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02:15<dcraig>bae don't know she getting a linode
02:17<dcraig>a Linode 60 is a high memory plan, but a Linode 64 is a low memory plan
02:17<dcraig>does this make any sense to anyone???
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02:22<arlen>yes
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02:26*dcraig tickles arlen around a bit with a large riffle dace
02:26<arlen>:)
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02:33<arlen>dcraig: how's life
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02:34<yoplayas>if I follow some digitalocean tutorials for setting up node/express, will I end up with the same results in linode? given that I'm using the right linux distro?
02:35<dcraig>I can't imagine why not
02:35<yoplayas>that's what I thought too, sorry, first time hosting, just trying to push everything on my computer to production
02:36<dcraig>be sure to add a comment to the tutorial: "Works great on Linode!"
02:36<yoplayas>;D
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02:37<FluffyFoxeh>lol
02:38<JG>Does Linode do a DoD wipe when you delete a linode?
02:38<Zimsky>probably not
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02:39<Zimsky>I doubt it's worth their resources to bother doing that
02:39<Zimsky>not to mention, if that's your concern, you shouldn't be using this type of host anyway
02:40<JG>It's fairly common. softlayer does it
02:40<JG>just cant find any reference on the site
02:41<Ikaros>"fairly common"...you mention Softlayer, but you do realize of course the platform is different than that of Linode.
02:41<Zimsky>well, softlayer is weird
02:41<dcraig>maybe you want this thing...
02:41<dcraig>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/full-disk-encryption
02:42<Ikaros>Zimsky the question is, is there really any need to do that
02:42<Zimsky>Ikaros: call softlayer weird?
02:42<Ikaros>No
02:42*dcraig tickles ikaros around a bit with a large seatrout
02:42<Zimsky>or DoD-compliant disk erasure
02:42<Ikaros>^
02:43<Ikaros>I for one am not the least bit concerned about old data being salvaged/accessed after I've removed a disk image and/or the attached Linode.
02:43<JG>Thanks, that's an interesting option
02:44<Ikaros>But yeah if you're looking for security, you can take a look at that JG
02:44<FluffyFoxeh>Ikaros: is that because you encrypt it all or because you simply don't care
02:44<FluffyFoxeh>I myself lean toward the don't care side
02:45<dcraig>also there's this thing: https://www.linode.com/compliance
02:45<FluffyFoxeh>the risk is pretty small
02:45<FluffyFoxeh>tiny even
02:46<JG>Anytime you see HIPAA you know they take things serious
02:46<Ikaros>FluffyFoxeh: I don't really care.
02:47<JG>thanks
02:47<Ikaros>As personally I'm not doing anything sensitive that I'd have to be worried about being accessed after I've deleted the image.
02:47<FluffyFoxeh>mm
02:48<FluffyFoxeh>the most sensitive thing on mine would probably be the IRC logs
02:49<Celti>Anything sensitive on my Linode is encrypted, which is mostly just the my password store git repo.
02:49<Ikaros>Besides, if I REALLY wanted to bomb the image I could probably do it from within.
02:49<JG>well, true. you could
02:49<FluffyFoxeh>they're SSD backed so I'm not sure about that
02:49<yoplayas>is there any reason to mess with my A/AAAA Records, or is default ok?
02:50<Ikaros>That's the other thing you have to be concerned with JG is these are solid state-backed hosts, doing that sort of operation on it may not even be...what's the best word for it..
02:51<Ikaros>I'll just leave it at 'ideal'
02:51<JG>yeah
02:51<dcraig>give me a break :p
02:51*Ikaros hands dcraig a Kit-Kat
02:51*FluffyFoxeh gives dcraig a Kit Kat
02:51<FluffyFoxeh>hahahahahaha
02:51<dcraig>thx!
02:51<Ikaros>HAHAHAHA
02:52<yoplayas>:O
02:52<Ikaros>Well I'm glad SOMEBODY remembered that jingle
02:52<dcraig>there's nothing prohibiting you from writing to your disk (a lot)
02:52<Ikaros><yoplayas> is there any reason to mess with my A/AAAA Records, or is default ok? <- Depends what you want to do with your domain, really.
02:52<FluffyFoxeh>dcraig: but doing so won't necessarily overwrite the data you think it will :p
02:53<dcraig>mind blown
02:53<yoplayas>just trying to push my local environment to production, it includes node/express and uses sockets.io
02:53<dcraig>2fluffy4me
02:54<yoplayas>the rest is all static pages (albeit has passport.js for authentication)
02:55<JG>alright, well thank you guys all for the info.
02:55<yoplayas>i'd imagine my set up is pretty "default"
02:55<dcraig>love this guy
02:55<dcraig>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1zzna-dNw
02:55<Ikaros>JG no problem
02:55<FluffyFoxeh>node.io.js.technology.xyz.io
02:56<yoplayas>brahs, I'm not a web developer.. the most I knew before last month was from when I was 14 years old (javascript,css,html)
02:57<yoplayas>i'm more of a trey davis guy, rather than the guy in the aforementioned video
02:58<yoplayas>does linode run temple os environment?
02:58<dcraig>temple run os
03:02<yoplayas>is everyone here in asia? why are you guys up so late
03:02<dcraig>it's only midnight here
03:03<yoplayas>ooo, west coast living
03:03<FluffyFoxeh>3am here and I'm a night owl
03:03<dcraig>west side!
03:03<dcraig>fluffy go to bed
03:03<yoplayas>:D
03:03<FluffyFoxeh>night fox as it were
03:03<FluffyFoxeh>:p
03:04<FluffyFoxeh>Yes I should go to bed now
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03:06<yoplayas>setting this stuff up is kind of hard, do you guys do this stuff for work?
03:07<dcraig>no
03:07<yoplayas>neat
03:07<dcraig>lol
03:08<yoplayas>was only wondering since we're in #linode
03:09<dcraig>whoops I think I'm in the wrong channel
03:09<yoplayas>ha
03:10<Zimsky>Ikaros: the key is still stored in memory though
03:10<Zimsky>so FDE on a host you don't control is still pointless
03:10<Zimsky>you're relying on the notion that the host won't dump the memory of the VM, extract the key and store it for later
03:11<Ikaros>True, but again, not like I can't bomb the disk device from within it.
03:11<Zimsky>if you want true security for your server(s), run your own DC
03:11<Zimsky>JG: ^
03:11<Ikaros>But that takes money
03:12<Zimsky>price of security
03:12<Ikaros>Oh for every time I've heard THAT
03:12<Ikaros>The person or entity saying it has been slapped
03:12<Zimsky>also, a DC could just be a rack in the corner of your bedroom on a res connection
03:12<dcraig>I'd host a server in Ikaros's basement
03:13*Ikaros sneaks malware on to it
03:13<Ikaros>:P
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03:13<Zimsky>why would you need to sneak it on there?
03:13<Zimsky>it's in your basement
03:13<Zimsky>just wait until dcraig leaves
03:13<Ikaros>Hah
03:13<Zimsky>or tell him to get off your property or you'll go american on him
03:14<Ikaros>What, beat his face in with a bat?
03:14<Knofte>For the managed linodes, is there any chance to get help with migrating cpanel from previous hosting in to the managed linode hosting?
03:17<Zimsky>Ikaros: actually http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2014/02/wpid-Photo-Feb-17-2014-225-PM.jpg
03:18<Ikaros>O....k
03:18<arlen>Knofte: yup
03:19<Ikaros>I may not be able to properly wrap my head around the meaning of that, probably 'cause I just finished a 13 hour shift and have yet to actually get any sleep thereafter...
03:19<Zimsky>Ikaros: if you don't get it, you're thicker than a 0G cable
03:19<Knofte>arlen: perfect! Cheers
03:19<Zimsky>oh god so meta
03:19<arlen>pew pew pew pew
03:19<Zimsky>if you didn't get /that/, look up wire gauges
03:20<Ikaros>Not off the top of my head is what I meant, Zimsky
03:20<Zimsky>perhaps you should look inside your head
03:20<Zimsky>not off the top
03:20<arlen>Knofte: enjoy!
03:20<Zimsky>you'll only find hair follicles
03:20<Ikaros>Then again my thought processes are not exactly firing on all cylinders at the moment.
03:20<Zimsky>or sadness and despair, assuming you might be bald
03:20<Ikaros>No, not bald
03:21<Ikaros>But if my father was any indication...well...
03:21<Ikaros>Probably be looking at a horseshoe later in life
03:21<Ikaros>>.>
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03:22<arlen>rip Ikaros hair
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03:22<Ikaros>Damn you hereditary traits!
03:22<Ikaros>DAMN YOU I SAY
03:22<arlen>ikr
03:22<Ikaros>I also inherited his tendency for high blood pressure
03:23<yoplayas>i'm looking at low blood pressure with a chromedome
03:23<arlen>my dad has anger issues and high blood pressure
03:23<Ikaros>As do I
03:23<arlen>thankfully skipped a generation
03:23<yoplayas>riiiight
03:23<Ikaros>My temper can kinda fly off the handle sometimes, online and offline
03:23<arlen>oh we know
03:23<arlen><3
03:24<Ikaros>Like the other day on IRC elsewhere, an argument between a channel admin (myself) and a voiced user. Expletives flew in public, and it was back and forth for a good hour.
03:25<Ikaros>Eventually founder was like 'just shut the eff up both of you'
03:26<Ikaros>At which point other user was like "how the hell did he not kickban me that entire time"
03:27<Ikaros>Overstress + temper? Probably.
03:27<Ikaros>But be honest, wouldn't that be a cause for concern if someone who so easily flies off the handle (compared to normal people) had such a high level of access in a given channel?
03:28<Ikaros>'I don't agree with you' *permban*
03:28<yoplayas>if you didn't ban him than I think everyone can appreciate it
03:29<Ikaros>Well the problem was the dispute itself should have never been public to begin with.
03:29<Ikaros>I had every reason to remove him by force.
03:29<yoplayas>oh well, it was probably entertaining to the onlookers
03:30<Ikaros>But at the same time I probably realized that in the end that really doesn't resolve it
03:30<Ikaros>I rid myself of the problem but I don't fix the issue
03:30<Ikaros>And that probably would have come back to bite me in the ass
03:31<Ikaros>The internet being what it is
03:31<yoplayas>nothing like being on an island bros
03:31<arlen>whenever I start to get angry I just think, will this accomplish anything. nope 🤙🏻
03:31<yoplayas>drinking coconut water out of a 2 gallon
03:32<Ikaros>I suppose what else probably complicated things was the fact that channel status wasn't the only thing I held, I also hold a high-level oper status on the network that channel sits on.
03:32<yoplayas>ha
03:32<Ikaros>It would have made me look even worse if chose to act
03:32<Ikaros>if I chose*
03:33<Ikaros>As if it wasn't already bad enough we were verbally bashing eachother's heads in, in a public channel.
03:33<yoplayas>game of thrones tier
03:35<Knofte>How do you select a linode to become "managed" ?
03:36<Knofte>ah nevermind
03:36<yoplayas>https://www.linode.com/managed ?
03:36<arlen>managed is account wide just fyi
03:36<Knofte>needs to be done under account-settings, not under individual linode.
03:36<Knofte>arlen: understood
03:40<Knofte>arlen: however - "Yes. If you are running more than one Linode, not all are required to be managed."
03:40<Meyer__>Knofte: you need multiple accounts in that case afaik
03:40<Knofte>Meyer__: oh, that's retarted tbh :)
03:40<arlen>maybe they changed it
03:41<arlen>maybe open a ticket
03:41<Knofte>wonder when they'll have livechat.
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03:53<Celti>Who needs livechat, we have IRC!
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03:55<Ikaros>I like IRC a bit better.
03:55<Ikaros>'cause then you can get input from more than one person.
04:02<arlen>and become a nerd family
04:06<yoplayas>when I push stuff to sftp, do I need to mkdir or is /home/user fine?
04:06<yoplayas>through sftp*
04:08<Woet>try it and see
04:09<yoplayas>;D
04:12<Celti>Pushing directly to your home folder *should* be fine, but on general OCD principles I make plenty of directories to sort things.
04:13<yoplayas>yea, looking at my file structures I feel like I made a mistake, my comment was made only after -__-
04:14<yoplayas>directory structure rather
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06:00<yoplayas>so, I'm only able to access my domain, by adding a port to it: for example, www.example.com:8080
06:00<yoplayas>do I need nginx or apache to get around this?
06:01<sandeep>by making your webserver listen on port 80
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06:02<yoplayas>thank you
06:09<yoplayas>iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3000
06:10<yoplayas>got everything to work with this :DD
06:10<Woet>why is it listening on port 3000 in the first place..?
06:11<yoplayas>not sure, that's just how everything got set up with my meme sockets.io plug-in
06:11<Woet>why dont you change it?
06:11<Woet>instead of using iptables
06:11<yoplayas>is iptables bad practice?
06:11<Woet>its like buying a second bike because you got a flat tyre
06:12<Woet>just fix the actual problem
06:12<yoplayas>good avice
06:12<Woet>are you sure its even supposed to be exposed like that?
06:12<yoplayas>advice*
06:12<Woet>usually when it doesnt listen on port 80 by default, it shouldnt be
06:12<yoplayas>does putting on port 3000 expose me?
06:13<Woet>i dont know, thats why im asking.
06:13<Woet>i dont know what you're running
06:13<ponas>best practice is to let the service keep listening at port 3000 and set up nginx to proxy requests on 80 -> 3000
06:13<ponas>or apache
06:13<yoplayas>it's just a simple chat room
06:13<yoplayas>thank you ponas
06:14<Woet>no problem
06:14<yoplayas>:D
06:14<yoplayas>def going to have to second this being better than a tech support chat
06:15<yoplayas>honestly, haven't use irc since the cs 1.6 pub scrimmages
06:15<yoplayas>used*
06:15<Woet>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37929173/significance-of-port-3000-in-express-apps
06:33<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Disk Size <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14700&p=73503#p73503>
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08:05<yoplayas>i'm not really sure what to search for on google: i've got a server running by ssh, and then using a "node app" command.. however whenever I exit out of my ssh session the server crashes
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08:07<ponas>yoplayas: your app will continue running as long as the terminal session is active. look into something like supervisor or forever.js: http://stackoverflow.com/a/12949606
08:08<yoplayas>thank you!
08:12<webvictim>alternatively use screen/tmux
08:13<webvictim>much lower effort but less production-ready
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08:37<milosvucinic>hey there
08:37<milosvucinic>Can anybody tell me how can I purchase one more Hard drive at linode ?
08:37<milosvucinic>I need 10 GB's
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08:39<milosvucinic>Can anybody tell me how can I purchase one more Hard drive at linode ? I need 10 GB's
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08:45<Peng>D:
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08:51<fffoua>hallo?
08:51<Peng>Hello
08:51<fffoua>@admin
08:51<dzho>!to fffoua ops
08:52<linbot>fffoua: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
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08:52<fffoua>thank
08:53<Woet> you'r welcom
08:54<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Let's Encrypt! setup: Failed to connect... <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14790&p=73452#p73452>
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09:49<yoplayas>well guys, i've got everything set up... thanks for the help today
09:52<dzho>\o/
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10:35<saf>hi there, i had a question about linode, hoping someone can answer
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10:36<saf>can i host a nodejs server here, along with python scripts running in the background? also need a DB, preferably mysql
10:38<@mcintosh>you can definitely host all of those things
10:38<saf>is there a free or trial package for uni students?
10:40<@mcintosh>no, but you can use the promo code LINODE10 for a $10 bonus credit when you signup
10:41<saf>thanks!but you still have to pay for a plan is that right?
10:43<Peng>Yes. But it's a $10 discount (total, not per month).
10:44<saf>thanks guys.. appreciate it
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10:45<Peng>:(
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10:46<monday12>hello
10:46<monday12>please can anybody help with my linode
10:46<monday12>service
10:46<monday12>httpd is not starting
10:46<monday12>in my root account
10:46<ponas>what do the httpd logs say
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10:47<monday12>can not start apachi webserver
10:47<monday12>am new in using it
10:50<ponas>monday12: what does it say when you try to start apache?
10:52<monday12>NOW IS NOT OPENING AGAIN
10:52<monday12>IF I WANT TO LOGIN
10:52<monday12>http://139.162.132.19:2030/
10:54<ponas>this is not helping us help you. we need error messages, logs or similar
10:54<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73505#p73505>
10:56<monday12>Page not found UC's connection attempt to this site was rejected. The website may be down or your network may not be properly configured. Here are some suggestions: Reload (F5) Check network settings ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
10:58<ponas>monday12: https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-common-apache-issues
10:58<ponas>read the part about "Checking the logs"
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11:06<linbot>New news from status: Internet Edge Router Software Upgrade - London <https://status.linode.com/incidents/yblt4c26q09x> || Core Router Software Upgrade - London <https://status.linode.com/incidents/dby1xlqyh8zf>
11:15<monday12>Apache Webserver httpd is stopped
11:17<monday12>Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 59 of /usr/local/apache/conf.d/vhosts.conf: The address or port is invalid [FAILED]
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11:31<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
11:34<veecious>lies! you weren't here yesterday
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12:16<trippeh>woo secondary gigabit home internet connection is lit up >:)
12:16<trippeh>moar is better
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12:19<Peng>Can i live in your attic
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12:30<Zimsky>Peng: sure
12:30<Zimsky>┐(◉‿ ◉;)┌
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12:59<Eugene>.....secondary?
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13:07<dwfreed>Eugene: yeah, you know, in case the first one goes down
13:07<Eugene>I want to know in what utopia he lives where there are two Gigabit providers
13:08<Eugene>I can't even get that in my apartment(only one Cat5 from the building's wiring closet)
13:08<dwfreed>iirc, it was one of the nordic countries
13:09<dwfreed>don't remember if it was norway or sweden
13:09<Eugene>Of course
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13:14<trippeh>I could light up one more
13:16<dwfreed>oh, github says Oslo, Norway
13:18<trippeh>I'm just testing this new provider out though
13:21<Peng>In America you're lucky if you have one provider you can choose from withou testing them first
13:21<Peng>I don';t mean one gigabit provider. I mean one provider.
13:22<trippeh>one real provider is not *that* unusual around here either
13:26<trippeh>35% of internet subs have FTTH/FTTP in .no, but open/multi-provider networks are still kinda rare
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13:36<trippeh>haha jeez, this new isp is completely tanking on fast.com
13:36<trippeh>28Mbps!
13:37<dwfreed>I'll trade you
13:37<dwfreed>I top out at 5 Mbps
13:37<trippeh>the other ISP is at ~900Mbps on fast.com
13:38<dwfreed>(I live in the middle of absolute nowhere; I'm lucky to *have* internet capable of even those speeds)
13:40<Peng>I could *get* a halfway decent connection; i just choose not to
13:40<dwfreed>I mean, I used to give Comcast a gold bar every month; then I had a decent connection
13:40<Peng>:D
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13:41<Peng>...
13:41<@caker>+++ ATH NO CARRIER
13:41<trippeh>RIP
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14:02<zifnab>Eugene: we've got 2
14:02<zifnab>centurylink offers fiber as well here
14:02<Eugene>zifnab - Cat5 lines? I don't
14:02<Eugene>Only one drop in my closet, so can't use them
14:03<zifnab>Eugene: they use the fiber
14:03<Eugene>.....which I cut
14:03<zifnab>which you cut off
14:03<zifnab>yeah
14:03<Eugene>Heh
14:03<zifnab>your fault
14:03<zifnab>there's also comcast over coax
14:03<Eugene>In fairness, it was a really big cable and I wouldn't have been able to fit the UPS in the box
14:03<zifnab>which caps out at 500mbit?
14:04<zifnab>i'm wrong, 105
14:04<zifnab>wow
14:04<Eugene>They definitely sell 150mbps for commercial
14:04<dwfreed>they offer 300 Mbit service in certain areas over coax
14:05<Eugene>Yeah, DOCSIS something-something. You need to have the cable box right at your lawn for it to work well
14:05<dwfreed>and I think the 2 Gbit service is last-foot coax
14:05<Eugene>Its pointless without a business grade line anyway; consumer grade accounts get warned at 1TB of transfer per month
14:06<Eugene>Maybe after net non-neutraility passes you will be able to buy a 100GB coupon for $10
14:06<dwfreed>you can pay $50/mo for unlimited transfer
14:06<dwfreed>(as a consumer)
14:06<Eugene>I'll deal with that next month after moving
14:07<Eugene>And probably will still end up buying a business line for myself, because work-from-home and expenses
14:07<dwfreed>meh, I don't see the cost of a business line being worth it, since it comes with a bunch of things you'll never use
14:09<Eugene>Its worth it to me just for the handling when I call in. They don't try to upsell you TV and you get priority dispatch for trucks
14:09<Eugene>I deal with them at $DAYJOB
14:09<dwfreed>I don't think I've ever bothered to call comcast
14:10<dwfreed>outages never last very long, if they even ever happen
14:10<Eugene>For a single line, sure. I supervise several dozen, and it is a rare day that they are all online all the time
14:17<zifnab>finding old server files, not fun
14:18<zifnab>dux/spork/forkchop/orange/achilles/weathertop/project/file
14:24*Zimsky explodes
14:25<zifnab>i'm finally setting up s3 backups
14:25<zifnab>get over it :P
14:25*Zimsky builds a bridge
14:25<Zimsky>oh no it crumbled under its own weight because I'm not a structural engineer :(
14:25<Peng>Have you seen S3 transfer prices?
14:26<Zimsky>wait, if I make it out of biological assays, it'll work
14:27<zifnab>Peng: backups though
14:27<zifnab>Peng: long term storage of maybe 100gb of shit i care about?
14:27<Zimsky>tape drives man
14:27<Peng>zifnab: Part of the point of backups is restoring :P
14:28*Zimsky backs up Peng
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14:28<Zimsky>s/accidentally/*accidentally*/
14:28<Peng>I was stored in Standard - Infrequent Access! You're still liable for 30 days of storage payments!
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14:29<zifnab>Peng: 0.09/gb is fine
14:29<zifnab>my 'backups' normally consist of old data i may or may not care about
14:29<zifnab>example: python app i wrote for a company that went under that i kept
14:29<zifnab>i (occasionaly) care about something in it, like i did 30 minutes ago
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14:36<Zimsky>why on earth would you pay for storage like that though
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14:36<Peng>Storage like what?
14:36<Zimsky>like putting cows in the shed
14:36<Zimsky>¿
14:37<Zimsky>no, amazon s3 for backups that don't really matter
14:37<Celti>At least use Backblaze B2. Much more reasonably priced.
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14:37<Zimsky>just gpg encrypt the data and write it to n hdds where n=the number of fucks you give
14:38<Zimsky>scatter those hdds around various places you know they'll be moderately safe
14:38*Celti currently relies on Linode for backups of anything worth saving.
14:38<Peng>Zimsky: just post it on usenet
14:39<Celti>Nextcloud to my Linode, then Linode backups back it up from there.
14:39<Zimsky>Peng, maybe even geocities
14:45<zifnab>Peng: have to have a usenet provider that has a decent rentention though
14:45<zifnab>self-erasing backups though, i like it
14:45<Peng>You can set S3 to self-erase, and i don't just mean when your credit card is declined :P
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14:46<zifnab>Celti: how's b2's redundancy set up?
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14:46<zifnab>i know backblaze likes talking about shit, can't find any docs though
14:47<zifnab>i'm assuming its on the same pods/vaults
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14:57<Celti>AFAIK B2 is the same hardware as their normal backup service
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15:10<@mcintosh>Eugene: around?
15:18<cbirk>he's actually pretty thin
15:18<cbirk>RUDE
15:19<Eugene>I wish. Still too close to 200lb for my comfort
15:21<Eugene>Oooh, I see the ticket update. I'll try it out!
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15:21<Eugene>Out of curiousity, what are the allowed characters for a DNS zone now?
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15:22<eagles0513875>hey all
15:22<eagles0513875>how is everyone
15:23<@caker>ascii and punycode , no?
15:23<eagles0513875>hey caker
15:23<Eugene>Well this was a ticket for _ not being allowed ;-)
15:23<eagles0513875>i submitted a ticket about 30 min ago and have not gotten an answer yet
15:23<Eugene>And we had a big discussion a few days ago in here about unicode actually working in DNS(punycode be damned)
15:24<Eugene>Patience is a virtue. Tickets are answered before time is wasted on IRC ;-)
15:25<Eugene>mcintosh - confirmed working
15:25<eagles0513875>Eugene: i know m8 but all my clients are down atm and im not sure what end the issue is from
15:26<@mcintosh>eagles0513875: great :)
15:26<Eugene>Then you should be working through an Outage plan in your ops handbook
15:27<Eugene>Don't have one? Go write one ;-)
15:27<eagles0513875>mcintosh: ?
15:27<dwfreed>mcintosh: tabfail
15:27<eagles0513875>Eugene: i know m8 i need to build resiliance on what i have
15:27<@mcintosh>whoops sorry eagles... wrong person
15:27<Eugene>Nodeblancers are great
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15:31<eagles0513875>mcintosh: its ok
15:32<eagles0513875>Eugene: im kinda cheating the entire system though and using plesk lol
15:32<eagles0513875>if i had everything developed from scratch then maybe just maybe that would work
15:32<Eugene>If you're outsourcing everything then your recourse options are a bit limited heh
15:37<eagles0513875>Eugene: im a one man show
15:38<Eugene>I'm an Albatraoz
15:39<eagles0513875>da fudge
15:39<eagles0513875>after a 2nd reboot to the linode all is ok now
15:40<Eugene>Something something logs and Longview
15:42<eagles0513875>i checked all logs
15:42<eagles0513875>and dont have longview on this server
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17:39<veecious>hello darkness my old friend
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17:43<Peng>D:
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17:55<zifnab>i learned a fun phrase this weekend
17:55<zifnab>'mild anomic aphasia'
17:55<zifnab>ie, "I sometimes forget names"
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17:58<Eugene>How am I supposed to remember the name for that
17:59<Eugene>And I don't forget names; I never bothered to learn them to begin with
18:02<zifnab>i forget names and objects randomly
18:02<zifnab>not sure why, always have :/
18:02<zifnab>"I know your face but can't think of what to call you" happens sometimes
18:02<Eugene>Everybody gets that
18:03<dwfreed>mild case of CRS disease
18:03<Eugene>Unless you've had brain damage, in which case go see a doctor. But you're not as bad as, say, a chronic drunk
18:03<zifnab>oh totally
18:03<zifnab>i'm happy there's a name for it now
18:04<veecious>is there a disease for not being able to code for more than an hour at a time
18:05<veecious>cause im pretty sure i have that
18:05<relidy>ADD
18:05<zifnab>^^
18:05<zifnab>i have been diagnosed with add, been on drugs for it, and...meh
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18:05<zifnab>makes life boring
18:06<veecious>the drugs or the add?
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18:06<zifnab>drugs
18:06<zifnab>everything was oddly flat
18:06<zifnab>(i'm not sure how to describe that)
18:06<veecious>i don't believe in ADD
18:07<veecious>if someone stood behind me with a cattle prod i don't think i'd have any trouble focusing.
18:07<millisa>I have a cattle prod.
18:07<millisa>how much would one have to pay to get to help you focus?
18:07<Eugene>I don't think you could pay him enough
18:08<veecious>If you were responsible for it, i think i'd be dead within the hour
18:10<veecious>sometimes i like to stare at the computer screen for 5 minutes at a time, but i swear i'm thinking
18:10<zifnab>i think add/adhd are totally things that exist
18:11<zifnab>i also think its hilarious how the medication for it actually effects people who have it differently
18:11<millisa>i think the hotshot ss36 is totally a thing that exists
18:11<zifnab>aderall is just a...meh experience
18:11<Eugene>They are, diseases that should be diagnosed by a licensed medical professional. Anything other than that is Muchausen syndrom and you should consult the same persons. But we all know that, right?
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18:12<veecious>That's like saying i'd be making much more money if I didn't have adhd/add.
18:12<veecious>Isn't that something literally anyone can say
18:12<dwfreed>Eugene: Munchausen (you missed an 'n')
18:12*Eugene blames zifnab
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18:14<zifnab>is it really munchausen? or is it hypochondriasis
18:14<zifnab>...i should watch less house
18:14<zifnab>i've got like a season left
18:15<Eugene>I believe Munchausen is specifically the attention-seeking behaviour for being diagnosed with a "cool" disorder
18:16<Eugene>It appears the catch-all term is "Factitious disorder"? I better close WIkipedia before I get trapped with cancer
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18:18<MajObviousman>zifnab: don't get summit fever now. 1 season or 8 left, you should cease watching House
18:19<MajObviousman>you'll learn a whole lot more practicing medicine for yourself instead of just watching documentaries
18:20<zifnab>Eugene: pretty much. "I have epilepsy" <fakes seizure>
18:20<zifnab>MajObviousman: meh, i'm somewhat amused. i hate blood, couldn't ever do it
18:21<Eugene>I sneezed
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20:23<linbot>Ahmed: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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20:25<Ahmed>basically i'm running centos 7 server from linode. and i have installted openvpn in order to connect to nordvpn servers. once i connect to nordvpn server, my ssh access got disconnected.
20:25<Ahmed>How to allow ssh access while my server connected to vpn server. Thank you
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20:33<Ahmed>:)
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20:37<retro|blah>Ahmed: How is your Linode routing back to your ssh client once the Linode is connected to the VPN server?
20:42<retro|blah>Ahmed: You may be running into the issue that's described here: https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8737
20:44<Ahmed><retro|blah> Ahmed: How is your Linode routing back to your ssh client once the Linode is connected to the VPN server?
20:45<Ahmed>i didn't get you.
20:45<retro|blah>(This is not unique to the VPN client being on a Linode, by the way. Briefly, the machine that's acting as VPN client needs to know to continue routing the necessary traffic out the public interface instead of attempting to route it out the VPN like everything else)
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20:46<retro|blah>Ahmed: Are you able to get in through lish when the VPN client is connected to the VPN server?
20:46<retro|blah>!lish
20:46<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
20:47<Ahmed>Yes Lish works
20:47<Ahmed>The Point is: server connected to the vpn server and in same moment it's discconect my terminal access which means that i need to allow ssh access inside my interface, may i correct?
20:49<Ahmed>Code: ip rule add from x.x.x.x table 128 ip route add table 128 to y.y.y.y/y dev ethX ip route add table 128 default via z.z.z.z Where x.x.x.x is your Linode's public IP, y.y.y.y/y should be the subnet of your Linode's public IP address, ethX should be your Linode's public Ethernet interface, and z.z.z.z should be the default gateway.
20:49<Ahmed>that gonna solve my issue as i see
20:49<Ahmed>but i have one last question
20:50<Ahmed>if i rebooted the server. i will need to run the last 3 commands again, so how can i make it work automatically after server rebooted. thank you
20:53<retro|blah>There may be a way of having the openvpn client autorun a script whenever it establishes connection
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20:58<Ahmed>how to know my linode subnet of my public ip
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21:01<retro|blah>If you know the public IP and the netmask, you just zero out the host bits. Do you know what the netmask is in your case? (For me it's a /24)
21:03<retro|blah>...if it is indeed a /24, then the last octet gets replaced by a 0, so you have y.y.y.0/24 and that's the subnet of your Linode's public IP address
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21:04<dwfreed>All Linode Public IPv4 addresses use /24
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21:08<retro|blah>Yup that makes things simpler then
21:09<Peng>but private ones don't!
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22:27<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73506#p73506>
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22:37<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73505#p73505>
22:40<Zimsky>hahahahahaha my mail server is fucked.
22:40<dwfreed>oops
22:40<Zimsky>it just attached 200 dkim signatures
22:41<dwfreed>well, it's definitely signed now
22:41<Zimsky>not to mention the wrong signature
22:43<arlen>:-/
22:44<Peng>it's the thought that counts
22:48<dwfreed>https://m.xkcd.com/1181/ but for DKIM?
22:54<Zimsky>pretty much
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