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---Logopened Mon Jun 12 00:00:30 2017
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00:38<Panseriya>Hello
00:38<millisa>greetings
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00:38<Panseriya>https://app.realtech.ai site is not working
00:38<millisa>why not?
00:38<Panseriya>Can you please look at it?
00:39<Panseriya>I am not sure what's that happening in the server. Is this a server issue?
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00:40<Romain>Hi
00:41<millisa>Panseriya: it doesn't look like that server is listening on port 443.
00:41<millisa>Hi, Romain
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00:42<Panseriya>Why?
00:42<Panseriya>I have already configured 443 port.
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00:43<millisa>is it open in the firewall?
00:43<Panseriya>sorry.
00:43<Panseriya>can you please elaborate?
00:44<millisa>Did you open port 443 in your firewall?
00:44<Panseriya>I have not configured firewall.
00:45<Panseriya>So, why that's the happenning.
00:45<millisa>what distribution did you install?
00:45<Panseriya>ubuntu
00:47<millisa>if you type 'sudo ufw status' what does it say?
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00:48<Panseriya>Status: active To Action From -- ------ ---- 22 ALLOW Anywhere 22 (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
00:49<millisa>that looks like an active firewall that doesn't have anything other than ssh open
00:49<Panseriya>HOW TO REMOVE FIREWALL FROM SERVER
00:49<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/firewalls/configure-firewall-with-ufw#add-rules
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00:49<Panseriya>right now, I need to site running as well
00:50<millisa>there is an example of opening port 80 and 443 in that add rules section
00:50<Panseriya>Please send me command for it
00:50<millisa>I sent you the doc that has them.
00:52<Panseriya>which ports need to add into rules
00:52<millisa>I guess the doc doesn't have 443 in that section. tcp port 80 is http. tcp port 443 is https.
00:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Create a new disk and then mount to my existing $20 instance <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14900&p=73728#p73728>
00:57<Panseriya>can you please wail few minuts..?
00:57<Panseriya>can you please wait few minuts..?
01:06<Panseriya>Now, it is working but what is the issue?
01:06<millisa>it looks like you opened the ports in your firewall
01:06<millisa>you didn't have them open
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01:17<shivaji>hi
01:17<millisa>greetings
01:17<shivaji>Please check my all website down
01:18<shivaji>User id - gauravmex
01:19<millisa>this is a community chat, you don't want to put your credentials here
01:19<millisa>what do your logs say?
01:20<shivaji>this is not my password
01:20<shivaji>this is user id
01:20<shivaji>This site can’t be reached gartexindia.com took too long to respond.
01:21<millisa>seems to load for me
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01:26<dcraig>millisaweb.org is very responsive
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01:30<sinojustin>Hi!
01:30<millisa>greetings
01:30<sinojustin>Greeting,Earth men and women!
01:30<sinojustin>I am a freshman in VPS area.
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01:32<sinojustin>I am looking for a VPS supplier who can offer good service and easy to operate.
01:32<millisa>you could try linode.
01:32<dcraig>ehhh, linode might work
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01:33<millisa>sinojustin: you might want to take a look at some of the docs to see how it works. This is good place to start: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
01:33<sinojustin>For a factory's business demostration website, Which size of the storage do you recommend me to use?
01:33<millisa>As much as you need?
01:33<dcraig>how big is your website?
01:34<arlen>this big | |
01:34<dcraig>holy cow
01:35<millisa>sinojustin: with linodes, it's easy to resize them if you find you need more resources
01:35<arlen>holy dog
01:35<sinojustin>OK.
01:35<sinojustin>@millisa
01:36<sinojustin>If we try with a small size, then when we need a larger one, we can easily transfer the size. Am I right?
01:36<dcraig>yes, it scales right up
01:36<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode
01:36<sinojustin>I mean start with.
01:37<millisa>To resize, you just shutdown, choose to resize, and then boot back up after the resize finishes. Small linodes only take a few minutes
01:41*dcraig has resized millisa twice now
01:41<millisa>I'm *huge* now.
01:42<dcraig>actually I shrunk you
01:42<millisa>I'm down to Huge!
01:43<millisa>no longer 'ginormous' or 'oh my god, it will destroy the city'
01:43<arlen>you're not huge, you just have big server rails
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02:08<sinojustin>Hi Millisa, Currently we are using the domestic sever supplier in mainland of China. The operator of our website said the new server space supplier need be be appliance with net 4.0
02:09<sinojustin>What does that mean, I think Linode is compliance with NET 4.0
02:09<sinojustin>Right?
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02:10<millisa>.net is a windows thing. linodes are generally linux systems
02:11<millisa>there's .net core stuff for linux that they put out, but I've never played with it.
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02:11<dwfreed>millisa: mono (or .net core)
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03:34<dcraig>I used mono once
03:34<dcraig>it actually worked for whatever I was trying to do
03:34<dcraig>I can't remember what that was
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03:36<nate>netflix?
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03:37*dcraig chills with nate
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03:41*FluffyFoxeh chills too
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03:45*dcraig tickles fluffyfoxeh around a bit with a large mahseer
03:45<dcraig>ah, the mahseer!
03:45<dcraig>never gets old
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04:12<gilbi>hi
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04:13<gilbi>you have cPanel to install in vps ?
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04:49<rsdehart>woo
04:49<rsdehart>rearranged my office to make better use of the space. The nook that had a wardrobe in it before accommodates my desk perfectly
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05:06<chris_>hi
05:07<chris_>hi
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05:20<scotti>Yo
05:21<scotti>so I just got served a Linode ad (from Google Ads) on teenvogue.com
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05:21<scotti>it was an anti-obama hit piece obviously orchestrated by right wing trolls
05:21<scotti>to distract from a current President's problems, yada yada yada
05:22<scotti>so my question: Is Linode in any way associated with this message?
05:22<scotti>Does Linode condone their advertisement showing up on a right wing hit piece?
05:22<scotti>http://www.teenvogue.com/story/obamas-drone-warfare-is-something-we-need-to-talk-about
05:22<scotti>here's the URL FYI
05:23<Peng>Teen Vogue runs right-wing hit pieces?
05:23<scotti>yeah lol
05:23<scotti>I was stunned
05:23<scotti>and there is a fat Linode ad on the top (for me at least)
05:23<nate>I doubt anyone in here cares what the URL is, nor does anyone ever really control where ads are shown on google outside of whether or not a site is considered "adult content" so :P
05:23<Peng>Are you sure it's not a left-wing hit piece?
05:24<scotti>nate: I know - but Linode might want to be conscious of where its ads are shown
05:24<scotti>companies are being more conscious about that sort of stuff these days
05:24<scotti>Peng: It's anti-Obama, but it came out 2 June
05:24<scotti>2017
05:24<scotti>it's clearly a hit piece to distract the readership from the current President's problems
05:25<nate>Pretty sure linode just likes sales. I imagine the only place they really care about ads going are like racist organization sites perhaps, past that who cares what ads end up on some silly site where people can post opinions? :P
05:25<Peng>First few grafs sound left-wing to me.
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05:26<scotti>nate: well sure - but our society is evolving to associate advertisers with content
05:26<scotti>Peng: it's right-wing stuff masquerading as left-wing, soft, anti-war rhetoric
05:26<nate>I dunno that I'd go that far but
05:27<scotti>here I am uploading a screenshot
05:27<scotti>big fat Linode ad
05:27<Peng>scotti: What
05:27<scotti>Peng: How was Obama relevant on 2 June 2017 ?
05:27<scotti>please explain
05:27<scotti>that was clearly a hit piece to distract the public from Trump's controversies
05:27<scotti>....... and a big fat Linode ad :P
05:27<scotti>to sell me VPS
05:28<nate>it's teenvogue, I highly doubt anyone really gives a shit what someone's opinions are that have to post on teenvogue, at least anyone who actually cares to get a linodel
05:28<nate>*lol
05:29<hawk>scotti: I would assume the ad is shown there based on *you*, not so much based on the surrounding content. The whole premise of your reasoning seems a little odd to me.
05:29<scotti>hawk: well yes of course
05:29<scotti>but I still think Linode should be conscious
05:29<scotti>where its ads are shown, etc
05:30<scotti>what if it showed up on a Neo-Nazi website
05:30<hawk>scotti: Please stop visiting those sites and the problem will go away :P
05:30<scotti>or a "Burn down all Data Centers" websites
05:30<Peng>The rest of the article also sounds pretty left-wing.
05:31<Peng>nate: Teen Vogue is pretty good
05:39<scotti>http://imgur.com/a/GxL2y
05:39<scotti>there it is
05:40<scotti>takes up nearly 50% of the page too
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05:55<arlen>oh well
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06:14<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Malware monitoring / on-line scanner <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13779&p=73729#p73729>
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07:10<asabih>hello
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07:11<asabih>I need help, i want to know whether Linode have servers in HongKong with direct link to China? I am looking for hosting in HK with direct link to china for better connectivity in China
07:13<dzho>doesn't the Great Firewall make "direct link to China" something that no one has?
07:13<dzho>asabih: ^^^^
07:36<asabih>by direct link i mean that hosting does not rout the request via US, but directly to China
07:36<asabih>alot of Hk based hostings direct requests Via US Servers
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07:41<sandeep>the closest they have is japan/singapore
07:47<Meyer__>asabih: I did some traces from Linodes Singapore and Tokyo locations towards a server I have in Beijing and the traffic does not pass the us for this particular path
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07:47<Meyer__>asabih: Latency from Tokyo is approximately 100ms and goes from linode -> ntt -> china telecom
07:48<Meyer__>asabih: From singapore it is 175ms and goes linode -> ntt -> ntt japan (osaka) > china telecom
07:49<Meyer__>asabih: Sorry, china unicom on the last one
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07:55<asabih>great thanks.. so Linode have servers in HK aswell?
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08:02<Meyer__>asabih: no
08:02<Meyer__>asabih: Tokyo and Singapore
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08:07<asabih>ok thank you so much
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10:42<MajObviousman>so 14.04's bind9 package doesn't support CAA
10:42<MajObviousman>looks like I'm upgrading to systemd :(
10:42*ctarquini likes systemd
10:42<tmberg>:O
10:43*MajObviousman is slowly making his peace with systemd
10:43<@ctarquini>I understand the opposition to it but in my day-to-day systemd makes life so much easier in many cases
10:43<Peng>MajObviousman: You could ender CAA records using RFC 3597 syntax.
10:44<Peng>enter*
10:44<@ctarquini>super easy to create new services that just work (journaling, if I need log files it's just adding a line to rsyslog, restart on failure, etc, etc)
10:44<Peng>Or you could use a different nameserver \o/
10:44<Peng>https://launchpad.net/~cz.nic-labs/+archive/ubuntu/knot-dns :P
10:44<@ctarquini>easy to modify other services without editing files that get overwritten by updates
10:45<@ctarquini>dependencies are easy to define
10:45<MajObviousman>I'm not super pleased with BIND, but it has worked fine thus far
10:45<MajObviousman>might consider a different software, but for now I just wanna whack the CAA records into my domains and move on
10:47<Peng>You can do that RFC 3597 style.
10:47<Peng>Though IMO upgrading is better. Or using a different nameserver. ;)
10:49<tmberg>Nsd ftw!
10:49*MajObviousman needs to upgrade
10:49<MajObviousman>I need to go over my server and find all the non-devops'd things, then stick them into states
10:49<MajObviousman>over time that list has grown
10:50<Peng>tmberg: Not on Ubuntu. It's in universe and they never patch it.
10:50<Peng>Though the version in Trusty *does* support CAA without RFC 3597.
10:50<MajObviousman>tmberg: opportunityt o step up and be maintainer
10:52<tmberg>Still nsd ftw! ;) =)
10:54<Peng>I like NSD, but unmaintained NSD. If you use it on Ubuntu, IMO you should use Debian or be prepared to backport patches.
10:54<Peng>but not unmaintained*
10:54<Peng>Though i use Knot now, for other reasons.
10:55*MajObviousman rolls the rFC 3597 syntax, grimaces a bit but it passes the rndc reload
10:59<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:08<synfinatic>good morning world
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11:12<jeremiah>morn!
11:12<jeremiah>I'm having a spot of trouble booting my linode, after 641 days of uptime
11:12<jeremiah>I'm running Debian Jessie with systemd
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11:12<scotti>so what's the issue
11:13<jeremiah>It hangs in dev-sdb.service
11:13<jeremiah>Sorry, dev-sdb.device
11:14<jeremiah>I wonder if its checking for a device that doesn't exist?
11:15<scotti>hm
11:15<jeremiah>And now it says "Dependency failed for /dev/sdb"
11:15<scotti>dunno
11:15<scotti>maybe ask in #debian
11:15<scotti>they are pretty active on this network
11:15<jeremiah>Okay, perhaps I'll do that.
11:16<jeremiah>Thing is, I wonder if something is happening with the disknaming at Linode which might cause this problem?
11:19<akerl>do you have a /dev/sdb?
11:20<grawity>do you have udev?
11:20<jeremiah>I don't think I do
11:20<jeremiah>I assume I have udev
11:20<jeremiah>Thing is the machine won't boot so I can't check. :/
11:20<jeremiah>I'm in LISH at the moment
11:20<@mcintosh>do you have a ticket open?
11:20<grawity>boot to rescue system, remove /dev/sdb from your fstab, then try again
11:20<akerl>I'd probably just make a crap disk and attach it as /dev/sdb :P
11:20<jeremiah>mcintosh: Not yet
11:21<grawity>assuming it's the default setup of sdb being a swap disk
11:21<jeremiah>grawity: I have a Swap and I think that is it
11:21<jeremiah>I'll drop into finnix and check the disk's fstab
11:23<jeremiah>I removed the /dev/sdb in the web inteface, it was swap
11:23<jeremiah>I'm rebooting now.
11:23<akerl>Um
11:23<akerl>If it's in fstab, and you removed it from the web interface, that'll make things *worse*, not better :P
11:24<jeremiah>Why?
11:24<jeremiah>Isn't the web interface connected to fstab?
11:24<jeremiah>I guess I'm assuming.
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11:26<jeremiah>I'll boot into single user mode
11:26<jeremiah>and check the fstab
11:31<@jfred>oh hey it's an akerl
11:31<@jfred>o/
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11:35<jeremiah>So udev is on the system and /dev/sdb looks pretty generic:
11:35<rodolfojcj>hello everybody
11:35<jeremiah>"dev/sdb none swap sw 0 0"
11:35<rodolfojcj>I have a friend of mine that is trying to support a very legacy application, which is know to work with Ubuntu 8.04 distribution
11:35<rodolfojcj>he wants to use a VPS to run that application and now I want to know if Linode platform would allow some way to install and run a quite old distribution like Ubuntu 8.04
11:35<rodolfojcj>thanks!
11:36<akerl>jfred: o/
11:36<akerl>jeremiah: No, the web interface controls what block devices the host server gives your VM. fstab controls what your VM does with those block devices
11:36<akerl>2 separate layers
11:36<jeremiah>akerl: Ah, okay. Thank you
11:36<akerl>rodolfojcj: You could but you shouldn't
11:37<rodolfojcj>akerl: could you please elaborate the reasons?
11:37<dwfreed>security
11:37<akerl>Because 8.04 hasn't seem a security update in quite some time
11:37<akerl>s/seem/seen/
11:38<dwfreed>8.04 has not been maintained for a long time; it's vulnerable to shellshock, among dozens of other things
11:40<rodolfojcj>ok. Very reasonable. Is it then possible to create some kind of private network to allow access only to some people?
11:40<rodolfojcj>what he wants is to "make it run" somehow
11:40<akerl>Why doesn't it work on newer ubuntu
11:44<rodolfojcj>I don't know the precise details. What it know is that it's a legacy and unmaintained Java + Tomcat based application he received within the company he works, being known that, for some reason to be discovered later, it only works with that Ubuntu 8.04 distribution
11:45<akerl>Sounds like somebody should figure out why
11:45<jeremiah>So removing the swap on /dev/sdb prevented the systemd timeout, but now the boot hangs at:
11:46<jeremiah>nf_conntrack: default automatic helper assignment has been turned off for security reasons and CT-based firewall rule not found. Use the iptables CT target to attach helpers instead.
11:46<rodolfojcj>yes, I' ashamed my friend is that "somebody"
11:46<jeremiah>That looks like a iptables issue
11:46<grawity>it doesn't hang at that
11:46<grawity>that just happens to be the last message it prints at current loglevel
11:46<jeremiah>ah
11:47<grawity>you don't know for sure what else it has been trying to do, especially with parallel boot
11:47<jeremiah>Good point
11:47<ponas>rodolfojcj: tell your friend that it cannot be done :-)
11:47<ponas>without a time machine
11:48<rodolfojcj>je je je
11:49<rodolfojcj>I thought about using a locally installed virtual machine with Virtual Box to run Ubuntu 8.04, but then I asked myself how to make it remotely available
11:49<akerl>"don't"
11:50<jeremiah>Well, I guess I'll boot into single user mode and try and bring ups services and see what hangs
11:50<akerl>that's really the whole point here: 8.04 isn't fit to be remotely available
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14:25<Sally>Hello
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14:26<Sally>I have forgotten my login
14:26<Suzzy>hi, i'll preface this by saying i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing. we have a linode account with a debian 6 profile (whatever that means) that we use for VPN access. i'm trying to figure out how many active users we have and, if possible, activity. is there some way to do that?
14:26<Sally>for bad-dogs.co.uk DNS
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14:26<akerl>Welp
14:27<akerl>Suzzy: Yes but not in a way that's straightforward to describe
14:27<@jalter>Sally: If you don't remember your username, please visit https://manager.linode.com/ and click "Forgot username". You'll need your email address.
14:27<grawity>Suzzy: depends on the VPN software you're using, for a start
14:27<@jalter>oh..
14:27<@jalter>Sally is gone.
14:27<Suzzy>the tech dude sends me openVPN credentials
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14:27<Suzzy>and we use openVPN for the gui'
14:28<grawity>then count the logins in /var/log/<wherever OpenVPN log messages go>
14:29<Suzzy>and what sort of program would i use for that /var/log/<wherever OpenVPN log messages go>?
14:29<Suzzy>i have a windows pc and a little mac pro.
14:32<akerl>Have the tech dude SSH in
14:32<grawity>PuTTY from the former, `ssh` from the latter, but
14:33<@jalter>Suzzy: from the way you prefaced your question, I'm assuming that you don't have much experience with Linux or working with the command line. If that's true, you'll probably need to have your tech dude (or a different tech dude) handle that.
14:33<grawity>obtain the root credentials from whoever manages the server
14:33<@jalter>One option would be our tech dudes...
14:33<@jalter>!pro
14:33<linbot>https://www.linode.com/professional-services
14:34<Suzzy>OK. no i don't have a linux type system, i do have CMD or MS powershell. would either of those work for this? and thanks for the tip about SSH & root credentials.
14:35<@jalter>You can install PuTTY on Windows to connect over SSH https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/ssh/using-putty
14:35<Suzzy>i guess CMD is actually a DOS command prompt?
14:35<millisa>or you could use your mac pro. it has ssh at the terminal
14:35<@jalter>but that Debian 6 profile means that your server is running Linux - so you'll be using a Linux commandline once you connect over SSH.
14:35<grawity>...kind of, in the same way that Terminal in macOS is "actually a Linux command prompt"
14:37<grawity>what sort of vpn is that though
14:37<Suzzy>thanks very much for the information and the link, i do appreciate it. i'll get out of your hair now.
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15:11<JoVPS>Hi there, can anyone help me out with a billing question?
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15:12<millisa>if it's not specific to your account, someone here might be able to
15:13<JoVPS>I have a prepaid mastercard giftcard that I want to put to good use and rent a Linode server, but does anyone know it you can use these?
15:13<akerl>Set it as the credit card on your account?
15:13<akerl>and then spend money?
15:13<JoVPS>it is a regular mastercard with expiry date and cvc and such
15:13<akerl>Cool
15:14<akerl>Drop it in like one
15:14<JoVPS>either as an regular card or use it to add funds to my account
15:15<akerl>Yup
15:17<JoVPS>akerl, you are sure?
15:17<akerl>Pretty sure, why?
15:18<JoVPS>I wasn' t sure if your answer was directed at me or someone else who asked an earlier question :)
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15:30<taz>is teh pricing in linode website in USD or CAD
15:30<Peng>USD
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15:31<taz>thank you
15:31<taz>so Linode 1GB $5/mo is $5 USD/month
15:32<@sjacobs>taz: yes.
15:33<taz>ok thanks
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15:38<JoVPS>Does anyone know how long the "Your account is currently being reviewed" process usually takes?
15:42<dzho>depends. you didn't try to pay in bitcoin, did you?
15:43<dzho>oh, prepay mc
15:43<dzho>good question
15:43*dzho has some of those I've been thinking of using, but then again, I have an established account so I anticipate fewer problems.
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15:43<dzho>my guess, and it's only a guess--this might hinge on whether you've registered the card with ID information or not.
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15:45<JoVPS>well it would appear there is a problem, it says it should take only minutes.. it has been a quarter of an hour so far :(
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15:46<akerl>that's 15 minutes
15:46<dzho>akerl: also, hi. been a while.
15:46<akerl>:D howdy
15:47<JoVPS>that's true, but "You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!" implies less then that :)
15:47<dwfreed>few is not a defined number
15:47<JoVPS>ah, I see we are getting into symantics today :)
15:47<@jalter>Point taken - we should probably change tha
15:47<dwfreed>you'll get an email, just have patience
15:47<@jalter>that*
15:48<JoVPS>the money was succesfully pilfered from the card, so that process did work like a treat
15:48<@jalter>We see more signups and more tickets than we did when we first created that message, and the review process takes a bit longer now.
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15:49<akerl>Should just feed it into a tensorflow deployment
15:49<dzho>and the mismatch generates more tickets, increasing the time-per-ticket, in a vicious circle
15:49<dwfreed>JoVPS: a valid card is an important part of the review; if they can't successfully charge the card for the amount requested, there's no point in even looking at the rest of the signup
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15:49<dzho>step 1: get paid
15:50<akerl>step 2: mo problems?
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15:51<@jalter>JoVPS: you should be all set now
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15:55<JoVPS>yes, awesome thank you! Did you manually shuffle it along, or did it process automatically?
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15:55<@jalter>we gave it a nudge for you
15:55<@jalter>would have taken a bit longer otherwise
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15:56<JoVPS>cool, excellent service!
15:56<@jalter>thanks!
15:56<JoVPS>but it's good to know that patience would have been a virtue :)
16:02<atrus>"patience would have been a virtue" i found that funnier than i probably should :)
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16:04<rkm>newb question - is there any official linode support here (pre-sales)?
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16:04<atrus>!ops
16:04<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
16:04<atrus>rkm: ^
16:06<rkm>@linbot thanks much -- quick question, I searched the site and google, but could not find pricing on linode DNS / DNS Manager?
16:06<millisa>it doesn't cost extra. you just need to have 1 linode running.
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16:07<millisa>provisioned?
16:07<Eugene> That's the word
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16:08<rkm>It seems like that could be abused because, in theory, you could have dozens of zones/domains, despite only one provisioned node?
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16:08<rkm>I'm not proposing to do so, I'm only explaining the source of my confusion :)
16:08<grawity>zones don't need many resources
16:09<millisa>it's fine if you do. you could have hundreds of domains on one linode.
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16:09<@jalter>rkm: some people do that. we're OK with it :)
16:10<rkm>also, another thing I searched (unsuccessfully) are sample files for different regions. For example, when you see companies advertise on a site such as WHT, they often give a link to a page that has sample downloads for their various datacenter. Does linode offer a sample page like this?
16:10<@mcintosh>!speedtest
16:10<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
16:10<@mcintosh>rkm: ^
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16:11<rkm>you guys are amazing, this is the best idea for support yet .. normally I'd be 20 minutes in, being asked whether my system is plugged-in, having re-asked the same question 50 times with cut-and-paste irrelevant answers .. just to get to this point!
16:12<@jalter>thanks :) but most of the answers you got came from our awesome community
16:13<millisa>*is* your system plugged in?
16:14<rkm>@jalter absolutely, exactly what I meant in being such a great idea for support! ..and thank you all, btw
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16:14<hellohi>hello
16:14<millisa>greetings
16:14<Meyer__>rkm: And for the record Linodes official support is also excellent
16:14<rkm>I just ran through the speed tests .. best I received was about 16 Mbps on the node nearest to me (Atlanta, I'm in South Florida)
16:15<hellohi>Noob question. Are all linode instances considered managed thus all have the free cpanel license?
16:15<millisa>rkm: that might be your isp. the tiniest linode can go quite a bit beyond that
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16:15<millisa>hellohi: no
16:15<hellohi>Thanks millisa
16:15<@jalter>hellohi: If you're looking for an incident response service, Linode Managed is great. If all you want is cPanel, it'd be less expensive to get a separate license
16:16<millisa>if you go for the managed offering, each linode in that account is going to cost $100 more a monht
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16:16<Marklin>I have a Cloud hosting question
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16:16<relidy>!to Marklin ask
16:16<linbot>Marklin: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
16:16<@jalter>https://www.licensepal.com seems reasonable but I haven't used them before
16:16<millisa>https://www.buycpanel.com/ is about the same price. i have used them.
16:16<rkm>nodes, no matter the package, all have 1-Gbps down, I believe. Our current colo (also in Atlanta) will typically get me a file in about 80 Mbps down .. Is the reason for the 16-Mbps in my test, network congestion, or is there a limiting factor?
16:17<Marklin>Cool..Does anyone know if Linode Takes Purchase Orders for payment and if you can be charged by them annauly as oppsed to monthly?
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16:18<Meyer__>rkm: I just tried downloading the speedtest file from Atlanta and I got approx 80 Mbps. I am located in Sweden
16:19<rkm>So, just to be certain we're on the same page, roughly 10 MB/sec, correct?
16:19<relidy>Marklin: I believe the answer to both of your questions is no. Older accounts (pre-hourly billing) may still have annual billing for some/all Linodes, but that's no longer available. Last I heard someone speak up, non-CC/Paypal billing is only available for really large accounts.
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16:19<Meyer__>rkm: yeah
16:19<Marklin>thanks relidy. appreciate the feedback!
16:20<@jalter>Everyone can make PayPal payments now (but you need to manually initiate them, or else it'll charge your card). Checks and money orders in USD are OK https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments
16:20<@jalter>You can still prepay annually - you'll just use up that credit over the course of a year rather than have it hit your credit card
16:20<@jalter>We can help you out with an estimate on our letterhead if you need it
16:20<relidy>!point jalter
16:20<linbot>relidy: Point given to jalter. (2)
16:20<rkm>Thank you @Meyer__, super helpful.
16:20<Marklin>yes thanks @jalter!
16:21<@jalter>You're welcome!
16:22<Marklin>Have a great day everyone :-)
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16:22<rkm>Also (and sorry to bombard you) does linode offer block-storage or other behind-the-linode/same location, storage option, for those that need more space? Does not need to be SSD. And no "oneclick" distributions, eg LAMP, is that right?
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16:23<synfinatic>nope. not yet
16:23<Peng>It's in development. :<
16:23<@jalter>it's coming really really really soon
16:23<@jalter>we do have one-click deploys in the form of StackScripts. https://www.linode.com/stackscripts/
16:23<@jalter>you can use one in the library or make your own
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16:25<rkm>thank you all, @jalter - no sort of workaround, max storage behind linode router is limited to the node purchased, to confirm? When it is offered, it will be a block-storage option and SSD or will there be a "colder" storage option such as traditional magnetic HDD's?
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16:27<@jalter>That part I'm not sure of yet
16:27<@jalter>Someone else probably knows but information is sparse since it's still in development
16:29<rkm>@jalter: thank you - also the stackscripts and having them indexed for search, excellent.
16:31<@jalter>You're welcome :)
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16:35<rkm>Okay .. hopefully last couple questions .. is there a vpc-like feature (referring to aws' vpc approach) where linode supports a private network between provisioned nodes, and/or any sort of interface to tunnel-in? Or of there is a vpn-like feature, must we provision a node and run our own tunneling solution (eg OpenVPN)?
16:36<voker57>don't think there's such a feature, you can run openvpn on any node and connect to it with others
16:36<rkm>oh and on the related point -- multiple IP's can be provisioned, or everything needs to go through justification requests?
16:36<voker57>you can also try p2p vpn solutions like tinc
16:37<rkm>voker57: great, thank you. But linode instances do support a private network / out-of-band network separate from the public IP / NIC?
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16:39<voker57>Yes.
16:39<voker57>if your linodes are in same datacenter
16:40<akerl>The private network is private to the datacenter, not private to you
16:40<@caker>Linode instances support a non-routable 192.168 range which you can use for LAN traffic. Or, you can also just use your v6 addresses - local v6 traffic is also not counted against your transfer quotas
16:40<akerl>So if I have a server in dallas, and you have a server in dallas, and we both click the "Add Private IPv4" button, our servers can hit each other on that 192.168.128.0/17 network
16:42<rkm>perfect, thank you!
16:42<rkm>...about multiple public IPv4 IP's?
16:42<Peng>!ips
16:42<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
16:42<@caker>!ips
16:42<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
16:42<Peng>D:
16:42<dzho>jinx!
16:44<Eugene>Jigglypuff
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16:45<rkm>I'm so dense .. I thought for sure that was a type-o on the network size, completely missed the IPv6 note
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16:46<rkm>thanks so much for all the great support everyone, have a great day.
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17:08<JuanPablo>Hello, I have a instance with Fedora2.5, and I need to enable it to send mails. I'm trying to test with command "telnet smtp.gmail.com 465" but it don't works... I flushed the firewall and I don't know why don't run
17:08<relidy>JuanPablo: What error are you getting?
17:09<JuanPablo>Trying 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::6d...
17:09<JuanPablo>And can´t conect...
17:10<relidy>Can you ping that IP?
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17:15<JuanPablo>Hum, no, have no ping...
17:15<JuanPablo>But I don't understand, the firewall is down...
17:16<relidy>If you "ping6 smtp.gmail.com", do you get different behavior than trying to ping that IP specifically?
17:17<JuanPablo>No, the same result...
17:17<relidy>What about IPv4? Just "ping smtp.gmail.com".
17:19<JuanPablo>This is the answer: "From li563-188 (2600:3c03::636d:f999:a05b:c407) icmp_seq=9 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable"
17:19<relidy>Can you actually ping anything?
17:20<JuanPablo>Ouch, no...
17:22<millisa>are you using lish or are you ssh'd in?
17:22<JuanPablo>ssh'd
17:24<millisa>throw the output of these 4 commands into a pastebin/vomitb.in : 'ip addr show' 'ip route show' 'ip neigh show nud all' 'iptables-save'
17:25<JuanPablo>ip addr show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: dummy0: <BROADCAST,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether d2:a6:ff:e7:4c:3e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:f
17:25<millisa>use pastebin or vomitb.in
17:25<relidy>!to JuanPablo paste
17:25<linbot>JuanPablo: Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
17:25<millisa>or that
17:25<relidy>Or whatever, just not inline :)
17:26<JuanPablo>I'm sorry
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17:28<JuanPablo>https://bpaste.net/show/283f6f866989
17:29<JuanPablo>https://bpaste.net/show/af0d55015a1f
17:29<Peng>IPv6 privacy IP /o\
17:30<JuanPablo>https://bpaste.net/show/bfc45f8d890e
17:30<Peng>Has Linode started using IPv4 gateways outside the IP's /24?
17:31<Peng>Oh, never mind, two IPs.
17:32<Peng>JuanPablo: Need to stop your OS from using a random IPv6 privacy IP.
17:32<millisa>i was able to ping your 2 ipv4 addresses from a dallas linode
17:33<JuanPablo>https://bpaste.net/show/178cf144e5d5
17:33<JuanPablo>Ok.
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17:36<JuanPablo>Peng, can you tell me what I need to do to solve this please?
17:37<Peng>I'm not sure. It depends on your OS and configuration, and i don't remember all hte tricks.
17:40<millisa>if you are using network manager, nmcli conn show "Wired connection 1" - look for the ip6-privacy and the addr-gen-mode line
17:40<JuanPablo>Millisa, in linode c-panel?
17:41<millisa>at the shell
17:41<JuanPablo>Ok, I'm gonna do it, very thanks.
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17:47<millisa>so what did it say for the ip6-privacy and addr-gen-mode lines?
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17:50<JuanPablo>millisa...ipv6.ip6-privacy: -1 (unknown)
17:50<JuanPablo>ipv6.addr-gen-mode: stable-privacy
17:50<millisa>change the addr-gen-mode to eui64: nmcli c modify "Wired connection 1" ipv6.addr-gen-mode eui64
17:52<JuanPablo>Ok, I did it, but have no ping yet...
18:00<millisa>if you re-run that show command ( nmcli conn show "Wired connection 1" ) , does it show the change to the ipv6.addr-gen-mode?
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18:03<millisa>you may need to reboot after making the change to get the right ipv6 address assigned
18:04<JuanPablo>Ok, I'm gonna reboot the instance...
18:04<millisa>when it comes back, check your ipv6 address with 'ip addr show' and see if it matches the one in your linode manager on the Remote Access tab.
18:05<Peng>Or that the right half matches that of the "fe80::" one
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18:13<JuanPablo>Millisa, I have ping now!!!
18:13<millisa>hooray!
18:14<JuanPablo>Have I to do something more for don´t lose this configuration?
18:14<millisa>it seems to have survived the reboot
18:14<millisa>reboot again and test
18:15<JuanPablo>Ok, please don't go yet...
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18:20<JuanPablo>Millisa, I did reboot again and it's OK...
18:20<millisa>great
18:20<JuanPablo>Very, very thanks.
18:20<relidy>!point millisa
18:20<linbot>relidy: Point given to millisa. (23) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7]
18:21<millisa>oooh, that's new
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18:21<arlen>!point linbot
18:21<linbot>arlen: Point given to linbot. (1337)
18:25<@mcintosh>lol at the mix of brackets and parens... will need to fix that
18:26<@mcintosh>that's actually not new but the frequency with which ive chosen to display the "biggest fan" line is far too low - basically never appears
18:26<millisa>New to me then
18:29<arlen>and me
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19:23<@mcintosh>!point millisa
19:23<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to millisa. (24) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7)
19:23<@mcintosh>should show up more often now :D
19:24<millisa>!point mcintosh
19:24<linbot>millisa: Point given to mcintosh. (11)
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19:25<arlen>hmm that biggest fan could get annoying after awhile. getting highlight notifications from it
19:25*FluffyFoxeh points a big fan at arlen
19:26*arlen falls asleep to the soothing fan noise
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19:28<chris_>hi is it possible to got more than 1 ip adress for 1 server?
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19:28<millisa>!ips
19:28<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
19:28<chris_>thx
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19:33<Cromulent>ouch https://developers.slashdot.org/story/17/06/10/0450234/developer-accidentally-deletes-production-database-on-their-first-day-on-the-job I wouldn't like to be in his position - hope he is alright though
19:33<Cromulent>it is kind of the companies fault for not having working backups
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19:45<kyhwana>Cromulent: didn't that show up on reddit first?
19:45<kyhwana>(they got hella fired)
19:46<millisa>yeah, it was linked in the slashdot summary near the end of it
19:46<SleePy>reddit > qc > slashdot > tumblr > reddit repost
19:47<SleePy>Then the ccycle starts all over
19:48<synfinatic>hard to believe /. is still a thing
19:48*synfinatic still remembers when people were "slashdotted"
19:48<synfinatic>also, get off my lawn
19:50<Cromulent>I just get a slashdot email once every now and again with the news in it
19:50<SleePy>There was also the dig effect
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20:40<obsideus>Wow, haven't been into an IRC channel in a long time
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20:45<obsideus>anyone ever use these webuzo stackscripts?
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21:47<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13918&p=73734#p73734> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Request: Linode Firewall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7537&p=73733#p73733> || General Discussion • Longview: Your system's clock is slow. Please ensure that ntp is installed and running. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14769&p=73732#p73732>
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22:07<Guest2291>hello
22:08<Guest2291>anyone here?
22:08<MrPPS>Yes
22:08<MrPPS>Most of us
22:08<Guest2291>i have problem
22:09<linbot>Guest2291: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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22:11<Guest2291>someone hack my hosting and add some link in my website with new post and i try to look the website owner and saw in nameserver is linode . will you help me for the hacker get punish
22:11<akerl>!abuse
22:11<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
22:12<praetorian>!abuse akerl
22:12<MrPPS>Guest2291: it's also worth checking if the IP address the website resolves to is a linode IP address, or if it's only using linode's nameservers to serve the records
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22:13<Guest2291>its only using linode nameserver
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22:14<MrPPS>If it's only using linode nameserver, then it's not really linode's abuse department you'll want to deal with
22:14<MrPPS>okay see ya
22:14<MrPPS>haha
22:30<obsideus>I tried using one of the Webuzo stackscripts to install clipbucket. But I can't access the webuzo panel from my ip
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22:37<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Migrating from Rackspace <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14886&p=73699#p73699> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Request: Linode Firewall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7537&p=73698#p73698> || General Discussion • Direct Disk Boot problem <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14882&p=73697#p73697>
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