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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-05-13

---Logopened Sat May 13 00:00:48 2017
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00:24<JamesTK>Does linode spec new servers out with a terabyte of ram?
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00:27<dcraig>at least
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00:34<JamesTK>dcraig: to go with the 48 physical cores
00:34<JamesTK>or so
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01:32<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • SSL CRS VS CRT <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14795&p=73485#p73485> || Web Servers and Web App Development • I have a server that uses PHPMailer, is it safe to use it or I will finish in a RBL? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14546&p=73484#p73484>
01:42<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Forward emails without hosting a mail server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14786&p=73487#p73487> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Google apps email <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14734&p=73486#p73486>
01:52<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • CAA type DNS records <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12510&p=73491#p73491> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Forward emails without hosting a mail server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14786&p=73490#p73490> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Feature request: anycast DNS for Linode's nameservers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10896&p=73489#p73489> || Linux Networ
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03:18<dcraig>JamesTK do you have a healthy core?
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04:02<dcraig>your silence speaks volumes
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04:32<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • CAA type DNS records <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12510&p=73493#p73493>
04:40<TonPseudo2>price ips and max ips on linode?
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04:46<millisa>!ip
04:46<millisa>!ips
04:46<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
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06:47<JamesTK>Each linode comes with 1 millisa and one dcraig. Additional millisa's are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 dcraig can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
06:49<Cromulent>my ISP doesn't support dcraigs
06:50<JamesTK>Should switch
06:51<JamesTK>My mobile isp is switching to single stack dcraig soon
06:52<Cromulent>really? That sounds premature
06:52<dwfreed>NAT64
06:52<Cromulent>oh
06:53<dwfreed>T-Mobile in the US uses 464XLAT when the phone supports it
06:55<JamesTK>yeah, NAT64
06:55<JamesTK>I have a cute doggo
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08:13<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Nginx Nodebalancer <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14796&p=73494#p73494>
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08:23<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Forward emails without hosting a mail server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14786&p=73495#p73495>
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08:55<sourav>hi
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09:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • root/users accounts locked/disabled every reboot? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14789&p=73446#p73446>
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09:49<Danny_Do>please help me answer this question
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09:52<Danny_Do>Maybe my English not good,so please understanding
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11:14<Talha_K>Hi .... on linode guidline https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/lamp/lamp-on-ubuntu-14-04 .... values are suggested for 2GB linode for /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_prefork.conf file
11:14<Talha_K>can someone suggest values for 8GB linode for same purpose?
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11:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linux kernel config/source <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14793&p=73476#p73476> || Linux Networking • Firewalld fails to reload rules on Centos7 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14433&p=73459#p73459> || Sales Questions and Answers • -DELETE- <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14784&p=73433#p73433> || Web Servers and Web App Development • bootstrap <https://forum.lin
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11:34<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Canada based Linodes <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11309&p=73436#p73436>
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12:19<agenciamultimid>Hi
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12:20<linbot>hello
12:20<agenciamultimid>I'm having trouble activating my account.
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12:21<maarten2>hey
12:21<maarten2>question about linode, is it possible to limit traffic to your machine? So you can't get bill shocked?
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12:22<agenciamultimid>I received the email for payment confirmation. But my account has not yet activated
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12:31<dwfreed>maarten2: you have full root access, so you can apply outbound limiting however you'd like
12:31<dwfreed>(inbound is free)
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12:35<maarten2>dwfreed, i am a linux admin, but i wouldnt know how to do that
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12:37<dwfreed>maarten2: fwiw, Linode will automatically email you when your Linode has used 80% of its transfer quota by default (note that this does not take into account the transfer pooling that happens when you have multiple Linodes)
12:37<@caker>you can set up email alerts (Linode -> Settings tab) and a threshold to email you
12:37<dwfreed>you can adjust the threshold from the settings tab, as caker just said
12:37<@caker>right - they're already set by default to 80% quota
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13:43<thelinodeman>hey guys, first time installing an ssl on a domain. One tutorial I followed creates a crs file, another tutorial creates a crt file.
13:43<thelinodeman>Whats the difference between the two?
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13:43<dwfreed>links would be helpful
13:44<dwfreed>(because on UNIX-based systems like Linux, extensions don't mean anything)
13:44<Peng>Do you mean crs or csr?
13:44<grawity>to the OS they don't
13:44<grawity>to the user they usually do
13:44<dwfreed>grawity: :P
13:44<dwfreed>I give all my files the extension .potato
13:45<grawity>although to be fair .crt/.cer/.pem is a mess anyway
13:45<dwfreed>except for the file called "4"
13:45<thelinodeman>I will follow this one instead: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/obtaining-a-commercial-ssl-certificate
13:45<grawity>.csr is a "certificate request"
13:45<grawity>almost like an unsigned certificate
13:46<Peng>How about Let's Encrypt?
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13:54<Cromulent>yeah Let's Encrypt would be the best option
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19:20<ricey>hi all
19:21<ricey>I'm new to VM webhosting, and trying to help out my girlfriend who works for a company who's website is hosted on a linode VM
19:21<ricey>I've SSH'd into the server and I'm trying to check / configure FTP access to give to webdevelopers
19:21<ricey>how do I go about e.g. listing existing FTP accounts on the server?
19:23<dcraig>a lot of this would be specific to how your server was initially set up
19:23<ricey>which I know nothing about
19:23<arlen>and hopefully it doesn't have any ftp accounts
19:23<ricey>unfortunately
19:24<arlen>because ftp shouldn't be used anymore
19:24<ricey>could you elaborate? are you differentiating between FTP & SFTP?
19:24<Peng>yes
19:25<dcraig>you might start by figuring out which web server software you're using, then take a look at the configuration files for that server, and determine where the website content is stored
19:25<ricey>so AFAIK, some other web developer configured this server initially and has abandoned the project / company
19:25<dcraig>and then you can figure out how to access those files with SFTP or whatever
19:26<ricey>ok, so back to basics - how do I go about getting the server to list the running processes?
19:26<dcraig>see if "ps aux | grep apache" turns up anything
19:26<dcraig>or maybe replace apache with nginx
19:30<dcraig>if the website files exist under a user account (like in /home/user), you might be able to already access those files with SFTP using that username
19:30<dcraig>might need to set a new password...
19:31*ricey is reading 'man ps'
19:32<ricey>thanks for your help guys - I'm a complete VM newb - nice to be learning
19:33<dcraig>https://www.linode.com/docs/
19:33<ricey>'ps aux | grep apache' returned a dozen or so lines like 'www-data 2070 0.5 5.8 235356 59016 ? S 23:16 0:04 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start'
19:33<dcraig>sounds like you're running apache
19:33<ricey>I'm trying to figure out the meanings of the columns at the moment
19:33<dcraig>all you need to know for now is that the lines exist
19:33<dcraig>have a look in /etc/apache
19:33<ricey>i presume the first column is the owner of the process
19:33<dcraig>/etc/apache2
19:34<dcraig>maybe even /etc/apache2/sites-available
19:35<dcraig>the configuration files for your websites might be living in there
19:36<ricey>I've found /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-available
19:37<dcraig>mght actually be best to start with /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
19:37<ricey>sites-available contains directories 'default' and 'default-ssl'
19:38<dcraig>those might actually be files you can open and read
19:39<ricey>ls -la for sites-enabled looks like 'lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Aug 2 2014 000-default -> ../sites-available/default'
19:39<ricey>is that a sym link?
19:39<dcraig>try "nano default"
19:39<dcraig>yup
19:39<dcraig>or "nano 000-default" if you're in the other folder...
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19:43<ricey>i see an XML? configuration file with top level tag <VirtualHost *:80>
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19:44<ricey>it seems to primarily specify various directories
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19:46<dcraig>how about one that starts with DocumentRoot?
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19:46<ricey>indeed, document root is /var/www
19:47<dcraig>perhaps /var/www contains your website files
19:47<ricey>for which the configuration is Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
19:47<ricey> AllowOverride All
19:47<ricey> Order allow,deny
19:47<ricey> allow from all
19:48<ricey>yes, that looks about right /var/www contains a wordpress installation
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19:50<ricey>although just the core php files - no large assets etc.
19:51<dcraig>you might need to figure out how it's all set up :D
19:51<dcraig>are you able to log in to the wordpress site as an admin or whatever?
19:52<ricey>yes, the WP installation is functional and I believe I have administrative credentials
19:58<ricey>hrm... seems I don't in fact have a valid login for wp-admin
19:58<ricey>I might have to go back and ask for that, but seems my girlfriend may have gone to sleep already
19:59<dcraig>there is probably a way to reset the admin user/pass
19:59<dcraig>I'm not a wordpress expert...
19:59<ricey>this all came about because the WP install was asking for SFTP credentials (I believe to install / modify a plugin)
19:59<ricey>and because another web developer who is providing content for the site wants to upload his CSS files to web root etc.
20:00<ricey>but no-one knows SFTP credentials for the server
20:00<dcraig>how are you currently accessing the server?
20:00<ricey>so I thought I'd be helpful and try and figure out what they are +/ create an appropriate SFTP user
20:00<ricey>SSH
20:00<dcraig>via a root account or something else?
20:00<ricey>root
20:01<dcraig>you might want to create a new non-root user
20:01<dcraig>and allow that user to read/write the website files in /var/www
20:01<ricey>by user you mean FTP user, or SSH user?
20:02<dcraig>though there is sort of a "convenience vs. security" thing here...
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20:03<dcraig>generally SSH users can log in via SFTP and access their files
20:03<dcraig>without setting up anything extra
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20:03<ricey>ok
20:03<dcraig>they could also log in via SSH, like you are doing now
20:03<dcraig>and edit only the files to which you've given them access
20:07<ricey>thanks for talking me through it all dcraig :)
20:07<ricey>so I do have access to the WP installation as admin
20:08<ricey>the password for that was the same as the root SSH password, which seems like a potential security vulnerability?
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20:08<dcraig>well, it's certainly convenient :D
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20:09<dcraig>https://linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
20:09<dcraig>might be a good read
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20:12<ricey>thanks - very helpful
20:13<dcraig>now that you're playing with things, this might be a great time to sign up for linode backups
20:13<dcraig>that way when you screw it all up, you can go back to yesterday's setup :p
20:14<ricey>haha
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20:16<ricey>looks like they're already going
20:16<dcraig>nice
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20:17<ricey>https://manager.linode.com/linodes/backups/ lists a daily backup history for at least the last week
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20:19<dcraig>it has started to hail...
20:20<dcraig>!wx khio
20:20<linbot>dcraig: [metar] OBS at KHIO: 53.6F/12C, visibility 10 miles, wind 5.75 mph, chill 52.07F (altimeter: 29.99) [KHIO 132353Z 06005KT 10SM BKN030 OVC060 12/07 A2999 RMK AO2 RAE02 SLP156 P0000]
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21:18<ricey>thanks a lot for your help dcraig. I'm off to bed, but I'm sure I'll be back around here...
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22:40<root__>set user me
22:40<root__>help
22:40<dwfreed>try with a /
22:41<dwfreed>eg, /set user me
22:41<root__>oh
22:41<root__>someone here
22:41<root__>i'll be back
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22:44<the450man>Hey, im having issues with setting up SSL on my site.
22:44<Guest32>hey
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22:45<the450man>https://pastebin.com/zGQhiYWC
22:45<the450man>I get three errors. One is verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
22:46<Guest32>wait
22:46<the450man>my .conf file has the correct file paths for the certs.
22:47<Guest32>try to type the correct words
22:48<Guest32>and update your gnome version
22:48<the450man>what words are not correct?
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