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---Logopened Thu May 18 00:00:55 2017
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00:13*dcraig tickles zifnab around a bit with a large scup
00:14<zifnab>dcraig: whats up
00:15<dcraig>laundry and dishes
00:16<zifnab>i'm tryingj to figure out a mail server
00:16<zifnab>can't believe there's nothing better than postfix
00:26<Zimsky>zifnab: opensmtpd
00:26<zifnab>i'll look
00:26<Zimsky>learnt it (and troubleshooted subsequent issues with it and dovecot) in about 6 hours
00:27<zifnab>sendgrid is nice
00:27<Zimsky>not as 'featureful' as postfix or exim, but most of those features are silly anyway
00:27<zifnab>but, its far too expensive for a mail service
00:27<zifnab>to get a dedicated ip, that is
00:27<Zimsky>zifnab: opensmtpd + dkimproxy + dovecot
00:27<zifnab>everything ends up in spam otherwise
00:27<zifnab>i don't need pop3/imap
00:28<zifnab>assume send only
00:28<Zimsky>then opensmtpd + dkimproxy is your best friend
00:28<Zimsky>compile from source though, the on in debian mirrors is old
00:28<Zimsky>one*
00:29<millisa>$59/month too expensive for a dedicated ip on a mail service?
00:29<zifnab>millisa: open source project, thats roughly the same as our linode bill
00:30<millisa>k, just checking.
00:30<zifnab>i'd pay it if there was a reasonable amount of money involved
00:30<zifnab>as it sits, we've got probably a year or two's worth of money, and i'm not sure if that'll be increasing
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01:54<port443>hey everyone, i'm trying to set up websockets, and i'm having problems. I can get my chat to work on http but not https. any suggestions? just running node on the server
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01:55<grawity>afaik, if your website is served over HTTPS, you're generally required to use TLS with websockets (wss://) as well
01:56<port443>vs ws:// ?
02:00<port443>huh, i'm not even sure if this is actually even websockets.. it uses polling?
02:00<port443>i'm getting a failed GET over https on the polling, ron http it works fine
02:00<port443>on http*
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02:37<Zimsky>this seems like more of a niche question for one of those griggly freenode channels
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03:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Wordpress site not sending out emails <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12306&p=73519#p73519>
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03:39<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • seance de massage lyon <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14802&p=73520#p73520>
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03:57<iali>greetings
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03:58<iali>I wonder if i created private IP for my linode image, how much will it cost?
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04:02<iali>anyone? will creating private IP cost any extra money?
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04:04<arlen>no it won't
04:04<arlen>!ips
04:04<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
04:05<arlen>private is free or use public IPv6 within the data center and it won't count against your transfer quota
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04:20<iali>thanks alot sit
04:20<iali>sir *
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04:47<Zimsky>aye aye cap'n
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07:20<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linode VS. Dreamhost VPS <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8578&p=73521#p73521>
07:20<Woet>is linode going to do something about the daily spam?
07:20<Woet>the one from 30 hours ago wasn't even deleted
07:30<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Pending Activation <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14699&p=73526#p73526> || Customer Testimonials • Ever felt a 'Thank You' just wasn't enough? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14551&p=73525#p73525> || Sales Questions and Answers • Disk Size <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14700&p=73524#p73524> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Better docker support <https:
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07:31<Woet>christ
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08:10<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Network Helper did not run: could not reliably determine distribution or distribution version <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14798&p=73527#p73527>
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08:30<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Wordpress site not sending out emails <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12306&p=73528#p73528>
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09:00<viren>hi
09:00<viren>i getting ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full!
09:00<viren>while i m starting sql
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09:02<viren>you there ?
09:03<viren>??
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09:04<china-boy>hi
09:04<china-boy>anyone here ?
09:04<@jalter>!ask
09:04<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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09:04<china-boy>Hi
09:05<china-boy>I want to know where is the vps location
09:05<viren> ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! ... failed!
09:05<viren>i m getting this eror
09:05<china-boy>?
09:05<Meyer__>china-boy: There are several locations
09:05<china-boy>usa and jpan?
09:06<@jalter>china-boy: https://www.linode.com/speedtest
09:06<china-boy>can i chage the vps's location?
09:06<@jalter>Yes - open a support ticket and we can help you move it
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09:11<china-boy>hi
09:11<china-boy>anyone here?
09:14<Woet>yes, 354 other people are here.
09:15<china-boy> I cannot change the vps'location by myself?
09:15<Meyer__>china-boy: You can select the location when you create a new vps
09:15<china-boy>create?
09:16<china-boy>Means the time when i buy it?
09:16<Meyer__>china-boy: but if you need to migrate a already existing vps then you have to open a support ticket
09:16<Meyer__>china-boy: yes
09:16<china-boy>ohhh
09:17<china-boy>How about the jpan's vps ?
09:17<Meyer__>china-boy: And for locations in Asia you can choose between Singapore or Japan (Tokyo)
09:17<china-boy>But i want to choose a americia
09:17<Meyer__>china-boy: in Europe you have London, UK and Frankfurt, Germany
09:18<china-boy>UK
09:18<china-boy>i want to buy a uk vps
09:18<Meyer__>china-boy: in the US you can choose between Newark, Atlanta, Dallas and Fremont
09:18<china-boy>is it slowly to visit jpan?
09:18<Meyer__>china-boy: Probably slower than a vps in japan
09:19<china-boy>Can i refund when i buy it?
09:19<Meyer__>china-boy: What do you mean with refund?
09:20<china-boy>Means can i cancel my order ?
09:20<china-boy>and you refund money to me
09:20<china-boy>If it is not meet my demand
09:22<Meyer__>china-boy: Yes! If you're unsatisfied for any reason, you can cancel your account within the first seven days and request a full refund, no questions asked
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09:38<china-boy>HI
09:39<china-boy>How long it will take to approve my account sign up
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09:40<brandon_>hello, is there any support agents available?
09:41<china-boy>Hi
09:41<china-boy>Any support?
09:41<china-boy>@brandon_
09:42<dzho>!to china-boy support
09:42<dzho>oh, hmm.
09:43<china-boy>where are you
09:44<china-boy>Looks like no one.
09:45<Woet>china-boy: within 24 hours
09:45<Woet>brandon_: just ask.
09:45<Woet>china-boy: and stop being so impatient
09:46<china-boy>Ok,sorry.
09:47<brandon_>Hello, i need to restore a server to back up asap
09:47<Woet>brandon_: feel free to proceed
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09:51<dzho>brandon_: https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/rescue-and-rebuild#restoring-from-backup
09:51<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials • Creating your own dynamic dns solution with linode dns & mikrotik <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14765&p=73530#p73530> || Customer Testimonials • Thank You Linode Support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14373&p=73529#p73529>
09:57<brandon_>unfortunately i've only just enabled backups, is there something i can do?
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10:17<umair>hello
10:17<umair>anyone here from linode?
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11:14<Guest451>Hello, does the linode provide aditional storage volume
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11:14<rekcuf>hi there
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11:16<FluffyFoxeh>Guest451: It doesn't yet
11:17<Guest451>do you mean that linode will provide in the future ?
11:19<DrJ>Guest451, yes they are working on block storage
11:19<Guest451>Thanks.
11:19<DrJ>Don't know when though
11:19<DrJ>last update I'm aware of on it was in february and it said "in the coming months"
11:21<DrJ>based on that it could be very soon
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11:58<Dan_K>Quick questions, are the CPU Cores listed in the pricing plans virtual cores or physical cores?
11:58<+nbrewer>virtual cores
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11:58<Dan_K>ok, thanks!
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14:34<Peng>It's automatically managing the number of users who can be in the channel
14:45<seacat>linode support: i just wanna say, you guys are awesome and amazing and awesome and amazing. :)
14:46<@jalter>awwwwwwwwww
14:46<@jalter><3
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15:47<uther>hi, all. do the private addresses span across data centers or are they for "local" datacenter only?
15:48<uther>i.e. - can my vm in dallas talk to my vm in new jersey over the private IP space?
15:49<Eugene>uther - nope, DC-local and not Private to you at all.
15:49<Eugene>The only real distinction from Public IPs is that local IPv4 traffic over a Private IP does not count against your bandwidth total
15:49<uther>understood
15:49<Eugene>The same is true of ALL IPv6 traffic on the local link; you should just use that instead
15:49<uther>but not cross DC, correct
15:50<Eugene>Correct, there is one "network" per DC
15:50<uther>thanks
15:50<Eugene>And IPs are repeated/reused
15:50<uther>is there a way to "remove" the local IP then?
15:50<uther>not going to use that
15:51<uther>er, Private IP
15:51<Eugene>Easy way: delete+recreate the LInode, and don't click the link next time
15:51<uther>uh, not doing that. :)
15:51<Eugene>Hard way: file a ticket and ask if they can remove it
15:51<Eugene>Chaos way: don't bother; it doesn't hurt anything to jsut sit there unused
15:52<uther>i'm fine with that, just hate to hold a resource i'm not going to use
15:52<Eugene>RFC1918 is big ;-)
15:52<uther>true
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16:28<acald3ron>can i make a 6in4 tunnel in a pptp or openvpn ?
16:34<Woet>i have faith in your ability to do so
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16:44<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14803&p=73531#p73531>
16:44<Eugene>acald3ron - yes, openvpn will pass Protocol 41 traffic(6in4) natively
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16:44<Eugene>But you don't need to anymore; openvpn has ipv6 support on-link
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16:50<BillS>Hello. Does anyone know if Linode charges VAT for EU countries?
16:51<@caker>we don't yet, but will be soon.
16:51<BillS>Thank you! I appreciate that!
16:51<Woet>gotta pay your taxes
16:52<BillS>Sure but I don't own a business or have a merchant account
16:52<BillS>I just want to try things
16:52<acald3ron>:D
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16:53<BillS>And at least in Greece it's too much of a problem to explain to the financial institution why you rented a server
16:53<BillS>:P
16:54<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • CAA type DNS records <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12510&p=73493#p73493>
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18:10<zifnab>!metar ksea
18:10<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KSEA: 60.8F/16C, visibility 10 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 59.90F (altimeter: 30.16) [KSEA 182153Z 26007KT 10SM FEW036 BKN110 OVC200 16/07 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP218]
18:10<zifnab>!metar kpae
18:10<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KPAE: 60.8F/16C, visibility 10 miles, wind 4.60 mph, chill 61.07F (altimeter: 30.16) [KPAE 182153Z 29004KT 10SM BKN035 OVC120 16/07 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP213 T01560067]
18:10<zifnab>!metar kpdx
18:10<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KPDX: 66.2F/19C, visibility 10 miles, wind 4.60 mph, chill 67.37F (altimeter: 30.13) [KPDX 182153Z 33004KT 10SM FEW040 SCT100 19/07 A3013 RMK AO2 SLP202 T01890067]
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18:28<Ikaros>!metar kdfw
18:28<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 89.6F/32C, visibility 10 miles, wind 23.02 mph, chill 95.64F (altimeter: 29.66) [KDFW 182153Z 16020G32KT 10SM SCT046 BKN060 32/21 A2966 RMK AO2 PK WND 16035/2126]
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18:33<arlen>!metar kokc
18:33<linbot>arlen: [metar] OBS at KOKC: F/C, visibility 3 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill -17.11F (altimeter: ) [KOKC 182230Z 12010KT 3SM R35R/3500VP6000FT -TSRA SCT024 BKN045CB BKN055 OVC130]
18:36<Zimsky>!meta bikf
18:36<Zimsky>je du le qua
18:40<zifnab>so, what does it mean when an airport (KOKC) doesn't have a tempurature
18:40<zifnab>i thought metar was used for flight data?
18:40<zifnab>so, okc doesn't have flights right now?
18:41<Zimsky>what
18:41<Zimsky>metar is a type of weather report
18:41<Zimsky>but in reality, a full TAF/TTF will be used
18:42<Zimsky>http://en.vedur.is/weather/aviation/taf/
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18:52<Ikaros>zifnab: It can mean a malfunction. KOKC had a severe thunderstorm move through not too long ago, it could have knocked some instruments offline.
18:53<zifnab>ah
18:53<Ikaros>Same thing happened with West Palm Beach, FL airport back when Hurricane Matthew was affecting the eastern shore of Florida - eventually it knocked the observation site offline. Usually weather-induced outage.
18:53<Ikaros>Is my point
18:53<zifnab>Zimsky: i thought TAF was based on METAR
18:54<Ikaros>And this is ongoing, btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1Bp1ILFSM
18:54<zifnab>huh
18:54<zifnab>so its quite possible that okc is offline
18:56<Zimsky>zifnab: it is
18:56<Zimsky>but metar is a quick look
18:56<Zimsky>also zifnab, Ikaros, it could just be the api is derping
18:56<zifnab>TAF is a historic record, but if you're missing current data, takeoff/landing is gonna be a bitch?
18:56<Zimsky>taf isn't historical
18:56<Zimsky>lol
18:57<zifnab>!help metar
18:57<linbot>zifnab: (metar <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "wx $*".
18:57<Zimsky>that's why it's a terminal aerodrome FOREcast
18:57<zifnab>ah
18:57<dwfreed>!help wx
18:57<linbot>dwfreed: (wx <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://kovaya.com/wx.cgi?icao=$1&requester=$nick".
18:57<zifnab>i don't know acronyms
18:57<zifnab>huh, wx sends off a requester too
18:57<zifnab>interesting
18:57<zifnab>!help point
18:57<linbot>zifnab: (point <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title urmom.rm.wtf/points/add/$nick/$1/".
18:58<zifnab>i hate not knowing who owns an IP
18:58<Zimsky>zifnab: if you're a pilot about to go out, you'd be reading the TAF/TTF and SIGMETs for your local and destination airport
18:58<Zimsky>amongst other things
18:59<Zimsky>http://www.aviationweather.gov/adds/tafs/?station_ids=KLAX&std_trans=translated
19:07<zifnab>interesting
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21:45<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • nike roshe run femme pas cher <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14805&p=73533#p73533> || Feature Request/Bug Report • nike huarache homme <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14804&p=73532#p73532>
21:46<dzho>french forum spam
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21:51<MrPPS>:(
21:53<arlen>:-/
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21:55<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Better docker support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13995&p=73511#p73511> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73505#p73505> || Sales Questions and Answers • Disk Size <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14700&p=73497#p73497> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Forward emails without hosting a mail server <https://
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22:17<al_>Hi
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22:19<arlen>bye
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22:20<al_>Is the dedicated sever product managed?
22:20<Cromulent>there are no dedicated servers
22:20<Cromulent>they are all VPS instances
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22:21<Cromulent>!managed
22:21<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
22:21<Cromulent>!professional
22:21<linbot>https://www.linode.com/professional-services
22:21<Cromulent>you might want to check those links out as well
22:21<al_>ok. Thanks
22:22<al_>Can I have the pricing also for managed product
22:22<Cromulent>$100 per linode per month
22:22<Cromulent>it is all in the link
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22:45<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • U2F Security Key Support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14492&p=73534#p73534>
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22:55<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • U2F Security Key Support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14492&p=73512#p73512>
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23:35<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Don't have access to StackScriptID="1" <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14806&p=73535#p73535>
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23:55<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Disk Size <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14700&p=73537#p73537> || Feature Request/Bug Report • U2F Security Key Support <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14492&p=73536#p73536>
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