dwfreed>again, nothing illegal about that
13:57<r_r>yes they is
13:58<r_r>if they have my info on they site
13:58<dwfreed>that information is available from many public sources
13:58<dwfreed>you can get similar information from http://whitepages.com/
13:59<r_r>not with my phone number
14:00<r_r>my phone number is not in the phone book
14:00<mrosabal>Chances are they wont take it down without a court order
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14:00<dwfreed>^
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14:01<dwfreed>you're welcome to file a lawsuit against the owners of the site, or ask law enforcement to pursue criminal charges, if any, but without solid evidence they're violating US law, there isn't anything Linode is going to do
14:02<mrosabal>Precisely
14:02<mrosabal>I know it sucks but its just the nature of the beast
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14:02<dwfreed>heh
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14:02<mrosabal>rage quit FTW!
14:02<millisa>they are reporting you both to abuse right now
14:02<dwfreed>rage quit best quit
14:03<mrosabal>lol
14:03<millisa>lots of capitals. it's a seriously nasty fax they are sending.
14:03<dwfreed>oh man, fax
14:03<millisa>linode's got one. it's the best way to get attention.
14:03<millisa>it'll be the only thing that comes in there. it's *got* to be important.
14:04<millisa>note to self: send next support request in by fax just to see if it makes it into the system.
14:04<dwfreed>it's used so infrequently; I'm not even sure if it direct-prints anymore, and if it doesn't, who would get those notifications
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14:05<mrosabal>I think it goes to e-mail now
14:05<millisa>!fax
14:05<millisa>that's disappointing
14:05<dwfreed>before we got the current numbers, I know it direct-printed, but response time was several hours because nobody looked at the printer ever (except tom)
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14:07<mrosabal>Pretty soon support applicants are going to need to pass the bar exam before getting hirted
14:07<mrosabal>*hired
14:08<dwfreed>I'd go to law school if there weren't so many essays
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14:10<dwfreed>lol, time warner's rwhois server is down
14:10<mrosabal>"An Essay on Essays" by dwfreed
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14:15<r9>so, now that I have that isolated user & SFTP account set up ... Apache can't serve a website sitting /home/NEWUSER/public_html because "You don't have permission to access / on this server." ...so I assume I need to grant the Apache service/process access to the users home directory?
14:16<dwfreed>yeah
14:16<dwfreed>for directories, you need "execute" permission to be able to access their contents
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14:17<dwfreed>read access to a directory is only for listing contents
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14:18<r9>got it ... working on it
14:18<rr_>anyone work for lined.com
14:19<rr_>any one works for linode
14:19<relidy>!to rr_ ask
14:19<linbot>rr_: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
14:20<dwfreed>rr_: both of the people who have answered you earlier (myself included) are previous Linode employees; Linode's abuse policy has been pretty constant over the years
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14:21<millisa>lots of short 'r' names today
14:22<dwfreed>millisa: I only see one other one? r_r, rr, and rr_ are all the same person
14:22<millisa>well, r9, too
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14:22<dwfreed>yeah, that's what I meant by the one other one
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16:22<slester>Hi there, anyone else having issues with Linode's DNS? We just switched to Google's in /etc/resolv.conf
16:23<@caker>nothing reported. Which resolvers (or region)?
16:23<slester>#nameserver 84.200.69.80
16:23<slester>#nameserver 84.200.70.40
16:23<slester>sorry for the double lines.
16:24<Peng><Peng> Those are the resolvers for... some German ISP? <Peng> ihgip.net
16:24<slester>I think it's only in Dallas, but I haven't checked others.
16:24<@caker>those aren't us
16:24<slester>oh, oops. let me check.
16:25<Peng>I'm not sure where they are, but the RTT is 215 ms from Dallas
16:26<Peng>(Germany with slightly inefficient routing, i think.)
16:26<slester>oh, those are dns.watch, my bad. I think they were commented out from long ago.
16:26<Peng>Oh.
16:28<slester>sorry for the false alarm :<
16:29<neo^>Linode DNS feature request: Refuse ANY requests. https://blog.cloudflare.com/what-happened-next-the-deprecation-of-any/ draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any-04 standard.
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16:33<Peng>Some people might want them..
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16:36<Nivex>some people want guns and drugs. doesn't make them a good idea.
16:40<@jalter>ANY requests for some, miniature American flags for others
16:42<Peng>Make the DNS servers respond to ANY queries with TXT records drawing a mini American flag?
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16:54<dwfreed>ANY requests are really useful in a variety of situations, primarily administrator debugging
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17:04<Peng>Yes. They're useful for DDoS attacks and aministrator debugging.
17:06<dwfreed>maybe if stupid ISPs wouldn't allow address spoofing, DNS amplification DDoS attacks wouldn't be a problem
17:06<Peng>:D
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20:24<Eugene>I like ANY+AXFR allowed to $ADMIN_HOSTS, and disabled to the rest of the world
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20:25<Eugene>But then again, I store my DNS zone files on Github, so what does it even matter
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20:28<RadioDept>Can I add credit to a linode account then remove the payment method? (so I'll never be accidentally charged in the future)
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20:31<dwfreed>RadioDept: you can't remove the payment method
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20:31<dwfreed>but as long as you have enough credit, the card will not be charged
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20:32<Eugene>I never understood the "so I won't be charged" mentality. You're making a subscription to something, and goign to be using it, are you not expecting to have to pay for it? Do you not have $5 in your account at all times?
20:37<Peng>Maybe if you don't trust the company?
20:38<dwfreed>then why are you giving them your card information in the first place
20:38<dwfreed>I'll be honest, that's one of the things I like about PayPal
20:38*Peng nods
20:38<Peng>I bought a domain using a sketchy registrar recently. Paid with PayPal and turned off auto-renew. :-/
20:39<dwfreed>\o/
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20:41<Eugene>PayPal's rules are theoretically the same as credit card companies. The difference is that PayPal is 99% for the buyer(because that's where the money comes from) instead of for the seller(because that's who pays Visa fees)
20:42<Eugene>And a few dozen clicks is easier than filling out a form and faxing it in for most humans
20:45<Peng>What happens if you try to set a Linode account to a fake credit card number like 4111111111111111?
20:45<Eugene>It probably works fine until they try to run it
20:45<Eugene>So if you carry a balance, no problem?
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21:16<JamesTK>Eugene: wouldn't surprise me if they take out a $1 authorisation
21:17<JamesTK>I mean, initially they took out $5 right?
21:17<JamesTK>~shady~
21:18<rsdehart>JamesTK is an expert on ~shady~
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21:18<JamesTK>:D
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21:21<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Delete all linodes? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14695&p=73196#p73196>
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22:02<@mcintosh>!point mcintosh
22:02<linbot>mcintosh: 1,000,000 points for mcintosh!!!
22:04<FluffyFoxeh>wow
22:04<FluffyFoxeh>!point FloodServ
22:04<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: Point given to floodserv. (1)
22:04<FluffyFoxeh>oops
22:04<FluffyFoxeh>!point FluffyFoxeh
22:04<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
22:04<FluffyFoxeh>:(
22:06<@mcintosh>!point FluffyFoxeh
22:06<linbot>mcintosh: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
22:06<@mcintosh>lol!
22:06<FluffyFoxeh>o.o
22:07<@mcintosh>!point FluffyFoxeh
22:07<linbot>mcintosh: 999,999 points for FluffyFoxeh!!!
22:08<arlen>damn
22:09<FluffyFoxeh>woo
22:09<FluffyFoxeh>:p
22:09<@mquatrani>lol!!
22:09<@mcintosh>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTEhEUoTzqo
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22:15<Zimsky>s/favori/au/
22:15*Zimsky calls the police
22:15<arlen>mcintosh: does this mean you're the drew carey of the channel?
22:15<Zimsky>arlen: mcintosh /is/ drew carey
22:16<arlen>xD
22:18<@mcintosh>i always thought ryan was funniest
22:18<arlen>same
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22:40<Ikaros>Mmm, need to work on my timing in firing up mtr
22:40<dwfreed>or just leave mtr running
22:40<dwfreed>which is what I said the other day after you ragequit
22:40<Ikaros>Ragequit was on other network
22:40<Ikaros>lol
22:41<dwfreed>2017-04-04 22:40:14 -!- Ikaros [ikaros@0001b4e0.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Fuck it...I need some R&R away from this damn mess... [all-quit]]
22:41<dwfreed>looks like a ragequit to me
22:41<Ikaros>Yeah, that was from another network
22:42<dwfreed>no, I copied that from this window
22:42<Ikaros>As in, what it was intended for.
22:42<Ikaros>But I digress
22:42<Ikaros>Think maybe I should run an MTR on the node, maybe like in a screen session, and then run an MTR to it from one of my Linux machines, again in a screen session
22:43<Ikaros>Did manage to get the tail end of the last flap a few min ago though.
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22:46<millisa>make a buncha mtr log files? http://allaboutlinuxos.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-get-mtr-output-on-file.html
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22:54<Ikaros>Hm
22:54<millisa>adjusting it for whatever timeframes make sense. it's not like they'd take up much space. and you could cron a cleanup/zip job
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22:55<Ikaros>Telia must be doing some hella high rate-limiting, I'm only sending every 4 seconds.
22:56<Ikaros>Mmm, probably should just do this from one of the servers its flapping off of
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23:29<riyantose254>any linode rep here?
23:32<arlen>!to riyantose254 ask
23:32<linbot>riyantose254: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
23:33<riyantose254>i'm unable to login and try to reset password but no instruction emiled
23:34<arlen>check your spam, try emailing or calling https://www.linode.com/contact
23:36<riyantose254>nothing in spam and i was email to contact but no response yet
23:36<arlen>they'll respond soon
23:37<riyantose254>thanks arlen
23:37<dwfreed>maybe do 'forgot username'
23:37<riyantose254>i was do that to dwfreed
23:37<dwfreed>then that email address doesn't have any active users associated with it
23:39<riyantose254>last email i received is 17 hours ago, so there is users associated with it
23:40<dwfreed>look at exactly what email address that was sent to
23:40<dwfreed>+labels and such are important
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23:55<Tracy>hi
23:55<Peng>Hello
23:56<Tracy>was looking for some insights before i take the plunge on an account here.
23:57<Tracy>guess theres no staff aorund :) have a nice night
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23:57<nate>We're mostly friendly, peng only bites on full moons, prices are pretty badass, hardware benches really well, and c...
23:57<nate>well fine be that way
23:57<nate>lol
23:58<Peng>Um what
23:58<Peng>How do they know whether staff are around?
23:59<nate>They didn't reply in time, clearly not around
23:59<nate>:P
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23:59<Ikaros>Hah
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23:59<FluffyFoxeh>if you enter an IRC channel and nobody replies in 3 minutes, it means that nobody is there
23:59<FluffyFoxeh>duh.
23:59<Ikaros>Well that's no different than the usual. New people drop in, don't get the concept of IRC, and therefore don't bother waiting for a response.
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