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00:08<kryo2k>needed to enable auto-network config in control panel, wipe out file in /etc/udev, reboot and voila all is working
00:09<kryo2k>dem migrations doh.
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00:19<Zimsky>huh, MrPPS' magic fingers actually worked
00:28<MrPPS>haha, glad you've got it sorted kryo2k
00:29<kryo2k>not nearly as glad as i am :)
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00:46<Zimsky>idk, MrPPS can get pretty glad
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01:00<Chris_>I'm in need of more ram for my Linode. Currently running the Linode 12288 plan
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01:04<Zimsky>download it
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01:12<MrPPS>guessing he hasn't seen the high memory plans yet
01:14<FluffyFoxeh>step one is to figure out why you need more ram
01:14<arlen>step 0 - coffee
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01:35<dcraig>I don't get the naming scheme at all
01:35<dcraig>a Linode 16 is a high memory plan, but a Linode 80 clearly has more memory, but it's a low memory plan
01:37<MrPPS>are they still partly named by cost + RAM size, instead of all RAM size?
01:38<FluffyFoxeh>The Linode 80 also costs 10 times as much so it makes sense to me
01:38<dcraig>is FluffyFoxeh high memory or low memory?
01:39<FluffyFoxeh>I'm very high memory
01:39<dcraig>is that like a new category?
01:40<MrPPS>alpha stage
01:40<MrPPS>block storage as ram
01:44*arlen buys a dcraig 5000
01:45<dcraig>no cpu, no storage, no transfer
01:45<dcraig>but 5 TB of ram :D
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01:50<dcraig>you're renting sticks of RAM
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02:21<Shahzoor>Help with nginx configuration please.
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02:23<Shahzoor>this is my domain (its a wordpress multisite). I have a SSL certificate for from Let's Encrypt. I want nginx to force HTTPS and configure SSL keys in nginx.
02:25<Shahzoor>Did, its loading my other certificate and giving error
02:26<MrPPS>or, a combo of "letsencrypt nginx $YOUR_OS" will lead you to a few different pages
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02:28<Shahzoor>What is wrong here? -
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02:31<arlen>you're missing two things from the first link MrPPS gave
02:31<Shahzoor>rebuilding. Thanks
02:31<arlen>ssl_certificate and ssl_certificate_key
02:31<MrPPS>Also, any reason you're using spdy?
02:32<MrPPS>what's in the "include" you're including?
02:33<MrPPS>if you do an nginx config test, what errors is it giving you? <--- this is normally a good place to start for self-troubleshooting
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03:01<Leonids>hi, i just sent a question via email to will i get a response or do i need to sign up for an account first?
03:02<millisa>They respond to more than just existing accounts
03:03<Leonids>:) got it thanks
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03:56<Shahzoor>Hi guys! Need help with NGINX configuration. Multiple SSL in one. This is my current conf - I want to look for one certificate and for, look for another certificate. Both domains root are same. As Let's Encrypt don't publish certificate for wildcard domains, I have to create seperate server blocks. I dont know how
03:57<grawity>you can have multiple domains in a single certificate
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03:58<Shahzoor>sudo -H ./letsencrypt-auto certonly --standalone -d -d
03:58<grawity>you're probably missing a -d before the last one, but otherwise yes
03:58<Shahzoor>Yeah thanks!
03:58<Shahzoor>It gives me error, I should use --webroot?
03:59<Shahzoor>It prompts for path of root, right?
03:59<Shahzoor>Cool grawity! Saved me again.
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06:04<Faisal>Hi I want to change my server from Linode 1GB to Linode 60GB would it destroy my previous VPS and will create a new VPS or I can upgrade my current instance to required instance.
06:05<Woet>did you check your control panel?
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06:34<microvb>Got this cute notice today, thought I would share : "Current kernel version is out of date. running kernel: 4.9.15-x86_64-linode81, most recent kernel: 3.10.0-514.21.2.el7.x86_64 Update the system’s software by running ’yum update’ from the command line and reboot the system."
06:34<Woet>yum? disgusting.
06:34<Woet>cPanel? disgusting.
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07:46<Zimsky>Woet? disgusting.
07:46<Woet>ban this dude for harassment
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07:57<Celti>cPanel has its uses, but I had to support it for three years and would live happily without ever touching it again.
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08:29<joynal>Hi, I need help on dns setup. I want setup wildcard subdomain under main domain. So I just add asterisk in hostname. Now my subdomain's are working but main domain not working.
08:31<Zimsky>I presume this is in linode's DNS manager
08:33<Woet>what is the domain
08:33<Woet>you didnt edit the main A record right?
08:33<Woet>you added another one with *?
08:33<Woet>because * doesn't match the main domain.
08:33<Woet>you need two A records.
08:33<Woet>one for "" and one for "*"
08:34<joynal>No I just added * at one zone
08:34<Woet>okay, dont do that
08:34<joynal>The main zone
08:34<Woet>[14:33:46] <Woet> you need two A records.
08:34<Woet>[14:33:54] <Woet> one for "" and one for "*"
08:35<Zimsky>unless you're aliasing (CNAME) * to
08:36<joynal>Ohh! I am new to these devops things
08:36<ponas>doesn't help much if there's no " IN A ..."
08:37<joynal>How much time linode take to activate dns?
08:37<ponas>yeah missed the dot
08:37<Zimsky>DAMMIT PONAS
08:37<Zimsky>well joynal, DNS is a tricky biscuit
08:38<Zimsky>their nameservers update every 15 minutes, but things could be different depending on stuff like TTLs or negative cache times
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08:38<ponas>joynal: judging from the TTL set on your domain it'll take ~3 hours
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08:39<Zimsky>how rude
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09:11<firestorm9>Mornin' everyone. Was wondering if Linode supports extra drive space, for example 2TB of storage?
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09:12<grawity>not yet, see /topic
09:12<grawity>well unless you're on Newark
09:14<firestorm9>Thanks for the answer, I'll check out topic.
09:16<Zimsky>what do you need 2TB of storage for
09:16<firestorm9>Mail server
09:16<firestorm9>Lazy users. :)
09:16<Zimsky>melt their faces
09:16<Zimsky>ark of the covenant style
09:17<firestorm9>Hah. I'd be happy if I could just get them to move the crap out of their INBOX and into a different folder. Oh well.
09:18<Zimsky>maybe set individual folder quotas
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09:19<firestorm9>Challenge is Gmail allows 25G or some such, so 300+ users at even 15G is 4.5TB.
09:20<firestorm9>Anyway, it's a requirement I need to fill. Was hoping there was special plans not on the front page.
09:20<Zimsky>in time there will be
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09:20<firestorm9>Sounds good
09:20<cnf>firestorm9: 4.5T is not that much?
09:20<cnf>what's the problem?
09:20<Zimsky>I'll finally be able to store all my cat bathing literature
09:20<cnf>oh, on linode
09:20<cnf>forgot what channel i was on :P
09:20<Zimsky>good job cnf
09:21<cnf>it happens :P
09:21<@jalter>at least he didn't forget about dre
09:21<Zimsky>who is dre
09:21<cnf>i thought i was on ##hardware, my apologies :P
09:21<Zimsky>I hate that channel
09:22<cnf>it's ok, but it does have it's bad times
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09:52<marcaparent>Hi everyone, hope you're well!
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09:56<marcaparent>I'd have a little question about DNS propagation if someone want to help me understand something. We have a domain purchased at GoDaddy that was already pointing to some external NS, and we wanted to change those NS to linode's. We changed the old ones for to and it seems to have started propagating. The problem is, many DNS servers now list our domain as having no NS at all, which means we cur
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09:59<marcaparent>The domain is and it has been added to our WHM instance as an addon domain on another account. The DNS Zone is already imported to what is was before the NS change (MX/TXT,etc) except the A Record of course. Have any of you encountered this problem before? Is there something I should do to fix the issue and the current downtime, or should I just wait for the DNS to propagate? FYI, it's already been 16 hour
10:00<akerl>Did you add to Linode's DNS Manager?
10:01<marcaparent>I don't think so. That's not accessible from within WHM right?
10:01<akerl>You told your registrar to use Linode's nameservers
10:02<akerl>Not your WHM's nameserver(s)
10:02<akerl>So you'd need to log into the Linode Manager, go to the DNS section, and add your domain and its records
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10:05<marcaparent>Thank you very much. I'll look into that!
10:05<marcaparent>Much much appreciated
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10:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Mobile Hotmail Login <>
10:26<nbrewer>hello, feel free to ask your question..
10:26<jjfjr>hi I'm new at IRC it's my first time
10:26<jjfjr>I'm just trying
10:30<cnf>you know what they say
10:30<cnf>if at first you don't succeed
10:31<cnf>try, try, try, try, try
10:31<cnf>try, try, try again! :P
10:31<jjfjr>thanks I try
10:31<jjfjr>do you have good channels to try for my
10:32<jjfjr>like news channels
10:34<Zimsky>channel 4 is alright
10:35<Zimsky>23, 28
10:35<Zimsky>don't trust channel 5 tho
10:35<Zimsky>fun fact; irc channels used to be only numeric
10:36<jjfjr>ok thank you
10:36<Zimsky>dwfreed: a long long long time ago
10:36<Zimsky>if I gave any more of a shit, I'd find the source of the daemon
10:36<nbrewer>yeah and you'd switch between them with one of these
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10:40<Zimsky>while the original RFC specified hash-prefixed channel names; while it was being developed, originally, channels were only numbers
10:41<Zimsky>and there was one daemon that implemented it that way, though obviously lost because it's silly
10:41<Zimsky>wasn't a major daemon
10:42<Zimsky>more of a lieutenant daemon
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10:44*csnxs slaps Zimsky
10:45<Zimsky>what did I tell you about doing that, csnxs?
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11:29<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:32<csnxs>hi Linodin', I'm dad
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12:27<MajObviousman>question for the DB-heavy folks: what's your opinion on CREATE TABLE ... SELECT functionality? It strikes me as an anti-pattern
12:30<synfinatic>i don't use it very often... but when I do, it's really damned useful.
12:30<synfinatic>and by "not very often" I think I've used it 2 or 3 times ever
12:30<Eugene>I have never used it as part of an application, and would not.
12:31<Eugene>I have used it for manual migrations and playground testing, where it is very useful for not-quite-temporary tables
12:34<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Improve the way zones are updated <>
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13:16<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Logging drop records iptables <>
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13:54<trippeh>there we go, finally pulled the plug on analog tv and FM radio over fiber ;)
13:56<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Can I check my files through Linode manager? <>
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14:46<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Logging drop records iptables <>
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15:37<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Logging drop records iptables <>
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15:46<zifnab>i've done it for migration as well
15:46<zifnab>bit late, create blah as (select * from) etc
15:48<zifnab>create table new_table as (select *, False as NewColumn from old_table);
15:49<zifnab>worked fairly ok for a data migration on large-ish quantities of data (millions? of rows)
15:50<Eugene>Random Glish complaint: the default window size is too small for a 1024x768(default Windows resolution) display
15:50<Eugene>......not that it matters to most Linodes
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16:37<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • /dev/root size keeps going up <> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Request: Linode Firewall <> || General Discussion • Wordpress site not sending out emails <>
16:55<Woet>wtf is that IfThenElse guy smoking
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17:37<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [SOLVED] Logging drop records iptables <>
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19:58<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [SOLVED] Logging drop records iptables <>
19:58<sdf__1>is linode best for nodejs website hosting?
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19:59<hays_>why is storage like s3 so much cheaper than storage directly attached to a vps?
19:59<hays_>i can see that it would be cheaper, but its like a fifth the cost on AWS for example
19:59<hays_>that seems like a huge gap
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20:09<zifnab>0.10/gb is expensive
20:09<zifnab>its the same price as ebs volumes
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20:10<Anurag>I saw that you provide free WHM and Cpanel to your cistomers
20:10<zifnab>i'm assuming s3 is cheaper because its mostly idle data
20:10<Anurag>Is it true??
20:10<encode>quick question, is the ubuntu 14.04 LTS image 64 or 32 bit?
20:11<Anurag>Is anyone there to reply me because I am about to buy ousting
20:11<millisa>Anurag: no
20:11<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: Or try a free panel like Webmin: Or just use the command line:
20:11<zifnab>encode: everything is 64bit
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20:11<@jfred>(with the exception of I think one older slackware image)
20:11<zifnab>kernels need to be for kvm to actually function afaik, you can still do a 32bit userland w/ a 64bit kernel but thats insanity and best of luck
20:12<@jfred>so for all practical purposes: yes, they're all 64-bit :P
20:12<encode>jfred, zifnab ok thanks
20:12<Anurag>Millisa I know about installing Cpanel on centos but I I want you to have a look on this please
20:12<encode>zifnab: yeah, i want to move from a linode that has exactly that, 64bit kernel and 32 bit userland
20:12<millisa>Anurag: scroll down to the bottom. managed costs money (it's the only $ sign on the page)
20:16<Anurag>I still did not understand. I already have hosting in aws and I have installed WHM and Cpanel on centos. My WHM and Cpanel is trial version so I need something where I can get WHM and Cpanel free and this website states the same
20:16<Anurag>So I need to know how can I have free WHM and Cpanel as they are stating to provide me
20:16<millisa>cpanel/whm is not free.
20:16<Anurag>Which plan do I need to take
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20:29<bigJ>i would like to know how can i add another 1 month to my hosting subscription?
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20:32<bigJ>hi millisa if i made a payment lets say $5 it will extend my subscription to another month?
20:32<kushed_panda>How do I try the few hour trial version? This company looks promising and I'd like a try
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20:33<millisa>bigJ: linodes are billed hourly. $5 could last you several months if you are provisioning and deprovisioning systems
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20:33<millisa>bigJ: but if you had 1 $5 linode up the entire month, sure, $5 would last a month
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20:34<kushed_panda>Millisa how do I try your few hour trial?
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20:35<millisa>you just sign up with a credit card and put some money into the account. They do a refund if you request it in the first seven days. it's down at the bottom of the pricing page
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20:36<bigJ>hi millisa i would like to ask what if i havent consume the $5 in a month? and i stop the subscription will it be a refund for the remaining credit?
20:38<millisa>bigJ: (I suggest reading the whole page)
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20:47<tmberg>Hm.. Are ntp servers forbidden/blocked on linode?
20:49<millisa>don't know of anything (legal) that is blocked at linode
20:49<millisa>a long time ago there were some irc restrictions...
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20:50<tmberg>Seems like it doesnt wont to "play" at the moment at least.
20:51<tmberg>Oh. Now. Hm...
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20:53<tmberg>Nvm. :)
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22:32<lan>hello guys
22:33*lan slaps cmullen around a bit with a large fishbot
22:33*lan slaps bsteffens around a bit with a large fishbot
22:33<FluffyFoxeh>don't do that
22:34<lan>Hi Foxeh
22:34<lan>sorry I just tried to test
22:34<lan>Is it linode community chat?
22:35*DanielNM slaps a large fishbot around a bit with lan
22:35<lan>I was wondering no one chats to me
22:35<lan>Hi DanielNM
22:35<lan>Foxeh, are you a client or linode staff?
22:35<FluffyFoxeh>just a customer
22:35<lan>I see
22:35<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
22:36<lan>Thx Daniel
22:37<lan>Do you know llinode has free hosting?
22:37<lan>I want it for development
22:37<FluffyFoxeh>there's a free trial, but it isn't free
22:37<FluffyFoxeh>isn't free after that *
22:37<lan>how longer?
22:37<FluffyFoxeh>you can cancel within the first 7 days and receive a full refund
22:38<FluffyFoxeh>it's only $5 per month though, it's great for a little dev box
22:39<lan>I see
22:40<lan>so I can upgrade later?
22:40<FluffyFoxeh>you can upgrade or downgrade plans at any time
22:40<lan>I see
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22:41<lan>and do you know any free vps like few months?
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22:41<FluffyFoxeh>no, I don't know of any
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22:42<lan>and one more
22:42<lan>linode has data center in singapore?
22:42<lan>is it stable?
22:43<FluffyFoxeh>I haven't used it but I'm sure it is stable, yes. You can test your download speed from it at
22:43<millisa>most linode datacenters are stable. you can go browse their status page to look for past incidents
22:43<FluffyFoxeh>that to
22:46<Zimsky>lan: are you local?
22:47<lan>Hi zimsky
22:47<lan>thx Foxeh
22:47<Zimsky>hi lan
22:47<lan>I'm from Cambodia
22:47<Zimsky>me too
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22:48<Zimsky>not really
22:48<lan>are u IT guy?
22:48<lan>so where are u from?
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22:48<Zimsky>I am an idea
22:48<Zimsky>a concept
22:48<lan>I see
22:48<lan>do u know free vps for few months?
22:48<lan>i need it for development :)
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22:49<FluffyFoxeh>I'd be very surprised if that was offered by anyone
22:49<millisa>virtualbox is free. just download it and run it on your local system?
22:49<FluffyFoxeh>and if it was then I'd be skeptical of their motives
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22:52<CodeMouse92__>VirtualBox is not a VPS....
22:52<millisa>no, but it's plenty good for development
22:53<CodeMouse92__>Sure, but that's irrelevant. it doesn't fulfill any of the purposes of a VPS.
22:53<CodeMouse92__>I mean, Atom is free and plenty good for development, but it's an IDE, and therefore beside the point.
22:54<lan>i know amazon aws
22:54<lan>it's free for 1 year for the minimal package
22:54<lan>for testing
22:54<CodeMouse92__>lan: Linode isn't free, but it's inexpensive and there aren't any weird strings attached.
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22:55<CodeMouse92__>PLus, I think there's a $10 credit floating around the net someplace, prob on the actual Linode docs.
22:55<CodeMouse92__>Oh, wait, WE'RE IN THAT ROOM
22:55*CodeMouse92__ forgot where he was, ha ha
23:01<lan>thank you everyone
23:01<Zimsky>CodeMouse92__: can I be your friend
23:01<CodeMouse92__>Zimsky: Uhm, sure, why not?
23:02<Zimsky>is that a rhetorical question?
23:02<lan>give us your facebook
23:02<CodeMouse92__>Haha, I have no FB
23:02<Zimsky>ask zuckerberg
23:02<CodeMouse92__>This IS my social media. That and twitter.
23:02<CodeMouse92__>I shut down my FB three years ago.
23:03<CodeMouse92__>(I usually live on Freenode IRC)
23:14*FluffyFoxeh high fives CodeMouse92__
23:14<FluffyFoxeh>love your quit message also
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23:23<CodeMouse92__>FluffyFoxeh: Oh, thanks ;3
23:23<CodeMouse92__>For reference: if anyone DID want to find me
23:23<FluffyFoxeh>i like finding people
23:26<Zimsky>join the NSA
23:27<arlen>maybe he already did
23:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Security: web-based access to a linode <>
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23:37<AddyaRizki>sek usum tah iki
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23:41<Zimsky>^ proof of string theory
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