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00:25<modelmook>hello
00:25<arlen>hi
00:26<MrPPS>Sup modelmook
00:26<modelmook>how do the referral program works ? do you get the money or just credit to the account ?
00:26<arlen>credit
00:26<modelmook>that sucks
00:27<arlen>why?
00:27<kyhwana>.. that's how most referral programs work
00:27<arlen>free money to pay for your linodes
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00:27<modelmook>Just wondering just how someone promoted it
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00:28<arlen>:-/
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00:59<Eugene>Don't worry, be Linodin'
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02:33<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • How to get the codebase from Linode to look through and maybe build? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15016&p=74115#p74115>
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04:46<zenkilies>Hello guys, when I add a private IP into my linode, I can't access it via SSH to it's public IP address anymore - any help :(
04:48<dwfreed>did you configure both addresses statically?
04:48<dwfreed>!static
04:48<linbot>DHCP will only provide one IP to a Linode; when using more than one IP address (including private), a static configuration must be used: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/
04:48<dwfreed>alternately, you can use Linode's Network Helper to do the work for you
04:49<dwfreed>(does require a reboot to take effect, though, as the helper runs just before booting your Linode)
04:50<zenkilies>Oh thanks dwfreed, I saw
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07:04<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Gay mailing list sign snail mail Workers and Jobs <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15019&p=74116#p74116>
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07:13<RP_>What is the refund policy on hosting plan?
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07:16<hawk>!tos
07:16<linbot>https://www.linode.com/tos
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07:25<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • memory allocation for LEMP wordpress 1GB linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15018&p=74117#p74117>
07:27<GlennS>Am I right in thinking that, if I want to use the API to boot a machine into rescue mode (so I can put a custom distribution on), that I need to use API v4?
07:27<GlennS>or is there somewhere in the v3 API that will allow that?
07:28<GlennS>in particular I was wondering if "RootDeviceCustom" might have some special option
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07:35<jfaiueka>hi - anyone on dallas 1 got an email from support advising their linode will be forced to migrate to dallas 2?
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07:37<@jchun>jfaiueka : Tickets were sent out a bit ago. Do you have any specific questions?
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07:37<jfaiueka>yes, i have multiple linodes, they all need to be in the same dc
07:38<jfaiueka>and you don't provide migrate buttons for the non-scheduled linodes
07:38<@jchun>Dallas 1 and Dallas 2 work as if they are the same datacenter. Private networking is available if that's your concern.
07:38<jfaiueka>latency is the concern yes.
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07:39<dwfreed>latency over several miles is minimal
07:39<dwfreed>considering it's traversing over fiber
07:39<kyhwana>dwfreed: but the speed of light is so slow
07:39<kyhwana>and (2/3's the speed of light in fibre, currently)
07:39<jfaiueka>okay, previously > 5ms pings and linodes had trouble
07:39<@jchun>If you'd like to migrate the non-scheduled Linodes proactively, you can ticket in and request we configure those migrations for you.
07:41<jfaiueka>jchun - i'd like to minimise downtime... and co-ordinating with support is going to be a pain
07:41<dwfreed>support just sets up the migration
07:41<dwfreed>you click the button to initiate it when you want
07:42<@jchun>You can give us a call if you'd like. We'd be happy to help coordinate the process.
07:42<dwfreed>(note that they prefer it done within 24 hours of requesting it, to avoid ending up on a host that has had all its resources allocated to other Linodes in the meantime)
07:43<jfaiueka>dwfreed - great if they can enable the migration to click
07:44<@jchun>jfaiueka - Yes, we can enable "click to migrate." Just ticket in and we'll get that done.
07:44<jfaiueka>jfaiueka - thanks i will do that
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07:45<komail>Hi
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07:45<komail>i would like to know if these rates include server management
07:45<@jchun>GlennS : I'm not sure if anyone answered your question, but you will need to use APIv4 if you want to reboot a Linode into Rescue Mode.
07:46<GlennS>jchun: thanks
07:46<GlennS>I thought as much
07:46<@jchun>komail : Linode is primarily an infrastructure hosting provider, so our pricing is for a self-managed virtual server.
07:46<komail>managed services are what price ?
07:46<@jchun>If you need system administration services, you can contact our Professional Services team here for a quote: https://www.linode.com/professional-services
07:47<dwfreed>jchun: re rebooting into rescue mode, that's not really true, just APIv3 makes it hard
07:47<@jchun>Ah, is it undocumented? I couldn't find the endpoint back when I tried with APIv3.
07:48<dwfreed>jchun: you build the rescue config profile yourself, using the finnix kernel and disk IDs
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07:49<dwfreed>the easiest way to do that is to set up the rescue profile in the manager, and then use the config list method to get those IDs
07:49<@jchun>Ah, I didn't think of that. Good call. GlennS, looks like I was wrong.
07:50<dwfreed>granted APIv4 makes life a lot easier (though it isn't finished yet, so there are some pieces missing)
07:50<GlennS>oh interesting
07:50<@jchun>GlennS : Is there any reason you want to use v3 over v4? Personally I find v4 much, much better.
07:50<GlennS>just to give a bit of context, I am having a look at whether I can make Nixops work with Linode
07:50<GlennS>and the v4 api's Python library hasn't gotten into Nix yet
07:51<dwfreed>you should fix that! :)
07:51<GlennS>but maybe it is better to use the v4 api and I can finish off in a month or two when it has
07:52<GlennS>Well I will also take a look at it, but I would suspect they don't like to run whatever tool they have that scrapes PyPi too often
07:52<GlennS>anyway, seems like good advice, I will switch to v4
07:54<@jchun>Ah. I don't have too much experience with Nix. Is there any reason you can't just download it manually?
07:55<@armiller>GlennS: It would be really neato to have Nixops support for Linode. Glad to hear somebody is working on it
07:55<GlennS>armiller: don't hold your breath just yet, I'm pretty new at this bit
07:55<GlennS>but it would be useful to have for work, so I can spend a few days and see if I can get it working
07:58<@armiller>GlennS: There was an attempt a while back, but it didn't seem to get too far and it was before v4. If you run into any problems with the Linode bits of that, please open a ticket and we'll see what we can do to help
07:58<GlennS>np, thanks
07:58<GlennS>I had a look at the previous attempts and, as you say, there isn't really that much to them yet
08:00<GlennS>ah, I see why linode-api is not bundled in Nix: it is currently marked as 'pre-release'
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08:04<@jchun>GlennS : I'll see if that's intentional or if that just hasn't been updated.
08:06<dwfreed>it's presumably marked that way because the API itself is pre-release
08:06<@jchun>That's what I would think as well^
08:06<dwfreed>so things could change in breaking ways
08:06<dwfreed>(as they have several times already)
08:07<GlennS>I will find out on the other side whether there is a way to include a pre-release version in the Nixpkgs repo
08:07<@armiller>GlennS: The reason it's not bundled is more likely that nobody using Nix has really needed it yet, which makes sense with it being a pre-release
08:08<@armiller>GlennS: There shouldn't be any issues with pre-release software in NixPkgs as far as I know. Even if there are you could write a default.nix for a local install and PR it against the Linode repo
08:08<GlennS>either way, that's probably a job for me to look at tomorrow
08:09<GlennS>first bit is a standalone script I think
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09:26<Kniaz>hi. in my debian linode i notice a lot of messages in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages that UFW keeps blocking so many different IP addresses
09:27<Kniaz>I was wondering if there is some kind of automated tool which would email the provider with abuse information
09:28<Zimsky>you'll probably be marked as spam yourself if you're sending that many abuse reports
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10:25<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Problem Glish GUI access to desktop <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14983&p=74075#p74075>
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10:55<HoopyCat>Eugene: it's a nice fleece blanket, $22ish on the amz. i've got a few of them, but just tossed this one in cuz i had room in the bag. i shoulda just said "meh, i'll wash it myself" but lazy
10:55<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • stat=Deferred: Connection refused by debian.myMainDomain.com. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15021&p=74119#p74119>
10:55<Zimsky>washing things takes effort
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11:21<BigKahuna>Hi there Im looking forward on finishing the server migration , Im currently finished on LAMP, and virtual host configuration... I found an alternative to some issues but ran into some others regarding "suhosin"
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11:54<zifnab>anything weird going on in fremont this morning
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11:56<FluffyFoxeh>it's california, so probably
11:56<zifnab>ha
11:56<zifnab>*probably* application side then
11:58<zifnab>yup, appliation side, meh
11:58<zifnab>not my dog
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12:04<Kniaz>any idea why google thinks that I am in united arab nations when I am connected to my VPN server which is in Newark NJ?
12:04<Kniaz>using openvpn
12:05<Kniaz>whatismyip.com shows linode ip
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12:07<zifnab>haha
12:07<zifnab>i'd assume whoever had the IP last time was and they somehow correlated it to an account or something
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12:21<Kniaz>that's no good
12:21<Kniaz>i had this IP for years
12:22<Kniaz>should I open a ticket with Linode?
12:22<HoopyCat>you should probably open a ticket with google, since they're the ones attempting to ascribe locations to IP addresses
12:38<dwfreed>There's nothing Linode can do about it
12:41<Woet>why does it matter where google thinks you are?
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12:44<Kniaz>HoopyCat: i tried googling for opening a support case, but couldn't find out. any idea where to create the ticket which you are talking about?
12:45<HoopyCat>Kniaz: what google product are you using that's reporting the incorrect location?
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12:48<@tduff>https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip
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12:52<Kniaz>HoopyCat: chrome and opera web browsers
12:53<Kniaz>tduff: thanks
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12:58<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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14:29<lulu>hula joiugo konima tataeas linode rojis
14:30<Woet>yes, definitely
14:30<lulu>tahu hokiri, tataeas
14:31<Woet>what part of the channel topic made you think we speak Filipino?
14:31<Woet>or Indonesian
14:31<Woet>or whatever you're trying to speak
14:31<lulu>Actually, those are just random words
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14:32<lulu>I have a doubt about promo code
14:32<lulu>Can we apply them after signup
14:32<Woet>google translate said it was filipino after corrections
14:32<Woet>and the second one was indonesian
14:32<Woet>oh well
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14:32<linbot>all hail mcintosh o/
14:32<Woet>no thanks
14:32<lulu>I swear, i just typed them randomly
14:32<Woet>rip
14:33<@wblew>cheese computers hats marker
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14:34<lulu>Why no one answering
14:35<lulu>I am a poor student, just want to launch my cloud server for project. Can i apply promo code after sign up
14:35<@sjacobs>lulu: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
14:36<@sjacobs>there is a promo code at the top.
14:36<@sjacobs>if you already signed up, open a support ticket and we'll add it for you.
14:36<@wblew>lulu: open a support ticket if you forgot, I'm sure they will be able to help you out!
14:37<@wblew>lulu: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/support#contacting-linode-support
14:37<lulu>ok thanks, btw i am not poor
14:37<arlen>ok
14:37<lulu>sjacobs god bless you
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14:38<lulu>OK one more question
14:38<lulu>Can i install vestacp on linode
14:38<arlen>yes
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14:38<lulu>can i follow the digitalocean guide
14:39<arlen>probably
14:39<@sjacobs>i haven't seen it, but it should be similar.
14:39<@sjacobs>https://github.com/serghey-rodin/vesta#how-to-install-2-step
14:39<@sjacobs>looks easy enough.
14:39<Woet>ew control panels
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17:15<apus>The test file download speed between Montrel, QC and US East is around 3MB/s. Between Montreal, QC and London it is only 400 KB/s. Doesn't look right to me. Is it normal?
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17:16<CodeMouse92__>Can anyone shed light on why DNS isn't propegating? I changed things at 13:48:26 Pacific, and it's now 14:16. Default TTL. That's definitely longer than the quarter-hour stated on the DNS Manager.
17:16<Woet>CodeMouse92__: whats the hostname?
17:16<CodeMouse92__>Ah, as we speak, it propegated.
17:16<CodeMouse92__>Weirdness
17:17<Woet>theres many layers of caching
17:17<Woet>at your ISP, your OS, your browser
17:17<Woet>TTL is not absolute
17:17<CodeMouse92__>Yeah
17:17<Woet>you can use https://www.whatsmydns.net/ to check whether its you or not
17:18<CodeMouse92__>Woet: It's propegated in general, but not on my compy yet. I'll hack it with /etc/hosts for the moment. Thanks
17:18<millisa>apus: I'm getting 20MB/s from the neward speedtest file
17:18<millisa>er, newark...
17:19<apus>from newark to where?
17:19<millisa>texas
17:19<apus>It's around the corner :-)
17:19<millisa>nothing is around the corner...
17:20<apus>comparing to transatlantic Canada - Germany it is much closer.
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17:21<millisa>i'm getting 10MB/s to the frankfurt speedtest then...
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17:28<apus>milissa: that's a very good speed! It's probably my route to Frankfurt. Thank you for your help!
17:28<apus>millisa (Sorry for misspelling)
17:29<millisa>sure thing; if you still see odd slowness, you probably want to start with an mtr to see if there's anything odd between you and the speedtest systems
17:32<apus>Yes. Thanks again.
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18:09<Jair>Hi guys
18:09<Jair>Here on Linode, there is any server that is ready for Docker?
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18:10<arlen>you can install docker, yes
18:12<Jair>got it
18:12<Jair>thank you
18:12<Peng>Linode provides CoreOS, if you want.
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19:10<dangerORclose>I have a request to update this tutorial: https://www.linode.com/docs/game-servers/multicraft-on-debian#installing-multicraft
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20:19<zifnab>whats the max amount i can preload on a linode account
20:19<zifnab>is there one?
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20:32<dwfreed>zifnab: not really
20:32<dwfreed>zifnab: you're probably more limited by your source of funds
20:33<zifnab>dwfreed: was looking at...5 years at 100/mo?
20:33<zifnab>like 6k
20:34<zifnab>and yeah, i'm sure people spend that a month
20:34<Woet>zifnab: you unlock an easter egg when you have 100k in your account
20:34<zifnab>lol
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20:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • memory allocation for LEMP wordpress 1GB linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15018&p=74120#p74120>
20:54<Peng>If you have $100 million, it's a Fabergé egg.
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23:28<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • nike roshe run sale <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15023&p=74122#p74122> || Feature Request/Bug Report • adidas superstar 80s city series pas cher <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15022&p=74121#p74121>
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23:39<Maine>I was given a new IP for migrating due to the IP block switch... once I rebooted my Linode, "iface eth0 inet dhcp" only picks up the new IP but not the old IP (which should still be associated).
23:41<arlen>!static
23:41<linbot>DHCP will only provide one IP to a Linode; when using more than one IP address (including private), a static configuration must be used: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration/
23:42<Maine>So I've tried that as well, but it appears that the original IP still doesn't work - only the new one
23:45<Maine>It's setting up the new IP as eth0, adding an entry for eth0:1 for old IP, but not bringing it up on reboot
23:47<arlen>set both to eth0
23:48<Maine>hm... edited the generated config and swapped the order and things appear to be working now
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