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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-05-01

---Logopened Mon May 01 00:00:32 2017
00:03<Nivex>100% pool remaining?! That's odd... oh, month just rolled. :)
00:03<retro|blah>gaaaaah another month
00:04<Peng>That rustling sound is the incoming invoices
00:04<dcraig>nivex, how low do you go?
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00:08<Nivex>I never pay attention to it
00:08<Nivex>I've never busted quota
00:09<dcraig>I think I make it to 98% :D
00:15<@mcintosh>/gop 13
00:15<@mcintosh>welp
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00:30<Celti>I used almost a quarter of my quota once when I forgot to turn off my VPN for threeish weeks and was streaming a lot of Netflix
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00:45<dcraig>/gop mcintosh
00:45<dcraig>you are now a republican
00:48<retro|blah>the grand old linode party
01:03<arlen>happy billing day
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02:23<dcraig>thx arlen
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02:32<arlen>welcome dcraig :)
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03:41<dwfreed>Happy Linode Billing Day!
03:44<FluffyFoxeh>grr
03:57<Meyer_>dwfreed: Thanks!
03:58<Meyer_>A great day
03:58<Meyer_>A possibility to contribute to the continuation of Linode
04:10<JamesTK>FluffyFoxeh: indeed
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04:37<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73389#p73389>
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07:08<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73390#p73390>
07:20<real007>thanks, are away
07:38<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73391#p73391>
07:43<dwfreed>arlen: gasoline, not -ta
07:43<dwfreed>s/-t/t-/
07:43<dwfreed>also ++
07:43<dwfreed>!point arlen
07:43<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to arlen. (6)
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08:10<wabz>hi! When I click on the "more information" link for a free upgrade link available on my linode, I get a message "Existing billing packages have not yet been reconciled. Please make sure your account is paid up.". My account balance is $0.00, why might I be getting this?
08:11<wabz>There's also a scheduled migration pending, but I was hoping I could just do that myself by doing this free upgrade
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08:11<real007>i use debian and freebsd unix, this channel is talk to unix?
08:12<real007>i am of catalonia(barcelona)
08:12<dwfreed>wabz: that message usually occurs when you've been invoiced, but your card hasn't been successfully charged yet to cover that invoice
08:12<real007>like @, i have 20 years with sco unix/linux debian/freebsd unix
08:12<dwfreed>wabz: though I think there's still the bug where if the invoice is completely paid with credit, some dates aren't updated, and support can fix that
08:13<wabz>"Your account is current."
08:13<dwfreed>yeah, so the bug still exists
08:13<real007>i'm 41 years old, but of my face are of 34, mi english not is enough good to long talk, is high, but need dictionary
08:13<wabz>I don't see any credit either. I'll open a ticket, thanks
08:13<real007>dont like talk, like smoke cigarretes, i'm away
08:18<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73392#p73392>
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08:33<Rahul>hi
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08:34<nickky>how to install cpanel in this hosting ?
08:35<Rahul>Can i add HDD for more storage ?
08:37<dwfreed>Rahul: at present you'd need to resize to a larger plan; a block storage service is in the works, and could be in beta Soon
08:37<linbot>nickky: Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
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08:37<arlen>dwfreed: gasoline?
08:37<dwfreed>arlen: forum
08:37<arlen>oh
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08:37<arlen>:)
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08:40<arlen>oh I see what you mean, too bad the forum won't let me edit
08:40<dwfreed>arlen: it does
08:40<dwfreed>I have totally edited my posts
08:42<arlen>yeah after a certain time, but it's expired now
08:43<arlen>I can edit the new post I just made but not the old one
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08:45<arlen>I need more coffee, wasn't logged in when I looked at the old one
08:45<arlen>you're right
08:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73393#p73393>
08:55<Woet>arlen: [TOP TIP] NTP hasn't been deprecated.
08:55<Woet>very nice
08:55<Woet>i approve
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09:06<arlen>:)
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09:08<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • DNSSEC support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14479&p=73394#p73394>
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09:10<EE>ipconfig
09:10<EE>ifconfig
09:10<EE>?
09:10<EE>anybody here?
09:11<arlen>yup
09:11<acald3ron>:p
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09:11<Zimsky>Woet: tcp is obsolete
09:11<EE>:D
09:11<EE>can u speak Chinese?
09:12<arlen>no
09:12<EE>ok
09:12<Zimsky>caonima
09:12<EE>......
09:12<EE>Is it a public live chat?
09:13<Zimsky>no, this chat is pre-recorded
09:13<EE>Are you linode's CS?
09:14<Zimsky>I am not linode's anything. I am the resident shit-stirrer
09:14<EE>you win.
09:14<FluffyFoxeh>This is the community
09:15<Zimsky>EE: I like you
09:15<veecious>get a room
09:15<Zimsky>veecious: I have many rooms
09:15<Zimsky>I need no more
09:15<EE>=。=
09:15<veecious>how many rooms?
09:16<Zimsky>oh at least 2
09:16<veecious>ppl in africa have no rooms and you have 2+
09:16<veecious>shame
09:18<Zimsky>veecious: I'm in africa
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09:19<veecious>yea where in africa?
09:19<Zimsky>that's a silly question
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09:20<FluffyFoxeh>Brazil, Africa
09:20<FluffyFoxeh>Right?
09:21<veecious>they have internet in africa in other places then south africa
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09:22<veecious>i mean how else would the princes send me emails asking to help me with their million dollar inheritance
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09:24<Zimsky>veecious:
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09:27<veecious>y
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10:03<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
10:04<Karrde>same
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10:11<praetorian>you should see a doctor about that.
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10:19<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • After doing "sudo ufw logging on", I never see my own requests in /var/log/ufw.log <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14770&p=73395#p73395>
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11:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73396#p73396>
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11:32<veecious>!party
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11:41<synfinatic>merry monday
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11:49<theZoMBiE>looking to get a linode vps... i was wondering can i run a vpn on your servers for us netflix :)
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11:49<synfinatic>i run openvpn on my linode. works great. never tried for netflix since i'm already in the US
11:50<Eugene>theZoMBiE - netflix blocks most VPS provider-owned netblocks, so probably not.
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11:51<theZoMBiE>is linode considered as a vpn provider? as they do specialize in the cloud hosting
11:52<nate>theZoMBiE: VPN's are not "hosting", VPS's are more or less roughly speaking, but yes linode is a VPS provider
11:52<FluffyFoxeh>they are a provider for infrastructure which you can use for anything that is legal
11:52<nate>You can get a linode VPS and set your own VPN up on it
11:52<FluffyFoxeh>subject to the terms of service
11:53<theZoMBiE>ok
11:53<FluffyFoxeh>dunno if circumventing netflix geo-restriction is technically "legal" but I do know that nobody cares
11:54<synfinatic>they've tried to make voilating terms of service illegal, but AFAIK it didn't pass. IANAL (except when I play one on the Internet)
11:54<theZoMBiE>yea exactly
11:54<veecious>i think it's just frowned upon like master baiting on an airplane
11:55<nate>FluffyFoxeh: At best it would be a violation of netflix policies
11:55<nate>(and worth noting netflix DOES 'look' for that kinda stuff these days so be prepared for a warning)
11:55<nate>assuming they simply haven't blocked linode's IP ranges, which is possible as well
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11:56<Eugene>I am 95% sure that Netflix has blocked Linode's IP ranges, along with lots of other tunnel, vpn, server, etc providers
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11:58<Eugene>I had to disable IPv6 on my television because of it(HE tunnel); IPv4(residential ISP) works fine
12:02<FluffyFoxeh>media execs must *really* hate money
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12:05<Bam_Bam>https://www.linode.com/api/dns lists a script LinodeDynDNS.py as a dynamic dns tool. That script doesn't seem to work, so I've created an alternative which does work for me: https://github.com/salisburybs/linode-dynamic-dns is there a way to get this script considered for inclusion into Linode's API docs? it could be useful to people
12:07<nate>FluffyFoxeh: Well that's the problem, netflix is only licensing them for certain areas, media execs aren't making money if you VPN around it. They want people to use their own services otherwise, ie; BBC, like when they moved all the BBC shows over to the new BBC streaming service
12:08<FluffyFoxeh>they're not making money even though (hypothetically) I'm paying netflix and watching their stuff?
12:09<Woet>FluffyFoxeh: you realise media execs are getting more money through exclusivity contracts right?
12:09<FluffyFoxeh>exclusivity?
12:09<nate>FluffyFoxeh: the less coverage netflix is giving it the less they're likely paying in licensing
12:09<Woet>yes.. licensing the content to HBO only for example.
12:10<FluffyFoxeh>ah
12:10<nate>Well regional too. Netflix would pay a lot more in licensing to show a show say, in the US, canada, UK, rather than -just- in canada
12:11<FluffyFoxeh>I assumed it was like music streaming where they got paid per view
12:11<Woet>they do.
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12:13<nate>Which is why licensing to show in three countries would be far more than just one :P
12:14<nate>but yeah, lets face it, media execs don't really think the best at all times, as it would probably make them far more money to not geo-restrict it but
12:14<Woet>why would HBO pay them $100 million for game of thrones
12:14<Woet>if they make it available to many providers at the same time
12:17<nate>sorta like CBS making the new star trek CBS-streaming only
12:19<FluffyFoxeh>seems like the cheapness of streaming was only short term, in the long run we end up paying the same amount as we used to, just to a bunch of different streaming services. except now we don't get to *keep* the content
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12:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73397#p73397>
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13:00<Eugene>Yup, everybody wants to get their bit. Either the entire system gets subverted, or you end up right back in the same system because it is always the same players involved.
13:01<Eugene>Which is why I acquire all of my Linux ISO Backups through collaborative file-sharing, and archive them onto local storage :v
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13:39<kBE>hey guys
13:39<kBE>i am trying to access webmin on my vps
13:39<kBE>but it's saying can't connect
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13:39<kBE>linode staff says my vps is OOming
13:39<kBE>any assistance here
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13:47<dzho>!to kBE oom
13:47<linbot>kBE: http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking
13:51<kBE>thx
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13:54<dzho>np
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14:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73398#p73398>
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14:30<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73399#p73399>
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15:50<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73402#p73402>
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16:00<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73403#p73403>
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16:21<zifnab>Why do crackers get stale
16:21<zifnab>They're already dried out
16:22<dzho>the get undried
16:22<dzho>reversion to the mean
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16:23<zifnab>They're not soggy though.
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16:27<@mcintosh>zifnab: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-why-does-food-get-stale/
16:27<bradchoate>does anyone happen to know why i have to force IPV4 for apt-get for any new ubuntu 16.04 LTS nodes i create? apt-get update just stalls until i do that...
16:31<Nivex>that seems odd. my gut read is that privacy extensions are on and causing havoc
16:33<bradchoate>i basically followed this advice and works fine via IPv4 - https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9940/convince-apt-get-not-to-use-ipv6-method
16:33<Nivex>yeah, but it's 2017, you shouldn't need to disable IPv6. We need to figure out what's wrong.
16:34<bradchoate>is it a linode issue or an issue with security.ubuntu.com?
16:34<Nivex>Do you have a /etc/sysctl.d/10-ipv6-privacy.conf ?
16:35<bradchoate>yes; whatever the default is for 16.04 LTS
16:35<bradchoate>net.ipv6.conf.all.use_tempaddr = 0
16:35<bradchoate>net.ipv6.conf.default.use_tempaddr = 0
16:35<Nivex>ok, those are the correct values
16:36<bradchoate>you can try it yourself: create a new 16.04 LTS linode 1024 then try to run apt-get update on it.
16:36<Nivex>I could, but I'm cheap
16:37<Nivex>I'd suggest opening a support ticket. Linode has been very responsive to IPv6 issues.
16:37<bradchoate>run it for 5 minutes. it's probably less than a penny
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16:55<Peng>Linode annual billing day /o\
16:55<Peng>More than a penny
16:58<@caker>security.ubuntu.com sucks at IPv6, and pretty much always has... It's not us and not much we can do about it
16:59<@caker>for a while we pointed security at our mirrors, but got static because upstream mirror sources are slow and people needed their shellshock updates right now, damnit
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17:03<Peng>:X
17:04<Nivex>I finally got some traction on my 3-year-old bug about start.ubuntu.com not working https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1260855
17:04<Nivex>so maybe they're listening now
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17:14<dwfreed>caker: get ubuntu to make you a push primary for dallas1, and then make the rest of the mirrors push secondaries
17:16<dwfreed>a push mirror is simply triggered by ssh whenever there's an update; uses well-known ssh public key, and a ForceCommand to run the ftpmirror script; push primaries get their notifications from the master server, push secondaries get their notifications from a push primary
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17:25<zifnab>i thought security didn't mirror (at all)
17:25<dwfreed>On ubuntu it's all one repo
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17:34<zifnab>ah, interesting
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17:34<zifnab>i always assumed security wasn't mirrorable on purpose
17:34<zifnab>'use us'
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17:57<MajObviousman>arlen: I'm giggling at [TOP TIP] NTP hasn't been deprecated.
17:57<dwfreed>I laughed too
18:08<arlen>:D
18:14<zifnab>what did i miss
18:14<zifnab>ntp is obviously deprecated, all servers must now have attached uranium clock
18:18<Peng>\o/
18:18<Peng>Not just one clock per host -- each Linode should have its own dedicated clock.
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18:57<zifnab>Peng: that is exactly what i meant!
18:57<zifnab>assume a jiggawatt of ram, thats what, 1000 clocks per host?
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19:01<Zimsky>zifnab: "uranium clock"
19:01<Zimsky>lol.
19:01<Zimsky>pls
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19:01<zifnab>what
19:01<Zimsky>you can't use uranium as a frequency standard
19:01<Zimsky>caesium or rubidium, pref Cs
19:01<zifnab>the decay rate of 238 into 235 is totally predictable
19:01<Zimsky>Cs-133 specifically
19:01<zifnab>(or do i have those backwards)
19:02<Zimsky>Cs-133 as a standard is more accurate
19:02<Zimsky>in fact, the most accurate one can be for atomic standards
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19:02<Zimsky>you could also use Rb-87
19:04<Zimsky>zifnab doesn't know his nuclear physics
19:04<Zimsky>ಠ_ಠ
19:04<zifnab>but, i do play factorio
19:04<Zimsky>a shame to us all
19:04*Zimsky rings shame bell
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19:06<Zimsky>openssl is being a right cunt today - this build seems to shit itself if you use TLSv1.0
19:07<Eugene>Have you tried non-diuretic gcc?
19:07<zifnab>mmm diuretics
19:09<Zimsky>Eugene: urine production isn't of concern here
19:09<Zimsky>it's /shitting/ itself
19:09<zifnab>diuretics lead to dehydration
19:09<zifnab>which also leads to constipation
19:09<zifnab>he isn't wrong
19:10<Zimsky>which /can/
19:10<Zimsky>doesn't necessarily
19:10<Zimsky>there's multiple factors involved - thus non-diuretic gcc would likely have the same issue
19:11<Zimsky>because Eugene makes the assumption that the shitting is a cause of diuresis
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19:12<Zimsky>the shitting could be a GI issue
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19:12<Zimsky>on that note; whenever I hear "GI Joe", I think "Gastrointestinal Joe"
19:13<Eugene>It was the best I could think of on short notice
19:13<Eugene>Sooooo
19:13<Zimsky>Eugene: trust me im a doctor
19:13<Eugene>That is not a stethoscope
19:14<Zimsky>I own my own stethoscope
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19:15<zifnab>are you sure its not a hammer?
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19:16<Zimsky>zifnab: quite sure, otherwise that dude's heart I listened to is in trouble
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19:17<pharaun>golden stethoscope
19:17<Zimsky>I did that thing again where I swatted a mosquito and got my own blood smeared over my own hand
19:17<Eugene>Its a fine line between bang-bang and thump-thump
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19:18<pharaun>well would you have rathered your own blood or someone's else blood?
19:18<pharaun>(re mosquito)
19:18<pharaun>(probably also had someone's else as well in it)
19:18<Zimsky>provided they don't have transferrable diseases in that blood, I don't really care
19:18<Zimsky>s/diseases/pathogens/
19:19<pharaun>there's that as well :>
19:19<Zimsky>I don't really have issue when it comes to contact with biological material as long as it's not going to mess me up
19:19<Zimsky>part of what I do involves not having to be worried about that
19:20<Zimsky>just don't spill the arsenic
19:21<Zimsky>(seriously, don't spill the arsenic)
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20:28<Eliz>this channel seems largely dead these days heh
20:28<millisa>factorio 0.15 came out.
20:29<Zimsky>Eliz: that's because I started saying things
20:29<Zimsky>and because nate started saying things too
20:30<Eliz>Zimsky: that'd do it :p
20:30<Zimsky>also it's not "largely dead" at all
20:30<Zimsky>what is your sample?
20:30<Eliz>Zimsky: compared to a few years ago, it definitely feels like it
20:31<Eliz>I'd probably have to pull logs to compare, honestly
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20:54<Zimsky>Eliz: let's do a statistical study on it
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22:22<judyhebei>hello, is customer servise here/
22:23<Nivex>This is the community chat. If you need customer support, file a ticket.
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22:23<judyhebei>thank you
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22:51<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • DNSSEC support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14479&p=73408#p73408>
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23:11<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • UFW not enabled on reboot Debian 8 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14774&p=73410#p73410>
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