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---Logopened Wed Jul 19 00:00:17 2017
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00:03<manij>hi I have a linnode account and i have 1 instance.. the instance is powered off
00:03<manij>but looks like I am still getting billed?
00:03<millisa>it is provisioned, you get billed.
00:03<millisa>if you want to not get billed, you have to delete the linode completely
00:03<warewolf>yes, because you still have IP Addresses dedicated to you, disk dedicated to you, etc
00:05<nate>manij: You're paying for guaranteed resources, not run-time
00:05<nate>that way you can always launch it at any point with no delays/queue/etc
00:05<Zimsky>you're still paying for the small wizard in the box to stand next to the levers in case you turn it on
00:05<manij>ah gotcha
00:06<Zimsky>he's still gotta be paid to be there
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00:24<sonu_nk>hi , i am facing some critical issue with my ubuntu server.. it is giving me "Error: Server unexpectedly closed network connection, Error: Could not connect to server" ... but it was working tomorrow perfect. with same credentials i tried today and its giving me error.. i cant access SFTP , No webmin working and no SSH working
00:29<sonu_nk> see my log here which i tried to access via remote console
00:31<kyhwana>sonu_nk: that's via lish?
00:32<sonu_nk>kyhwana, yes
00:32<kyhwana>you don't get anything after you type in root and hit enter?
00:33<sonu_nk>kyhwana, its not giving me anything .. hang on
00:34<sonu_nk>kyhwana, why this issue coming
00:34<kyhwana>no idea, you'd have to login to check your logs
00:34<kyhwana>If you can't login to your vps via lish, something has gone horribly wrong
00:35<sonu_nk>i will lost my web application ?
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00:38<kyhwana>It's probably still there, just not responding, for whatever reason. If you can't login via ssh or lish, all you can do is reboot and hope it comes back up (check lish)
00:40<sonu_nk>tried reboot via linode admin
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00:51<sonu_nk>kyhwana, you there?
00:51<sonu_nk>"Network Helper did not run: could not determine distribution or distribution version " this message coming when i reboot ubuntu server via linode panel
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00:53<kyhwana>sonu_nk: can you login?
00:54<sonu_nk>no.. ssh hang
00:54<kyhwana>(network helper is linode's thing that sticks an ipv4 network config file, if you can determine your distro)
00:54<kyhwana>sonu_nk: via lish?
00:55<sonu_nk>kyhwana, my linode panel "Your Linode is currently Powered Off"
00:55<sonu_nk>after reboot it is saying this
00:55<sonu_nk>should i boot it ?
00:55<kyhwana>er, yes? If it still says that after you tell it to boot, file a support ticket
00:56<Peng>What does the job queue part say?
00:56<Peng>Oh, never mind.
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00:58<sonu_nk>kyhwana, i can see my LISH window
00:58<sonu_nk>what i need to do now ?
00:58<kyhwana>sonu_nk: login?
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00:59<sonu_nk>[linode1269905@singapore149 lish]# what i need to so here ?
01:00<sonu_nk>i type : root it says "
01:00<sonu_nk>Unknown command 'root'
01:00<sonu_nk> "
01:01<kyhwana>what does "status" say?
01:03<sonu_nk>Permission denied, please try again. i am not able to login
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01:04<sonu_nk>Server Status
01:04<sonu_nk>Your Linode is currently
01:04<sonu_nk>Powered Off
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01:04<kyhwana>If you can't power it on, file a support ticket
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01:08<sonu_nk>ticket created... but why this issue come ?
01:08<sonu_nk>have any idea ?
01:10<kyhwana>no idea, linode can probably tell you why
01:12<sonu_nk>they have issue with singapore data center
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01:21<Peng>Likely a coincidence
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02:07<sonu_nk>Hi Rajeev
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03:01<sabin>i have lets encrypt in the server. I want some specific file to run over http. How can I do that?
03:03<kyhwana>sabin: be more specific? "some specific file"?
03:05<sabin>everytime i run a file like http://<domain>/media/<filename> it gets redirected to https. Its because of Let's Encrypt. Can I allow some files to run under http ?
03:08<kyhwana>sabin: that's because you probably have a 301 redirect rule setup. I'm sure whatever webserver you have will let you not redirect to https for specific paths/files.
03:08<sabin>is it specific? if not i can send you the link
03:08<kyhwana>The real question is, what are you trying to achieve and why?
03:12<sabin>my client wants to open his file (which is in our server) using http only because he is facing some problem. But i cant send him the feed excluding https. And my developer is on vacation and im very weak on these things
03:13<sabin>it would be a great help if you could provide me some guidance
03:13<sabin>or anything to clarify my confusion
03:14<kyhwana>sabin: check your webserver for 301 redirect rules? and check the docs to see if you can add URL exceptions for that rule, etc.
03:18<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • perfect edb to pst conversion software <>
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03:21<clopz>Needed some advice on a linode server ... anyone here who can give me info ?
03:21<clopz>Im wondering ... can i get a linode server pre-installed with the LAMP or MEAN stack?
03:21<clopz>or how can i pay for getting these installed additionally ?
03:21<kyhwana>clopz: there are stackscripts that can deploy all that for you
03:22<kyhwana>linode also offer professional services
03:22<clopz>how can i find out costs for the same ?
03:24<clopz>thanks a lot for the info :-)
03:24<sabin>kyhwana: i can rules in my .htaccess file
03:25<sabin>can you specify me the code or something
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03:25<sabin>sorry for the bad english
03:25<kyhwana>sabin: nope, I have no idea what your config/server is, so you'll have to figure that out on your own
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03:26<mikeM>Have you ever tried to install custom image to linode ?
03:26<mikeM>Have you ever tried to install custom image on linode ?
03:27<kyhwana>mikeM: there's a linode doc on how to do that somewhere
03:28<sabin>okay i will look onto it
03:30<mikeM>yes, i found this manual too
03:30<mikeM>but it will not work for me
03:30<mikeM>i tried to install ubuntu 6.10
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03:31<Ikaros>Oh my goodness.
03:31<mikeM>i have 11 yes old server and a have to migrate it
03:32<Ikaros>Yeah...that's unfortunate.
03:32<mikeM>will i run ubuntu 6.10 in linode ?
03:32<kyhwana>well, good luck with that
03:32<mikeM>how do you think ?
03:33<Ikaros>I doubt you're going to have much luck with that. Nobody supports that anymore.
03:35<mikeM>Yes, I know (((
03:35<mikeM>Do you have any advices ?
03:36<kyhwana>find some way to provide the same services on a newer platform/distro
03:36<kyhwana>(and then make sure you have procedures in place to upgrade/patch said services/OS in the future)
03:41<mikeM>ok, thank you guys
03:41<mikeM>i will try
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04:38<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • LAMP memory usage for wordpress is very high <>
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04:56<subhnish>where am i?
04:56<Zimsky>middle earth
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04:56<subhnish>Is there any promocode working on linode
04:57<Zimsky>there's one in the linode docs iirc
04:57<subhnish>I got one, 20$ plan, code is podcastinit
04:57<subhnish>something like that
04:58<subhnish>And does linode support entropay virtual credit card
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04:58<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • How to I directly acquire IPv4 address space allocation? <>
04:59<subhnish> And does linode support entropay virtual credit card
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05:00<subhnish>I really dont know where am i, is this Linode Customer support or just a chat between random peoples
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05:01<Peng>Some people here are Linode staff. Most are not.
05:01<subhnish>Any linode staff, does entropay virtua card work on linode
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05:02<Peng>it's a Visa credit card, right?
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05:03<Peng>Type faster, Peng!
05:04<Woet>nah, people just dont have patience
05:04<Zimsky>unless they are a doctor
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05:09<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Real Memory 42% vs Virtual @ 99% <>
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05:30<SKMDRONY>Thank you for completing your signup! Your account is currently being reviewed. You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!
05:30<SKMDRONY>any one help me
05:30<SKMDRONY>still pending
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05:31<SKMDRONY>i am new here not understand
05:33<arlen>check your spam folder
05:34<arlen>then wait and they'll contact you soon
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05:37<SKMDRONY>only i receive Payment Receipt
05:38<SKMDRONY>i need it little urgent bcoz i want to check linode to linode pop latency like SGP to EU and SGP to USA
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06:00<Woet>how is that urgent?
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06:39<Praveen_>Hi, Can any one tell how much one public IP costs at linode.
06:40<Woet>Praveen_: why do you need more than one?
06:40<Praveen_>I just need one.
06:41<Woet>Praveen_: every linode comes with one.
06:41<Woet>Praveen_: so theres no extra charge if you only need one.
06:42<Praveen_>Thanks @Woet
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07:44<UKn0Me>Holy shit Woet was helpful
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07:44<Woet>as always
07:46*Celti chooses to read UKn0Me's nick as United Kingdom Gnome.
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09:09<pointedcon>Hey I need help \
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09:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Announcement - A library and tool for creating clusters on Linode <>
09:10<pointedcon>Out web page is not working error 502 bad gateway
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09:10<pointedcon>502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.10.0 (Ubuntu) help
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09:24<dzho>oh well
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09:28<Santiago_>hi guys!
09:28<dzho>Santiago_: hi!
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09:31<Santiago_>do you know if I can add a cPanel license to my linode?
09:31<Santiago_>I mean.. if linode sells cpanel licenses
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09:42<Peng>cPanel is included with Linode Managed. Otherwise, you can obtain a cPanel license elsewhere, and install it yourself.
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09:49<Santiago_>great thanks!
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09:49<Roger_>hello everyone
09:50<Roger_>are you here ?
09:50<Roger_>heelo Peng
09:50<Roger_>i got a trrouble
09:50<Roger_>can you help me ?
09:50<Peng>Maybe. What's going on?
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09:51<Roger_>why i cannot install PHP 5.3 or 5.4 on my VPS ?
09:51<Roger_>just install PHP 5.6
09:52<Roger_>i don't understand
09:55<jcanto>too old PHP versions
09:55<Celti>PHP 5 is very old
09:56<Roger_>so linode VSP not support PHP 5.3 or 5.4, right ?
09:57<jcanto>that is not a Linode restrictin
09:57<Peng>You can install anything, with enough effort.
09:57<Peng>You shouldn't, but you can.
09:58<jcanto>one of my Linodes is CentOS 7 running PHP 5.3
09:58<jcanto>but was not easy :(
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10:49<synfinatic>php 5.3? LOLO!
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10:50<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Best Citi Credit Cards <>
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11:00<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • LAMP memory usage for wordpress is very high <> || General Discussion • Why is terminal access to my Linode so slow? <>
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11:16<ang_>is Zoya really so incompetent that they haven't fixed the issue with after like 5 days?
11:17<dwfreed>they probably haven't even noticed
11:18<ang_>according to Linode they have a ticket open with Zoya
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11:19<Peng>It might be NetDepot's fault
11:20<Peng>Well, if Linode has a ticket with Zayo, and Hostineer has a ticket with NetDepot, at least one of them ought to fix it. :P
11:20<ang_>i reached out the them as well. they won't fix shit because I'm not their customer. even tho the entire block is hosed
11:20<ang_>Hostineer was a different subnet i think :(
11:21<Peng>Seem to be part of the same /16 as you
11:21<Peng>Different /24s no doubt
11:22<HoopyCat>it's also vacation season, so it's possible whomever handles reverse DNS stuff is on vacation. it's a really really low priority thing for carriers and i wouldn't be surprised if there's just one dude who forgot a . in a perl script and is now off in the Andes
11:23<HoopyCat>(hopefully they don't die from exposure)
11:23<ang_>excuses, excuses :)
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12:25<kronos003>what is a good site for checking my email server security
12:26<Eugene>"MX Toolbox"
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12:27<Eugene>The big things you need to check are whether you are an open relay, what domain(s) are being accepted, and whether STARTTLS is required for login/submission
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12:29<kronos003>does not apear that starttls is enabled
12:30<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • New control panel <>
12:34<kronos003>i'm trying to remember - does linode to linode traffic count against your data limit?
12:35<Peng>kronos003: Intra-data center IPv6 and private IPv4 does not count
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12:38<kronos003>to enable TLS on a mail server, do I need to get a ssl cert?
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12:39<MajObviousman>when you installed the mail server, it likely auto-generated a self-signed one for you
12:39<MajObviousman>that should be sufficient, but should you feel the need, you can just get a letsencrypt cert
12:39<kronos003>will other servers be willing to communicate with the self signed cert?
12:40<FluffyFoxeh>I haven't encountered a mail server that cared about the cert
12:40<MajObviousman>yes. So far as I know, strict TLS certificate checking is uncommon in the mta world
12:40<MajObviousman>it's merely used as a vehicle for initiating the secure tunnel, not proving identity
12:41<MajObviousman>the assumption is that if this mta isn't the ultimate destination, it will forward the email along for us
12:41<MajObviousman>similar to IP
12:42<trippeh>yes, if you want your certs to be checked it has to be specified in DNSSEC, otherwise it is just opportunistic
12:43<kronos003>I'm running virtualmin and letting it manage things for the most part
12:44<Eugene>Let's Encrypt certs work fine for MTA usage
12:45<Eugene>There seems to be some debate/change going on in the mail world lately; Google and a lot of other big free email players are stepping up their TLS game. So I now consider that to be a necessity to send(or receive!) email
12:45<kronos003>if it helps cut out spam, I'm all for it
12:45<MajObviousman>it's just one more bit of evidence to be used in the cornucopia of collected data for a spam decision
12:45<MajObviousman>all other things being equal, a mta that uses TLS should be considered "more better" than one without
12:45<Eugene>Well in my Postfix setup I have it required for incoming mail. :-p
12:46<kronos003>I've just miggrated my domain over to centos 7 from an old centos5.1 system
12:46<Eugene>Which is technically aganst some RFCs and does drop some legitimate mail, but on the other hand I don't get any spam
12:46<MajObviousman>kronos003: yow
12:46<Eugene>We still have some CentOS5 at $DAYJOB!
12:46<Eugene>Its great
12:46<acald3ron>Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Debian buster/sid • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2380P CPU @ 3.10GHz (2.00GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.8 GiB Total (1.6 GiB Free) Swap: 3.9 GiB Total (3.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 84.0 GB / 309.6 GB (225.6 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 630] @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller • Uptime: 2h 8m 6s
12:46<kronos003>yeah - had no issues for the last 7 yrs or so
12:47<MajObviousman>5 hit EOL a few months back
12:47<MajObviousman>I assume that's why the move
12:47<kronos003>now I'm having to brush up on everything from mail config to new security best practices
12:47<MajObviousman>yeaah, welcome to systemd
12:48<Eugene>"best practice" is "Pay G Suite".
12:48<kronos003>so far it hasn't bit me yet
12:48<MajObviousman>also, selinux isn't the scary demon monster it appeared to be 10 years ago. Enforcing is a nice thing to have
12:48<kronos003>I've been runnign fedora on my desktop, so selinux doesnt scare me
12:48<MajObviousman>makes sense
12:48<MajObviousman>it didn't fully click for me until I did one of those coloring books
12:49<dwfreed>selinux irritates the crap out of me
12:49<MajObviousman>I bet you loved grsec even more
12:49<Eugene>Did you try turning it off and back on again?
12:49<ang_>@Peng, heh. I got in touch with the guy from hostineer. he sent me a huge list of all the records he found that are screwed up. at least 64.22.{71,84,103,109,124,125}.0/24 are used by
12:49<dwfreed>MajObviousman: actually never dealt with it, and now that it's dying, I won't have to \o/
12:50<trippeh>I dont mind SELinux and I like systemd a lot - am I weird?
12:50<MajObviousman>it's not dying. Just going private
12:50<MajObviousman>trippeh: yes, but perhaps not for those reasons
12:50<dwfreed>so the vast majority of people that use it won't be using it anymore
12:51<Eugene>I also like systemd's ideas, but don't drink the KoolAid
12:51<MajObviousman>ksplice went private. Something rose to replace it
12:51<kronos003>does anybody use sendmail anymore?
12:51<MajObviousman>we do, apparently
12:51<MajObviousman>I'm working a sendmail ticket today :(
12:51<dwfreed>ohgod, sendmail
12:51<MajObviousman>I thought we were all onto postfix, but apparently we have some _very_ legacy systems still using sendmail. To my horror.
12:51*MajObviousman muttergrumbles
12:51<dwfreed>kill it with fire
12:52<kronos003>wow - I remember when I first started I used sendmail, but in less than a year, ended up migrating over to postfix
12:52<dwfreed>oh, one of the things that irritated me most recently about selinux was that I couldn't ls my own SSH agent socket
12:52<kronos003>dwfreed: I use custom policies when I run into stuff like that
12:53<dwfreed>I didn't have control over this system
12:53<dwfreed>and the people that do are... let's just say not very bright
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12:53<Eugene>Was your agent socket in the wrong place
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12:54<dwfreed>no, just lost the environment variable
12:54<MajObviousman>suuuper annoying
12:54<dwfreed>that or I wanted to use the socket from another session, I forget
12:55<MajObviousman>one of several reasons why I set my keys to time out after 4 hours
12:55<MajObviousman>if I have to abandon an agent, it won't hurt
12:55<dwfreed>my passwords are in my password manager, which is just a command away
12:56<dwfreed>but this was a remote system, and my keys weren't on it, so it would have been easier to just grab the existing forwarded socket than transfer the keys
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14:14<trchkov>Can anyone help me
14:15<trchkov>I have problem with my websites.
14:15<trchkov>They are very slow.
14:15<trchkov>Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
14:15<trchkov>They are slow from 2-3 hours ago.
14:15<synfinatic>seems fast to me
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14:15<dwfreed>it's likely your issue is specific to your Linode
14:16<Zimsky>slow can be a bunch of things
14:16<dwfreed>usually when people's sites are slow, they're OOMing
14:16<trchkov>It was OK until a couple of hours ago.
14:16<Zimsky>you shouldn't oom too much
14:16<trchkov>Here is one of my websites
14:16<trchkov>please try to open the website, and then open a category.
14:16<Zimsky>dwfreed: or they suck at writing backends
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14:17<synfinatic>trchkov you'll need to login to your linode and debug from there
14:17<synfinatic>look at cpu & mem utilization
14:17<trchkov>i already logged in.
14:17<dwfreed>log into the Linode Manager and look at the graphs of your Linode; on the I/O graph, do you see a red line above 0?
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14:17<trchkov>I opened a ticket also
14:18<trchkov>Yes I do.
14:18<trchkov>Also, there is yellow picks from 2-3 hours ago.
14:18<trchkov>There are*
14:19<dwfreed>take a screenshot of the graph and upload it somewhere? (imgur works)
14:21<dwfreed>I was asking if the red line was above 0, which it isn't
14:22<trchkov>Sorry then.
14:22<trchkov>And do you know what may be the problem?
14:23<dwfreed>hmm, your site seems fast from here
14:23<trchkov>Please try to open a category
14:23<trchkov>for example
14:24<synfinatic>if certain pages are slow, then you need to ask yourself what is that page doing on the back end?
14:24<synfinatic>ie: accessing a database, etc
14:24<dwfreed>I've clicked the category pages too
14:24<dwfreed>things like request counts can slow things down too
14:24<jcanto>nice horses!!
14:24<trchkov>i cannot even open this one
14:25<jcanto>feels very fast
14:25<synfinatic>what do your webserver logs say?
14:25<dwfreed>that one feels like hitting maxclients
14:25<dwfreed>which will put messages in your webserver's error log
14:25<synfinatic>the second one is a different box?
14:26<synfinatic>they resolve to different IP addresses
14:26<trchkov>2017/07/19 18:26:07 [error] 3709#3709: *3466 upstream timed out (110: Connection timed out) while reading response header from upstream, client:, server:, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://", host: ""
14:26<jcanto>you are using cloudflare
14:26<trchkov>i have vestacp
14:26<trchkov>with nginx php-fpm
14:26<trchkov>yes im using cloudflare too.
14:27<dwfreed>jcanto: explains why the horse one was fast, was probably served by CF
14:27<trchkov>all of them are on cloudflare.
14:27<synfinatic>so what's going on in your box? cpu/memory
14:27<trchkov>root@horse-bond:~# free -m total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 3948 1507 1445 73 995 2276 Swap: 511 0 511
14:29<dwfreed>trchkov: could you pastebin that? it did not print very well
14:29<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
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14:29<trchkov>i have 2GB free memory.
14:30<trchkov>It is not a memory usage problem definitely.
14:30<synfinatic>so cpu util? what do your logs say?
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14:31<synfinatic>looks like your fcgi isn't responding. you need to figure out why that is
14:32<synfinatic>is it starved for CPU resources? or has it crashed/hung/erroring out?
14:33<trchkov>2017/07/19 18:26:09 [error] 3708#3708: *3739 open() "/home/admin/web/worldofengi iled (2: No such file or directory), client:, server: worldofengi HTTP/1.1", host: "", referrer: "" 2017/07/19 18:32:51 [error] 3709#3709: *5310 upstream timed out (110: Connection timed out) while reading response header from upstream, client: 92.53.
14:33<synfinatic>"No such file or directory"
14:34<synfinatic>seems like a red flag. you'll need to debug your config
14:34<trchkov>2017/07/19 18:32:51 [error] 3709#3709: *5310 upstream timed out (110: Connection timed out) while reading response header from upstream, client:, server:, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://", host: "", referrer: ""
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14:35<abhi>my i know your server location
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14:36<abhi>all over the world
14:36<dwfreed>^ listed there
14:37<abhi>do you have any server in parth austrilia
14:37<dwfreed>is it in the list?
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14:45<Eugene>Hi, how are you
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14:48<kronos003>looks like I have TLS up and running
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14:50<Ashsih>Hello, Does Linode provide DDoS mitigation service?
14:50<kronos003>are you planning on getting ddosed?
14:51<Ashsih>Nope, but our website frequently gets attacked
14:51<Ashsih>it happens every often, like 3 to 4 times in a month for the last 4 months
14:51<nate>Ashsih: Few VPS providers really offer stuff like that, and the ones that do usually charge a good bit extra for it considering the hardware costs
14:51<nate>perhaps look into cloudflare?
14:52<kronos003>I was about to suggest them
14:52<Ashsih>Hmm, thanks for the info. I'll check with cloudflare.
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15:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • slow page load times, 5-6sec for 2mb page. <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • How to get the codebase from Linode to look through and maybe build? <>
15:02<nate>"codebase of linode" wut
15:02<kronos003>how much legit email will I not get if I reject email from servers who dont run TLS?
15:04<millisa>lots probably.
15:08<MajObviousman>better to use the fact as another input to your spam filtering decision
15:11<kronos003>how long until the world starts running solely on tls do you think?
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15:13<MajObviousman>there's always going to be people rolling old cpanel or something where TLS wasn't required or set up by default
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15:16<kronos003>so looks like I still need to uptade the reversedns for my host to reflect the new hostname. I can't remember if thats something I need to talk to linode about? is it?
15:18<arlen>remote access tab
15:18<arlen>there's a link there for the reverse dns
15:18<kronos003>found it
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15:31<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Tool to use to check packet loss <>
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15:56<BigKahuna>Hi folks , yesterday i came here asking for guidance , but to really complete my wishes i need your help once again
15:57<BigKahuna>I ve mannaged to setup a new Linode with LAMP ( Ubuntu + Apache2+ mySQL+ PHP5) , nevertheless i dont how to make it work for the multiple wordpress website i have
15:57<BigKahuna>could somebody help me
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16:01<dzho>BigKahuna: best I can offer you is
16:03<BigKahuna>thanks @dzho still stuck even that one hehe
16:03<@mquatrani>Ayyy BigKahuna: Congrats on getting this far :)
16:04<@mquatrani>have you had a look at this doc?
16:04<@mquatrani>that's what you want for multiple sites on one webserver
16:05<BigKahuna>yeah I followed it
16:06<@mquatrani>ok, well so we don't spam the channel, please feel free to PM me and I will do my best to help you out
16:06<BigKahuna>but, if for example i enter my ip adress it obviously send me to the index.html i upload thru SFTP , but i think that i cant access the wordpress website cuz they are on multiple folders and I also havent been able to upload to mysql folders ( i dont know where to put them)
16:07<BigKahuna>i Have a backup of my past server of the Home Directory / mysql / public_html
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16:08<BigKahuna>any suggestion ?
16:08<@mquatrani>Hi. I just pm'd you. Please feel free to reply to me there
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16:15<ughugh>Hello! Does anyone know when we can start creating servers on Dallas 2?
16:15<millisa>you already are
16:15<ughugh>If I choose Dallas will it automatically be at Dallas 2?
16:15<millisa>as of like a month ago, supposedly all new servers and migrated servers are supposed to be there
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16:16<millisa>I didn't see it in their birthday announcement, but they sent a ticket out about a week ago that mentioned it
16:16<ughugh>We got a ticket that one of our servers will be migrated august 17. I'm sure most of our others will come soon after that.
16:18<millisa>getting a redacted screenshot up
16:21<ughugh>I wonder who hosts the new data center
16:22<millisa>Dunno, I was figuring they'd put up a new blog post about it sometime soon
16:22<millisa>i haven't read the bridge letter yet; it'd say there probably.
16:22<ughugh>Hopefully not Zayo
16:23<millisa>it may not matter with their new backbone
16:23<millisa>er, with linode's that is
16:23<millisa>as long as it's got good power and linode controls the routing and can send stuff to the best peering locations, they could have it in a (audited) garage
16:24<HoopyCat>Scheduled Maintenance - Need to get the snow tires out from behind your Linode's rack
16:25<millisa>Scheduled Maintenance - Raccoon got in, trying to coax out with syrup
16:25<HoopyCat>Scheduled Maintenance - Squirrel in attic, and your Linode is under the roof hatch
16:26<millisa>Squirrels are the number on cause of power outages, so that's serious.
16:26<ughugh>Email says new state of the art facility.
16:26<millisa>I like art!
16:26<Ikaros>I'm not convinced. >.>
16:26<ughugh>me neither :)
16:26<Ikaros>There's too much bad history for it to be THAT easy
16:26<Ikaros>Just saying
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16:27<millisa>caker: new blog post about the new dallas dc, please?
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16:29<ughugh>I've hear this before: "When your Linode migrates, it will be cleanly shut down"
16:30<Ikaros>ughugh: I save them the trouble and cleanly do it myself. :p
16:30<millisa>I have migrated at least one in the timeframe that supposedly they were moving to the new dc. I didn't notice a timing difference compared to other dallas migrations in the spring
16:30<ughugh>needless to say, I've had data loss with that
16:30<Ikaros>(after proper prep that is)
16:30<ughugh>Yup, I plan to do that?
16:31<ughugh>I'm not sure which of my machines ar at old data center and which are at new :(
16:31<millisa>ughugh: did your server migration ticket specifically say it was to start migrating folks over? or was there some other issue that caused you to need to migrate and they just mentioned you'd end up in the new dc?
16:31<Ikaros>I'd be more willing to set up shop if I knew what facility it was in.
16:31<Ikaros>I had to cut costs some time back by removing my Dallas-based Linode
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16:32<ughugh>"I just found a bug in your web and it can cause damage your web so can we report here. then will i get bounty reward in paypal or btc for security bug"
16:34<ughugh>Guess I'll just firewall his IP
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16:40<dwfreed>Ikaros: the FMT2 move went off without a hitch
16:41<dwfreed>source: I was working for Linode at the time, did many ticket updates about it
16:41*Ikaros nods
16:42<Ikaros>Sad to say I no longer require a Fremont presence as I already have a Los Angeles presence elsewhere ;)
16:42<Ikaros>But yeah I'm considering setting up again in Dallas.
16:42<ughugh>Why don't places have Chicago or Kansas or something central data centers?
16:43<Ikaros>No offense but Chicago is the absolute last place I would ever want to host something. For numerous reasons.
16:43<millisa>I hated trying to get a cable run...
16:43<ughugh>Would love to hear those reasons :)
16:44<Ikaros>Some political, some routing-related, some related to hosting options up that way.
16:44<ughugh>Vultr has a chicago center---but our machine kept getting rebooted so we left them
16:44<dwfreed>Chicago wouldn't be a bad place for the midwest, but really anywhere in the US is not very far away
16:45<dwfreed>source: I live in Michigan, all (Internet) roads lead to Chicago
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16:46<HoopyCat>live in western NY, all internet roads lead to chicago
16:47<HoopyCat>('tho tbh that has improved significantly in the past year, and now traffic from here to newark does actually go direct to NYC)
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16:48<ughugh>I prefer al my data to be routed through Pakistan.
16:50<Ikaros>That reminds me, wasn't Illinois all but broke 'cause nobody could ever agree on a budget up there and was about to have their credit rating dropped to 'junk'?
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16:51<HoopyCat>fortunately, that has little to do with the ability to route packets or power servers
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16:52*Rainbow waves at HoopyCat
16:52<millisa>Oliver_: Greetings.
16:52<Ikaros>HoopyCat: Wasn't trying to relate it
16:53<Oliver_>Have you ever considered offering a $2.50 I was wondering if you would be able to offer a $2.50 VPS to me with half the resources? I am looking for something small.
16:53<HoopyCat>Rainbow =^.^= how's you?
16:53<Oliver_>Sorry, forgot to clear my message there. You go two wordings as a result!
16:53<Ikaros>There's one particular company that operates a DC up there that wrecks havoc with me down here whenver I'm going to manage a server hosted in Chicago.
16:53<dwfreed>4 years ago if you told me Linode would offer a $5 plan, I'd have laughed so hard you'd probably have me committed
16:54<Ikaros>I could swear they deliberately throttle my traffic...
16:54<dwfreed>but I'd wager that $5 is going to be as low as they're willing to go
16:54<dwfreed>because the support workload increased dramatically with the introduction of that plan
16:55<Oliver_>Ah, that's understandable @dwfreed
16:56<millisa>the $5 service is worth more than $5 in my opinion.
16:56<Ikaros>Wonder if "you get what you pay for" still applies, lol
16:56<Oliver_>@millisa I totally agree. I only wanted the smaller plan in return for less resources, but can understand why they'd not want that
16:57<Ikaros>I pay something like $3 for a pretty decent cloud instance - the tradeoff to that is (much) lower priority for support.
16:57<Ikaros>(with another company that is)
16:59<jcanto>maybe a $1.00 plan would be possible, but what about the IP's??
16:59<HoopyCat>my willingness to cheap out on VPSes is put into perspective by the fact that i paid $10 yesterday because i didn't feel like washing a blanket myself
17:00<millisa>I still have a grandfathered $1 256mb atlantic plan...
17:00<HoopyCat>(mind you, i was hoping to sneak it in via the by-the-pound wash-dry-fold bag, but she caught me)
17:01<millisa>you can't put one over on the foldnfluffsters
17:01<Ikaros>I can picture you actually doing that too
17:01<Ikaros>Not sure how
17:03<ughugh>Looks like about 20 minutes to migrate my linode
17:03<millisa>is that the estimate on the web interface? it's notoriously conservative
17:04<ughugh>I'm basing it off one I'm migrating that's half the sizew
17:04<Ikaros>Hm. Think I'll use the time to go around my 'fleet' and run any software upgrades needed.
17:05<Oliver_>Is this IRC mainly Linode discussion or laundry decisions? :P
17:05<millisa>they share many letters
17:05<Oliver_>I'm in.
17:05<Ikaros>Oliver_ lol, whenever there's someone in with a question it's focused on that in general (most of the time), outside of those moments it's pretty much w/e.
17:06<ughugh>It's general chat amongst people who know what Linode is.
17:06<Ikaros>Slow on the response are we?
17:07<Ikaros>Speaking of which. Somebody thought it'd be fun to mess with the fire extinguisher in the laundry facility at my apartment.
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17:08<Ikaros>I'm going over to do my laundry and I find the place a disaster with dry chemical all over the place coating *everything* in the building.
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17:09<Ikaros>Question though is, aside from the obvious property damage, would that also be considered some sort of crime too
17:10<ughugh>one server migrated, 20 to go!
17:10<ughugh>It could be
17:11<ughugh>I'm not a police officer or lawyer though
17:11<ughugh>so I dunno
17:11<millisa>just vandalism/mischief.
17:12<dzho>I guess it depends on where you live.
17:12<dzho>If it's in Kensington, then it's government policy.
17:12<dzho>(too soon?)
17:12<Ikaros>Eh since it was related to fire safety I was a bit curious given that was what was tampered with
17:12<ughugh>Here, if the crime isn't in progress they'll just tell you to bugger off
17:14<ughugh>ugh, can't close ticket
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17:19<Ikaros>See, thing is, I not only live here but I do work for their management too - matter of fact I lock and unlock laundry. The policy in general is, we can't force anyone out of the facility (such as when its closing time and they refuse to leave), instead we call the police in. Apartment manager was so ticked about it she instructed me to lock it when I get home now. Close of business for management
17:19<Ikaros>is now also close of laundry.
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17:23<Ikaros>Oh come ON you damn internet...
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17:24<Ikaros>Things getting jumpy on the IRC client. >.<
17:25<Rainbow>HoopyCat, good, good. Out in Cali these days!
17:26<Rainbow>Got poached away from FB
17:26<Rainbow>so, even moar monies :D
17:26*Woet poaches Rainbow and finishes them in the oven
17:27*Rainbow dies
17:30<HoopyCat>Rainbow: yay! let's see... i left my old gig, came out as trans, started a new gig, got forced out of my house, got a new apartment, and... i think that's just about it
17:31<HoopyCat>i started a mastodon instance somewhere in there
17:31<Rainbow>wait what
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17:33<millisa>and painted nails to match the new dress.
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17:45<HoopyCat>things i hate about USB thumb drives: slow writes, small physical presence
17:45<HoopyCat>i keep losing them on my desk... i want to zip-tie them to an old radiator or something
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17:46<HoopyCat>millisa: indeed!
17:46<millisa>i put mine into pill containers that get labelled and they go in one of the tool drawers with remotes and other adapters/dongles
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17:47<millisa>i've been using those yard sale type price tags to label the drives:
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18:11<kronos003>watching my maillog, its so nice to see the spammers be disconnected form my system without being able to spam me. Now if only they would follow up by permanently filing themselves into /dev/null
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19:39<kronos003>is there a way to snapshot my linode outside of backups?
19:40<dzho>from outside the linode, I don't think so? From inside, you could use LVM or various other such things.
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20:25<millisa>you could shut the linode down, boot into rescue mode, and dd it out somewhere
20:28<rsdehart>the call is coming from inside the linode
20:28<Eugene>TBQH, I've had good success with dd of a live system
20:28<Eugene>But I'm nuts
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20:30<synfinatic>backups are easy. restores are hard :)
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20:52<kronos003>so joomla wants to see a BARE minimum of php 5.6 but it would like to see php 7.x - is there any danger in using php7.1?
20:53<dwfreed>not really
21:12<Eugene>Its a very large number
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22:00<Eugene>HoopyCat - how nice of a blanket? I've thrown out dirty ones that cost more
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22:03<gecco>dropping packets to dallas again, is anyone seeing this?
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22:09<gecco>yeah, submitted an MTR, all my nodes in dallas are going up and down right now
22:10<gecco>HOST: debian Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. AS36351 ( 0.0% 100 0.8 0.7 0.6 1.7 0.0 2. AS63949 0.0% 100 0.9 0.8 0.6 2.1 0.2 3. AS63949
22:11<millisa>(i'm seeing intermittent loss to dfw, too)
22:12<gecco>yeah, its all going to hell
22:13<gecco>I can get to google, but not atlanta
22:14<millisa>it mostly looks better for me, though
22:16<gecco>its starting to stabilize
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22:21<FluffyFoxeh>nothing on status about it
22:22<gecco>it looks more like an ATT issue to me
22:22<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • memory allocation for LEMP wordpress 1GB linode <>
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23:03<kronos003>just installed joomla 3.7.3 and it doesnt look very good. I rememebr the templates from 1.5 - looked much nicer
23:04<Zimsky>same can be said for beyonce
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23:06<vonss>anybody here
23:06<Zimsky>not in the traditional sense
23:06<Zimsky>we are part of the ether now
23:06<FluffyFoxeh>what is this "here" you speak of
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23:07<vonss>want to ask if currently I have linode hosting and setting dns on linode, but after month I want migrate to another host, does my DNS still working if I delete all my linode host. Thanks
23:07<millisa>you've got to have at least one provisioned linode for them to do your dns
23:11<Zimsky>it's a doggy dog world
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