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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-07-01

---Logopened Sat Jul 01 00:00:52 2017
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00:25<dwfreed>HAPPY LINODE BILLING DAY
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00:25<FluffyFoxeh>it's that time again~!
00:27<purple_parrot>can't reach alterslash.org from my linode instance, pings work but a wget http://www.alterslash.org just waits forever
00:28<purple_parrot>only that one URL though, and it works from anywhere else. any idea what the problem could be?
00:29<arlen>is that your site?
00:30<purple_parrot>no, just a site i check regularly
00:30<arlen>maybe they hate you
00:30<Peng>That doesn't exist according to the DNS.
00:31<Peng>Did i misspell it?
00:31<Peng>oh, dammit
00:31<Peng>I spelled it right but wrote the wrong command. :P
00:31<Peng>purple_parrot: Can your Linode access other Cloudflare sites? Other IPv6 sites?
00:32<Peng>Other IPv6 Cloudflare sites?
00:32<Peng>purple_parrot: Does wget -4 http://www.alterslash.org/ work? How long is forever?
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00:32<purple_parrot>it can resolve other cloudflare sites, not sure yet about other ipv6 sites.
00:33<Peng>By resolve do you mean download a page over HTTP(S)?
00:33<Peng>Most Cloudflare sites have IPv6.
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00:34<purple_parrot>wget hangs on HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
00:34<Peng>Interesting. For how long?
00:35<Peng>Even if the origin server is messed up, Cloudflare should return an error page eventually. It's possible Cloudflare is broken, but unlikely...
00:35<purple_parrot>last couple of days. just tried https and it works fine, didn't think to try that before.
00:35<purple_parrot>maybe a lets_encrypt thing they've done in the last couple of days?
00:36<purple_parrot>well it works over https, so that's good enough for me. thanks!
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00:37<Peng>Why blame Let's Encrypt!?!?
00:38<Ikaros>Anything to deflect blame away from their own silly mistake(s)
00:38<FluffyFoxeh>he didn't?
00:52<arlen>looks like he did
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00:54<FluffyFoxeh>!urmom
00:54<linbot>Yo mommas so full of fail, she managed to DDoS 127.0.0.1! (32:0/0) [urmmo]
00:54<arlen>dammit mom!
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00:59<Zimsky>wouldn't that be considered a win to /distributively/ attack localhost
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01:26<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Does any one have any clever tricks for automating this somehow? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14954&p=73932#p73932>
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01:50<Peng>I celebrated billing day by removing a Linode yesterday. :<
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02:08<arlen>RIP
02:08<kennethpinette>hello
02:08<arlen>hi
02:08<kennethpinette>How are You ?
02:08<arlen>great, you?
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02:09<kennethpinette>fine
02:09<arlen>excellent
02:09<kennethpinette>i am getting this msg Your account is currently being reviewed. You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight! I Have been Waiting for 2 Hours ..
02:09<arlen>check your spam folder
02:10<kennethpinette>empty
02:10<arlen>otherwise just gotta keep waiting. they'll verify the account or ask for more information soon
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02:23<shahinul>hello
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02:25<shahinul>hello
02:25<Ikaros>Now was there any need to say that twice
02:26<shahinul>hello
02:32<Zimsky>it's me
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02:54<think8848>hello
02:54<think8848>Is anyone here
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02:55<think8848>my vps can not shutdown。。。
02:57<dcraig>why would you ever want to shut down a linode
02:57<Ikaros>It's called restarting and you should be doing that on a regular basis.
02:57<dcraig>more "fake news" from Ikaros...
02:58*Ikaros writes "fake news" on dcraig's face
02:58<Ikaros>Anyway
02:59<think8848>System Shutdown Entered: 8 minutes 6 seconds ago - Waiting...
02:59<dcraig>there is no good reason to ever restart a linode
02:59<Ikaros>Hm. Waiting on the host.
02:59<dcraig>you can get kernel updates when it goes down for hardware failure
02:59<Ikaros>Waiting for 8 minutes on the host for a shutdown job though...that's a bit odd.
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03:02<arlen>!ticket
03:02<linbot>Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here.
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03:02<dcraig>maybe it's installing windows updates
03:02*arlen installs dcraig updates
03:03<Ikaros>think8848: It shouldn't be in "Waiting" state for that long I would imagine, so unless it actually starts to do something in a little bit, I'd go file a support ticket to have it looked at.
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03:21<dcraig>what is this "invoice"??
03:28<arlen>a free gift
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04:05<dcraig>I'm currently upcycling old linodes into decorative planters
04:05<dcraig>any takers?
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05:17<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Longview support for Postgresql and Redis monitoring + custom alerts <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14955&p=73933#p73933>
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10:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Introducing CoreOS Container Linux on Linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14887&p=73934#p73934>
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12:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Does any one have any clever tricks for automating this somehow? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14954&p=73935#p73935>
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13:19<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Linode.com, Linode Manager and Linode API <https://status.linode.com/incidents/kn73wc8894h5>
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13:56<jeyner>hi
13:57<jeyner>i am new to linode and i need help how to configure ssl in linode, can someone point me to any documentation?
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13:58<ponas>jeyner: yes: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/
13:59<jeyner>thanks ponas
13:59<ponas>you'll probably want to take a look at the "let's encrypt" one
13:59<ponas>= free certificates
13:59<jeyner>i already bought one
13:59<jeyner>too bad i didnt know there's free
13:59<ponas>well next time I guess
13:59<jeyner>but i tried https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/obtain-a-commercially-signed-ssl-certificate-on-debian-and-ubuntu
14:00<ponas>yeah you've done that part
14:00<jeyner>however, i have some confusion how to proceed and how to know if i successfully installed the cert
14:00<ponas>do you use apache or nginx?
14:00<jeyner>apache
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14:00<ponas>ubuntu?
14:00<ponas>https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/ssl-apache2-debian-ubuntu
14:01<ponas>distro shouldn't really matter, the config part is the same
14:01<jeyner>yes ubuntu
14:02<jeyner>will try that
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14:18<jeyner>hi ponas
14:19<jeyner>i just tried it but somehow there is a step that isn't clear to me
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14:23<ponas>jeyner: which step is that
14:24<jeyner>in this instruction https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/obtain-a-commercially-signed-ssl-certificate-on-debian-and-ubuntu
14:24<jeyner>Add Your Root Certificate to the CA Bundle
14:24<jeyner>it says cp root-example.crt /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/
14:25<jeyner>what is this root-example.crt?
14:25<ponas>the thing is, if you have paid for a certificate already you don't need to do anything in that guide
14:25<ponas>no need to add any root certificates to a bundle
14:26<ponas>you just need to put your certificate and key somewhere and add the lines starting with SSL in the config example at https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/ssl-apache2-debian-ubuntu
14:26<ponas>except the SSLCACertificateFile line
14:27<jeyner>SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/example.com.crt
14:27<jeyner>it means that is the cert from that i bought right?
14:27<ponas>yeah
14:28<jeyner>what about this?
14:28<jeyner>SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/example.com.key
14:28<jeyner>from comodo, i got 3 files
14:28<jeyner>.crt, .ca-bundle and .p7b
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14:30<ponas>before you paid for the comodo cert, you were asked to generate a private key
14:30<ponas>the .key file is that one
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14:30<jeyner>ok noted
14:30<jeyner>and lastly
14:31<jeyner>SSLCACertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
14:31<jeyner>this one is?
14:31<ponas>you skip that line
14:31<ponas>no need for it
14:31<jeyner>ok
14:31<jeyner>let me restart
14:32<jeyner>i got this
14:32<jeyner>Failed to restart apache2.service: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files See system logs and 'systemctl status apache2.service' for details.
14:33<ponas>you should run the restart command as root
14:34<ponas>so: sudo systemctl restart apache2
14:34<jeyner>got it
14:34<jeyner>wohooo
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14:34<jeyner>i'm closer now
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14:35<jeyner>i tried this openssl s_client -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ -connect example.com:443
14:35<jeyner>and there is a reply
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14:36<ponas>did you replace example.com with your real domain?
14:36<jeyner>tyes
14:36<jeyner>yes
14:36<jeyner>i got this response
14:36<jeyner> HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2017 18:34:29 GMT Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Content-Length: 311 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>400 Bad Request</title> </head><body> <h1>Bad Request</h1> <p>Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.<br /> </p> <hr> <address>Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Server at www.apexsystem.org Port 4
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14:37<ponas>not sure how you get that
14:38<ponas>seems to work for me, except I'm getting redirected to a non-https url
14:38<jeyner>is there any configuration i need to do to redirect to https
14:40<jeyner>i think i got it
14:40<ponas>just look for URLs starting with http:// in your config
14:42<ponas>you probably want to redirect http to https: https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RedirectSSL
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18:10<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • My site is suddenly running really slowly <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14956&p=73936#p73936>
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19:17<Takyoji>So, is monthly billing deprecated, and all future new accounts will be hourly billing, or is there any sort of difference between monthly and hourly whatsoever, if you just use the same VPS for years (and not spin up any quick temporary VPS now and then, that only a exists for a few hours/days)?
19:19<Takyoji>Is the difference merely that billing is after a month, rather than billed at the start of the service?
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19:21<retro|blah>For the use case where you only have a single VPS? Yes, that does look to be the only difference.
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19:22<Takyoji>Just trying to see if there's any reason why I "shouldn't" upgrade, because I didn't really understand the intent of the option
19:23<retro|blah>In my case, I have a single VPS that's persistent. I get billed at the monthly cap for that service at the end of the month.
19:27<arlen>Takyoji: if you have any discounts currently from pre-paying, you would lose them
19:31<Takyoji>The only discounts are if you're pre-paying yearly, yes?
19:31<Takyoji>or agreed to a year-long, rather
19:32<Takyoji>(if that does even exist anymore)
19:33<dwfreed>yearly or biennially
19:36<Takyoji>Then that does clarify, yes, thank you.
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21:20<qrkourier>Halp, please? I'm making a preliminary capacity play using Linode for a project proposal. If I assign addresses in the private /17 for two or more Linodes will the traffic on eth0 that is to or from private addresses in the same /17 between Linodes on the same account be metered the same as traffic on eth0 that's flowing to or from the automatically assigned public IPv4 address?
21:22<Peng>What do you mean by "metered"?
21:22<Peng>It won't cost you money, but the same bandwidth limits (e.g. 1 Gbps) apply to all traffic on the interface, regardless of IP.
21:23<Peng>Also, teh account ID doesn't factor in to the situation.
21:23<qrkourier>Peng: would the traffic flowing from the private addresses count toward the bandwidth limit for the account, or only the traffic flowing from the public addresses? As I understand it, the traffic arriving on eth0 is not counted (i.e. uploads to the Linode).
21:23<Peng>By "bandwidth limit" do you mean the transfer limit, e.g. 2 TB of outbound traffic per month?
21:24<qrkourier>Peng: Now I see your comment "regardless of IP". Yes, I mean the outbound traffic ceiling.
21:24<qrkourier>i.e. the "transfer limit", yes.
21:24<Peng>Traffic over private IPv4 IPs does not count towards the transfer quota.
21:24<Peng>Nor does IPv6 traffic within the data center.
21:25<Peng>And, as you say, all inbound traffic is free.
21:25<qrkourier>Peng: Oh, that's great news!
21:26<qrkourier>Peng: Thank you for the information.
21:29<qrkourier>Peng: If I understand correctly, then the traffic graph legend means: "Priv out" is download from a private address, "Priv in" is upload to a private address, "Incoming" is upload to a public address, and "Outgoing" is the download from a public address and is the only metric that contributes to the transfer limit.
21:29<qrkourier>(of those four metrics)
21:30<Peng>On the graphs? I think "incoming"
21:30<Peng>On the graphs? I think "incoming" and "outgoing" combine private and public traffic.
21:30<Peng>But i'm not sure.
21:36<Zimsky>then who are you?
21:43<Eliz>who who, who who
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21:55<Peng>This is a silly question, but: Have any of the Dallas DNS resolvers been moved to Dallas 2?
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22:16<staticsafe>Peng: wait what is Dallas 2
22:16<staticsafe>rather
22:16<staticsafe>since when is there a Dallas 2?
22:16<Peng>I dunno.
22:16<Peng>https://blog.linode.com/2017/06/16/linode-turns-14/
22:17<Peng>It's fully integrated with Dallas 1; you don't really notice it.
22:17<Peng>Not like Tokyo 1 and Tokyo 2.
22:17<staticsafe>Peng: ah
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22:21<staticsafe>ah a new networking related blog post to read as well
22:22<staticsafe>should subscribe to the feed so I don't miss them
22:22<Peng>Just plug it into Google Read...uh...
22:23<staticsafe>Peng: RIP :(
22:24<staticsafe>Since then, we have extended our network backbone to all datacenters in North America and Europe. This means any communications between Linode datacenters will never leave our ASN 63949.
22:24<staticsafe>:O
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22:25<staticsafe>that is very cool, I love this
22:26<Peng>!mtr-dallas -nz speedtest.frankfurt.linode.com
22:26<linbot>Peng: [mtr-dallas] 8. AS63949 2a01:7e01:3::1 0.0% 3 117.2 117.1 117.1 117.2 0.0 -- 9. AS63949 2a01:7e01::4b 0.0% 3 116.7 116.7 116.7 116.8 0.0 -- see https://mtr-dallas.mn0.us/?c=b68d6361 for full mtr
22:26<Peng>AS???, is it. :P
22:27<staticsafe>Peng: 2001:678:34c::/48 isn't in public BGP
22:28<dwfreed>^
22:28<dwfreed>I just asked HE
22:28<Peng>:O it's another Linode range
22:29<dwfreed>it is
22:29<staticsafe>aye
22:30<Peng>I hadn't whoised it. :X
22:31<dwfreed>is hostgator decent at handling abuse?
22:34<Eliz>dwfreed: no
22:34<Eliz>dwfreed: well, depends on your definition of "good"
22:34<Eliz>dwfreed: I've seen them terminate clients for fake abuse reports lol
22:35<dwfreed>if I send them headers from an email containing malware, do they take appropriate action?
22:36<Eliz>dwfreed: maybe, it's worth a shot, but you might need to go one above them too if you can anymore lol
22:36<dwfreed>one above?
22:37<Eliz>I guess probably not possible anymore, but long long long ago you could stab The Planet to yell at them too lol
22:37<staticsafe>now that's a name I haven't heard in a while
22:39<Peng>It's only been bought twice and rebranded three or four times. :D
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23:08<jeyner>thanks a lot ponas
23:08<jeyner>it is working now!
23:08<jeyner>i really appreciate your help!
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23:09<jeyner>hi, i tried porting my website to linode, everything is working now. the SSL is already fine, thanks to ponas
23:09<jeyner>i can read from database but for some reason, i can't right on DB, has anyone experience this?
23:21<jeyner>i have narrowed it down, for some reason, update is working but insert isnt
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