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---Logopened Fri Apr 14 00:00:07 2017
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00:42<@mcintosh>!point mcintosh
00:42<linbot>mcintosh: 1,000,000 points for mcintosh!!!
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00:43<joecool|mobile>!point joecool|mobile
00:43<linbot>joecool|mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
00:43<joecool|mobile>Fuck this bot
00:44<linbot>I'd rather you did not
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00:46<BDIkaros>Wow, that thing got some evil to it
00:48<joecool|mobile>Seems so
00:48<BDIkaros>Of course the whole 'rickroll' thing went out long ago imo
00:53*arlen rolls BDIkaros to Rick
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01:03<dwfreed>fun fact: you get rickrolled by Linode every time they respond to your support ticket
01:03<BDIkaros>Yeap
01:03<BDIkaros>Don't i know that
01:05<BDIkaros>User agent: Never Gonna Give You Up
01:07<dwfreed>the actual mail header is X-Mailer
01:08<dwfreed>but it's the same idea as a browser user agent
01:08<BDIkaros>Yeah my mail client just shows it as User agent
01:08<BDIkaros>(Thunderbird)
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01:22<amir>hi everyone
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01:23<arlen>bye
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01:25<JamesTK>I'm naked!
01:28<dwfreed>TMI
01:31<FluffyFoxeh>congrats
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01:42<JamesTK>dwfreed: :D
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01:56<david>hi there
01:57<david>are there anyone here?
01:57<david>i need to be supported about pricing
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01:57<arlen>what about it?
01:57<arlen>website explains it pretty well
01:58<david>do you have some promotions for paying 5 years
01:58<arlen>no
01:58<david>aw...
01:58<david>no discount?
01:58<arlen>nope
01:58<david>ok thanks :)
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01:58<arlen>welcome
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02:20<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Lish - Improve 'Copying the Disk' over ssh speed <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14714&p=73255#p73255>
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03:29<nana>Hi, there, How much is a fixed-address ip of US? And we do business on ebay needed a fixed-address ip.
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03:34<@agracie>Hi nana, each Linode includes one static public IP. Additional public IPs are $1/mo each.
03:38<nate>they left, though I'm curious what ebay does that requires a fixed address
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03:39<arlen>I'm not ticklish
03:39<arlen>:(
03:39<dcraig>what's an example of a good enough reason to have a 2nd IP?
03:39<arlen>ssl
03:39<dcraig>still?
03:39<arlen>maybe, couple years ago it still was
03:40<dcraig>yeah
03:40<FluffyFoxeh>they'll tell you to use SNI
03:40<arlen>hopefully
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03:40<FluffyFoxeh>and I imagine you'd need a good reason not to (necessary compatibility with old clients perhaps)
03:41<dcraig>I wonder how many people are still using windows xp
03:41<arlen>lots of atms
03:41<dcraig>they don't need to go to my cat blog
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03:47<dcraig>I used to have a checking account at bank of america
03:47<dcraig>but I recently opened an account at a little credit union
03:47<dcraig>the ATM is incredible
03:47<dcraig>straight out of the 90s
03:48<dcraig>(no way it had SNI support)
03:50<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Disable kdump? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14715&p=73256#p73256>
04:08<arlen>I use Simple
04:11<Celti>My credit union actually has better ATMs, or at least comparable ones, than BofA does
04:11<Celti>They also did a hilarious April Fools' mailing offering "Mobile Cash Deposit"
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04:29<arlen>lol
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05:25<felixj>Hello
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05:25<felixj>Need help
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05:51<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Dokku, ufw and ipv6 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14716&p=73257#p73257>
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06:21<tanja84dk>I have a question. I have now copied over the old config and keys for our openvpn server on the reinstalled server. But for some reason it wont start up
06:22<tanja84dk>and there is no errors in syslog
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07:31<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • iPad & VPN <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9307&p=73258#p73258>
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08:54<cerberusph>hi
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09:43<john_>Hello, do linode block unprivilaged ports?
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09:45<Woet>why would they? its a VPS..
09:45<john_>Do know
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09:46<john_>even when the iptable is off I cannot reach some ports
09:46<Celti>Linode does not block any ports. Your local ISP may, however.
09:48<Woet>john_: and how are you testing it?
09:48<john_>It doesn't look like it is on my side. I have a server in the site were I can reach from linode while I can not reach back to linode on the same port
09:51<john_>Never mind
09:52<john_>It was my router blocking out going on that port
09:52<john_>All set now
09:52<john_>thanks guys
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09:55<@jfred>ahh, home routers
09:56<@jfred>predictably awful
09:56<Zimsky>some crafty ISPs like to block tcp25 too
09:56<@jfred>I know comcast did that at my parents' house a few years back
09:56<Zimsky>sue them
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09:56<Celti>I believe Cox still does at this time
09:57<Zimsky>cox sucks. maybe because they're sucking cox all the time
09:57<Celti>Haven't bothered to check 'cause, well, my server takes mail on 587
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09:57<Celti>Cox is better than Comcast, at least
09:57<Zimsky>china unicom is better than comcast
09:58<Celti>And right now I have the choice between Cox, shitty DSL from Qwest, or hilariously overpriced metro ethernet from Megapath
09:58<@jfred>Zimsky: ehh not sure I'd go *that* far
09:58<Zimsky>jfred, how far?
09:58<Zimsky>Ulaanbaatar?
09:58<@jfred>comparing china unicom to comcast haha
09:58<Zimsky>china unicom is great
09:59<@mcintosh>netzero > comcast
09:59<Celti>AOL dialup > comcast
10:00<Zimsky>jfred they peer with Ryugyong-dong
10:00<Zimsky>can + tensioned string > comcast
10:01<Zimsky>http://bgp.he.net/AS131279#_peers
10:02<Zimsky>remember when the contact address for AS131279 was some dude in thailand
10:02<Zimsky>pepperidge farm remembers
10:02<@jfred>Zimsky: I mean to be fair I don't know how good the various ISPs in China are, but no matter what you'll still have to deal with those pesky filters in mainland China, no?
10:03<Zimsky>jfred, unless you pay the chinese gubbermint
10:03<@jfred>heh
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11:13<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:52<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • trying to define a new CNAME <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13967&p=73259#p73259>
12:01<MajObviousman>is that a TOP TIP I spy?
12:08<Cromulent>hi everyone - I have a question to ask - I'm about to employ a web designer to make a forum skin for me for phpBB and he wants admin access to the forum in order to do his work - I can't understand why he needs this - I thought he would develop the skin on his own local computer and then just send me a zip file and I could install it - it seems a bit weird to me that he wants admin access
12:08<Cromulent>am I just being paranoid?
12:09<Cromulent>I really don't want to give anyone else admin access to my forum
12:11<TheFirst>then don't ... push for a package and install directions
12:12<Cromulent>TheFirst: that is what I said but he gave me some cock and bull story about advanced selectors or something?
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12:15<trip>hello, can i report an abuse here?
12:15<bdube>suggest installing the forum software on a virtual machine if he needs admin access to do his work
12:15<bdube>!abuse
12:15<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
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12:21<MajObviousman>Cromulent: he might not be blowing smoke up your ass
12:21<MajObviousman>but at the same time, neither can you give him access to your system
12:21<MajObviousman>so maybe the best thing to do is set up a VM in vagrant or other which duplicates the meaningful bits of your system, e.g. what versions of php, phpbb, et all, as well as all the plugins you're using
12:22<MajObviousman>he can fuck with it to his heart's content that way
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12:22<synfinatic>^^^ +1
12:22<Cromulent>MajObviousman: I've read about installing phpBB styles on the main phpBB website and it says nothing about needing admin access other than clicking a button that says install style which I can do myself - but that seems like a reasonable idea
12:22<MajObviousman>question: does this guy have experience with designinig phpbb templates?
12:23<MajObviousman>I expect he thinks he'll be able to make code changes to suit his designer needs
12:23<MajObviousman>but under no circumstances does he get admin access to your running systems. Period. Separation of concerns.
12:23<MajObviousman>and if that's untenable for him, then fire him and find someone else
12:24<Cromulent>MajObviousman: he says he does but I've been over the admin panel and there is absolutely nothing there that allows you to edit a style in admin panel
12:24<MajObviousman>that you're aware of
12:25<MajObviousman>IIRC you can adjust the templates from the admin panel, yes?
12:25<MajObviousman>that might be what he wants to do
12:25<Cromulent>nope
12:25<Cromulent>you can install and remove and that is about it
12:25*MajObviousman shrugs
12:25<MajObviousman>ok then, no idea why he wants it
12:25<MajObviousman>but the answer is no
12:27<synfinatic>three possibilities in my mind: 1) he's just incompetent and doesn't know, but figures this will make it "easier". 2) malicious intent 3) he knows super secret tricks that nobody else does and will make an amazing theme, but then nobody else will ever be able to help you again with it
12:28<synfinatic>in all seriousness. if he's firm about this request, just have him direct you to the phpbb docs which describe what he needs to do as an admin
12:28<synfinatic>I got $5 which says those docs don't exist or are so basic that you can do it for him
12:33<Cromulent>synfinatic: good call I'll ask him to show me the docs for what he wants to do
12:33<Cromulent>thanks guys
12:34<synfinatic>good luck
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13:18<dwfreed>https://www.nginx.com/blog/nginx-1-12-1-13-released/ new nginx \o/
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13:57<MajObviousman>I kinda don't like how nginx completely drops updating or supporting old stable branches
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13:59<MajObviousman>"This branch is actively developed; new minor releases (1.13.1, 1.13.2, etc.) are made approximately every 4 to 6 weeks ... We generally recommend using the mainline branch." haha, no f*cking way dude
13:59<MajObviousman>I'm not putting your dev branch in prod, are you nuts
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14:23<FluffyFoxeh>these are the smoothest webpage animations I've ever seen http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicMania/
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15:33<Eugene>Wow, that is a nice job.
15:38<MajObviousman>that page made my fans whirr
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16:11<defaultName>When trying to access a database using php, should my servername be "127.0.0.1" or should it be the name I made when creating the server "venus"?
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18:01<DrJ>who needs a firewall?
18:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Why googleleadservices when logging in? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14698&p=73260#p73260>
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21:16<Cromulent>wow one of my websites is running REALLY slow and all the others are fine for some reason
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21:43<dcraig>You have been disconnected.
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21:58<Eugene>/connect cloud to butt
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22:31<Cromulent>I really need to troubleshoot why this site is so damn slow
22:32<Cromulent>no idea how to do it though
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