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---Logopened Fri May 05 00:00:37 2017
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00:45<atian>damn that compliance page looks on fleek
00:46*dcraig tickles atian around a bit with a large bonito
00:46<dcraig>comply with the bonito.
00:46<atian>no thanks let me make bonito flakes out of you
00:47<atian>and sprinkle on my tofu
00:47<dcraig>tofu you!
00:48<code4hack>I want to resize one disk without losing data, is it possible?
00:50<code4hack>I mean I have no space to backup the data
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00:52<dcraig>you can shrink a disk and not lose data
00:52<code4hack>got it, thanks
00:52<dcraig>don't make it smaller than the amount you're using
00:53<dcraig>in any event, it's always good to have backups!
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01:02<retro|blah>Also not suggested: shrinking dcraig.
01:04<dcraig>I can't get amy smaller
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01:04<dcraig>any, too
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02:25<natesreich>Hello, my server keeps trying to start itself but doesn't boot:
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02:25<natesreich>Any ideas on what could be going on?
02:30<millisa>what's lish show?
02:35<natesreich>Actually, support responded with this:
02:35<natesreich>Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance.^M
02:35<natesreich>I don't have the slightest clue how to fix it.
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02:56<Zimsky>perhaps pass the init option to kernel
02:56<natesreich>Sorry, how do I do that?
02:57<natesreich>I am trying this, and it doesn't show any errors
02:57<natesreich>But it doesn't say "clean" either
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04:16<Zimsky>hello peng
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04:29<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Canada based Linodes <>
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07:14<Nerijus>Hi, linode.disk.createfromimage requires ImageID, is there API call that lists all images that are saved by the user?
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07:18<numspa>Hey there
07:19<numspa>anyone here can tell if linode accepts bitcoin, for vps plans ?
07:22<Woet>they dont.
07:26<scotti>numspa: you can pay BuyVM or RamNode in BTC
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07:34<numspa>tks guys... its a shame
07:35<numspa>everybody is running towards btc
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07:48<dwfreed>Nerijus: ?
07:50<Nerijus>yeah, already found it
07:50<Nerijus>thanks anyway
07:51<Zimsky>Woet: or do you mean they /woet/
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07:56<Richie>i wanna be rich :(
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07:58<ponas>Richie: let me know if you figure out how to make that happen
07:58<Richie>ok ponas
07:58<ponas>I've seen a few guides but they always seem to be missing a step: 1) <something> 2) ??? 3) profit!
07:59<ponas>please figure out step 2
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08:02<Richie>step 2 is 3 question marks
08:04<ponas>how do i 3 question marks
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08:05<trnode>is there anyone who speakes turkish ?
08:07<Richie>question marks = used to express doubt or uncertainty about something. - Yolo step 1 no matter how unsure you are about it
08:08<ponas>trnode: Sadece Google Translate Turkish biliyoruz.
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08:11<trnode>o da olur ?
08:12*trnode slaps ponas around a bit with a large fishbot
08:17<ponas>we don't know turkish
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08:46<linbot>New news from status: Emergency Network Maintenance - Frankfurt <>
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09:18<jim5453>hey, I wanted to ask of Linode sponsors servers to open source projects
09:19<oi01a>I'm sure you could get server owners to offer up a spare instance or two if your project is viable.
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10:12<silver>hi, i have changed some limits with ulimit, but how do i make them take effect ? running ulimit -a shows the old values again
10:18<uther>add them to /etc/sysctl.conf
10:18<uther>man 5 sysctl.conf
10:19<grawity>ulimits are not sysctls
10:19*uther facepalms
10:19<uther>you're right
10:20<silver>ok ulimit -n 10000 worked for now
10:20<grawity>for user logins, I think it's something like /etc/security/limits.conf?
10:20<grawity>for services, edit the systemd .service or the init.d script
10:20<grawity>anyway, `ulimit` *does* take effect immediately
10:21<dzho>but it won't persist
10:21<grawity>but only in the shell you used it in
10:21<dzho>that too
10:21<grawity>to tweak a running service's limits, you can use `prlimit`
10:21<grawity>to make it persist, edit what I said above
10:21<dzho>silver: ^^^^
10:25<dwfreed>grawity: TIL about prlimit
10:28<Eliz>dwfreed learning something is .. uncommon
10:29<Eliz>he usually already knows about it :p
10:29<dwfreed>I learn things all the time
10:29<Eliz>rarely do you exclaim such learnings :p
10:30<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Canada based Linodes <>
10:31<grawity>oh, util-linux has all sorts of weird stuff
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10:35<trippeh_>for systemd, it's usually better to use a "drop-in" instead of editing the systemd service files directly, if you are changing it for something you are not shipping yourself. eg make a /etc/systemd/system/servicename.service.d/blah.conf with the specific overrides you need only.
10:35<trippeh_>that way upgrades wont be awkward.
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10:37<Eliz>mmm, that said, most package managers won't touch modified files anyway
10:37<Eliz>which could bite you in the ass just as much
10:38<grawity>most will, unless the file was specifically marked as config
10:38<Eliz>ah, true,
10:38*Eliz is curious how the systemd files are marked when it comes to debuntu
10:38<grawity>init.d scripts in /etc tend to be marked as config – systemd units in /usr aren't, since you have other options for override
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10:39<grawity>running `systemctl edit [--full] foo` isn't that hard
10:39<dzho>not in all one command like this, but often enough I'll do something the end result of which is dpkg -L `dpkg -S \`which prlimit\` | sed -e 's/\(.*\):.*/\1/' ` | grep bin
10:39<dzho>when I encounter a new thing that looks handy
10:39<Eliz>remembering all the damned locations on the other hand, /me pulls out her postit notes
10:40<trippeh_>oh, they even have a shortcut for it. handy
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10:40<grawity>systemctl edit, systemctl cat, systemctl revert, systemd-delta
10:40<Eliz>jfc, apartment complex is demoing a unit, and it's been non stop noise for the past 3 hours :(
10:40<Eliz>to the starbucks! lol
10:41<grawity>never been to a starbucks but isn't that a more noisy place
10:42<Eliz>grawity: really? the one next to me is pretty much always quiet
10:45<Eliz>least during the work day, once it's night and they start serving alcohol it's an entirely different beast
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11:10<NerijusS>are there different API calls for hard and soft shutdown and reboot?
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11:11<Nerijus>as I see only one method for shutdown and reboot
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11:25<Jake_>Hi - Question: I am planning on upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04 to Ubuntu 16.04. If I add a new linode, rebuild the stack, transfer data, and swap ip addresses (thereafter deleting the old linode will I be charged for the "new" linode?
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11:29<DrJ>Jake_, the quicker you do it the less you pay
11:30<Jake_>Thanks! That is helpful.
11:30<DrJ>For smaller plans like $20 and under you could be looking at 5cents or less of an increase on your next invoice if you do all that in a few hours
11:31<DrJ>even with a $80 linode though it would take you 8 hours to reach $1 of extra billing
11:32<DrJ>and, and just to make sure... make sure you actually delete the old one when done
11:33<DrJ>you'll still be billed if you just power it off
11:34<DrJ>wouldn't want you to not realize that and pay a lot more than neccessary
11:44<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:23<iamdayo>Hello @all. I need your help. I am trying to install the Mirktoik Cloud Hosted Router ( on a linode. The cloud hosted router is available as a .vdi, .vmdk and file. I tried using as a guide to install, but I didn't get anywhere. Kindly help.
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16:09<m4xm0rris>Hey guys, I have a couple of servers currently hosting client websites for my small website comapny on DigitalOcean, I have been thinking of migrating to Linode for a while now, in your opinion, is it worth the migration?
16:09<uther>linode is the bomb
16:10<m4xm0rris>In what way would you say its better than DigitalOcean? Have you had experience with DigitalOcean in the past? They both just seem so similar but I always hear people rave about Linode.
16:12<grawity>imho Linode is a bit more oldschool when it comes to server hosting, while DO is all cloud and stuff
16:13<m4xm0rris>How so?
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16:23*eglesoft slaps agracie around a bit with a large fishbot
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16:23<eglesoft>how are you
16:24<eglesoft>i am need support
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16:26<dzho>eglesoft: !ask
16:26<grawity>questions first, support later
16:26<dzho>!to eglesoft ask
16:26<linbot>eglesoft: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
16:26<dzho>!to eglesoft ops
16:26<linbot>eglesoft: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
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16:28<linbot>veecious: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
16:28<veecious>what's the command to slap people with a fish
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16:33<MajObviousman>you just made that word up!
16:33<MajObviousman>I know words and that's not one
16:33<@abrining>veecious I don't think there is one right now, you may just have to do it yourself, like this:
16:33*abrining slaps synfinatic with a salmon
16:34<synfinatic>uh, oh. this fish war is escalating.
16:34<synfinatic>just so you know, i have a swordfish and I'm not afraid of using it!
16:35<MajObviousman>but you have no training
16:35<MajObviousman>"the pointy end goes in the other man" there's a bit more to it than that
16:35<synfinatic>oh. and here I was going to grill it on the BBQ.
16:36<veecious>ah ok thanks have to slap people with fish the old fashioned way
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16:40<@abrining>veecious lots of other things you can do though
16:40<@abrining>linbot aol I like smileys
16:40<linbot>abrining: I like smileys<3<3<3
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16:41<zifnab>whats the current turnaround time on tickets
16:41<zifnab>i've never actually broken 3 hours before
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16:42<dzho>MajObviousman: it's my birthright as a native English speaker to be able to just make words up. And if fetch happens, then it's a word. Full stop.
16:43<dzho>in this case, though, the word has some history of use at mefi at the very least.
16:43<MajObviousman>are you a member of the Union of Allied Wordsmithies?
16:43<dzho>much as I'd like to take credit for it.
16:43<dzho>I am interested in your labor theories and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
16:44<MajObviousman>it's not all adverbs and grammar, you know. Wordsmithery is hard work!
16:44<zifnab>english makes no sense anyways
16:46<veecious>didn't they add bling-bling to the dictionary
16:46<MajObviousman>they added numerous things to the dictionary
16:48<dzho>English dictionaries being merely descriptive compendia, not authoritative in any way.
16:48<dzho>you want that shiz, you got to speak French or something.
16:49<veecious>no one can enforce you from using words you made up
16:50<veecious>but you can't turn in any legal documents using dark speech
16:50<dzho>this is what I love about the whole "English as the official language" movement: That implicit in that is a government bureaucracy that decides what is and isn't English.
16:52<veecious>someone has to do it
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17:15<dzho>not really
17:39<Eugene>English is a criminal language. Other dialects are content with designing their speech to be beautiful(like French), or design it to work for everybody(Esperanto). English is the kid who waits in the alleyway and mugs you for spare bits of grammar and spelling at midnight after the bar
17:42<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Im glad I now signed up <>
17:45<relidy>^ spam
17:46<relidy>Heh, too slow I guess.
17:51<synfinatic>Eugene you have no idea how happy that makes me :)
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20:12<nate>huh strange, my one linode apparently crashed
20:13*uther blames vmware
20:14<nate>... why the fuck is there an 11G dnf.librepo.log file in /root
20:15<nate>oh wait sorry, apparently I launched into /var/log
20:16<nate>still though, 11G, jesus
20:16<@nbrewer>that still seems way too large
20:16<nate>indeed, more so for a box I barely do anything on (it would have been doing some mild automatic updates though)
20:21<@nbrewer>apparently they weren't so mild
20:22<@nbrewer>for some reason i thought fedora shipped with logrotate by default..i haven't used it in a couple of years
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20:27<uther>Screen Resolution: 2560 x 1440 (HiDPI Mode)
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20:29<nate>nbrewer: Same actually, I think my other ones did have it, but perhaps not. I might be switching these over to ubuntu LTS or something though just to avoid having to re do these things yearly
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21:53<Eman>does atlanta still have a bunch of blocked ports? or has that been resolved wtih the newer network configuration?
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21:55<Eman>good thanks
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