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---Logopened Mon May 22 00:00:01 2017
00:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • i need some advice on whether or not it makes sense moving to linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14813&p=73565#p73565>
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03:49<foinus>hi is it posebul to opgrate storrage
03:50<Peng>For now you need to upgrade to a larger plan. A network block storage product is in development, though.
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03:51<foinus>nice
03:51<foinus>when is that expectet
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03:52<Peng>There should be a beta soon.
03:54<grawity>that sounds useful
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04:38*Celti is eagerly awaiting a block storage beta
04:38<Celti>Either that or a worthwhile FUSE interface to Backblaze B2
04:41<Peng>S3 FUSE, what could go wrong
04:42<Celti>My bank account. S3 is pricy compared to B2.
04:55<Peng>Only if you use it!
05:00<Celti>True, and I still have space left so I haven't bothered with *any* solution yet.
05:00<Celti>Of course, I haven't bothered with any solution yet so I've been husbanding space a bit.
05:02<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • magasin bio en ligne <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14814&p=73566#p73566>
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05:17<foinus>wat software are linode using for hosting ??
05:17<Woet>KVM for the vast majority, Xen for some legacy.
05:17<foinus>cool in openstack ??
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05:20<foinus>is it on openstack they are running kvm
05:20<Woet>doubtful
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05:31<foinus>what the i am just wondering ?? :)
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06:43<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • php mail() not working with Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL and SquirrelMail <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14812&p=73567#p73567>
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07:05<Zimsky>"error: invalid arch independent ELF magic"
07:05<Zimsky>I have never seen this error
07:06<Zimsky>and the irritation it wells up in me is only countered by my amusement of "invalid elf magic"
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07:31<Celti>It sounds like GRUB is trying to load the MBR modules while the EFI GRUB is booted
07:31<Celti>...or maybe vice-versa
07:32<Celti>been a while since I had to troubleshoot GRUB
07:43<Zimsky>bootloaders aren't really my thing, and generally I just trawl through forums until I find something that works, or give up and watch blackadder
07:43<Zimsky>or install a different operating system
07:52<Celti>right, but it should be a simple fix
07:52<Zimsky>probably
07:52<Celti>just make sure you've installed GRUB's modules for the version of GRUB you're actually booting
07:53<Celti>which *should* be as simple as re-running your distro's grub install helper
07:53<Zimsky>I ended up just reinstalling debian
07:53<Zimsky>lol
07:53<Zimsky>I think I might know what went wrong
07:53<Celti>Well, that's one way of doing it.
07:53<Zimsky>I wasn't really paying attention when I was hitting return on some options
07:54<Celti>Augh, this hotel wifi is so laggy I can type an entire line before it shows up in weechat
07:56<Celti>It was working fine when I first got here and then went to pot the moment I tried to do anything consequential over it
07:56<Celti>VPN is helping abate it some, though
07:59<Zimsky>it was easier and quicker to install freebsd on a macbook (with zfs) than it was to install debian on this particular pc
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08:05<Zimsky>Celti: hotels usually have shit wifi
08:05<Zimsky>they're not like universities or business that put WAPs in every rooms
08:05<Zimsky>probably one or two per floor, lol
08:06<Celti>Been to this one many times over the years, it's erratic
08:06<Celti>and they actually have a WAP in every room
08:06<Celti>it's hidden behind the TV
08:06<Zimsky>cute
08:06<Meyer__>that sounds like a recipe for chaos
08:06<Zimsky>perhaps plug straight into it
08:06<Zimsky>maybe channel collisions
08:07<Meyer__>Especially if there is a lot of overlap and channel collissions
08:07<Celti>They're all the same network
08:07<Celti>It should theoretically be seamless
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08:08<Zimsky>theoretically is a fantastic word
08:08<Woet>theoretically it is
08:08<Celti>Dammit, beat me to it.
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08:10<Celti>It's actually working well enough for IRC now
08:12<Celti>I miss having my phone rooted so I can tether, though.
08:12<Meyer__>Celti: crappy provider that does not allow therering?
08:12<Meyer__>tethering
08:12<Celti>Doesn't allow tethering with unlimited data, at least
08:16<Zimsky>get a provider that isn't shit
08:16<Zimsky>american phone services are weird
08:16<Zimsky>I've never come across another country that has such limitations
08:16<Celti>There are no providers that aren't shit, here, alas.
08:16<Woet>i'd love to get an american phone provider
08:16<Woet>unlimited roaming all around the world
08:17<Celti>and they're probably going to become more shit as the FCC goes to hell
08:17<Zimsky>the FCC already went to hell
08:17<Zimsky>November 8th, most american departments went to hell
08:17<Celti>Only reason I have unlimited data on the phone itself is because I'm grandfathered in on my sister's old plan she's had for like twelve years
08:17<Woet>am i sensing an upcoming political shitstorm
08:18<Woet>we just need to find a trump supporter here
08:23<Zimsky>Woet: I remember when politics used to be about differing opinions
08:23<Zimsky>as opposed to blatantly wrong vs right
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08:53<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • php mail() not working with Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL and SquirrelMail <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14812&p=73568#p73568>
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09:33<@tduff>ugh stupid quassel, that was rude
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09:48<Zimsky>tduff: that's fucking brilliant
09:48<Zimsky>I just lost the game.
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11:04<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Just wanted to say Hello. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14815&p=73569#p73569>
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11:14<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • WordPress upload and Activation procedure <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14659&p=73516#p73516>
11:14<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'.
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11:43<APatel>I'm trying to link my Godaddy domain to my linode server. Is the only thing I need to change is the nameservers?
11:45<FluffyFoxeh>depends. If you want to use the Linode DNS Manager than yes. Otherwise just point an A record (and an AAAA record if you want ipv6) at your Linode
11:46<APatel>Thank you. Ill try it now
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13:04<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • /dev/root size keeps going up <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14816&p=73570#p73570>
13:09<Zimsky>whatever goes up, must come down
13:09<Zimsky>or probably just keep going up if you don't set up proper log rotation
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14:29<zifnab>asking #oftc for linux help
14:29<zifnab>i guess that works too
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14:37<Zimsky>zifnab: I once got some great advice on working with pastry in a channel originally meant for markov bots to spam eachother
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14:38<zifnab>haha
14:38<digitalirony>Hello. I was wondering if Linode offers any sort of hosting services to Non Profits? I am here on behalf of the California Pirate Party. We currently use DigitalOcean, and looking to move.
14:38<zifnab>best advice comes from the worst places
14:39<@caker>hello digitalirony - Linode does not offer discounts for non-profits. Our pricing is already very aggressive
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14:41<Zimsky>pricing that punches you in the face.
14:41<Zimsky>especially in cases of backpfeifengesicht
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14:42<digitalirony>@caker yeah you guys are cheaper by far, like half the price heh
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14:42<digitalirony>And we are outgrowing our free service at DO :C
14:42<digitalirony>so I think we will likely still move
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14:44<Zimsky>I'm at a loss as to why a criminal-sailor-themed celebratory event would require server hosting
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14:45<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • massage lyon <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14817&p=73571#p73571>
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14:48<Woet>so he's thanking DO for the free service by paying linode
14:48<Woet>thats a bit rude
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14:48<Zimsky>you expected a pirate to be nice?
14:48<Woet>to be fair they're trying to pirate hosting
14:48<Woet>guess i shouldn't expect it
14:49<Zimsky>Woet: see my above statement
14:49<Zimsky>I feel it's well constructed
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15:19<skyfaller>hey folks, does anyone here use Caddy and/or Let's Encrypt? I've gotten automatic HTTPS working with Hugo but not with my Wordpress site
15:20<skyfaller>when I attempt to run Caddy with the Wordpress site, I notice that it's creating a TXT Record
15:20<skyfaller>with name "_acme-challenge"
15:20<skyfaller>which did not happen with Hugo
15:21<skyfaller>and Caddy is refusing to start up. I think these are connected somehow, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out
15:22<millisa>what does caddy say when it tries to startup? (Is it able to bind to port 80/443?)
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15:25<skyfaller>millisa: I'm able to make Caddy start up and bind to port 80/443 with my Hugo website, but when I add the Wordpress site into the Caddyfile, it just says "Activating privacy features..." forever
15:25<skyfaller>and it begins creating the mysterious "_acme-challenge" TXT records in my Linode DNS manager
15:26<skyfaller>here's my Caddyfile: https://hastebin.com/raw/nobuwiroja
15:27<skyfaller>stairball.org is the one that breaks Caddy, Caddy runs fine with oahspesales.com
15:27<millisa>do you *need* to use the dns authentication? if you leave the tls{} section out, isn't it supposed to do one of the other authentication methods?
15:28<Zimsky>dns auth is nice but a bitch with TTLs and propagation time
15:28<skyfaller>I guess I can try taking it out, but the linode dns authentication worked fine with Hugo
15:29<millisa>^^^
15:30<millisa>you may have just had really good timing on the first one
15:32<skyfaller>weird... well, that fixed it.
15:32<millisa>great
15:34<Zimsky>depends on your perspective
15:37<Zimsky>through quantum entanglement, you may have just killed someone in Kyrgyzstan
15:45<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Installing Roundcube on Linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14818&p=73572#p73572>
15:53<claudioroberto>someone ae to solve problem with my linode account?
15:53<scotti>nope
15:53<scotti>just ask though
15:53<scotti>someone might know the answer
16:00<zifnab>Zimsky: did you step on a butterfly today
16:00<Zimsky>I haven't been outside in 3 days
16:01<zifnab>ha
16:01<Zimsky>I've been awake for about that same time
16:01<Zimsky>I think
16:02<zifnab>Eliz: you're +g
16:02<zifnab>fixit
16:02<Eliz>zifnab: ... oh yeah because this network is dumb
16:02<zifnab>yup
16:02<Eliz>dwfreed: fix it fix it fix it
16:02<zifnab>he's probably sleeping
16:02<Eliz>nope
16:02<zifnab>something about a 4am flight
16:02<Zimsky>lightweight
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16:11<@jfred>oh, the things you find when looking up IRC docs... TIL Microsoft sold a set top box with an IRC client for a while
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16:12<Zimsky>microsoft also sold the zune
16:12*jfred has a few Zunes
16:13<Zimsky>also if you flip the zune logo left to right, it becomes "anus"
16:14<Zimsky>jfred, don't forget the HD DVD player
16:15<Zimsky>which literally became a doorstopper in a few places
16:15<@jfred>also had one of those (for the 360)
16:15<@jfred>I was a Microsoft fan for a while, heh
16:16<Zimsky>you must have been cooler then
16:17<Zimsky>the only part of microsoft I like is their research department
16:19<@jfred>didn't last too long, I got fed up with things like their lackluster treatment of XNA (you can make apps for the Zune maybe someday eventually! ...never happened)
16:20<Zimsky>unsure if you got the pun
16:20<Zimsky>>microsoft fan
16:20<Zimsky>>cooler
16:20<Zimsky>ha.
16:20<Zimsky>ha
16:20<Zimsky>har.
16:20*jfred is lost heh
16:20<@jfred>oh
16:20*jfred facepalms
16:21<Zimsky>the only related company worse than microsoft in a related area is dell
16:21<Zimsky>...that was tautological
16:21<Zimsky>anyway dell sucks
16:21<Zimsky>I hope they go out of business and die
16:23<millisa>who do you prefer for physical servers?
16:23<Zimsky>supermicro
16:24<Zimsky>or HP
16:25<zifnab>one of my linodes rebooted
16:25<Zimsky>OH GOD
16:25<zifnab>i need someone to blame
16:25<Zimsky>hi
16:25<zifnab>who's the resident ginger
16:25<Zimsky>hi
16:25<zifnab>i'm guessing jfred or mcintosh
16:25<skyfaller>millisa and Zimsky, thank you for your help (I forgot to thank you earlier)! My wordpress site is working perfectly now :)
16:25<Zimsky>zifnab: are you a ginger?
16:26<@mcintosh>i am not the droid you're looking for
16:26<zifnab>mcintosh: confirmed, you're now the resident ginger
16:26<Zimsky>or is mcintosh the attending ginger?
16:26<zifnab>Zimsky: i dyed my hair once, tried blonde, turned red
16:26<zifnab>but no, its dark brown
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16:28<Zimsky>why would you dye your hair
16:29<millisa>apparently you aren't supposed to just do other people's without asking. weird societal rules.
16:31<Zimsky>what
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16:35<zifnab>Zimsky: college
16:36<Zimsky>america is strange
16:36<zifnab>says the person who lives in china
16:36<Woet>i mean they elected trump
16:36<zifnab>i did not vote for him
16:36<Zimsky>Woet: you didn't say anything
16:36<Zimsky>why are you clarifying your meaning
16:36<Woet>your cat changed your ballot
16:36<Woet>sorry you had to find out
16:37<Zimsky>you are on the joke, Woet
16:37<Zimsky>cats don't have the dexterity
16:37<Woet>they might have
16:37<Zimsky>and zifnab's cats are too occupied urinating
16:38<Zimsky>they mightn't've either
16:39<Zimsky>I'd've'nt said that if I're you
16:39<Zimsky>english is such a fucked up language
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18:02<wisemonkey>Hey guys I currently have 2 nodes, however now I need something with a lot of HDD space (I don't really wat it all SSD)
18:03<wisemonkey>is there cheap and easily available space? if not on Linode is there other VPS provider for space
18:03<wisemonkey>thanks
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18:06<nate>wisemonkey: Perhaps you want to look into a CDN of some sort?
18:06<nate>Most VPS providers these days are SSD oriented I'm pretty sure
18:06<wisemonkey>thanks I'll check CDN
18:07<wisemonkey>and I'm unaware what CDN means but let me just google it
18:07<Zimsky>cartwheel dinosaur noodle
18:07<wisemonkey>I guess content delivery network
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18:07<wisemonkey>haha I like that @Zimsky
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18:11<nate>Stupid alt hotkeys
18:12<nate>But yeah CDN is something like, keycdn, amazon S3, etc. Basically places dedicated for content storage amongst other things
18:12<Zimsky>stupid nate
18:12<Zimsky>¨O
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18:13<Zimsky>CDNs are more for stuff you're actually serving to users though
18:13<Zimsky>not storage of anything
18:14<wisemonkey>Thanks again I'll read up and see if I want CDN, if I do is it exactly same as VPS (get an access to Linux shell and deploy OS -> webservices) ?
18:14<Zimsky>like, you'd host your JS libraries on a CDN (or use someone else's CDN, like google or maxCDN) so your users don't download jquery every time they visit your site
18:15<Zimsky>or your images, CSS, etc
18:20<wisemonkey>thanks yup I'm looking to deploy instance of either piwigo or nextcloud but will have bunch of data SSD won't be enough
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18:53<Eugene>OK, which one of you ordered a pound of lucky charms marshmellows to my house
18:53<millisa>wait, just a pound?
18:53<Eugene>https://goo.gl/photos/sux4WfWm2pWjCvxH8
18:53<@jleal>the real question is they just sell the marshmallows?!
18:54<Eugene>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WXZJTS4
18:55<Zimsky>I ordered 2kg of rock candy
18:56<Zimsky>best €10 I ever spent
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19:01<ConejoHombre>Is there any way to make some dough running servers?
19:02<Zimsky>dough-running servers? dough, running servers? dough running-servers?
19:04<Zimsky>you're going to need flour
19:04<ConejoHombre>Is there any way to run a server and make some money doing it?
19:04<millisa>some of us only make money by running servers...
19:04<Zimsky>uh, run a big server, split it into smaller servers and sell those at a profit?
19:04<Zimsky>I think there's a company called linode that does that
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19:11<chaserse>How long is the pendig activation time? :)
19:11<millisa>not long. watch your email
19:12<chaserse>i do, reload it like every 5 sec xD
19:13<MrPPS>ConejoHombre: Yes, if you can think of an idea/plan/etc that's sellable. Many people do it - game server hosting, web hosting, email, etc.
19:14<MrPPS>Just think of something you're capable of doing that requires a server, and a market that wants that service
19:14<MrPPS>hey presto!
19:14<Peng>How about crime
19:14<Peng>I've heard that pays
19:14<MrPPS>I'm sure you could build a DDoS for hire then Peng ;)
19:15<synfinatic>apparently, there's surprisingly good money to be had in Minecraft hosting
19:15<MrPPS>still?
19:15<MrPPS>wow
19:15<synfinatic>you know that big ddos a few months ago which took out 1/2 the internet?
19:16<synfinatic>yeah, that was one minecraft host provider ddos'ing the competition so the users would jump ship
19:16<MrPPS>source on that one?
19:16<MrPPS>that sounds crazy
19:16<MrPPS>haha
19:16<synfinatic><insert googley eyes>
19:16<MrPPS>k found the article
19:17<MrPPS>having a read now
19:17<synfinatic>https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/01/who-is-anna-senpai-the-mirai-worm-author/
19:18<ConejoHombre>Did the perps get prosecuted?
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