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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-05-28

---Logopened Sun May 28 00:00:09 2017
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00:16<microvb>Peng: awesome sauce, able to update GitLab again. apparently, running this command in exim's msglog folder, also nukes the crap from exims input folder : for i in `ls`; do exim -Mrm $i; done
00:16<microvb>stopped exim, and removed it from startup
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00:30<raj>my machine rebooted apparently
00:31<raj>is there somewhere I can see why?
00:31<dwfreed>!lish
00:31<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
00:31<microvb>you can use lish/glish and check lastlog
00:32<dwfreed>see the logview command; note that it outputs 250 lines of the previous boot, and then 100 lines of the current boot, so you'll have to scroll up a bit (which will work best in lish-via-ssh, instead of weblish)
00:36<raj>microvb, lastlog is just showing users that have logged in
00:36<raj>dwfreed, logview command not found
00:36<dwfreed>you need to detach from the screen session first
00:36<dwfreed>Ctrl+a d
00:36<dwfreed>it is a Lish command, not a Linux command
00:37<microvb>^ list to dwfreed ... i forgot the commands lol... sorry for the confusion with 'lastlog'
00:37<microvb>listen*
00:39<raj>how'd you know I was in screen dwfreed?
00:39<arlen>because he knows all
00:40<dwfreed>because I know Lish
00:41<raj>but yes, after detaching screen, I still didn't see anything useful explaining why the machine had restarted
00:41<raj>I basically just see the startup lines
00:41<Peng>Did you scroll up a hundred lines?
00:42<raj>yes, scrolled all the way to the top
00:42<raj>https://paste.ofcode.org/dqyjawEjzd5Prx4YNUF3fj
00:43<raj>just shows some booting information
00:43<raj>nothing about the shutdown
00:44<Peng>Anything in the Linode manager? A support ticket?
00:44<Peng>Does the job queue have "Host initiated restart" or "Lassie initiated boot" (paraphrased)?
00:46<raj>oh yes, that ticket just showed up
00:46<raj>hardware issue
00:47<raj>guess it's fixed now
00:48<raj>thanks for the help Peng microvb, dwfreed
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04:57<Peng>The city of New Tokyo 3 has modern infrastructure but terrible uptime
04:58*dcraig reboots Peng
04:59*csnxs removes Peng
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05:02*csnxs upgrades rsdehart to Windows 10 Home
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05:10<internat>its a trap
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05:13<mueez>hi
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05:14<csnxs>hi
05:15<mueez>I am looking to host a wordpress web application which has a potential of receiving around 40000 page views initially. Which one of your products will suite me ?
05:16<Peng>All of them, most likely, but it partly depends on what kind of plugins you use and how intensive the site is.
05:17<mueez>I am not a techie, how would i get the above info ?
05:18<internat>you should get yourself a techie
05:18<internat>these systems are self managed
05:18<internat>your are responsible for updates, and installing, and configuring, and doing everything!
05:18<internat>unless you pay for the linode managed services
05:19<mueez>ok
05:19<mueez>how does the manged hosting work ?
05:20<csnxs>!managed
05:20<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
05:21<mueez>thanks
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05:30<rsdehart>dcraig the honeypot is the most disturbing thing I've heard today
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09:16<Zimsky>shit
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09:54<Osama>hi
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13:01<Client>I have a presales question concerning Linode ... is this the place to get answers?
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13:02<arlen>Client: yup
13:03<arlen>!ask
13:03<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
13:07<Client>What is the availability and cost for additional ipv4 addresses. Idealy a block of 8 is required.
13:07<arlen>!ips
13:07<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
13:08<arlen>what do you need the addresses for?
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13:11<Client>Multiple domains... the sysadmin requires individual Ip's for each domain as well as a admin ip for admin use only, so on...
13:11<arlen>that's wasteful
13:11<arlen>I'm not an employee but I doubt Linode would give them for that reason
13:12<Client>that is his requirement .. /shrug
13:12<arlen>then he's terrible and should find someone better
13:13<jback>those are not valid reasons at all quite honestly
13:13<jback>SEO isn't either, SSL isn't as well
13:13<Client>Any suggestion how to train an old dog new tricks? I have been suggesting that SNI is a good thing for over a year now...
13:14<jback>well, SNI is exactly your answer
13:14<jback>it is a waste of resources to allocate dedicated IP´s
13:15<Client>So I lack in the tech area ... is there much if anything additional to using SNI?
13:15<jback>if at all, it should make things easier
13:16<jback>no additional hassle with configuring additional IP's, binding to those IP's for specific services. etc
13:16<grawity>SNI works by default in any modern httpd (and client)
13:16<Client> ... Try telling Yahoo and Google they have share an IPV4 and see what happens. ...
13:17<grawity>different scale, different requirements
13:17<jback>I'm not sure what you've meant, but likely it is a very unfair comparison
13:18<jback>thousands of *physical* machines is quite something different
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13:18<jback>and likely a fair share of them isn't even publicly reachable
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13:19<Client>Ok well thanks for the input ... I will go back to banging my head against a brick wall.
13:19<arlen>have fun
13:19<jback>well honestly, if you require separate IP's, get extra VM's
13:20<Client>lol, thanks arlen ... and yeah I think i will make the suggestion jback.
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13:20<jback>there is no valid reason (apart from some stupid design choices such as doing your own DNS in a SPOF way) to get extra IP's for a VPS really
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13:22<jitin_>hey ihe some doubts befre buying linode
13:22<jitin_>hostig
13:22<jitin_>cananyone help me ?
13:22*jitin_ slaps abrining around a bit with a large fishbot
13:23<arlen>!ask
13:23<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
13:24<jitin_>ok so my first question is what kind of hosting linode offers?
13:24<arlen>vps
13:24<grawity>KVM-based, unmanaged virtual servers
13:25<Zimsky>can I pay linode to store a large box of watermelons in their office
13:25<arlen>if the price is right, yes
13:27<jitin_>ok how is this linode is different from other vps like inmotion bluehost etc??
13:27<Zimsky>arlen: would you accept a billion euros to then go and cut off your arm
13:27<arlen>no
13:27<Zimsky>jitin_: it doesn't suck
13:27<Zimsky>arlen: that's silly
13:27<jitin_>pleasei want some serious ans ?
13:27<dwfreed>you could buy a new arm with the billion euros
13:27<Zimsky>jitin_: it's a serious answer
13:28<jitin_>:(
13:28<dwfreed>jitin_: that is serious
13:28<Zimsky>dwfreed: I would have figured you of anyone would get the question
13:28<Zimsky>"to then go"
13:28<Zimsky>you've already been given the money.
13:28<Zimsky>you can just bugger off and not do it
13:28<dwfreed>heh
13:28<arlen>:-/
13:29<dwfreed>jitin_: Linode is one of the best hosting companies I've worked with; most other providers have terrible uptime, terrible support, terrible features, or some combination of the 3
13:29<dwfreed>oh, or terrible performance, forgot that one
13:29<Zimsky>terrible control panels
13:30<dwfreed>Zimsky: I kind of grouped that into "terrible features"
13:30<Zimsky>I guess?
13:30<Zimsky>I'm glad I started colocating
13:30<arlen>me too
13:30<Zimsky>EXCEPT WHEN SOME TWAT KNOCKS OUT THE PATCH CABLE
13:31<Zimsky>I should asked to be moved out of the peasant cabinet
13:31<dwfreed>you don't have your own cabinet?
13:32<Zimsky>unsure if you're asking that question seriously, or perhaps for potential comedic effect
13:33<Zimsky>but no
13:36<dwfreed>bit of both
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13:37<dwfreed>HE has the $400 42U special
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13:43<Zimsky>dwfreed: "Promotion extended by popular demand"
13:43<Zimsky>lol
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13:43<Zimsky>I don't want to travel to America though
13:43<Zimsky>...or host anything in america
13:43<dwfreed>probably better than China
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13:44<Zimsky>I don't host anything in china
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13:53<Zimsky>https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/iproute2.git/tree/misc/ss.c
13:53<Zimsky>whoops
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13:55<iali>greetings
13:56<dwfreed>Zimsky: heh; ss is the new netstat
13:56<dwfreed>it's insanely powerful, but can quickly become information overload
13:57<iali>I enabled private IP on my linode VPS (192.168.154.xxx), But I cant access it using ping/ssh from my other Linode VPS. I am missing something?
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13:57<Zimsky>dwfreed: you can't use that command in germany though
13:58<Zimsky>lettuce not forget that there's always lsof -i
13:58<dwfreed>lsof doesn't even compare to ss
13:59<dwfreed>also the need for two separate "no-lookup" options for lsof is kind of annoying
13:59<dwfreed>lsof -nPi
13:59<dwfreed>n for hostnames, P for ports
14:00<Zimsky>really depends on what you want to do
14:02<iali>anybody?
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14:03<millisa>iali - are both linodes in the same datacenter? is a private ip actually configured on both? (output of: ip addr list in a pastebin would probably help)
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14:06<iali>@millisa - both linodes on the same data center, however, the first machine's Private IP: 192.168.154.xxx and the other Linode's private IP: 192.168.157.xxx , will that make any issue?
14:07<grawity>they're /17's, aren't they
14:07<millisa>they are if you set the subnet right.
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14:09<iali>@<grawity> - yes /17
14:09<grawity>well then they're on the same subnet
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14:10<Zimsky>"Standard delivery (7 business days)"
14:10<Zimsky>"One-day delivery (6 business days)"
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14:10<Zimsky>what in the even steven
14:10<Zimsky>even steven cannot even
14:11<iali>@ millisa - kindly find the pstebin : https://pastebin.com/9mBym8xk
14:11<millisa>2nd machine doesn't have the private ip configured?
14:12<iali>strange, although in the dashboard i have a private IP assigned, So, how to configure the private IP on that machine?
14:12<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration
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14:15<dwfreed>if you have network helper enabled, which it is by default on new accounts these days, rebooting the Linode will configure the private IP for you
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14:17<Zimsky>dwfreed: what colour of patch cable should I get next? I'm bored of the blue and grey
14:17<dwfreed>yellow
14:17<millisa>pink bling!
14:17<dwfreed>or pink, or green
14:17<dwfreed>all my patch cables are yellow
14:17<millisa>https://www.nexhi.com/content/images/thumbs/0007730_cables-unlimited-kabling-cat5e-patch-cable-with-bling-and-snagless-boot-pink.jpeg
14:17<zifnab>Purple
14:18<Zimsky>jesus millisa that actually exists
14:18<millisa>i have racks of them...
14:18<linbot>IT'S FABULOUS!!!
14:18<millisa>they came in 7, 15, and 25 foot lengths. couldn't find shorter
14:18<millisa>(there was a bin of them on clearance at frys at one point, so i bought them all)
14:19<Zimsky>frys is great
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14:19<millisa>the boots have stayed surprisingly non-brittle/hard after 5-6 years
14:19<Zimsky>when I went to the united states, I bought so much stuff at frys I had to get a second suitcase for the trip back
14:19<Zimsky>harddrives were CHEAP
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14:20<Zimsky>it seems I can choose from blue, black, green, grey, red, purple, white, yellow and orange
14:20<arlen>orange
14:21<Eugene>Every day Im Linodin'
14:21<Zimsky>Every day Im Eugene'
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14:30<Zimsky>"One day express delivery - €999"
14:30<Zimsky>that's a lot of eur
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14:30<Eugene>I had a keyboard overnighted from Amazon yesterday. I didn't like it, so I returned it and another one is on its way today. $free
14:31<Zimsky>but at what cost, Eugene
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14:39<Eugene>$109.95, no tax for some reason. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004S862FW
14:40<dwfreed>Eugene: Amazon doesn't collect tax on marketplace purchases, only purchases from Amazon itself
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14:41<Eugene>I've seen various combinations of no/tax depending upon your shipping vs biling state. I stopped trying to figure it out
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14:42<dwfreed>I live in MI, where we have 6% sales tax; the only time I get taxed is when I'm buying directly from Amazon, rather than when Amazon is facilitating my purchase
14:43<csnxs>>Perfect for Keyboarding, Gaming, or Typing
14:43<csnxs>wow, a keyboard for typing?
14:43<grawity>>keyboarding
14:43<csnxs>rofl how did I not notice that one
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14:54<acald3ron>a keaboard to press.
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15:49<Zimsky>shame that no one implements chaosnet any more
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15:57<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Can't get a TXT record right <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14849&p=73625#p73625>
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15:59<Nicky>hello
15:59<linbot>hi
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16:00<Nicky>We would be hosting an ERP on your server. But before that, I wanted to know what are the security features implemented in your server ?
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16:01<John>Hello
16:01<Nicky>hi John
16:01<John>Hi Nicky
16:01<John>Good day
16:01<John>I need some help
16:01<Nicky>sure... what would you need ?
16:01<dwfreed>Nicky: whatever you set up; you get a Linux system with full root access, everything else is up to you
16:02<John>Does linode sells SSL Certificate?
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16:02<John>or do I have to buy it from a 3rd party?
16:02<dwfreed>John: 3rd party
16:02<Nicky>so as such, there is no security provided on the server by default ?
16:03<John>nope
16:03<John>I have to install it
16:03<dwfreed>Nicky: correct
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16:03<John>and do I have to buy an additional IP?
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16:04<Nicky>in that case, I would highly appreciate if you could help me out. What security features can we implement to ensure there's no unauthorized access
16:05<John>what?
16:06<Nicky>I mean
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16:06<Nicky>what can we do to prevent unauthorized access ?
16:06<John>Nah, I'm not sure about that
16:07<John>I'm just a beginner here asking for help
16:07<John>:(
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16:07<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Can't get a TXT record right <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14849&p=73626#p73626>
16:08<Nicky>no worries John
16:08<Nicky>thanks for the update :)
16:08<Nicky>appreciate it
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17:58<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • StackScript output to a log? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=5426&p=73628#p73628>
18:01<csnxs>mcintosh: I just found that keybase message. I never knew a man could be that rude.
18:08<dwfreed>?
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23:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • blanchiment des dents sur lyon <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14851&p=73630#p73630>
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23:18<HappyDude>Hello. Can someone please tell me what processor Linode uses for standard plans? Site says Intel, but I'll be darned if I can find anywhere on the site that specifies which one(s).
23:19<MrPPS>HappyDude: I've got an E5 2680 v3 on one of mine
23:19<MrPPS>there's probably slight variation
23:20<HappyDude>ACK. I just noticed the E5 ... still does allow for quite a bit of variation.
23:21<HappyDude>MrPPS - are you happy with Linode? Good support?
23:21<MrPPS>Definitely!
23:21<MrPPS>Been a happy customer for many years
23:21<MrPPS>Definitely recommend
23:21<HappyDude>Hahahaha ... assuming you don't work for them ;)
23:21<MrPPS>Nah, I don't
23:21<MrPPS>only ops here work for them haha
23:22<HappyDude>Cool. Thanks for the replies.
23:22<HappyDude>Looks pretty good, well priced compared to everyone else.
23:22<HappyDude>Have a great night.
23:22<MrPPS>No worries at all - I'm also a DO customer
23:22<MrPPS>but Linode support is far more responsive
23:23<MrPPS>and no worries HappyDude, have a good night!
23:23<HappyDude>Me too. A little priceier, but not by much.
23:23<HappyDude>UpCloud is looking tempting as well.
23:23<HappyDude>Good to know. Thanks!
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23:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • i need some advice on whether or not it makes sense moving to linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14813&p=73565#p73565>
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