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---Logopened Fri Jun 23 00:00:45 2017
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00:41<Boss>leenodah eh
00:41<millisa>mool tee pass.
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01:59<Thomas>Any one here ?
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01:59<Thomas>can you please let me know how can I access my cpanel
02:00<Thomas>My Site IP is:\
02:00<Thomas>My Site IP is:
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02:44<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Interest on WHMcs integration <>
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02:59<dcraig>my IP has a first name, it's forty-five thirty-three
02:59<dcraig>my IP has a second name, it's fifty-nine two hundred twenty-six
03:00*rsdehart hax into dcraig's cpanel
03:01<dcraig>I see panel, you see panel, we all see panel
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03:02<rsdehart>wouldn't you like to be a panel too
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03:02<dcraig>SimonHampel sells cpanels by
03:03<dcraig>only 90s kids get that linode joke
03:03<SimonHampel>I must be too old
03:04<SimonHampel>Bit difficult to do Australian Sign Language in chat
03:05<dcraig>especially since you have to be upside down amirite
03:05<SimonHampel>headspins FTW
03:05<dcraig>r u an aussie m8?
03:06<SimonHampel>you're saying it wrong ... it's maaaaaaaaaate
03:06<dcraig>u wot
03:07<SimonHampel>long a ... like as long as the Eyre Highway across the Nullabor
03:08<dcraig>I don't get your null reference
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03:08<dcraig>that's right, quit
03:08<SimonHampel>oooh - C joke
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03:09<SimonHampel>no - that was just one of my other personalities
03:09<SimonHampel>crowded in here
03:09<dcraig>only 3 people talk
03:15<dcraig>linbot doesn't count
03:15<dcraig><linbot> Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.
03:15<dcraig>would a human do that?
03:19<rsdehart>I most often just chime in to bother dcraig or arlen
03:20<dcraig>that's funny, because I only speak to annoy rsdehart
03:20<dcraig>or Ikaros
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05:19<kobin>my account can't use forgot password
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05:23<arlen>kobin: email
05:23<arlen>they'll help you out
05:24<arlen>did you try using ?
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05:43<Shahzoor>grawity: You there?
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06:23<mibby>Hi I updated DNS an hour+ ago to add a couple of CNAMEs. They show up in the zone file, but still haven't arrived at your DNS servers. Any known issues?
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06:31<grawity>mibby: by the zone file, do you mean Linode DNS manager?
06:31<mibby>yes. It shows up there fine
06:31<mibby>there is a blockage between the zone file in the Linode UI, and the linode DNS servers
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06:41<mibby>disappointed. lacklustre.
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06:53<Poky>I want to send emails through my server using SMTP protocol with DKIM and SPF authentication. What should I have on server?
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08:11<mibby>is anyone from linode alive?
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08:12<ponas>mibby: I suggest emailing
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08:20<@jalter>mibby: We are still alive
08:21<@jalter>We're doing cloud hosting and we're still alive
08:21<mibby>np issue seems to be sort of sorted now. Odd though
08:22<@jalter>Glad to hear it's sorted. Changes in DNS Manager sync every quarter-hour, so an hour wait would be a little unusual
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08:26<Woet>jalter: what is "cloud" about your hosting?
08:27<@jalter>Our high performance servers make your applications feel light and fluffy
08:28<Woet>are your servers full of water?
08:28<@jalter>water cooling is so early-2000s
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09:46<JamesTK>jalter: eh, i cut out the middle man, hidden master <3
09:46<Zimsky>what if it was a middle woman?
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10:34<pedregalux>Hi, is here anyone who get problems with connect to Linode dashboard?
10:34<Eliz>pedregalux: fine here, and from my servers
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11:08<Deb>I am new to linode
11:08<Deb>I have some doubts
11:08<Deb>with the hosting service
11:08<@caker>hello - what's up?
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11:09<Deb>Can we install all linux based softwares to our hosting
11:09<Deb>can we install nodejs server
11:09<Deb>so we can install all the softwares which can be installed in a linux system right
11:10<Deb>ok thank you
11:10<Deb>and one more doubt
11:10<Deb>is there a monthly subscription
11:11<Deb>or do we have to pay yearly
11:11<@caker>It is monthly. You can cancel any time
11:11<Deb>ok so if we are buying a linode 1 gb
11:11<Deb>we have to pay 5 dollars
11:11<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
11:12<ponas>if in doubt, stop doubting
11:12<Deb>and we can use the hosting
11:12<Deb>thank you
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11:12<Deb>very much
11:12<@caker>my pleasure
11:12<Deb>ok I am looking forward with the service of linode
11:13<Deb>thank you
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11:47<Shahzoor>grawity: Hey
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11:53<Ambitions>Why do I need to pay when I am completing my registration
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11:54<Shahzoor>grawity: Glad you are here!
11:56<Shahzoor>grawity: Need some guidance. I want to send emails through my server with DKIM and SPF. What all do I need to have? Working on Ubuntu
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12:03<relidy>Shahzoor: As an example:
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12:04<Shahzoor>relidy: followed that guide multiple times.
12:04<Shahzoor>Cant figure out where I am going wrong
12:05<relidy>Then you need to ask a more specific question :)
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12:11<Shahzoor>I dont know how it works. I have installed postfix, dkim, spf. After that is successful, I want smtp settings that I can send email through. To achieve that, what should I have? Dovecot is important?
12:11<grawity>only as an auth provider for SMTP, nothing else
12:11<relidy>That article lays out what the various pieces are and why you'd want (or not) them.
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12:12<Shahzoor>hmm... I dont want mailbox or squirrel
12:12<grawity>one thing I tried to suggest the last time (but was ignored) was to put "MTA ORIGINATING" in your OpenDKIM config
12:12<Shahzoor>grawity: I have no clue about MTA originating config. That's why I couldnt answer you
12:13<Shahzoor>I can just do what guides show me to lol
12:13<grawity>well then I can't help you either
12:15<Shahzoor>relidy: thanks !
12:17<Shahzoor>Mail Delivery Agents: Cyrus’s MDA, Deliver, Dovecot’s LDA, maildrop, Postfix’s MDA, Procmail, Sendmail’s MDA.
12:18<grawity>it's honestly as simple as that, put the line "MTA ORIGINATING" in the config
12:18<Shahzoor>What should I go for, which one is easy?
12:18<grawity>and see if it helps any
12:18<Shahzoor>which config file...
12:20<Shahzoor>Throw links at me
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12:30<Shahzoor>I have this line in my - -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
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12:30<grawity>that's Postfix's config
12:31<grawity>"when accepting mail through this port, tag it with the word 'ORIGINATING' when sending to OpenDKIM"
12:31<grawity>and OpenDKIM's config needs a corresponding line to actually look for that tag
12:31<grawity>that line being "MTA ORIGINATING"
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12:34<Shahzoor>Added this at the end of the opendkim.conf - MTA ORIGINATING
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12:55<Zimsky>that site seems biased
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13:21<Eugene>FWIW, I have never seen a well-reasoned logical argument for or against net neutrality by a not-obviously-biased ranting party. And networking stuff is sort of my job
13:22<Eugene>I guess I don't understand the hoopla well enough to form an opinion either way. Yes, different classes of bandwidth are QoSed differently.... this is news, somehow?
13:23<grawity>there's QoS to prioritize things when the pipes are full, and there's throttling to slow down things out of spite even though you still have the capacity
13:23<Zimsky>Eugene: I was joking
13:24<millisa>I guess an argument for neutrality - the telco gets too much power. consider your work data line; your provider decided suddenly your bandwidth isn't as important as the new big company X that moved. They deprioritize your bandwidth and suddenly your shell sessions are so slow, you type a letter and wait 2 seconds for it to show up in the shell
13:24<Eugene>That's all well and good as a statement, but what are the facts? I have not seen any proposed legislation, impact studies, nothing. Just BS and vitriol
13:25<Eugene>I know that - and as a purchaser of commercial bandwidth I have not had a problem with that.....
13:25<grawity>hasn't legislation already been proposed, accepted, and later revoked?
13:25<millisa>you have nothing to do other than shell out more money to them or to switch providers. Which every other provider may be doing the same thing, because big company X has connectivity from all of them
13:25<Eugene>No idea - nobody has ever been able to link me anything. Just whining ;-)
13:25<Eugene>"Show me the proof"
13:25<Zimsky>linked you something
13:25<Zimsky>I win
13:25<Eugene>!lick Zimsky
13:25<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zimsky. (7)
13:26<Zimsky>millisa: depends if it's about latency or bandwidth, or both
13:26<retro|blah>🍁 <-- amidoingitrite?
13:26<millisa>the problem is the telco can then screw you over on any of them really
13:26<Eugene>My professional experience is that last-mile bandwidth providing is not generally congested. Yes, there are exchanges and such that get clogged, but that is not THAT BAD of a problem, and usually resolves itself of leads to a capacity upgrade.
13:27<Eugene>There was a blog post, once upon a time, about Netflix accusing Comcast(or somebody?) of not wanting to do this type of capacity upgrade.... but it was left open-ended on whether it was maliciious or incompetence(I believe both with Comcast).
13:27<millisa>it's one of the most greed driven and dishonest industries out there... it could be both.
13:28<dwfreed>it was Netflix and Comcast, yes
13:28<Eugene>But one blog post does not a conspiracy make
13:29<dwfreed>but without common carrier classification, it is possible for your ISP to charge you extra for using Netflix
13:30<Eugene>Annnnd what does that have to do with net neutrality, exactly? Are there rule changes pending that would change status of ISPs? What rules? Where? Is there anything more to this than hearsay?
13:31<Eugene>I don't understand the issue; please explain it, or don't - just saying "rah rah rah net neutrality" is a bit boring
13:31<dwfreed>Ajit Pai is planning on reversing the common carrier classification; he's stated as much many times
13:31<dwfreed>common carrier is one way of implementing neutrality
13:32<Eugene>OK, and that would do.... what?
13:32<grawity>it'd apply an existing ruleset to ISPs
13:32<dwfreed>in this case, the "goods" are your packets
13:34<Eugene>I have read that article in the past. It does a poor job of explaining how pipelines and data are the same thing. I further don't understand why this is a bad thing. I pay extra to have my shipped items treated well, why would I not do the same for my data?
13:35<Zimsky>is this issue with net neutrality in the united states something that may potentially affect those not within the united states?
13:35<Eugene>If I want cut-rate bandwidth I'll buy a 10Gigabit line from HE for a few grand a month, and when their BGP flaps(as it does every few months) I will lose packets. Whoop-de-doo, I get what i pay for
13:36<dwfreed>you pay extra for faster transmit/receive speeds; without common carrier, you could possibly pay extra for going to Netflix, even though it doesn't cost your ISP more to send your packets to Netflix
13:36<dwfreed>(indeed, with ISPs like Comcast, it doesn't cost your ISP anything to send your packets to Netflix, more the other way around)
13:36<relidy>Eugene: One of the issues in play is also carriers that are also content creators. Comacast deprioritizing Netflix just because they're a competitor.
13:37<dwfreed>it would be like the postal service charging more to send a letter to your friend because he's black
13:37<Eugene>Unless I am being billd per-byte I don't see how that could be the case. Do you mean that comcast could offer a "premium netflix add-on" that would prioritize my Netflix traffic? That seems like it would be pathologically difficult to apply on a per-customer basis
13:37<dwfreed>Eugene: no, I'm saying that comcast could make it such that you'd have to pay them a fee to access netflix at all
13:37<Eugene>It sounds more like the postal service charging more for overnight delivery of a 10lb box to an island in the south pacific... because its hard to get there
13:38<dwfreed>sure, but it's not hard to get to netflix
13:38<Zimsky>dwfreed: the postal service already does that to me
13:38<dwfreed>it's no harder to get to netflix than google
13:38<Eugene>Interesting. Would that case(no netflix at all) not be covered by some other regulation, surely?
13:38<Eugene>(I am not a lawyer)
13:38<Zimsky>dwfreed: costs more to send a letter to namibia than it does sweden
13:39<dwfreed>Eugene: one could make an argument for anti-competitive, but that's a hard sell
13:39<Eugene>I'm sure Netflix's lawyers will do a bang-up job of it
13:39<dwfreed>but what about all the little companies that don't have netflix's wallet?
13:39<dwfreed>they're fucked
13:40<dwfreed>common carrier is a straightforward way to prevent anti-competitive practices like this
13:40<Eugene>How so? Comcast would face a customer revolt if they started blocking /16s
13:40<Eugene>Commercial bandwidth is enough of a commoditzed good at this point that i don't see how anything could reverse it
13:41<dwfreed>not really, because AT&T would do it too, and that's the two largest residential ISPs
13:41<Zimsky>all the more reason to use an inmarsat connection
13:41<Eugene>I am guessing that any such blocking/filtering/QoS/whatever would be per-ASN.... and any "small" company won't have that, they will buy from a large ISP, eg HE or Level3
13:41<Eugene>Because that's how it works now
13:41<dwfreed>Zimsky: enjoy your multi-second latencies
13:41<Zimsky>dwfreed: actually, except not, because after proper brexit it won't be regulated by euro regs
13:41<Zimsky>I like my multi-second latencies
13:42<Zimsky>delays me having to see peng's words even more
13:42<dwfreed>Eugene: nah, they can still do filtering on a per IP basis; it would just need to be at their customer edge, where traffic is low
13:42<Eugene>And what's the gain in doing this? Extracting money from consumers? Making their consumers hate them even more? I say bring it on, let the shit storm flow
13:42<dwfreed>extracting money
13:42<Eugene>Regulating evil out of companies never works; let them be more evil and collapse under their own hatred
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13:43<dwfreed>except they won't
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13:43<Eugene>That's a question for future historians
13:43<dwfreed>and consumers will suffer as a result
13:43<Eugene>Good, maybe people will stop using the internet every waking moment
13:43<millisa>it's just a fad. it'll pass.
13:44<dwfreed>like it or not, the internet is how we interact these days
13:44<Zimsky>Eugene: I would have thought you would be more up in this kind of topic than most
13:45<Eugene>I guess I still don't see how this equates to the end of the free world as we know it, which is how I have seen it portrayed
13:45<Eugene>I try to be; that's why it doesn't make any sense heh.
13:45<Zimsky>issues surrounding net neutrality are often exaggerated
13:45<Zimsky>it's really not as big of an issue as it's made out to be
13:46<Eugene>Indeed, that is basically my point from the beginning. Where's the crisis?
13:46<Zimsky>and it's primarily only of concern to those in the united states
13:46<Eugene>"Meh" says I.
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13:46<dwfreed>enjoy your bill doubling for the services you already use
13:46<Eugene>I already pay commercial rates with a long-term contract. I doubt they're going anywhere
13:47<dwfreed>they'll find a way
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13:48<Zimsky>they always find a way
13:48<Zimsky>like energy rates in some countries and their biannual "changes in rates"
13:48<Eugene>I have been using the internet for more than 20 years. In that time my home connection has gone from a 9600baud dialup modem to a direct gigabit uplink
13:49<Zimsky>they say "change" implying it could be going up or down, yet oddly it never goes down
13:49<Eugene>Maybe my perspective is just fucked
13:49<Eugene>I also live in Washington state, which has some of the lowest per-kWh energy prices because of our sweet hydro dams ;-)
13:49<Zimsky>never goes down.
13:49<millisa>maybe a little skewed. there's plenty of places where you can barely get megabit download links and that only from one provider
13:50<dwfreed>I had 56k dialup *in 2011*
13:50<millisa>or there's a choice of two equally horrible carriers.
13:50<Eugene>Even in the middle-of-nowhere Arkansas I had a choice between two DSL providers, a LTE uplink, and cable
13:50<millisa>you can be screwed by a company that puts down cable that used to be for tv, or screwed by a company that used to put down wire for telephones.
13:50<Eugene>The rates for each were about the same
13:50<dwfreed>Eugene: I have none of those options
13:51<dwfreed>way too far for cable, too far for DSL, no LTE signal due to trees
13:51<Eugene>Buy a ditch-witch and a spool of fiber
13:51<dwfreed>it'd need to be about 20 miles long
13:51<Eugene>Thats not that bad of a run
13:51<Zimsky>get a 20-mile-long spool of fiber.
13:52<Eugene>Bury costs are what, couple bucks a foot around there? What's your labor market like
13:52<dwfreed>labor? people work?
13:52<Zimsky>get one of them
13:52<dwfreed>(we're fucking lazy as shit)
14:04<FluffyFoxeh>It would affect people outside the united states, because companies inside and outside of the US may be hurt by being de-prioritized by US ISPs, which cover a large consumer market
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14:05<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: makes sense
14:05<Zimsky>more of a reason to support european companies
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15:03<Shahzoor>I have a these files "cert.pem chain.pem fullchain.pem privkey.pem" How can I find out for which domain these are allowed?
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15:03<Shahzoor>openssl verify?
15:04<Zimsky>those look like letsencrypt certs, are they not in the /etc/letsencrypt directory?
15:04<Shahzoor>Yes they are. They are into the directory too
15:04<grawity>openssl x509 -noout -text < cert.pem
15:04<grawity>certtool -i < cert.pem
15:04<Shahzoor>But lately I have Expanded to other domains/subdomains.
15:04<Shahzoor>OK. Thanks grawity
15:05<Zimsky>dammit grawity
15:05<Zimsky>I was looking it up
15:05<grawity>generally, if it's in /etc/letsencrypt/live/<domain>, then it can be used for that domain
15:05<Shahzoor>grawity has everything on his mind
15:05<grawity>and if it's usable for multiple domains, then it'll be in multiple live/ subdirs as well
15:05<Zimsky>not necessarily
15:06<Shahzoor>No, in my case, the subdomains got expanded to these certs. dont have folders
15:06<grawity>well I guess it's useful to know the domain list if you want to use a single cert / single vhost config
15:06<grawity>but I doubt your statement about not having folders under /etc/letsencrypt/live
15:06<Shahzoor>The certificates were created before, added more yesterday. So, no folders were created
15:06<Zimsky>in my experience, if you specify a list of domains, e.g.,, you might find the primary name will be, and the SANs beta and gamma
15:07<Zimsky>grawity, Shahzoor ^
15:07<grawity>the primary name will also be among SANs
15:07<Shahzoor>Yeah I did that. In one command listed,,,
15:08<grawity>ah well, I see certbot behaves differently with the live/ directory
15:10<Zimsky>burn it
15:10<Shahzoor>So, I while configuring dovecot, guide asked me to add smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/dovecot/dovecot.pem under postfix/ file. Can I use my existing certificate and give that path?
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15:15<Zimsky>just specify any full path and you should be fine
15:15<Zimsky>can't remember about what permissions it might need to be, but I think you'll be fine.
15:16<grawity>make sure you use fullchain.pem and not cert.pem there
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15:19<Shahzoor>grawity: My current - smtpd_tls_cert_file=/....../cert.pem
15:20<Shahzoor>grawity: you say this is wrong. I should link fullchain? right?
15:20<Shahzoor>grawity: WOW! you are awesome! Let me test
15:20<Shahzoor>grawity: under smtpd_tls_key_file=/..../privkey.pem right?
15:22<Shahzoor>grawity: It worked! IMAP was giving some SSL errors! now its fine!
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15:27<Shahzoor>Configured the server successfully! thanks to grawity and Zimsky ... So, I am trying to login to webmail. It says authentication failed. How can I check which MySQL is it looking into? MySQL error log or what?
15:28<grawity>generally webmail apps would be trying to log into your IMAP server
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15:28<Shahzoor>Yes. IMAP server should have users in db right?
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15:28<grawity>if you configured it that way, yes
15:29<grawity>mysql for mailbox storage is not something I have worked with
15:29<grawity>the point, though, is that you should be looking for/at/through the IMAP server's (dovecot's) log files
15:29<Shahzoor>Yeah i think there was some mispell for username in those files
15:29<Shahzoor>dovecot logs ok
15:39<Zimsky>sometimes you can rely on all the bot attempts to access your mail server for testing if it works in the first place
15:39<Zimsky>I did that once
15:40<Zimsky>had no means of testing it (complicated scenario), so I just waited a few minutes and something tried to access it
15:40<Eugene>I learned a great honeypot technique from zifnab recently. Put a large binary in your sshd_banner file, preferably a rootkit
15:40<Eugene>Obviously it only works if you have lots of outbound bandwidth to spare, but it certainly slows down the random auth attempts
15:40<Shahzoor>I dont know it is giving me authentication fail ugh!
15:41<@mcintosh>Eugene: that's hilarious
15:41<Zimsky>Eugene: zifnab... taught you something?
15:41*mcintosh does that for his cowrie instance
15:41<Zimsky>mcintosh, no that part is hilarious
15:41<Zimsky>cor blimey
15:41<Eugene>I know, it surprised me. I just use an ASCII version of hello.jpg myself, it gets the point across
15:42<Zimsky>Eugene: ever heard of bigmatix.ansi?
15:42<Eugene>The telnet matrix thing?
15:42<Peng>It's not fun, but if you disable the obsolete FF DH key exchange options, a lot of bots won't be able to connect.
15:42<Zimsky>I'll be annoying and link the raw version,
15:42<Zimsky>it's ~2MB in size
15:43<Zimsky>sometimes handy
15:43*Eugene bookmarks repo
15:43<Zimsky>like, sure you can just pipe urandom, but other times it's nice to give them a giant MATIX HAS U snake
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15:50<Shahzoor>grawity: Error: Couldn't drop privileges: User is missing UID (see mail_uid setting) What does this mean?
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15:55<Shahzoor>grawity: nevermind. Solved. I dont know why userdb lines were commented in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/auth-sql.conf.ext
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16:23<Eugene>Ground control to major Linode
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16:26<Zimsky>one syllable too many, doesn't quite work
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16:46<FrankAnthony>Hi, I was looking at Linode vs InMotion . I guess I'm at the which has better support stage =)
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16:47<Zimsky>linode is better than all other hosts
16:47<FrankAnthony>Thats a +1 for sure =)
16:47<Zimsky>for all reasons, past, present, future, across all dimensions in every universe, superverse and multiverse
16:48<FrankAnthony>I'm going to need a new abacus =/
16:48<Zimsky>within every vibration of every string
16:48<Zimsky>okay that made me laugh
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16:49<FrankAnthony>Is this chat every that works at linode, or a place for devs to hangout and talk all things dev too
16:49<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information:
16:50<FrankAnthony>a helpful bot +1
16:50<linbot>I am not a bot
16:50*relidy snickers
16:51<linbot>I'm a real boy!
16:51<FrankAnthony>I knew I should have waited until Monday :s
16:51<millisa>what . . what happens on . . monday?
16:52<FrankAnthony>My brain is freshly baked, not fried.
16:52<millisa>!point FrankAnthony
16:52<linbot>millisa: Point given to frankanthony. (1)
16:52<dwfreed>still too hot to eat, though
16:52<Zimsky>all this time I thought linbot was a girl
16:53<linbot>there are no girls on the internet
16:53<FrankAnthony>TGIF linode fans, I shall return in the future with stories from the past.
16:53<Zimsky>I like the well-placed comma in "ever-so-helpful"
16:53<Zimsky>s/comma/question mark/
16:53<Zimsky>the fuck am I on
16:54<FrankAnthony>if my commas impress you wait until you see how I use a semi-colon
16:54<Zimsky>they don't
16:54<FrankAnthony>I am not deterred
16:55<Zimsky>nor was hitler
16:55<FrankAnthony>I can do anything for 5 mins.
16:55<Zimsky>can you do the worm for 5 minutes?
16:56<FrankAnthony>of all things to pick! that was the only move I had in 1985
16:56<Zimsky>maybe beat dwfreed's record of 3 minutes 48 seconds
16:57<FrankAnthony>When you're the last one sitting at your desk typing the rest of the office will think you work hard.
16:57<FrankAnthony>My job is done. Have a great weekend!
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17:00<Zimsky>tomorrow, FrankAnthony receives a memo advising him that in future, he should not be wasting company time chatting on the internet
17:14<dwfreed>tomorrow is saturday
17:15<Zimsky>why would that stop memos being sent?
17:15<Zimsky>some places have people working weekends
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17:47<Ikaros>!wx kdfw
17:47<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 98.6F/37C, visibility 10 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 105.96F (altimeter: 29.79) [KDFW 232053Z 05007KT 10SM FEW055 FEW300 37/23 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP076 CB TCU DSNT]
17:48<Zimsky>!wx KPHX
17:48<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at KPHX: 107.6F/42C, visibility 10 miles, wind 3.45 mph, chill 115.11F (altimeter: 29.75) [KPHX 232051Z COR 21003G16KT 10SM FEW120 42/10 A2975 RMK AO2 SLP050 T04220100]
17:49<zifnab>Eugene: yup, configure ssh banner to only display on password auth, set it to a 100mb blob, I recommend the full text of a public domain book in multiple languages
17:49<arlen>!wx kpoe
17:49<linbot>arlen: [metar] OBS at KPOE: 87.8F/31C, visibility 10 miles, wind 10.36 mph, chill 92.90F (altimeter: 29.86) [KPOE 232058Z AUTO 17009KT 10SM FEW024 SCT090 31/25 A2986 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT E]
17:49<zifnab>They have to wait for the file to finish before they can send the passphrase
17:50<zifnab>It's fun.
17:50<Ikaros>And just now, 99 F w/heat index of 112 F
17:50<Zimsky>I've seen it with my eyes
17:50<Zimsky>zifnab taught something
17:50<zifnab>!wx ksea
17:50<linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KSEA: 78.8F/26C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 81.66F (altimeter: 30.18) [KSEA 232053Z 33010KT 10SM CLR 26/11 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP226 T02610106 56010]
17:50<Eugene>I want lovin, I want your revenge. You and me could run a bad Linoooooode
17:50<zifnab>Should not have had thai for lunch
17:50<zifnab>Nothing but regrets
17:50<zifnab>Butt regrets
17:51<Eugene>Then don't advertise
17:51<zifnab>Says the guy who sends me Hangouts messages of "I'm pooping"
17:51<Eugene>You don't ask for pics
17:51<arlen>ask for pics next time
17:52<Zimsky>ask for samples
17:52<zifnab>That's because you'll actually send them.
17:52<Eugene>And you don't :-(
17:53<Zimsky>I remember when I was in school, and some guy went around showing people a picture of his green excrement
17:53<Zimsky>it was weird
17:53<Eugene>Did you look?
17:53<Zimsky>and it wasn't med school
17:53<Zimsky>not after he said "hey check out my green shit I took"
17:54<Eugene>Well it sounds like everything worked out then
17:55<zifnab>i occasionally comment on things like htat
17:55<zifnab>i clogged my toilet the other day
17:55<zifnab>Eugene can attest, they're uncloggable
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17:57<Zimsky>Eugene: now people come up to me and say "hey wanna see the remains of this gastrointestinal system during this guy's autopsy?"
17:57<Zimsky>I tell them they're full of shit.
17:58<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Best strategy to rebuild node without downtime ? <>
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18:36<ulti>i have a question regarding
18:36<ulti>ddos protection on linode instance , is it auto or comes with a charge
18:36<FluffyFoxeh>Linode doesn't offer it
18:37<FluffyFoxeh>If you get DDoS'd they'll nullroute your IP
18:37<millisa>but there's nothing stopping you from using cloudflare or something similar that in turn uses your linode backend
18:38<ulti>the nullroute will happen for how long
18:38<ulti>and it happens auto?
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18:39<FluffyFoxeh>I don't know, sorry
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18:56<zifnab>so Eugene just taught me a thing
18:56<zifnab>add a user on a box with 4294967294 as its uid
18:56<zifnab> /var/log/lastlog will magically be 1.2T
18:57<zifnab>if you ls -lh it
18:57<zifnab>(its a sparse file)
19:00<FluffyFoxeh>that's amazing
19:03<zifnab>fucks up backups
19:07<Zimsky>I'm bleeding inside my aorta
19:13<synfinatic>that's awesome
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19:53<Ambitions>I spent hours for configuring my vps, and now the website is not working
19:53<millisa>how is it not working?
19:53<Ambitions>I created index.html and placed it inside public_html folder
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19:53<Ambitions>when I go to the URL, nothing happens
19:54<millisa>what is the url?
19:54<Ambitions>It is my first time to configure a server, I am used to having a cPanel website with everything installed (shared hosting)
19:55<millisa>I don't see port 80/443 open to that address.
19:56<millisa>did you open it in your firewall?
19:56<Ambitions>what is the command to open these ports, however, the guide that I followed did not mention these ports
19:56<Ambitions>I don't think that so
19:56<Ambitions>I just set up the firewall
19:57<Ambitions>I followed the Getting Started and Secure Your Website guides
19:57<millisa>what distribution are you running?
19:57<Ambitions>Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
19:58<millisa>ok, so this would be your reference:
19:58<millisa>specifically, look at this section where they talk about allowing port 80:
20:00<millisa>(tcp port 80 is http traffic. tcp port 443 is https traffic)
20:01<Ambitions>Thank you, now it works
20:01<millisa>(I get the ubuntu default page now when requesting your domain)
20:02<Ambitions>The next step for me is to run index.html
20:09<Ambitions>Now it will show Hello World
20:10<Ambitions>When I did the configuration, I changed the www folder to be another name for security reasons
20:11<Ambitions>but now I had to modifiy /var/www/html/index.html to change the homepage of my website, why?
20:12<millisa>how did you change the www folder?
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20:15<Ambitions>When I created the hostname, I typed something else other than www
20:15<Ambitions>hostnamectl set-hostname hostname
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20:16<millisa>that just sets that system's name, it doesn't have much of anything to do with the web service configuration
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20:17<millisa>you apache configs are in /etc/apache2 - there's a sites-available directory where you usually will create a config file that has a vhost defining the names for the web service
20:18<millisa>enabled sites are in sites-enabled in that same directory structure. you've either got a vhost setup that has the documentroot set to /var/www/html or you have no vhosts and the main apache config has that as its document root
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20:25<Ambitions>is it safe to keep it as www?
20:27<millisa>i dont know that it's any more dangerous than any other directory on the system
20:37<Ambitions>do you have any idea about django deployment? I am really appreciate your help
20:38<millisa>not without looking things up
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20:38<Digital_AdHD>Hello, I am trying to get the ip addresses of my running linodes, so i run "linode show lin* | grep ips:"
20:39<Digital_AdHD>It outputs ips:
20:39<Digital_AdHD>Anyway to list them out leaving out the ips: ?
20:41<dwfreed>cut -d ' ' -f 2
20:42<Digital_AdHD>Forgive my ignorance, how or whee do i add that
20:42<Peng>linode show lin* | grep ips: | cut -d ' ' -f 2
20:43<Digital_AdHD>Thank you!
20:44<Peng>Anyone want to bikeshed and use awk or perl? ;)
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21:32<Eliz>Peng: why? cut is more than sufficient :p
21:38<waltman>where do you run the linode command?
21:39<FluffyFoxeh>yeah I didn't know there was a "linode" command
21:39<FluffyFoxeh>is that what Eugene runs every day?
21:39<nbrewer>it's the Linode cli
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23:26<hamphery>can i buy one freebsd vps?
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