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00:37<Bin_ZHAO>Hello
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00:40<zifnab>love the time, less than 1 minute
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01:17<Zimsky>love the time, love the rhyme, do the crime on your mother's dime like a mime with a lime
01:18<retro|blah>Hello
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01:21<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Centralized hosting control panel? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14733&p=73290#p73290>
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05:29<ArchNoob>Hi, what logging tools can I use to handle my ssh, nginx, xorg & system wide logs in one place (maybe a db)? Is there an article about this maybe?
05:32<bright>Hi
05:32<bright>Are u here Archnoob
05:33<bright>i need support on how to manage linode
05:34<ArchNoob>I'm here.. and in wiki.archlinux. :P
05:34<ArchNoob>bright: Hi
05:35<ArchNoob>bright: I can help (maybe) I'm also not as experienced with linode.
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05:44<Ankush>Guys, what is the Network limitation on a linode?
05:44<Ankush>I mean, in terms of Mb/second. I am talking about communicating with other linodes via private IPS ofcourse.
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05:46<Peng>The network speed limits are given on https://www.linode.com/pricing . They apply to all traffic, regardless of IP.
05:47<Ankush>Ok. So the network would start to choke when reaching that limit?
05:48<Ankush>Or if that limit is exceeded
05:49<cnf>does that mean speeds are enforced on the VM? because i'd hope not all internal traffic crosses the edge devices :P
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06:32<linbot>New news from forum: /dev/random • Domain names for sale <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13731&p=73291#p73291>
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06:48<pala>Hi guys, what is the "Network Out" and "Network In" speed stated at linode pricing. Are they referring to upload and download speed ?
06:48<Peng>Yes
06:50<pala>Thanks!
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08:23<spexipod>Is it OK to run virtualbox inside the VPSes? I recently did some own testing and discovered that virtualbox inside KVM is actually pretty performant. (at least on my dedi).
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08:25<spexipod>I need the virtualbox functionality to use for vagrant testing, of vagrant scripts that only use virtualbox as a provisioner.
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08:28<Liam_>Hey there guys! I currently have a node project that uses mysql I was looking at your hosting and I was wondering if it's possible to have a mySQL database running alongside a node application on your servers?
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08:29<grawity>as long as you install it
08:29<grawity>Linode provides Linux servers and everything else is up to you
08:29<spexipod>even nested virtualization?
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08:30<Liam_>awkwardly I've never really hosted a node application outside of using heroku / zeit which do everything for you
08:30<grawity>spexipod: KVM doesn't support nested virt; VirtualBox just has its own pile of tricks
08:30<spexipod>so it's ok to run?
08:30<grawity>probably
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09:23<cnf>spexipod: you can use different providers with vagrant, btw
09:23<cnf>and, with some effort, convert boxes in one format to another
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09:29<spexipod>I know, but that effort is sometimes timeconsuming to test
09:29<spexipod>spexipod: slow to develop
09:30<spexipod>spexipod: I'm even struggling with converting some vagrantfiles to the kvm provider
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11:29<Zuenta>sup guys
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11:30<Zuenta>anyone who can help me setup http://www.adultvideoscript.com/product/requirements/
11:30<Zuenta>?
11:30<Zuenta>I am pulling my hairs out
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11:31<Zuenta>anyone?
11:36<jiggawattz>Zuenta: they'll do it for you for $49
11:36<jiggawattz>that's a reasonable setup fee
11:37<Zuenta>well I just bought 2 of their scripts + plugins.... my PP account is empty bankaccount to PP takes 5 working days
11:37<Zuenta>I am already charging my paypal
11:37<Zuenta>but I dont really feel like waiting 5 more days
11:38<Zuenta>How can I use an older CentOS version
11:38<Zuenta>I need 6.8 or lower
11:39<Zuenta>I have this stackscript it worked before but now its malfunctioning
11:39<Zuenta>I dunno why
11:39<Zuenta>0 clue
11:39<Zuenta>think maybe cause of the new CentOS version
11:40<Zuenta>cant select a lower distribution for it then CentOS 6.9
11:41<@nbrewer>Zuenta: 6.8 is the version we offer currently.
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11:42<Zuenta>sorry I meant 6.7
11:42<Zuenta>I need 6.7
11:42<Zuenta>6.8 is to high
11:42<@nbrewer>You could use a custom image: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
11:42<Zuenta>or let me stop acting like I know whats good I lack experience and knowledge
11:42<relidy>I somehow doubt that. 6.8 is basically just 6.7 with security updates.
11:43<@nbrewer>yeah i'm not sure why it would work with one and not the other
11:44<Zuenta>neither am I I run the stackscript
11:44<Zuenta>that I have been using before
11:44<relidy>You've yet to say what your actual issue is, then.
11:44<@nbrewer>Zuenta: could we see the stackscript?
11:44<Zuenta>ofcourse
11:45<relidy>!to Zuenta paste
11:45<linbot>Zuenta: Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
11:45<Zuenta>https://bpaste.net/show/f5c749aaba8d
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11:47<@nbrewer>Zuenta: so it's just pulling from https://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/11274
11:47<waltman>I'd like to update my linode from 16.10 to 17.04. It's complaining that I don't have mirrors in my sources.list, which I figure is OK since linode is a mirror. I take it I should say "yes" to change everything from yakkety to zesty?
11:48<grawity>whether linode is a mirror or not, it isn't used automagically _unless_ sources.list(.d/) says so
11:48<waltman>grawity: Of course, but that wasn't my question.
11:48<Zuenta>I guess so....
11:49<Zuenta>normally I wait 45 min after script is ready then I start adding a domain using ssh with the ./centmin.sh command
11:49<waltman>Let's try asking this a different way. Has mirrors.linode.com been updated for zesty?
11:50<Zuenta>then I point the domain ect to the server
11:50<Zuenta>and I get the standard Nginx default page
11:51<Zuenta>when visiting the server ip and domain name
11:51<grawity>all Ubuntu mirrors have the same content, so yes
11:51<Zuenta>but now I get connection refused
11:52<waltman>Looks like it's been updates, so I'm going ahead.
11:53<Zuenta>seems like it also didnt get edited
11:53<Zuenta>for a year
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11:55<Zuenta>am I even making sense?:P
11:55<@nbrewer>it claims to be compatible with centos 6.8, and just looking through it i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be
11:55<jiggawattz>let me know when you get it setup
11:55<jiggawattz>I'll make sure the website is loading properly etc
11:57<Zuenta>want me to try reinstalling it brewer?
11:58<Zuenta>also can it be login it while the stackscript is busy installing?
11:58<Zuenta>that hurts it
11:58<Zuenta>?
12:00<@nbrewer>i suspect the issue is on L18 of that script: 'mv master master.zip'
12:01<@nbrewer>there's no 'master' file or directory, so i'm not sure why it's doing that especially when the next command unzips master.zip
12:02<jiggawattz>zippity zip
12:03<jiggawattz>I wonder how big adultvideoscript's market is
12:03<jiggawattz>you'd think everybody just goes to xhamster.com , pornhub.com , spankwire.com etc
12:03<jiggawattz>the big 3
12:03<jiggawattz>but I guess there are lots of fetish specialities
12:03<dwfreed>stop
12:03<dwfreed>no
12:03<dwfreed>s/$/w/
12:04<jiggawattz>dwfreed: what?
12:04<dwfreed>that line of conversation is not appropriate
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12:04<jiggawattz>dwfreed: I didn't bring up adultvideoscript
12:04<jiggawattz>didn't start it
12:04<dwfreed>I don't care
12:04<dwfreed>I'm telling you to stop continuing it
12:04<jiggawattz>not sure why you are choosing to determine what is appropriate for this channel
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12:05<jiggawattz>dwfreed: are you a Linode staff member ?
12:06<@mcintosh>jiggawattz: i am
12:06<@mcintosh>stop.
12:06<jiggawattz>just sayin
12:06<jiggawattz>$178 lifetime
12:06<jiggawattz>how the hell do they make money?
12:07<jiggawattz>+ $49 for installation
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12:07<dwfreed>I think that's pretty irrelevant
12:07<dwfreed>heh
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12:07<Peng>Are you some sort of IRC sovereign citizen? "The FBI can't tell me what to do, only my locally elected sheriff! But i won't listen to him either!" <waves flag>
12:07<jiggawattz>Peng: nah they are crying because dwfreed was wrong
12:07<jiggawattz>I don't mind
12:08<react>don't feed the trolls, just ban them and be done with it ;)
12:08<jiggawattz>react: can't ban dwfreed though
12:08<jiggawattz>he's a netop
12:09<Zuenta>ty brewer... hmm any idea how I can fix that
12:09<Zuenta>?
12:10<jiggawattz>who gave you the stack script?
12:10<Zuenta>sorry for the late response
12:10<jiggawattz>you can just edit it yourself
12:10<jiggawattz>did it ship with adultvideoscript ?
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12:10<Zuenta>and yes the adult industry is a HUGE one
12:10<Zuenta>nope
12:10<relidy>Zuenta: It might be worth pointing out LISH, so you can connect and watch what it's doing during install.
12:10<relidy>!to Zuenta lish
12:10<linbot>Zuenta: LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
12:10<dwfreed>nbrewer: fwiw, while that line would trigger an error message, it wouldn't actually break anything
12:10<Zuenta>I did and it froze on centmin.sh
12:11<Zuenta>it summoned the menu
12:11<Zuenta>and stopped there
12:11<jiggawattz>Zuenta: how big is your instance ?
12:11<@nbrewer>dwfreed: yeah, you're right. still not sure what's breaking it just yet
12:11<dwfreed>nbrewer: they just said :)
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12:11<Zuenta>Its the smallest one atm
12:11<Zuenta>5$ a month
12:11<dwfreed>Zuenta: might just be easier to do everything manually, for now
12:12<jiggawattz>is that enough to satisfy its needs ?
12:12<Zuenta>yep
12:12<jiggawattz>hmm
12:12<Zuenta>It is no traffic yet
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12:12<Zuenta>and I have load balancer scripts for extra linodes if it needs help
12:12<Zuenta>bought the plugin for that
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12:13<jiggawattz>hmmm
12:13<Zuenta>but it doesn't matter cause I am unable to see the nginx place holder page
12:14<jiggawattz>does it not depend on Apache ?
12:14<Zuenta>it refuses the incoming connections
12:14<Zuenta>yes
12:14<Zuenta>nginx
12:14<Zuenta>I think
12:14<jiggawattz>on "Server Requirements" it says Apache
12:14<jiggawattz>doesn't mention nginx
12:15<Zuenta>doesn't matter I dont get to the point that I can attempt
12:15<Zuenta>to install
12:15<Zuenta>or upload my files
12:15<Zuenta>actually I can upload just not access them from the web
12:16<Zuenta>I have to access the script after uploading it... I can't it wont show me the default Nginx page either
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12:16<Zuenta>Just refuses my connection
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12:16<Zuenta>if you understand what I mean
12:17<Zuenta>Also I've heard of people run this on nginx
12:17<waltman>Looks like I've successfully updated to 17.04.
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12:18<linbot>all hail mcintosh o/
12:18<Zuenta>gz:)
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12:18<jiggawattz>mcintosh: wb bro
12:19<jiggawattz>Zuenta: is nginx running / listening ?
12:19<jiggawattz>is there a firewall ... ?
12:19<jiggawattz>sorry this might have been asked already
12:22<jiggawattz>dwfreed: what are your thoughts broheme
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12:22<Zuenta>Jigga
12:22<Zuenta>I am reinstalling
12:22<Zuenta>it now
12:22<Zuenta>:)
12:23<jiggawattz>all good then
12:23<jiggawattz>nuke it and do over
12:23<Zuenta>checking after
12:23<Zuenta>ye
12:23<Zuenta>:P
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12:23<Zuenta>thanks for the help! really appreciate it
12:23<jiggawattz>you're welcome
12:24<jiggawattz>mcintosh: we know he just wants to be included that's all
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12:25<jiggawattz>I have nothing against him or any of the other netops
12:25<@mcintosh>then stop talking about it and bothering him
12:26<jiggawattz>well - isn't he the one bothering me though?
12:26<jiggawattz>he seems to inject himself into all this
12:26*jiggawattz doesn't randomly ping him until he shows up
12:26<jiggawattz>then it's not really random
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12:26*jiggawattz dunno
12:27<jiggawattz>but yeah - randomly ping'ing is definitely annoying and not something I do
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12:27<dwfreed>that's why you pinged me 10 minutes after the last time I said something?
12:28<jiggawattz>yeah you showed up
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12:29<jiggawattz>s/you/you had/
12:29<dwfreed>If I have something to say about a person's question, I'll say it; I don't need you pinging me
12:29<jiggawattz>but you wanted to be involved
12:29<dwfreed>I was off doing something else
12:29<jiggawattz>that's why you harangued me earlier
12:29<dwfreed>no, I didn't
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12:30<dwfreed>now drop it, and leave me alone
12:30<jiggawattz>but I'm right
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12:30*jiggawattz shrugs
12:30<jiggawattz>can't fight City Hall
12:30<dwfreed>what part of drop it don't you understand? that means shut up
12:31<jiggawattz>is politeness out of style?
12:31<Nivex>obvious troll is obvious
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12:31<jiggawattz>Nivex: nah I'm not trolling
12:31<Nivex>yeah, you are
12:31<jiggawattz>nah
12:32<jiggawattz>Nivex: Is "shut up" polite discourse ?
12:32*Nivex has added jiggawattz to shitlist (http://boingboing.net/2007/04/19/irc-gets-a-shitlist.html)
12:32<jiggawattz>we can leave it at that
12:32<jiggawattz>c ya
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12:32<MajObviousman>dwfreed: ignore
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12:33<jiggawattz>^^ yeah I agree
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12:38<Nivex>nice
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12:54<Zuenta>guys I launch lish an black screen
12:54<Zuenta>is what I get
12:55<@nbrewer>hit enter
12:58<Zuenta>ok now I can login
12:59<Zuenta>nothing seems to be happening normally I see a firewall message
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13:00<Zuenta>https://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/11274 the echo
13:00<Zuenta>but I see nothing now
13:00<Zuenta>I stillcant connect either maybe wait a bit more?
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13:03<Zuenta>However I tried the lampstack stackscript and I got it working for some kinda reason
13:04<Zuenta>http://45.33.44.188/
13:05<Zuenta>will have to install and configure a gazillian things to have it working optimized
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13:46<react>I don't think I've seen dwfreed ever get mad, until today :D
13:47<react>so when's Linode coming out with a $2.50 instance eh?
13:47<dwfreed>never
13:47<react>:D
13:47<dwfreed>$5 instance is bad enough
13:48<react>1 shared vcpu and 512mb of RAM for $2.50, might work ;)
13:49<dwfreed>expect lots of contention for CPU
13:50<dwfreed>like t1.micro levels
13:51<react>yea but that's be the expected catch of such a ridiculous machine shape
13:51<react>s/that's/that'd/
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13:54<alexf>Question for any git-masters in here. I work on an repo that stages a dev site for local work. It's coded such that a URL that isn't the actual site, localhost, or a set testing domain all get redirected back to the live site. This prevents me from working on my Linode while out enjoying the sunshine with my chromebook. And I like sunshine.
13:54<alexf>My question is: how can I made a change to that code on my Linode's local repo and somehow tell git to ignore it forever, without making any changes in version control that will get pushed back to origin with my other work.
13:54<alexf>s/an/a/
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13:55<FluffyFoxeh>make a new local branch and don't push it?
13:55<FluffyFoxeh>and you can cherry-pick/rebase the rest of your actual changes onto the main branch
13:56<alexf>Which is something I'd have to do with every branch I work on, I assume.
13:56<alexf>I'm hoping for a one-and-done, not have to manually remove it everytime solution.
13:57<FluffyFoxeh>you could also make the change and just never commit it
13:57<FluffyFoxeh>(means you can't do git commit -a anymore though)
13:57<alexf>hmmm.... that conflicts with my lazy, muscle-memory of git commit -am... yea that.
13:58<alexf>I could always make an alias for that command that returns "You can't do that, remember dummy?"
13:58<FluffyFoxeh>lol
13:58<alexf>But in typical #linode fashion, the answer you gave me isn't the one I wanted to hear, so I'm going to keep asking.
13:59<FluffyFoxeh>k :p
13:59<alexf>(srsly tho, ty)
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13:59<alexf>BTW: https://rubberduckdebugging.com/cyberduck/
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14:00<dwfreed>there's a command, it'll eventually bite you in the ass one day, though
14:00<dwfreed>one sec while I find it
14:00<alexf>dwfreed: you're my hero.
14:01<dwfreed>alexf: git update-index --assume-unchanged file
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14:02<alexf>oooOOOooo
14:02<alexf>So that tells git to always assume that file is unchanged, and your warning about ass-bitery is when I finally need to change that file, yes?
14:02<dwfreed>yes
14:02<dwfreed>to undo that state, git update-index --no-assume-unchanged file
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14:03<alexf>Noice. Luckily the files I need to assume-unchanged are partials that are rarely changed, and almost never by me.
14:03<alexf>!to dwfreed points
14:03<dwfreed>you want !point dwfreed
14:04<alexf>!to dwfreed praise
14:04<linbot>dwfreed: (praise [<channel>] [<id>] <who|what> [for <reason>]) -- Praises <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific praise. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
14:04<dwfreed>lol
14:04<alexf>interesting
14:04<dwfreed>I didn't even know about that
14:04<alexf>me either
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14:04<alexf>!point dwfreed
14:04<linbot>alexf: Point given to dwfreed. (13)
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14:07<Celti>Man, that's a bit of git knowledge I could've used back in 2015
14:07*Celti files it away where he will probably never have a chance to use it again
14:13<dwfreed>linbot: praise dwfreed
14:13*linbot dispenses a gold star to dwfreed
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14:23<alexf>linbot: praise dwfreed for figuring out how to praise dwfreed
14:23*linbot dispenses a gold star to dwfreed for figuring out how to praise dwfreed
14:23<dwfreed>heh
14:24<alexf>cool, now I have my dev env running on a Linode, and git is none the wiser
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15:49<ontak>Do you have windows vps?
15:49<dwfreed>!winode
15:49<linbot>It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501
15:49<Nivex>and while it's possible, it's certainly not supported. Depending on your use case you may be happier with AWS or Azure.
15:51<ontak>Ok, thanks
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16:52<Natha>Hello, I have some billing issues. And I can't find anyone to chat with
16:52<dwfreed>if you have billing issues, you need to file a ticket
16:52<dwfreed>!ticket
16:53<linbot>Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here.
16:54<Natha>Thanks for your help. I'll give it a try
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17:28<Guest622>hey ... I just updated some of my Linodes from Ubuntu 14 to 16 LTS
17:29<Guest622>During the upgrade process there was a message at the beginning that said something along the lines of "some of your PPAs aren't compatible with 16.04. After upgrading, run the command XXXX to re-enable them"
17:30<Guest622>I forgot what the XXXX command was, and googling is proving futile. Anyone know offhand?
17:30<relidy>Guest622: There's a good chance that text is in a log file on your system (either an upgrade log or a package manager log).
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17:32<Guest622>ooh good point
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17:34<Guest622>Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
17:34<Guest622>Thanks @relidy !
17:34<relidy>Guest622: Glad that was a useful pointer!
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17:47<vishal_>Hi, can anyone help me?, the apache server is not restarting and throwing the error: Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
17:47<millisa>What do those two commands tell you?
17:50<vishal_>I am not an expert, but it suggest to check these two files apache.service and journalctl -xe
17:51<millisa>That 'systemctl status apache2.service' is the command you run. Run it and it'll give you info.
17:53<vishal_>This is what I got with this command - Apr 19 03:16:50 hydrogen apache2[3530]: * Apr 19 03:16:50 hydrogen apache2[3530]: * The apache2 configtest failed. Apr 19 03:16:50 hydrogen apache2[3530]: Output of config test was: Apr 19 03:16:50 hydrogen apache2[3530]: apache2: Syntax error on line 219 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/tes Apr 19 03:16:50 hydrogen apache2[3530]: Action 'configtest' failed.
17:53<relidy>!paste
17:53<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
17:54<millisa>The bit at the end is probably relevant - it's trying to open a config file that isn't there. Did you recently edit your apache config?
17:55<millisa>you could also try running: apachectl -t
17:55<millisa>it will likely give you a similar message
17:55<vishal_>https://bpaste.net/show/bd53f9ee53da
17:55<vishal_>pasted
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18:00<vishal_>Thanks a lot millisa
18:00<millisa>You find it?
18:00<millisa>Er, sorry, did you find the cause of the error and get it fixed?
18:00<vishal_>Done with the error, I actually changed the name of the .conf site, but it was not changed in the sites-enabled folder
18:01<vishal_>Yes
18:01<millisa>great.
18:01<vishal_>The difference in sites-available and sites-available caused the problem.
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18:02<vishal_>Millisa - Are you aware of Magento fully?
18:03<millisa>I think i've read a few of the docs. I wouldn't consider myself an expert on it and would probably go google for a reference
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18:03<millisa>There's likely other folks in here that know a lot more.
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18:05<vishal_>yes, I am just trying to install it perfectly.
18:05<hardy>hello
18:06<vishal_>Last time login panel in magento was not opening
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18:06<hardy>is it possible to run shoutcast on linux with the same ip bu ´t different ports?
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18:10<vishal_>@hardy can you elaborate?
18:11<vishal_>You can use different ports, but browser take 80 normally
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18:19<hardy>yeshi vishal
18:20<hardy>this is the current set up
18:20<hardy>adminpassword=**** password=***** requirestreamconfigs=1 streamadminpassword_1=*** streamid_1=1 streampassword_1=peterPapenTe streampath_1=http://*****1:8000 logfile=logs/sc_serv.log w3clog=logs/sc_w3c.log banfile=control/sc_serv.ban ripfile=control/sc_serv.rip streamauthhash_1=D4Xc9GR1**** MaxUser=10000 PortBase=8080
18:20<hardy>this is streaming 128kbit.
18:21<hardy>Now on the same server, we want to stream 48kbits too
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18:26<vishal_>I think it can be tried, don't know about the work reliability- You can use a separate proxy and filter out request coming out for 128 and pass it on the back server.
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18:27<vishal_>Like nginx and apache runs simultaneously, apache handles php, nginx handles static stuff
18:28<hardy>so it is not simple to rename streamid_1 to streamid_2 ?
18:33<vishal_>not have much experience with shoutcast- sorry
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19:22<nate>vishal_: Any particular reason you're using apache for PHP...? nginx can handle it just as much, if not far more efficiently as well
19:23*nate has admittedly not played with newer apache versions really, but hasn't heard of them being all that improved for stuff like cgi/fcgi
19:30<zifnab>i can possibly see an argument for mod_php
19:30<zifnab>runs in process? idk
19:31<zifnab>i can see the "less context switches" argument
19:31<vishal_>Ass far as I know Apache is fast in handling php request, nginx is fast in static content, using both can make things fast
19:31<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues between London and Singapore <https://status.linode.com/incidents/g1m3psl0j1x1>
19:31<zifnab>but, i still don't know if thats a valid argument :P
19:32<vishal_>I know what I found in many articles on net
19:33<millisa>no love for php-fpm?
19:33<zifnab>i would assume there's *slightly* more overhead in nginx land, because you're writing to a unix socket/port thats being read from php-fpm, processed, and passed back
19:34<nate>zifnab: mod_php is never an argument :P
19:34<nate>also php-fpm doesn't have to be over a socket, you can do it as TCP
19:34<zifnab>but, going back to "let the kernel task scheduler do its job", "php is inefficient anyways", "some other argument here"
19:34<zifnab>nate: still a socket :P
19:34<nate>semantics
19:34<nate>lol
19:34<nate>what exactly are they trying to do?
19:34*zifnab isn't doing anything
19:34<nate>PHP is hardly inefficient for web oriented stuff.
19:34<nate>I said they :P
19:35<nate>I assumed someone else was talking about it, I just caught the top of my buffer w/ apache and PHP
19:35<nate>lol
19:47<arooni>what should i do if my ssh connection is looking janky (i'm typing but not seeing any response). same with mosh
19:48<dwfreed>zifnab: mod_php is not threadsafe, so apache has to run in prefork mode; this means your entire webserver is more resource intensive, rather than just your app server
19:48<arooni>theres that command to test packet loss orrrr something
19:48<@mcintosh>!mtr
19:48<linbot>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/diagnosing-network-issues-with-mtr
19:48<zifnab>dwfreed: ah, TIL
19:48<dwfreed>arooni: does your typing work, even if you can't see it?
19:48<zifnab>dwfreed: i avoid apache anyways, but good to know
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19:49<arooni>dwfreed: typing doesnt work; system load via tmux is only 0.44
19:49<dwfreed>Ctrl+q
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19:52<arooni>if i see 100% packet lost on jumps 8 and 9 coming from linode to my ip
19:52<arooni>is that a problem?
19:52<arooni>(via mtr)
19:52<dwfreed>do you see packet loss after those hops?
19:52<dwfreed>if not, no
19:53<dwfreed>also, if tmux is updating the load average, then packet loss is not your problem
19:53<arooni>well when you say do i see packet loss after those hops; doesnt 100% loss indicate something is up
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19:53<arooni>i can pastebin results
19:53<dwfreed>arooni: do you see packet loss at hop 10?
19:53<dwfreed>if not, then it's not a problem
19:54<arooni>at hop 10 69.235.102.22 no
19:54<arooni>i wonder if this could be a router issue
19:54<dwfreed>no, it isn't
19:54<dwfreed>2017-04-18 23:53:28 < dwfreed> also, if tmux is updating the load average, then packet loss is not your problem
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19:55<dwfreed>mosh is a rather chatty protocol, and will tell you in the top line of the window if it's not heard anything in a while
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20:25<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • [TOP TIP] firewalld and ipset (country blacklist) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14708&p=73243#p73243>
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20:28<arlen>[TOP TIP] gonna begin all my irc text with [TOP TIP]
20:28<millisa>[TOP TIP] - block all countries to reduce network traffic!
20:29<arlen>[TOP TIP] disable eth0 - now you're hack proof
20:35<millisa>[BOTTOM TIP] Peanut butter in your coffee - Get that Beautiful Oily Sheen!
20:38<arlen>hmm
20:43<spexipod>virtualbox in my linonde is it ok? Is it ok to nest some virtualization?
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20:49<@mquatrani>spexipod: Yes, you can run it, but, we can't make any guarantees on performance and it is not officially supported.
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20:51<millisa>old hoopycat post on virtualbox: https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7714
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21:13<Kevin>Hi there
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21:14<millisa>Greetings
21:14<Guest642>I am trying to create account but my email can't be accepted "kevin@sent.com"
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21:15<Guest642>It says invalid email
21:15<Guest642>Presently I am on digitalocean server and for next development I want to try Linode
21:16<@mquatrani>!point Guest642
21:16<linbot>mquatrani: Point given to guest642. (1)
21:17<@caker>apparently we have sent.com on the ban list because of abuse. Can you use a different email?
21:17<Guest642>It there any email rules that avoids certain domains?
21:18<Guest642>Ok I'll try with gmail and see, thankyou
21:18<@caker>thanks - sorry
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23:05<millisa>Anyone here have an opinion on graylog? https://www.graylog.org/ (positive or negative?)
23:19<Cromulent|2>hmm I seem to be using a hell of a lot of bandwidth - I've used 1.5GBs so far this month which is loads compared to what I normally use
23:20<Cromulent|2>transfer I mean
23:20<dwfreed>> hell of a lot of bandwidth
23:20<dwfreed>> 1.5 GB
23:21<dwfreed>one of these things is not like the other
23:21<Cromulent|2>it is a hell of a lot for me - I only run tiny sites
23:22<dwfreed>millisa: it's Java
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23:49<FluffyFoxeh>I wonder how much transfer I'd use if I turned off torrents
23:51<FluffyFoxeh>so far on my linode it's 19GB in, 184GB out
23:53<synfinatic>clearly you need to torrent more
23:53<FluffyFoxeh>wait till the next Linux mint is released
23:54<FluffyFoxeh>:p
23:55<synfinatic>i'm 209/247GB. apparently i like balance. should be higher though. not getting my $$$'s worth
23:55<dwfreed>I will be at 0
23:55<dwfreed>at the end of the month
23:56<synfinatic>everyone is equal come midnight on the 1st
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