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00:00<zifnab>yeah
00:00<sparky>new to linode and all that. how come my brand new linode, thats powered on in resuce mode (installing BSD) wont let me connect via lish?
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00:01<Peng>What happens?
00:02<sparky>im told that its either not powered on or has another session open
00:04<dwfreed>run the 'status' command from lish
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00:06<sparky>well... looks like it was incomplete directions on the site... have to use init as finnix and mount the recovery iso on a new dev and set that iso as boot
00:06<sparky>thank you for the assitance though
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00:11<dwfreed>internat: sorry about that, unfortunate timing
00:12<internat>what did i do now?
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00:13<dwfreed>during certain types of spambot attacks, an anti-spam measure is activated that has a high risk of false positives
00:13<dwfreed>you happened to connect while the measure was active
00:13<internat>oh? i didnt even notice anything
00:14<internat>oh hey, i was banned lol. client auto reconnected and i didnt even see it
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00:14<dwfreed>internat: heh
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00:15<internat>all good :D
00:15<dwfreed>\o/
00:15<internat>every good admin knows, false positives happen.
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01:30<veecious>ur a wizard harry potter
01:41<Zimsky>ur a fgt harry
01:44<zifnab>arlen: uptimerobot doesn't honor dns ttls :/
01:44<arlen>:(
01:44<zifnab>i'm putting in a support request
01:44<zifnab>!dig review.lineageos.org
01:44<linbot>zifnab: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: review.lineageos.org. 300 IN A 192.99.39.68 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION
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01:45<zifnab>its got a 5min ttl, uptimerobot is the only thing still hitting it
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01:46<arlen>weird
01:52<zifnab>and has been for almost an hour
01:52<zifnab>yeah, weird
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02:01*Zimsky hits zifnab
02:02<Zimsky>!dig a trench
02:02<linbot>Zimsky: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 84370 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2017042300 1800 900 604800 86400
02:02<zifnab>!dig ilikebigbut.ts
02:02<linbot>zifnab: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 84356 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2017042300 1800 900 604800 86400
02:02<zifnab>!dig where.are.all.the.sexypenguins.at
02:02<linbot>zifnab: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION sexypenguins.at. 3600 IN SOA elsa.ns.cloudflare.com. dns.cloudflare.com. 2024175041 10000 2400 604800 3600
02:02<Zimsky>lol
02:02<Zimsky>!dig a uz
02:02<linbot>Zimsky: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 84323 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2017042300 1800 900 604800 86400
02:03<Zimsky>what
02:03<Zimsky>!dig uz
02:03<linbot>Zimsky: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: uz. 14400 IN A 91.212.89.8 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION uz. 14400 IN NS ns3.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns4.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns6.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns2.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns7.uz. uz. 14400 IN NS ns5.uz.
02:03<Zimsky>there we go
02:03<zifnab>Zimsky: i'm actually debating setting up a znc again (between me and irccloud) so i can use that hostmask...
02:03<Zimsky>zifnab: what about sexypengiuns
02:03<zifnab>fuck you
02:03<zifnab>lol
02:03<Zimsky>:D
02:03<zifnab>i forgot about that
02:04<zifnab>i didn't renew it, obviously
02:04<zifnab>*that* was a fun ticket with gandi
02:04<Zimsky>aw it's not reg'd any more
02:04<zifnab>"We can't do refunds on .at. Nice domain though!"
02:04<zifnab>i think it had a question mark at the end
02:05<Zimsky>I should reg it and just host the conversation of your realisation when I pointed it out
02:06<zifnab>i mean, its $30/yr
02:06<zifnab>feel free
02:06<Zimsky>I could go a few days without food
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02:33<FluffyFoxeh>money that tight eh?
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02:42<veecious>im going to make a dating website for good looking people
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02:42<veecious>none of you can join
02:43<dwfreed>how do you know we aren't good looking
02:43<veecious>good looking people probably don't hang out in irc chat rooms
02:44<dwfreed>I dunno, caker's pretty good looking, and he hangs out in here
02:44<veecious>they're probably doing whatever it is good looking people are doing on saturday night
02:45<veecious>probably other good looking people
02:45<veecious>which is why the website will be a huge success
02:46<veecious>now i just need coders will are willing to work for the future promise of money
02:46<dwfreed>that's the definition of a startup
02:47*dwfreed ducks
02:49<veecious>going to go scout the talent at craigslist
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03:35<FluffyFoxeh>why go outside on a Saturday night when you can... not go outside
03:36<FluffyFoxeh>I was going to go outside a few minutes ago actually. I'm out of bread and need more. But I decided to crawl into bed instead :p
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04:10<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • advanced Art Management <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14748&p=73341#p73341>
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04:18<FluffyFoxeh>Art management?
04:19<dwfreed>gotta manage that art collection
04:20<FluffyFoxeh>tags and everything
04:20<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • [TOP TIP] Multitail (live multi-file log display) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14709&p=73282#p73282>
04:21<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh, dwfreed, art can actually be really difficult to manage
04:21<dwfreed>aw, soh's not in here
04:21<dwfreed>I was going to tell him to go to bed
04:21<Zimsky>JamesTK: PIZZA
04:21<FluffyFoxeh>Sun Apr 23 04:21:55 EDT 2017
04:22<FluffyFoxeh>this is what happens when I sleep in too much
04:22<FluffyFoxeh>the next day I have to sleep in more
04:22<FluffyFoxeh>and repeat
04:22<Zimsky>Sun Apr 23 16:22:29 CST 2017
04:22<Zimsky>hammer time
04:23<FluffyFoxeh>where's CST again
04:23<FluffyFoxeh>very far I'm sure
04:23<dcraig>chicago
04:23<FluffyFoxeh>no way it's 16:22 there
04:24<FluffyFoxeh>:p
04:24<Zimsky>lol dcraig
04:24<dwfreed>probably China
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04:24<dcraig>oh whoops :D
04:24<dwfreed>jup
04:24<dwfreed>4:24 PM
04:24<dwfreed>Sunday, April 23, 2017 (GMT+8)
04:24<dwfreed>Time in Beijing, China
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04:24<AV>what to do if I reach 10,000 concurrent connection limit
04:25<AV>on node balancer
04:25<dwfreed>first I'd probably figure out why you're hitting the limit
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04:25<dwfreed>10,000 *concurrent* connections is a lot
04:25<Zimsky>not if you're google
04:25<AV>incase if reach the limit whats the option
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04:26<Zimsky>get another linode
04:26<Zimsky>or reduce your connections
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04:26<dcraig>are you google?
04:26<Zimsky>yes dcraig
04:26<dwfreed>AV: you can add another nodebalancer and use a DNS round robin to balance them
04:26<dwfreed>it won't be an even 50/50 split, but it'll be close
04:26<AV>we are mqtt server which will lot of connections constantly
04:27<FluffyFoxeh>I googled mqtt and nope'd out of there
04:27<dwfreed>you probably don't even need a load balancer for that
04:27<dwfreed>just use DNS round robins directly
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04:28<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: why
04:29<FluffyFoxeh>buzzwords everywhere
04:29<FluffyFoxeh>:p
04:29<Zimsky>you're a buzzword
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04:29<FluffyFoxeh>no u
04:30<Zimsky>that's impossible. I don't eat rice
04:30<FluffyFoxeh>I ate rice
04:30<FluffyFoxeh>I like rice
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04:31<Zimsky>that's racist
04:31<Zimsky>that's ray charles
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04:33<AV>dns round robin will that be done linode dns manager
04:40<dwfreed>yes
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05:51<dcraig>it's 3 am in Anytown, USA. do you know where your linodes are?
05:52<Peng>that depends, are they Xen?
05:53<dcraig>some are, some aren't
05:54<rsdehart>some are actually openvz "where the fuck did you get those linodes"
05:55*rsdehart blames dcraig
05:55<dcraig>what was before Xen?
05:56<rsdehart>not openvz. Not immediately before, for sure
05:56<dcraig>UML!
05:56*rsdehart tries to rem. yes
05:56<dcraig>what will be after KVM?
05:56<Peng>Xen!
05:56<rsdehart>>.>
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05:58<rsdehart>here's a word of encouragement: http://38.media.tumblr.com/30cee40c16752622275968ebf32c7ca0/tumblr_n8opabICI21rq0q4yo1_500.jpg
05:58<rsdehart>well, multiple words, if we want to be technical
05:59<dcraig>I think "word" can refer to a collection of words
05:59<dcraig>microsoft word lets you type multiple words
05:59<dcraig>"word is bond"
05:59<rsdehart>this is true
06:00<rsdehart>I was just trying to pre-empt anyone saying "that was more than one word"
06:00<dcraig>they should be fish tickled
06:00<rsdehart>yes
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07:36<hojuruku>I left LINODE because the customer service manager is a gay scout master and a PEDOPHILE and that story is later going up on victimsofgaybullying.com - but in the meantime you might want to see this.
07:36<hojuruku>http://vid.me/ozzieslovepedos - OR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5z_8Lh5UM0 Exposes how Australian government leaders LOVE THE RELIGION OF GAY BABY FUCKING AND BOY MURDER OTOAustralia.org.au - video brought to you by 911scholars.org Jim Fetzer PhD who's a doctorate/professor in a IT field among others.
07:37<hojuruku>Russian hosting in St Petersberg is great. KVM & Fast! https://veesp.com/en/
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07:45<Waleed>Hi all
07:45<scotti>'allo
07:45<Waleed>any helpdesk from #linode here ?
07:46<ponas>this is just the community, the ones with @ in front are employees
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07:47<Waleed>I can't find any helpdesk chat app I can reach them throught it !!
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07:50<Megaf>I wonder if I can use rsync to sync a FTP directory
07:51<Megaf>csync will do
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08:01<hojuruku>Is linode still freezing guests linodes and dumping their memory doing illegal search and seizures? I caught linode admins doing what they do here to steal bitcoins, and I have a dossier on it.
08:01<hojuruku>https://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/bitcoins-worth-228000-stolen-from-customers-of-hacked-webhost/
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08:21<JamesTK>:/
08:22<CornishPasty>wtf is going on here?
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08:33<Zimsky>CornishPasty: illegal searching, that's what
08:34<Zimsky>and seizures
08:34<CornishPasty>Right...
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08:35<Zimsky>CornishPasty: mcintosh is hiding in the bushes outside your window
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08:35<CornishPasty>Oh no!
08:35<Zimsky>Oh yes!
08:35<CornishPasty>At least it's not the kool aid guy!
08:36<Zimsky>mcintosh is the kool aid guy
08:36<Zimsky>checkmate
08:36<CornishPasty>Oh shiiii-
08:38<hojuruku>I have caught lindoe freezing guests memory deliberatly
08:38<hojuruku>they do that toe extract the kernel keyring and turn of any encryption there may be - to go after bitcoins. The excuse for them letting it happen is lame.
08:39<hojuruku>I knew the customer service manager was a hard core faggot who tweets about being a gay scoutmaster, so i let them know i was anti-gay
08:39<hojuruku>and set a trap with anough logging to detect a guest freeze
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08:39<hojuruku>i got that evidence and i'll be releasing it soon. They terminated my account I had for 12 years since the UML days for exposing those faggots crimes.
08:39<Zuenta>SUP GUYS
08:40<hojuruku>http://johnsunol.blogspot.com/2017/04/last-vid-jim-fetzer-phd-luke-mckee.html
08:40<Zuenta>got a question I have ubuntu 12.04 I installe MEncoder
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08:40<hojuruku>Jim Fetzer PhD and I talk about the faggot pedophile mafia in Australia. Just to let you know I have some cred. Linode steals bitcoins and the admins are a bunch of faggots.
08:40<Zuenta>but I cant seem to get MEncoder FAAC Support
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08:41<Peng>Zuenta: You realize Ubuntu 12.04 goes EOL five days from now
08:41<Zuenta>even if I install it...
08:41<Zuenta>What?
08:41<Zuenta>is EOL?:P
08:41<Zuenta>lol
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08:42<Peng>The version of Ubuntu from 4 years 51 weeks and 2 says ago is supported for 5 years, yes.
08:42<Zuenta>I fought so har to install http://www.adultvideoscript.com/product/requirements/
08:42<Zuenta>I got everything to work....
08:42<Zuenta>Just the faac support
08:42<Zuenta>for conversion
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08:42<Peng>If you misspelled 14.04 or 16.04, never mind!
08:42<Zuenta>no
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08:42<Zuenta> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
08:42<Zuenta>is what I have
08:43<Zuenta>so I have to start over?
08:43<Zuenta>And why no faac support...
08:43<Zuenta>I am going to pull my hairs out....
08:43<Zuenta>Peng?
08:44<Zuenta>.... anyone knows why FAAC support isnt working for mencoder
08:44<Zuenta>ubuntu 12.04
08:44<Peng>You don't have to start over, but you should upgrade. Soon.
08:45<Peng>It's possible whatever issues you're having would be less of an issue on a newer OS, but i have no idea about that.
08:45<Zuenta>How do I upgrade?
08:45<Zuenta>without destroying my webserver
08:45<Zuenta>I have running now
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08:45<Zuenta>for the script
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08:47<Peng>Upgrading Ubuntu has a chance of going awry and requiring you revert to backups and start over or something.
08:47<Peng>Many people prefer to start over from a fresh install of the new version, and copy over the stuff.
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08:47<Ravi>hi
08:47<Peng>https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
08:47<Peng>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04
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08:48<Ravi>hello
08:48<Peng>Although that doc is for 14.04 -> 16.04, not starting from 12.04.
08:48<Peng>Hi.
08:48<Peng>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-lts
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08:52<Zuenta>error
08:52<Zuenta>after error
08:52<Zuenta>not workin
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08:53<Zuenta>Third party sources disabled Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
08:53<Zuenta>Invalid package information After updating your package information, the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' could not be located. This may be because you have no official mirrors listed in your software sources, or because of excessive load on the mirror you are using. See /etc/apt/sources.list for the current list of configured software sources. In the case of an overloaded mirror, you may want to try the upgrade again later.
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09:15<hojuruku>Zuenta, I use avconv in sabayon linux I used to run on my linode before the faggot customer service manager say my blog and say those who don't support a demographic that's 30 times more likley according to the CDC to fuck kids getting them like he does as a gay scoutmaster.
09:15<hojuruku>ffmpeg / libav (faggot fork) is what you want to use these days
09:16<hojuruku>I use MP4Box aka the gpac package for splitting that does a better job than ffmpeg's copy command though
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10:46<Alex_>Hello, What is the best solution for a video streaming website ?
10:52<Zimsky>maybe nginx rtmp?
10:53<Zimsky>never done it myself, but having recently looked around at options, I found that was the dominating solution
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11:30<Zuenta>zimsky any stackscripts for that solution
11:31<Zuenta>linux isnt exactly my strongest point
11:31<Zimsky>for what solution
11:31<Zimsky>you can look through the stackscript library
11:32<Zuenta>videostreaming an hosting http://www.adultvideoscript.com/product/requirements/
11:32<Zuenta>I think it can run on nginx also
11:32<Zimsky>oh, that I don't care about
11:33<Zimsky>just follow their shit
11:33<Zuenta>Yes but you know a stackscript that can host it?
11:33<Zuenta>it can also run on nginx
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11:33<Zimsky>https://www.linode.com/stackscripts
11:33<Zimsky>have a search
11:34<Zuenta>Or you know how to get Faac support for Mencoder work for ubuntu 12.04
11:34<Zuenta>Cause I cant get it to work for the mobile video conversion
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11:35<Zimsky>ik weet het niet
11:35<Zuenta>ok mn
11:35<Cromulent>Zuenta: 12.04 is pretty old
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11:36<Zuenta>zoek een oplossing...
11:36<Zuenta>yes
11:36<Zuenta>true
11:36<Cromulent>I thought they only supported LTS releases for 5 years which means that it has expired now
11:36<Zuenta>I tried to upgrade for errors.....
11:36<Zuenta> Invalid package information After updating your package information, the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' could not be located. This may be because you have no official mirrors listed in your software sources, or because of excessive load on the mirror you are using. See /etc/apt/sources.list for the current list of configured software sources. In the case of an overloaded mirror, you may want to try the upgrade again later.
11:36<Zimsky>Cromulent: so that old box in the corner of my room running 10.10 is not good?
11:37<Zimsky>it has an uptime of 4 years
11:37<Cromulent>heh
11:37<Zuenta>What are you running on that old box?:P
11:37<Zuenta>if I may ask
11:37<Zuenta>haha
11:37<Zimsky>it would have been longer if my cat hadn't tripped over it
11:38<Zimsky>nothing, it's just there to see if it'll last
11:38<Cromulent>you've got a long way to go to beat some FreeBSD systems
11:38<Zuenta>lol
11:38<Zimsky>I use fbsd on everything else now
11:39<Zuenta>What is a FreeBSD
11:40<Cromulent>just another unix like operating system based on a BSD kernel
11:40<Zuenta>ok hmm
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12:13<Zimsky>s/noth/ bett/
12:16<Zimsky>s/a (?=BSD)/the /
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13:14<skyfaller>hey folks, I want to save some rules to iptables using Ansible, but for some reason the commands I successfully use on the command line won't work with the Ansible command module. Can y'all take a look?
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13:15<skyfaller>or should I ask in the Ansible channel?
13:15<zifnab>arlen: I can no longer recommend uptime robot. "We use a DNS caching system and whitelist "dynamic DNS provider's domains" to not cache them. "
13:16<Peng>Wait what
13:16<zifnab>They do not honor TTL on dns
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13:16<newdriv>Hi guys need some help with my account
13:17<zifnab>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tHGj0KJf/Screenshot_20170423-101650.png
13:17<zifnab>Peng: ^^
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13:17<Peng>They fudge TTLs!?
13:18<newdriv>can i duplicate my disk from one linode to another?
13:18<Peng>Omg, fire them from the Internet.
13:18<Peng>newdriv: Yeah, there's a button for it.
13:18<zifnab>Yeah. They're dead to me.
13:18<Zimsky>zifnab: clean up your fucking status icons
13:18<@caker>newdriv: yes - Clone tab
13:18<zifnab>Zimsky: I just woke up. Working on it.
13:19<Zimsky>I've the benefit of waking up to a clear screen every second day
13:20<Peng>There are no icons when the battery is drained
13:20<zifnab>Ha
13:20<zifnab>Anyways, holy shit
13:20<zifnab>Why the fuck does someone not honor dns TTL
13:21<zifnab>It's there for a reason
13:21<Ikaros>Not respecting the standard, are they?
13:21<zifnab>DNS queries are free
13:22<zifnab>Makes me assume they're u trustable garbage
13:22<Ikaros>Eh. I just roll my own solution.
13:22<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • ssh key pair authentication - from 2 computer? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14751&p=73347#p73347>
13:22<newdriv>@caker thanks
13:23<zifnab>Ikaros: it's been on my to-do list for a while. This was a temp "I need a thing"
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13:24<Ikaros>I see.
13:24<Zimsky>Ikaros: rolling a good solution could be expensive depending how
13:25<tmus>howcome a reboot from inside a linode results in a lassie initiated boot? the linode shouldn't really go down during a reboot?
13:25<Zimsky>sure it does
13:25<Peng>Rebooting is complicated and arcane
13:25<Peng>:P
13:25<Zimsky>that's why it's a 'reboot'
13:26<csnxs>lassie doesn't know made it reboot from within the linode, thats why
13:26<Ikaros>tmus: Because their system doesn't know about it. It assumes it died unexpectedly because the shutdown/reboot wasn't initiated from the manager.
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13:27<tmus>Ikaros, so it monitors my system by other means than kvm? because normally a reboot should keep the entire VM intact on the hypervisor throughout the reboot
13:27<Peng>tmus: note that Linode hasn't always used KVM
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13:28<Zimsky>they just hide rpis inside the blades
13:28<Zimsky>no one notices the difference
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13:29<tmus>Peng, right... i does now, though - perhaps even exclusively? I'm just trying to wrap my head around how it all fits together.
13:29<Peng>there are still some Xen boxes left
13:29<Zimsky>I hope it all fits together concavely
13:30<Zimsky>otherwise you're going to have some trouble wrapping your head around it
13:30<Zimsky>that was terrible
13:31<csnxs>¬_¬
13:32<tmus>hehe
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13:34<zifnab>Lassie uses watchdog right?
13:34<zifnab>Somehow
13:34<tmus>So is there a way to dial down the sensitivity of lassie? Allow say 20 seconds to pass before thinking a linode has died? That should be enough to allow a reboot to complete but not enough that it would ever be a problem if the system actually died...
13:36<@caker>it already waits by the nature of it only making a pass through checking states every 45 seconds or so
13:36<tmus>caker, do you know what it checks and/or how?
13:36<@caker>yes
13:37<tmus>yes? :)
13:37<@caker>In both Xen or KVM, the behavior of reboot is configurable. It's a no-win situation, since we want reboots to happen "for real" to pick up config changes (disk mappings, and long ago IP changes too, but no longer)
13:37<@caker>the soft reboot way, this would not happen.
13:38<@caker>Configuring reboots to exit and letting Lassie handle it = expected behavior for most people (the machine actually reboots)
13:38<@caker>however, the side effect of this is we can't distinguish between a reboot and a shutdown
13:39<@caker>so: a kernel crash, a reboot, and a shutdown all result in Lassie issuing a boot job (when Lassie is enabled - which is desired, I'd think)
13:40<@caker>if you want to actually shut down, one needs to do by issuing a shutdown job on our end -- which you can do via the Linode Manager, the API, or even the Lish command line (my favorite way)
13:40<veecious>yea but the real question is why did they call it lassie
13:40<tmus>caker, right - i just disabled lassie and issued a reboot - surely enough, my linode went poweroff. So I see your point.
13:40<@caker>You can set up ssh keys into Lish, and alias reboot and/or shutdown to issue the proper Lish command: "ssh username@lish linode1235 shutdown"
13:41<trippeh>I always reboot from the lish console or web ui, waiting for lassie takes too long ;)
13:41<@caker>https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=2897 <-- Lassie - Linode Autonomous System Shutdown Intelligent rEbooter
13:41<@caker>:>
13:42<veecious>that makes sense
13:43<veecious>i thought it was named after the dog for some weird reason
13:43<@caker>it's a watchdog :)
13:44<veecious>clever
13:44<tmus>hehe
13:45<tmus>how are the linodes configured to do a shutdown rather than a reboot? can it be reverted?
13:46<tmus>i do most of my stuff in my vm cli and when rebooting, I'd rather have a reboot than a shutdown and a wait for lassie... if possible
13:47<@caker>Set up Lish ssh keys, alias reboot="ssh username@lish-dallas.linode.com linode1235 reboot" <-- done
13:48<@caker>or skip keys and just auth when you run it
13:48<@caker>This is the proper solution.
13:49<tmus>certainly a possibility, but simple stuff like "yum -y update && reboot" then requires additional connections to other systems to handle a simple reboot
13:49<@caker>Keep Lassie enabled, and you will get a reboot
13:49<tmus>ok
13:53<veecious>do browsers distinguish between mobile and desktop user sessions?
13:55<@caker>they probably provide distinct user agents, if that's what you mean
13:56<@caker>this is how websites know to show you the nerfed version or the full version (annoyingly)
13:56<veecious>indeed
13:57<veecious>i am having an issue where user sessions are destroyed when switching between mobile and desktop
13:57<@caker>to what site? and how do you switch to mobile when using a desktop?
13:58<veecious>you use chrome's toogle device toolbar feature setting it to mobile viewport and refresh the page
13:59<@caker>gotcha
13:59<veecious>i guess it stores the browser agent somewhere in the session
14:00<@caker>if you're asking about manager.linode.com, it should not make any difference. But if your source IP is changing as well, that will likely do it.
14:00<@caker>(this is fixed in the upcoming new manager, fwiw)
14:01<veecious>Na it's my own site and the IP doesn't change
14:02<veecious>it's really a rare case that it happens but sigh people are picky
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14:19<tmus>caker, so with lassie, a reboot that "normally" takes 15 seconds to complete now takes 60... is the reboot bios signal simply disabled on your hypervisor or can the behavior (poweroff on reboot) be changed if I wanted to? (regardless of how silly it might seem to everyone else)
14:20<tmus>also - if I wanted to reboot more than 5 times in a 15 minute window, it seems I need to use multiple control-paths (manager/lish and my vm ssh session)
14:21<@caker>it is not end-user configurable, no. Use the Linode Manager, API, or Lish to issue the boot/shutdown jobs.
14:21<tmus>caker, okay, thanks
14:23<@caker>Lish's command prompt is pretty darn useful ... If I'm working on stuff that requires machine control, I will typically leave either Lish-via-web or a Lish-via-ssh window open, and control-a d to detach and then will issue jobs via the Lish command line
14:23<@caker>or you can do the alias / ssh <lish> <linode> <command> trick
14:28<tmus>caker, the thing is - to me (which is an important distinction - I accept that this may make perfect sense for everybody else) - this seems unnecessarily bothersome for a simple reboot. I can think of a thousand reasons why I'd simply want to reboot my server and where a normal reboot would do the trick perfectly. There should be no need for me to do anything else that reboot the vm from the vm itself IMHO.
14:29<tmus>in case of a shutdown or a hang, the lassie way makes total sense - only not for reboot in my mind
14:29<@caker>We can't distinguish between a reboot and a shutdown and a kernel exit. There is no mechanism for this.
14:30<@caker>The chaos of unintended behavior of making this configurable is not an option for us.
14:31<@caker>If we made it just shut down every time, we'd have the opposite problem ("I typed reboot, but it shut down, and I lost 1000s of dollars/second", etc)
14:31<@caker>We can't make 'reboot' soft-reboot, since then it wouldn't pick up config changes = equal chaos / ticket load
14:31<@caker>This is the best we can do.
14:31<tmus>those are two distinct signals to the "BIOS" and it works on kvm elsewhere. I should probably mention that I'm using distro provided kernel which probably makes a difference...
14:32<@caker>it doesn't
14:36<tmus>in any case - the hypervisor in general can easily make the distinction between reboot and poweroff - those are different acpi signals that hypervisors are certainly able to handle.
14:37<tmus>If you guys have it configured to do something else, that's a design choice and totally acceptable
14:38<tmus>just needed to make sure if I could revert to something that is much cleaner in my mind. Thanks for taking the time to even engage in this :)
14:43<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • ssh key pair authentication - from 2 computer? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14751&p=73350#p73350>
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16:33<vishal_>I am getting 403 error on Nginx, but the test php test page is working, can anyone guide?
16:35<@cmullen>hey vishal_ that's usually a permissions thing. Like the files your nginx server is trying to server do not have the correct permissions for either your nginx server or a visitor to access
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16:36<@cmullen>I'd start by taking a look at the way you've got those permissions set up for the documentroot of your website
16:36<vishal_>I have sudo access, I just given the command sudo chown www-data /var/www/html/gaunatural.com/public_html -R
16:37<vishal_>but, Nothing happened
16:37<@cmullen>yeah I can see that gaunatural.com is still showing that 403
16:38<vishal_>How can I show you the details?, I can share the server details as it is a trail server
16:38<vishal_>Yes
16:39<@cmullen>So this is a little outside of our scope but we could probably help point you in the right direction. Wanna open up a ticket and give us some details like the output of this command 'ls -l /var/www/html/gaunatural.com/public_html'
16:39<@cmullen>It's gonna be much easier for me and the support team to work this out with you through a ticket like that
16:40<@cmullen>you can just paste the output of that command in there to start and we'll start our troubleshooting in ticket
16:40<@cmullen>feel free to pm the ticket number once you set that up, but I'll keep my eye on the queue for it now.
16:40<vishal_>Thanks
16:40<vishal_>doing it
16:40<@cmullen>sure thing man
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16:44<vishal_>You can see this - https://bpaste.net/show/476f88c98524
16:44<vishal_>I have got something, why it is showing all this different ips?
16:46<@cmullen>I'm taking a look now
16:47<@cmullen>ah well one of those is me
16:47<@cmullen>trying to take a look at the site
16:47<@cmullen>one of those is probably yours
16:48<vishal_>Okay
16:48<@cmullen>if you've been checking it
16:48<@cmullen>by the way this message:
16:48<@cmullen>directory index of "/var/www/html/gaunatural.com/public_html/" is forbidden
16:48<vishal_>permission problem?
16:48<@cmullen>is definitely pointing us in the direction of a permission issue somewhere in there. Did you open that ticket up?
16:48<@cmullen>yup
16:48<@cmullen>shouldn't be too bad to fix
16:50<vishal_>In middle of opening one, but once I got a reply that "We are a hardware managing company, we don't guide on specific problems"
16:52<Peng>There's not necessarily a permission issue.
16:52<Peng>If there's no index.html file, and autoindex is off, Nginx will throw a 403.
16:52<Peng>index.html or whatever your "index" is set to.
16:53<@cmullen>oh yeah? I was just reading about that on my end too. I think an ls -l of that directory should set us straight in terms of what going on under the hood there
16:53<@cmullen>time to learn what autoindex is!
16:53<vishal_>Yes
16:54<vishal_>Ticket id is 7887901
16:54<Peng>autoindex is for automatically generating directory indexes.
16:54<Peng>I mean, "Index of blah blah blah" and a list of files.
16:55<vishal_>I have tried placing the default nginx index file, now to test that placed wordpress there
16:55<arlen>!point Peng
16:55<vishal_>nothing opened
16:55<linbot>arlen: Point given to peng. (11)
16:58<@cmullen>that is pretty cool Peng, so it just automatically sets up an index if you end a request in /? Seems pretty useful
16:59<Peng>If you enable it, yeah
16:59<@cmullen>vishal_: I just got back to you in your ticket. We can move forward with that from there
16:59<Peng>e.g. https://nginx.org/download/
17:00<@cmullen>ah very cool.
17:00<@cmullen>!point Peng
17:01<linbot>cmullen: Point given to peng. (12)
17:01<vishal_>Thanks @cmullen, replied you there
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18:26<User_D>HI
18:27<User_D>Can I order firewall in one VPS?
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20:19<cooldude>hi, i have a user on a linode that keeps coming on my IRC network triggering my DNSBLs, what can we do to resolve this?
20:21<dwfreed>I mean, why are they on the DNSBL in the first place?
20:21<cooldude>they are in the dnsbl.dronebl.org list
20:22<dwfreed>...so look up the IP and see why they're listed
20:22<cooldude>"host is attempting automated password cracking attacks against our honeypot network: audit your machine, run chkrootkit."
20:24<dwfreed>so send an abuse complaint to Linode
20:24<dwfreed>!abuse
20:24<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
20:28<cooldude>dwfreed, email sent!
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20:58<zifnab>https://uptime.statuscake.com/?TestID=F0c651wj0g
20:58<zifnab>replacement for uptimerobot, seems ok
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21:10<arlen>I just have them ping ip's, never notice the cache issue
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21:33<zifnab>thats fair, i had them monitoring http stuff
21:33<zifnab>SNI needs to happen :(
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21:48<gparent_>did uptimerobot go down?
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22:00<arlen>no, they don't honor TTL
22:04<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Installing PHP GD Library Mystery <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14740&p=73353#p73353>
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22:37<matthew>hi
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22:40<arlen>hi
22:41<Guest1044>can i make a payment through alipay or direct transfer?
22:42<arlen>no
22:42<Guest1044>our company can not provide visa / mastercard for me
22:42<Guest1044>sad...
22:43<arlen>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments#payment-methods lists the accepted payment methods
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