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00:04<dcraig>"beer stores"
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00:11<arlen>mmm beer
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00:40<Fasik>is it live chat by linode
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00:40<arlen>live user chat
00:40<arlen>!ask
00:40<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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01:52<dcraig>error has occurred
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02:12<dcraig>linode is overheating
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02:22<arlen>oh no
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02:31<JamesTK>oh no
02:31<JamesTK>dcraig is overheating
02:33<arlen>it's chilly tonight. :(
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02:34<JamesTK>:(
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02:40<dcraig>james got me hottt
02:50<JamesTK>:)
02:50<FluffyFoxeh>mmh
02:59<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Account Activation "currently being reviewed" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14784&p=73433#p73433>
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03:01<Woet>it's been NEARLY 2 HOURS!!!1111!1111
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03:01<arlen>omg!!
03:06<Cromulent>I demand Linode do everything instantly!
03:08<Ikaros>I demand....THINGS!
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03:16<FluffyFoxeh>https://blog.mozilla.org/internetcitizen/2017/03/21/the-ways-web-assembly-will-transform-internet-health/
03:16<FluffyFoxeh>"For gamers, you can now play your favorite games, right in your browser"
03:16<FluffyFoxeh>why on earth would I want to do that
03:16<Zimsky>yes, we've already giggled about it
03:16<FluffyFoxeh>oh
03:16<Zimsky>tbh if you can achieve the same performance, why does it fucking matter?
03:18<FluffyFoxeh>because the web browser makes no sense as a place to run such things
03:18<FluffyFoxeh>:p
03:18<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: why not?
03:18<Zimsky>the internet(ish) was originally only for US military communications
03:19<Zimsky>now we all use it for sending pictures of our genitalia and laughing at cats doing stupid shit
03:19<FluffyFoxeh>okay well maybe I should play Crysis in my IRC client or read emails in my file browser
03:19<FluffyFoxeh>because hey we can shoehorn arbitrary binaries into anything
03:19<Zimsky>yeah but you see, that makes no sense
03:20<FluffyFoxeh>and it makes sense to run Photoshop or Call of Duty in my web browser?
03:20<arlen>yup
03:20<Zimsky>a web browser is designed to be able to display dynamic content and through stuff like javascript, execute local functional code
03:20<Zimsky>so, it makes more sense to run crysis in your browser than your irc client
03:21<Zimsky>personally, I'd rather leave the web browser for browsing the web
03:21<Zimsky>and natively-written applications as natively-written applications
03:21<FluffyFoxeh>even if it makes *more* sense that doesn't mean it's not still stupid
03:22<Zimsky>my point is, apart from "BUT BUT BUT IT'S LIKE PUTTING AN APPLE ON A CHAIR TO LOOK AT IT ON WEDNESDAYS", if you can use a browser to run something originally compiled as native binary at the same (or better performance, though that seems unlikely), then there seems to be no real issue apart from the idea of static predetermined purpose
03:24<FluffyFoxeh>still would rather not. web people find all sorts of ways to make everything they touch shittier
03:27<internat>im sure chrome and mozilla just want to gain insight into your native application usage.. Nothing to worry about, just more data collection at work
03:28<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: like php
03:28<Peng>Mozilla collects certain data for functional purposes, but you realize they're not the evil empire
03:28<Zimsky>the language that should never have been
03:29<Zimsky>mozilla are cool
03:29<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • -DELETE- <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14784&p=73433#p73433>
03:29<Zimsky>-DELETE-
03:29<internat>personally i find it good that google or mozilla (i cant remember which), are stickign it to symantec
03:30<Ikaros>Baleeted
03:30<internat>aww but i dont want to be baleeted
03:30<Ikaros>How about delteated?
03:31<internat>ill consider it
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03:31<Zimsky>one of the bigger issues is american control of the internet
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03:32<Zimsky>and taking steps to equalise that control/administration amongst all nations
03:32<Ikaros>Cookies if you get the references I was making
03:33<Zimsky>10 of the 13 root name servers are operated by american organisations :(
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03:34<FluffyFoxeh>delet this
03:34<Zimsky>I'm glad the NTIA/ICANN contract ended in 2016
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03:36<Peng>Zimsky: It's not governments that want to make the Internet better than want to wrest American control, though.
03:36<Zimsky>Peng, how do you mean?
03:36<Peng>that*
03:37<Zimsky>well, I get what you mean, but what's the relevance?
03:37<Peng>Zimsky: Does [random utopia] want the ITU to control the Internet? No. Does Russia? Yes.
03:37<FluffyFoxeh>the tech giants do much more damage to the internet than the US government
03:37<Peng>Better the devil you know taking down music piracy domains without due process than whatever-the-heck could happen, IMO.
03:37<Zimsky>russia is good
03:38<Zimsky>they wouldn't hurt anyone
03:38<FluffyFoxeh>unless they're gayt
03:38<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: true
03:38<FluffyFoxeh>right
03:38<FluffyFoxeh>:p
03:38<Zimsky>you could argue both ways though, really
03:39<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • salon de massage sur lyon <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14785&p=73434#p73434>
03:40<Zimsky>the us government, legislatively, is clueless and inept when it comes to technical internet governance, which could result in anything from no changes to the current system to catastrophic fuck-ups
03:41<Zimsky>whereas organisations are more likely to have an agenda or goal of what they want to achieve
03:41<Zimsky>internet governance is complicated :(
03:41<Peng>:D
03:42<FluffyFoxeh>https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15965524_1348825748516840_8068502695080735223_n.jpg?oh=d50a013747e345ff435954074c21587b&oe=59C23BCC
03:42<Zimsky>last time I checked though, mitch mcconnell or whatever his name is, is not a network engineer (or even decent person, for that matter)
03:43<Zimsky>there was more to the point I was going to make but it's a grey area and I can't be bothered
03:46<arlen>!point Zimsky
03:46<linbot>arlen: Point given to zimsky. (5)
03:46<Zimsky>thanks arlen, it's been a while since I last ate
03:46<Zimsky>now I can afford meals
03:46<arlen>:)
03:48<Zimsky>microsoft doesn't use ipv6 on their mail servers?
03:48<Zimsky>wat
03:49<Ikaros>Of course not, my servers have always talked to theirs over IPv4
03:49<Ikaros>Geez, even GOOGLE'S ahead of them on that
03:50<Zimsky>google is almost always ahead when it comes to rolling out new stuff like that
03:50<FluffyFoxeh>you say "even google" like you'd not expect them to be on top of IPv6
03:50<Zimsky>though, ipv6 is hardly new
03:50<Ikaros>True.
03:50<Ikaros>But SOME people lag behind
03:50<Zimsky>you'd expect microsoft to at least be up there though
03:50<Ikaros>Namely, a number of US-based ISPs
03:51<Zimsky>even yahoo has ipv6 on their main site
03:51<Ikaros>"Oh it's not necessary we have plenty of space left"
03:51<Zimsky>...bing doesn't even have ipv6
03:51<Ikaros>Let's see if they can say that when they're FORCED to
03:51<Zimsky>have any semi-large ISPs even rolled out ipv6-only yet?
03:52<Ikaros>Not IPv6-only but some larger ones have at least rolled out transitional technologies
03:52<FluffyFoxeh>IPv6-only right now would be a terrible idea
03:52<Ikaros>Hell, even Charter/Time Warner (Spectrum) not only rolled out IPv6 in their markets...theirs has reverse DNS
03:52<Zimsky>I don't think we'll see anyone being forced to roll out v6 (in order to maintain their business reachability) until we see ISPs dropping native ipv4
03:52<Ikaros>Just like their v4s
03:53<Zimsky>that's rather neat
03:53<Zimsky>is it configurable though?
03:53<Ikaros>Though I have no idea how you manage to do rDNS for THAT many potential subscriber addresses
03:53<Zimsky>I don't get it
03:53<Zimsky>why would the number of potential addresses matter?
03:54<Ikaros>That's a LOT of addresses to configure forward and reverse hosts for
03:54<Ikaros>Even smaller pools assigned to them
03:54<Zimsky>you're not filling a bind zonefile or pdns database with each and every address though
03:54<Ikaros>Maybe that's why some don't do it yet
03:54<Ikaros>'cause it's not really necessitated
03:54<Ikaros>No you're not, and you're right
03:55<Zimsky>you just run an authoritative nameserver that constructs the necessary PTR/AAAA based on the query
03:55<Ikaros>But yeah. Spectrum does do rDNS for IPv6 for their customers, much in the same manner as the usual IPv4 reverse host
03:55<FluffyFoxeh>let's just start assigning the same address to multiple endpoints and send them both the packets
03:55<FluffyFoxeh>one of them will be the right one
03:55<Ikaros>Not 'configurable' really, it's just there
03:56<Zimsky>"hi I'd like the PTR for 1.0.16.172.in-addr.arpa.", and then it responds with "sure lad it's 172-16-0-1.shitfight.whitehouse.gov"
03:56<Zimsky>or something akin to that
03:56<Zimsky>it's a quick bit of code
03:56<Ikaros>If I see a DNS server that actually talks like that I'll use it :P
03:56<Ikaros>"sure lad"
03:56<Zimsky>you'd be a lunatic to actually fill a database with every PTR
03:56<Zimsky>even for ipv4
03:57<Ikaros>Heh, well my ISP doesn't even do IPv4 rDNS
03:57<Zimsky>just specify your ranges and only provide responses to those addresses (in arpa format)
03:57<Ikaros>They believe that's a privilege reserved for static customers
03:57<Zimsky>do you have to pay more to be static?
03:57<Zimsky>also static sucks
03:57<Ikaros>Yes
03:57<Zimsky>for residential stuff
03:57<Ikaros>But I'll tell you it mucks with my mailserver setup for obvious reasons
03:58<Zimsky>is this a residential connection?
03:58<Ikaros>My server: "Whoa wait a minute you don't have reverse DNS? WTF that's ghey *denied*"
03:58<Ikaros>Yep
03:58<Ikaros>US-based no less.
03:58<Zimsky>that seems unwise
03:58<FluffyFoxeh>I used to run my mail server at my house :p
03:58<FluffyFoxeh>now it's on my Linode
03:59<Ikaros>Nah I just chalk it up to their NOC's stupidity
03:59<Zimsky>sure, used to, when decent servers were a minimum of 20 usd/month
03:59<Ikaros>'cause from what I can see, the IPs in my range that DO have rDNS set...only have PTRs WITHOUT matching address records.
03:59<Ikaros>So that generates warnings in some mail servers 'cause it can't verify the match
03:59<Zimsky>but now in the wonderful age of fivers per month, just spin up a little slice of the 'li and you're golden
04:00<Ikaros>I mean in what world do the network people for my ISP live in that says you only need a PTR
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04:02<FluffyFoxeh>https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14702241_710455885779947_4440304860382107471_n.jpg?oh=c85d61420c5b04068565caf71e5075d6&oe=5981679A
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04:03<Ikaros>My mail server already blocks IPs as one of many measures I have taken to avoid spam relays, even going so far as to checking that *first* before authentication...so yeah, that means when I try to talk to my own mail server it blocks me. I just use my tunnel to speak to it but it's a bit inconvenient.
04:03<Ikaros>I mean checking if it has rDNS, that is
04:04<arlen>I just use fastmail
04:05<Ikaros>Of course, I still think my ISP is full of twats that I could run the NOC with a hand tied behind my back better than they could...and no that's not me being full of myself, I mean it literally. >.>
04:05<Ikaros>but enough ranting from me, it's time for sleep
04:07<Zimsky>that doesn't necessarily mean that you could run it "well"
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04:07<Zimsky>just better than they could.
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04:08<Zimsky>so if you could quantify their ability to run it as a numerical value, and the most awful operation of it being 0, and the best being 100, and their ability to run it ranks as a 14, then you could be understood to only be able to run it to an ability that would be quantified as a 15 on such a scale
04:09<Zimsky>which, while upholding your statement that you could run it better than them, you're also, in reality, still running it rather poorly
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04:11<Zimsky>but that's only one of many possibilities (the number of possibilities depending on the scale interval/step)
04:11<Zimsky>perhaps you could run it to the ability of a 100
04:11<Zimsky>something something statistics
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05:30<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Canada based Linodes <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11309&p=73435#p73435>
05:31<Peng>If Canada invades and takes New England, Newark will be Canada based.
05:33<rsdehart>s/If/When/
05:33<Peng>\o/
05:33<rsdehart>but I've said too much
05:38<Zimsky>there's a new england?
05:39<Zimsky>I thought the americans hated england
05:39<Zimsky>like, that's why they ruined the english language and all
05:39<Peng>New English is better than the old one
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06:42<ardi>hello, any staff linode here
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06:45<Cromulent>!ask
06:45<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
06:45<Cromulent>!ops
06:45<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
06:45<ardi>!ask
06:45<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
06:46<ardi>!help
06:46<linbot>ardi: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
06:46<Cromulent>ardi: just ask your question
06:48<ardi>payment method in linode, can i pay with paypal ?
06:49<Cromulent>you need to link a credit card to your account but you can top up your account balance with paypal
06:50<ardi>i already registered, but i can't find paypal method sir
06:51<Woet>did you link a creditcard?
06:52<ardi>yes , i link my paypal with my credit card
06:52<Woet>no
06:52<Woet>you need to add a creditcard to your linode account.
06:53<ardi>now, my cc is limited, just have paypal balance
06:53<Woet>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments#making-a-payment
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08:39<kartika>hello
08:39<kartika>how long verify account ?
08:45<csnxs>as long as it takes
08:46<DrJ>kartika, usually not that long
08:46<DrJ>a few hours at the most
08:46<DrJ>but possibly as little as a few minutes
08:47<DrJ>if it takes more than a couple hours I'd give them a call
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10:51<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Canada based Linodes <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11309&p=73436#p73436>
10:53<nate>"I think it would be awesome for Linode to create a Canadian based subsidiary (should be able to structure it in a way to limit US government interference). That subsidiary would be subject to Canadian privacy laws that are (I believe) among the strictest in the world." lol
10:54<nate>this year is full of so much tin foily
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10:55<pacian>I need help
10:55<pacian>I have the following error messge when I run sudo apt-get update
10:56<pacian>pacian@SDULIB:/$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade Hit:1 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease Hit:2 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease Hit:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease Reading package lists... Done E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E:
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11:06<nate>pacian: you're not running the upgrade as sudo, the && is specifying a whole new command
11:10<pacian>this is the error message
11:10<pacian>pacian@SDULIB:/$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade Hit:1 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease Hit:2 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://mirrors.linode.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease Hit:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease Reading package lists... Done E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E:
11:11<dwfreed>right, as nate said, the apt-get upgrade is not running under sudo
11:11<dwfreed>sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
11:13<pacian>ahh yes.. I found the error
11:13<pacian>thanks
11:14<Woet>you didn't find the error
11:14<Woet>nate did
11:15<Woet>and dwfreed repeated it
11:20<pacian>yes that is true.. I was just stating without actually typing it I found the error that Nate pointed out.. and many thanks to Nate
11:21<pacian>another problem..
11:22<pacian>I am installing and have installed FAIL2BAN and optionally installed SENDMAIL
11:22<pacian>while following teh instructions I received this message:
11:22<pacian>Linking /etc/aliases to /etc/mail/aliases Informational: ALIAS_FILE file empty: /etc/mail/aliases Updating /etc/mail/aliases... WARNING: local host name (SDULIB) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? /etc/mail/aliases: 0 aliases, longest 0 bytes, 0 bytes total Warning: 3 database(s) sources were not found, (but were created) please investigate.
11:23<pacian>what should I do besides the obvious, investigate?
11:25<Woet>when did you get that message?
11:26<pacian>after installing SENDMAIL
11:27<Woet>no need to CAPITALISE software names
11:27<Woet>those messages are fine during installation
11:28<pacian>sorry.. force of habit .. I write many email message to people I provide support .. I highlight details I want people to focus on..
11:29<pacian>ok thanks...
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12:52<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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14:11<pacian>I am unable to gain access to my linode server see error
14:11<pacian>Enter passphrase for key '/home/pacian/.ssh/id_rsa': Permission denied (publickey)
14:11<pacian>the passphase is correct
14:11<pacian>what did I do wrong and how do I fix ?
14:12<dwfreed>!lish
14:12<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
14:12<dwfreed>^ use that to log into your Linode and look at your logs to see why it's erroring
14:21<Woet>pacian: the key you are using is not an authorized key on your server.
14:21<Woet>not for that user at least.
14:22<pacian>understood..
14:22<pacian>what can I do
14:22<Woet>read what dwfreed said.
14:23<pacian>how can I start over again, clearly I made a huge mistake
14:23<pacian>I can only access using root
14:23<Woet>thats all you need.
14:23<pacian>I do not know how to use LISH
14:23<Woet>then click the handy guide that the message contained.
14:24<pacian>and usning it does not actually tell me how to solve my ssh problem
14:24<Woet>it gets you access to your server.
14:24<Woet>from there you use the commands to debug and solve the issue.
14:24<pacian>I prefer to not use root and use anotehr login as suggested my Linode
14:24<Woet>then configure that
14:24<pacian>how can I purge the user and start again
14:25<dwfreed>by logging in via Lish and fixing it
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14:34<pacian>ok.. I now have access to my lonode.. what next?
14:36<dwfreed>you should look at /var/log/auth.log to see why it was refusing to let you in
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14:42<pacian>pretty large file this auth.log
14:42<Woet>thats why you tail it while you try again.
14:42<scotti>pacian: man tail
14:42<scotti>or
14:42<scotti>pacian: we're going to teach you Linux Systems Administration in here
14:42<scotti>after your #linode crash course
14:43<scotti>you can earn $100000+ per year
14:43<scotti>working in Silicone Valley
14:44<dwfreed>that's a different valley
14:44<scotti>dwfreed: that's where you make the big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
14:44<scotti>if you're a hot chick that is
14:44<dwfreed>yeah, let's not go there
14:45*scotti wants to visit some day
14:45<arlen>the internet?
14:45<ponas>that's also where you pay shitloads of $$$ just for some crap place to stay isn't it
14:45<scotti>ponas: indeed
14:46<scotti>cali is expensive
14:47<scotti>Woet: less +F is actually better imho
14:47<scotti>http://www.brianstorti.com/stop-using-tail/
14:47<ponas>+1 for less +F
14:48<ponas>or shift+F when inside less
14:48<Woet>scotti: you can have that honest opinion
14:48<ponas>it's just the truth
14:53<dwfreed>*shrug* a lot of it is muscle memory
14:54<scotti>dwfreed: you know
14:54<scotti>Tiger Woods
14:54<dwfreed>I don't see how that's relevant
14:54<scotti>back in the day - late 90s early 2000s
14:54<scotti>completely changed his swing
14:54<scotti>because he needed to adapt
14:54<scotti>he slumped for a bit
14:54<scotti>but he sure did get much much much better
14:55<scotti>dwfreed: are you suggesting that systems administrators shouldn't adapt to changing times ?
14:55<dwfreed>there's nothing wrong with tail -f
14:55<scotti>that we should stick to our roots
15:00<arlen>sometimes yes
15:00<pacian>okays.. thank you for lesson in tail but I already used tail.. the problem is my public key mismatch
15:00<arlen>so fix it
15:00<scotti>lol
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15:08<pacian>sorry was accidently disconnect so I did not see the responses
15:09<pacian>can I remove the user from linode and just start over aagin ?
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15:10<dwfreed>why not just fix the problem?
15:11<pacian>becuase I don't know enough to do so
15:11<dwfreed>no time like the present to learn
15:12<pacian>true but I am in Denmark and I have to go to bed soon
15:12<pacian>ssh pacian@23.239.22.175 Permission denied (publickey).
15:12<pacian>this is my error message
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15:14<dzho>did you get prompted for the passphrase of your private key?
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15:15<pacian>no passphase
15:16<pacian>I try to fix it by regenerating a new key this time without the passphase
15:16<dzho>and where did you generate this key?
15:17<pacian>on my local computer
15:17<dzho>and what did you do with the public key?
15:18<pacian>it resides in the authorize_keys
15:18<dzho>ok, we're getting warmer
15:18<dzho>what os is running on your local computer?
15:18<pacian>linux
15:18<dzho>good
15:18<pacian>ubuntu
15:18<pacian>to be exact
15:19<dzho>incidentally, the file is authorized_keys with a 'd'
15:19<dzho>well, it should be
15:19<pacian>yes sorry
15:19<dzho>not sure if you made a typo in IRC or on your linode
15:19<dzho>and that is in /home/user/.ssh/ ?
15:19<pacian>just a second
15:20<pacian>oops--not there
15:20<dzho>for appropriate values of "user"
15:21<pacian>id_rsa id_rsa.pub
15:21<pacian>are the only files there
15:21<dzho>that should be on the local computer, what of the remote computer?
15:22<pacian>let me check that a second please
15:23<pacian>authorized_keys id_rsa id_rsa.pub known_hosts
15:23<pacian>these are the files on my local computer
15:24<dzho>you need to take the contents of localcomputer:.ssh/id_rsa.pub and put them in remotecomputer:.ssh/authorized_keys
15:24<dzho>where .ssh/ stands for /home/localuser/.ssh/ and /home/remoteuser/.ssh/ respectively.
15:24<pacian>just a second while I do that
15:28<pacian>the last line you wrote, I do not understand
15:28<pacian>english is not primary laguage
15:28<dzho>you generated a key pair.
15:28<dzho>it has two parts: a public part (with .pub) and a private part
15:28<dzho>the private part needs to stay on your local computer
15:29<pacian>hold please
15:29<dzho>the public part you have to put in /home/remoteuser/.ssh/authorized_keys
15:29<dzho>where /home/remoteuser is the home directory on the user on the remote computer
15:29<dzho>it might be /root
15:29<dzho>it might be /home/pacian
15:30<dzho>are you using Ubuntu on the remote computer as well?
15:30<pacian>on the remote site there is no authorized_keys file
15:30<dzho>then your ssh keypair will be of no use to you.
15:30<dzho>you must put it there.
15:30<dzho>or use password authentication
15:31<pacian>yes I am
15:33<pacian>I am using pacian on both computers remote and local computer
15:33<pacian>can I not just start over...
15:33<pacian>this is taking longer than expect
15:34<pacian>hold on...let start again..
15:35<pacian>these are the files on the local computer
15:35<pacian>authorized_keys id_rsa id_rsa.pub known_hosts
15:35<pacian>these are the files on the remote computer
15:36<pacian>id_rsa id_rsa.pub
15:36<dzho>on the remote computer you *probably* want to 'mv id_rsa.pub authorized_keys'
15:37<dzho>did you copy those files to the remote computer, or generate them in place?
15:37<pacian>generated them in place
15:37<dzho>oh, then they are not of any use
15:38<pacian>okay..
15:38<dzho>Starting over doesn't help us if you don't understand what I'm saying anyway.
15:39<pacian>the instruction on linode sucks and I honestly tried to follwo the instructions as best as I could
15:39<dzho>what instructions?
15:40<pacian>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
15:41<dzho>this is the key line that seems not to have been done: scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub example_user@203.0.113.10:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
15:42<pacian>that seems to be for the Mac OS
15:42<dzho>or I guess in your case ssh-copy-id example_user@203.0.113.10
15:43<dzho>at the top of that section it says "This is done on your local computer, not your Linode"
15:43<pacian>okay...
15:43<dwfreed>the command is the same regardless of OS; OS X doesn't ship with ssh-copy-id, which is why it says to use scp instead
15:43<dwfreed>but the same scp would work on Linux for a local system too
15:43*dzho nods
15:44<dwfreed>(fun fact: ssh-copy-id is written in shell)
15:44*dzho has never used it
15:45<dzho>that's all a little too turnkey magic for me.
15:45<pacian> scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub example_user@23.239.22.175:~/.ssh/authorized_keys Permission denied (publickey). lost connection
15:46<pacian>I honestly think it best I start from scratch..
15:46<dzho>is your user really "example_user"?
15:46<dzho>I thought it was pacian
15:46<dwfreed>^ and you need to adjust your sshd_config to allow password logins again temporarily
15:46<pacian>right.. I am getting tired
15:46<dzho>that too probably
15:47<pacian>scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub pacian@23.239.22.175:~/.ssh/authorized_keys Permission denied (publickey). lost connection
15:48<dwfreed>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server#ssh-daemon-options undo step 2
15:48<pacian>on the local or remote side
15:48<dwfreed>on your Linode
15:48<dwfreed>and then do step 4
15:49*dzho nods
15:55<pacian>sshd_config change and ssh restarted next please
15:55<dwfreed>run the scp again
15:57<pacian>from the linode or the local
15:58<pacian>never mind figured it out .. ran from local per instructions and it ran successfully..
16:00<dzho>\o/
16:00<dzho>dwfreed++
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17:43<phlux>........
17:45<Celti>If the internet is a series of tubes, then shouldn't onion routing be more properly called scallion routing?
17:50<Zimsky>please leave now.
17:50<Zimsky>your time is up
17:51<shentino>...
17:51<shentino>Boooooo
17:52<Zimsky>you too
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19:03<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • CAA type DNS records <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12510&p=73437#p73437>
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19:22<Peng>My crappy ISP: "The national backbone of our network already supports routing IPv6 traffic. We anticipate that dual stacking will be available in early 2017."
19:23*Peng screams
19:23<Peng>Their website didn't even mention IPv6 for years \o/
19:23<Peng>Wait a minute, it's May!
19:23<Peng>Early 2017 is almost over
19:24<arlen>\o/
19:25<arlen>I still don't have IPv6 even though Comcast has supposedly finished deployment
19:25<Peng>:X
19:28<arlen>Peng: let's start an isp. it'll be so much fun
19:30*Peng shivers
19:31<Peng>Comcast's lawyers are researching how to file a frivolous lawsuit against is already
19:32<dwfreed>arlen: when I last looked (somewhere between 2012 and 2013), if you had a Linux machine directly attached to a plain cable modem (not their crappy routers), you'd get a single address via SLAAC; you could request a block for your network using DHCPv6 PD
19:34<dwfreed>my friend on a Comcast Business connection has one of their crappy routers; it takes care of IPv6 for him
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19:40<arlen>dwfreed: I got an address once when they were doing maintenance last year but nothing since
19:40<Peng>D:
19:41<arlen>using my own modem, and whenever I try calling to talk to support they won't pass me through saying my modem isn't supported
19:42<dwfreed>use rdisc6 to send router solicitations?
19:42<arlen>but it is, and the website they link for supported modems has mine listed
19:42<dwfreed>see what comes back
19:42<arlen>hmm
19:44<arlen>try it when I get home
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20:00<Peng>It's possible my ISP actually would give me IPv6 if i configured my router to check
20:00<Peng>:O
20:00<Peng>Is everyone on DSL Reports a jerk, or is it only in the IPv6 threads? :P
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20:11<dzho>yeah, I'm in the "early 2017 is already over" camp.
20:11<dzho>We're squarely at the start of mid 2017
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23:14<overbilly>i have a question about my nginx web
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23:14<arlen>!ask
23:14<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
23:14<overbilly>i migrate my wordpress web from bluehost shared host to linode vps with centos6.8
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23:15<Alex_>Hallo
23:15<arlen>ok
23:15<overbilly>and now i can't access my web page www.overbilly.com
23:15<Alex_>hello
23:15<arlen>hi
23:15<overbilly>403 forbidden
23:15<overbilly>Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
23:15<arlen>check your logs
23:16<overbilly>would you tell me how to do it ?the path
23:16<Alex_>i have used the Linode before, but i have forgotten which email and username i had, how can i find this information back? Because the Linode keep deducting the fee from my credit card
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23:16<overbilly>i am not familar with linux
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23:17<dwfreed>Alex_: email support@linode.com, and they can give you this information
23:17<Alex_>thanks!
23:17<@nbrewer>^ include the last six digits of your card so they can find your account.
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