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---Logopened Fri Jun 02 00:00:16 2017
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00:44<himza>hi
00:46<himza>hi
00:46<himza>any one their ?
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00:55<bronz>hi
00:56<bronz>i have a server that i dont need to keep running all the time, but it stores a lot of data, is there some way to save money on it ? like if i shut it down when i dont need it
00:56<kyhwana>bronz: no, you still get charged for when a linode is shutdown
00:57<nate>bronz: You're not paying for a running linode, you're paying for an instance reservation basically
00:57<@armiller>bronz: If you want to preserve your data you can use `ssh` and `dd` to copy it over the network and delete the Linode
00:57<@armiller>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh/
00:59<bronz>armiller: copy it means ? i should download the entire image ? it has about 80gb of data
00:59<@armiller>Yes. Othewise Linode resources are being spent to store that data, which is what we charge for.
01:00<@armiller>Using `ssh` and `dd` like that is also pretty slow, but if you want to preserve your server without paying for it this is what I would recommend
01:02<bronz>i think i better keep it as it is
01:09<MrPPS>I agree
01:09<MrPPS>:)
01:11<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • nike free 3.0 flyknit mens <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14862&p=73651#p73651>
01:14*arlen buys some sneakers
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01:32<irCurts>does linode accept paypal? seems it does not?
01:34<Celti>You cannot sign up using PayPal, but once you've signed up with a valid credit/debit card you can make future payments via PayPal.
01:34<Celti>Note that you can obtain a debit card from PayPal that will suffice.
01:34<irCurts>gotcha, thank you very much.
01:35<irCurts>On the second re:... I am wanting to acutally use paypal credit but its not a paypal credit/debit card thing...
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01:36<Celti>I'm familiar with PayPal Credit, you can use it like any other PayPal payment source once you've signed up.
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01:38<Ikaros>(provided the merchant is willing to accept it)
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01:38<Ikaros>I've been through some merchant's Paypal payment gateways where they refuse the credit line and accept only bank transfer or credit/debit on the account.
01:39<irCurts>not very friendly eh?
01:39<Ikaros>Most merchants let all options stay on the table, per-se
01:39<irCurts>Lucky for me I think the suggestion Celti is perfect work around.
01:39<Ikaros>So you have nothing to fear there
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01:40<Ikaros>I'm just saying that there are a scattering of merchants that won't take it
01:40<Ikaros>That's all
01:40<irCurts>Me and Roger (American Dad), "We got big plans! Big plans I tell you."
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01:41<Celti>I've run into a couple merchants that don't accept it, but I'm pretty sure I paid my own Linode out of PayPal Credit a time or two
01:41<irCurts>G Suite or formaly Google Apps does not take paypal
01:42<irCurts>Though I think they accept paypal with some of their other services.
01:42<Celti>I've never seen a single Google offering that accepts PayPal instead of Google Wallet or whatever they're calling it now
01:42<irCurts>really?
01:43<Ikaros>Yeah he's right
01:43<irCurts>ok... its hard to get G Suite from any resellers with paypay too. Most wont accept it without a 12 month.
01:43<Ikaros>I had to pay for Domains straight out of my pocket
01:44<irCurts>I use namecheap for that Ikaros. they take the paypal
01:44<irCurts>also take bit coin there
01:45<Peng>They take PayPal, but not Discover.
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02:18<dcraig>how embarrassing for discover
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02:38<harper>hi
02:38<harper>somebody can help me?
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02:39<harper>my website can't open
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02:44<arlen>that's unfortunate
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03:46<nathansmonk>Is there an up to date revenue figure for lined published anywhere?
03:47<nathansmonk>*linode
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03:49<arlen>no
03:49<nathansmonk>ok
03:50<arlen>that's not something they discuss publicly
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03:52<dcraig>wikipedia has a number
03:53*arlen wikipedias dcraig
03:57*dcraig sous vides arlen
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04:09<arlen>tasty
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04:49<arlen>:(
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04:53*arlen roots rsdehart
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05:12<rsdehart>arlen: hey, you have to buy me dinner first, at least
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05:25<arlen>:P
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06:32<ravi>hello
06:33<ravi>someone there?
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06:44<Marco_>Hello
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07:22<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • VAT registration in UAE <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14863&p=73652#p73652>
07:23<nate>Pretty sure linode still doesn't do VAT does it?
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08:32<linbot>New news from forum: Sales Questions and Answers • Sharing Account logins with developers <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14864&p=73653#p73653>
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10:25<mrpmorris>Hi
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10:26<nbrewer>mrpmorris: hi, feel free to ask your question
10:26<mrpmorris>Would I be able to run MongoDB on the server?
10:27<nate>You can run anything within limits of the terms of service and what the hardware supports. Though I would beg the question of why anyone would wanna run mongodb >.>
10:27<nbrewer>yes, you can run just about whatever runs on Linux
10:28<nbrewer>you need to know how to install and configure it though
10:35<mrpmorris>ok, thanks
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10:43<ponas>/buffer 11
10:43<ponas>:(
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11:02<yyshin>hi can i add storage to my linode server ?'
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11:03<ponas>yyshin: only by upgrading to a bigger plan
11:04<yyshin>ok thanks
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12:02<avraajan>how do i use the promo code
12:02<avraajan>there is no where to enter it during sign up
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13:39<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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13:45<synfinatic>then you've come to the right place
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14:00<Nancy>Hi team, I want to ask about amount I need to payment, because I dont Know the amount for all services
14:00<Nancy>I register some services, but dont''t how much to pay.
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14:02<millisa>They bill you at the end of the month (or when you hit a threshold). The uninvoiced balance shows on the 'Account -> Account' tab.
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14:02<millisa>It'll say something like 'Uninvoiced Balance $123.45 and counting'
14:04<millisa>It also shows your current account balance in the same spot (that's the amount you'd need to get to them if you don't have it autobilling to a credit card)
14:04<Nancy>you mean when it says "" Uninvoiced balance $123.45 or when I hit a threshold and counting, and the end of month I need to pay it.
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14:04<Nancy>just one time in the end of month?
14:05<Nancy>or can I recieve any information for payment, I afraid of the Linode turn off our services.
14:05<millisa>In most cases, you just get the once a month bill. Some new accounts may get billed when the uninvoiced amount hits a threshold (it was $50 bucks on the last account that I had it happen on)
14:06<Nancy>I just want to know that When I recived the bill, and then I pay for it, right? after billed
14:07<millisa>It sends you email when it bills and when the bill is paid.
14:07<Nancy>oh, because I have ever recieved any bill like you said
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14:12<Nancy>hi team,
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14:13<voker57>Will I keep my extras & accumulated bonuses if I resize my linode? Also, are extras no longer available?
14:13<Nancy>I recieved the invoice at the end of month, but I dont know when the bill is paid
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14:19<DrJ>voker57, I believe you only lose all that if you upgrade to hourly billing
14:21<millisa>Nancy, most of my accounts have a second mail that comes in an hour or two after from the same address titles 'Linode.com: Payment Receipt [######]' when it successfully autopays the bill
14:21<millisa>er, titled
14:22<DrJ>yea, they do all the billing on the first of each month
14:22<DrJ>usually also immediatly after your invoice email
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14:25<Paramjeet_Singh>hi
14:26<DanielNM>hi
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14:26<DrJ>hi
14:26<Paramjeet_Singh>Actually i wnat to know
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14:26<Paramjeet_Singh>I live in India and i don't have credit or debit card yet
14:27<Paramjeet_Singh>can i use Prepaid virtual card for pay for linode plans
14:27<Paramjeet_Singh>Can someone help me?
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14:27<Paramjeet_Singh>what
14:29<DrJ>Paramjeet_Singh, if the "virtual card" is a visa, mastercard, etc then yes
14:29<Paramjeet_Singh>Please Someone help me?
14:29<Paramjeet_Singh>actually i use visa virtual card but they didn't accept
14:29<DrJ>and be patient, you don't have to ask for someone to help you every minute
14:29<Paramjeet_Singh>ok
14:30<DrJ>We accept Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express. We also accept PayPal, as well as checks and money orders (which must be in USD) made out to “Linode, LLC” and sent to our office address. Please contact support before paying with check or money order. Note that we do not accept bank/wire transfers.
14:30<DrJ>that's from their website
14:30<Paramjeet_Singh>actually i new to that chat system and i not know
14:30<Paramjeet_Singh>can i use Payoneer Virtual card?
14:32<DrJ>It appears you could use that Paramjeet_Singh
14:32<DrJ>looks like it is a mastercard number
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14:33<Paramjeet_Singh>which
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14:34<DrJ>But if not, do stores around you offer prepaid debit cards?
14:34<DrJ>I'm not from India, so I'm not sure if prepaid cards are sold there
14:35<DrJ>For example, you can buy a prepaid debit card from basically any store here in the USA
14:35<Paramjeet_Singh>Prepaid card is sold here by oxigen wallet
14:35<DrJ>and as long as they are visa, mastercard, discover, or american express they will be accepted by Linode
14:35<Paramjeet_Singh>here it's virtual prepaid card
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14:44<veecious>Some days i'm Linodin
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15:04<zifnab>!metar ksea
15:04<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KSEA: 64.4F/18C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 63.61F (altimeter: 30.13) [KSEA 021853Z 22010KT 10SM FEW020 SCT032 BKN070 18/09 A3013 RMK AO2 SLP208]
15:04<zifnab>mmm
15:04<Eugene>Ur a met
15:07<zifnab>Eugene: its friday, shouldn't you be drinking or playing with a kitty or something
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15:11<Eugene>Where do you think you dropped me off
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15:16<matt_>lmattd
15:16<matt_>change nickname
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15:17<scotti>not quite
15:17<scotti>/nick
15:17<scotti>but he's gone
15:17<scotti>so c ya
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15:45<zifnab>scotti's got a gun
15:45<zifnab>fuck what song is that
15:45<zifnab>i can't ifnd it
15:46<synfinatic>jamie's got a gun -- Aerosmith
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17:08<Ikaros>Hm.
17:08<Ikaros>!wx kdfw
17:08<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: F/C, visibility 1 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill -17.11F (altimeter: ) [KDFW 022106Z 30010G17KT 1 1/2SM R17C/1800VP6000FT TSRA BR FEW010 BKN026CB OVC060]
17:09<relidy>O.o That ... doesn't seem right
17:09<relidy>!wx kggg
17:09<linbot>relidy: [metar] OBS at KGGG: 84.2F/29C, visibility 10 miles, wind 10.36 mph, chill 88.43F (altimeter: 29.92) [KGGG 022053Z 07009KT 10SM SCT021 29/23 A2992 RMK AO2 SLP125 T02890228 56023]
17:11<Ikaros>Yeah relidy not sure what that's about.
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17:11<Ikaros>I'm checking the METAR data right now to see wtf is going on with that
17:11<Ikaros>Yeah, nothing's wrong with it, unless its choking on the "1 1/2"
17:12<arlen>!kgrb
17:12<arlen>!wx kgrb
17:12<linbot>arlen: [metar] OBS at KGRB: 84.2F/29C, visibility 10 miles, wind 6.90 mph, chill 88.40F (altimeter: 30.01) [KGRB 022053Z VRB06KT 10SM CLR 29/03 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP160 T02890033 56012]
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17:12<Ikaros>This is the current METAR from KDFW right now, pulled from aviationweather.gov: KDFW 022106Z 30010G17KT 1 1/2SM R17C/1800VP6000FT TSRA BR FEW010 BKN026CB OVC060 22/21 A2995 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT ALQDS FRQ LTGICCG SW-NW OCNL LTGICCG S TS S AND SW-NW MOV N P0003 T02170206
17:13<Ikaros>Oh I see what happened.
17:13<Ikaros>The bot choked on that string because there's a lot of data in it throwing it off
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17:14<Ikaros>See where it cuts it off?
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18:45<nitrofen>hey guys. noob question! if ill sign up for linode, is there any option to have windows server to install?
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19:25<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Debian 9 "Stretch" to be released on June 17, will Linode make it available soon after? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14865&p=73654#p73654>
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22:02<FluffyFoxeh>getting CPU alerts *every day* because I have a cronjob that pegs the CPU for 2 hours straight, can't be avoided
22:02<FluffyFoxeh>I guess I'll just have to disable the CPU alerts
22:03<FluffyFoxeh>or resize my linode so the job runs faster :p
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22:11<arlen>or raise the threshold for the alert
22:12<Eliz>pretty sure the threshold is pretty high as it stands
22:13<FluffyFoxeh>arlen: the problem is since the CPU is at 100% for so long, the threshold would have to be close to 100%
22:13<arlen>105%!
22:13<FluffyFoxeh>lol :p
22:14<FluffyFoxeh>it might actually make sense to ship this particular task to my home PC
22:14<FluffyFoxeh>since it's low-bandwidth, high disk space, high CPU
22:15<FluffyFoxeh>and my PC has way more CPU cores and disk space than my linode
22:15<FluffyFoxeh>(spam filter rule analysis)
22:17<zifnab>i've debated doing that with a mongo thing on one of my boxes
22:17<zifnab>its a long-running aggregate taht takes an eternity
22:17<zifnab>ship off a mongodump, go run it, use it for the day
22:20<Zimsky>or not run the cronjob
22:20<Zimsky>run a sneakernet
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22:25<FluffyFoxeh>not sure how a sneakernet would help here
22:25<FluffyFoxeh>:p
22:26<Zimsky>well
22:26<Zimsky>you can then catch all the sneakers I throw at you
22:26<Zimsky>a sneaker net
22:26<FluffyFoxeh>oh okay
22:26<FluffyFoxeh>that does sound useful
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