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04:10<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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04:30<WANT_HOSTING>ANY BODY HERE FOR HELP
04:30<WANT_HOSTING>I WANT TO BUY HOSTING PLAN
04:30<Ikaros>Mind not speaking in all caps, thank you
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04:36<Eliz>lol
04:37<Eliz>!eugenekay
04:37<linbot>http://i.imgur.com/wPvtNDk.png
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05:58<rsdehart>That's good value
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07:35<SneakyBat>hi
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07:56<pratik>vnc full desktop is not working i have done all the steps which are described in documentation but still i get the terminal only when i login with vnc viewer or windows remote desktop control
07:57<Woet>what do you need a desktop for?
07:57<pratik>is anyone have idea about what should i need to change ?
08:01<pratik>i am new to ubuntu and i am not able to things handle with only command it tooks time..
08:02<Woet>so why dont you use this opportunity to learn?
08:02<Woet>a desktop isn't going to help you much in a server scenario.
08:03<pratik>i dont have enough time to learn right now, i want to things done now
08:04<Woet>then hire a sysadmin
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08:05<Woet>you're welcome
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08:36<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode REST API (v4) - Early Access <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14885&p=74146#p74146>
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09:15<dzho>that exchange is perhaps the most #linode thing ever
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10:16<Zimsky>happens often enough
10:30<davidebeatrici>Is the writing sample to become a Linode Community Contributor needed also if a guide of mine has been published in the past?
10:31<davidebeatrici>https://linode.com/docs/game-servers/install-black-mesa-on-debian-or-ubuntu
10:33<dzho>well, it's a guide for the article, not a guide for the person, right?
10:37<davidebeatrici>What do you mean?
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10:42<dzho>oh, sorry, I took that as "following an existing writing sample" not "producing a writing sample for evaluation"
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10:43<davidebeatrici>No problem :)
10:43<dzho>but now I'm wondering--is there a reason you would think they'd exclude that as a suitable writing sample?
10:44<davidebeatrici>No, I don't
10:45<davidebeatrici>I compiled the form about one week ago with the link to my guide on Linode, just to be sure, but I didn't receive a response yet
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10:52<Ambitions>Hello
10:52<Ambitions>I am trying to install nginx, but the homepage is not running
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10:54<Woet>the homepage isn't supposed to be running
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10:54<Woet>it should just stay in place
10:55<Ambitions>Woet LoL
10:55<Woet>Ambitions: Dota
10:55<Woet>but when you can more accurately describe your issue, maybe we can help out
10:57<Ambitions>I don't know what is my issue to describe it, I installed nginx then installed ssl certificates, then checked nginx.conf for errors and then restarted the nginx service
10:57<Ambitions>and it takes forever to load the web page
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11:08<@sjacobs>davidebeatrici: i just let the docs team know that you are waiting for a response. i'm told they are going to be reviewing submissions and responding later today.
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11:09<Zimsky>logs logs logs
11:09<Zimsky>why does nobody read their logs
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11:14<davidebeatrici>S
11:14<Ambitions>Zimsky, excuse me I am a newbie, I trid to read logs but nothing useful
11:15<davidebeatrici>sjacobs: Nice, thank you very much! :)
11:15<davidebeatrici>Please ignore the "S" above, I accidentally sent it when writing your name on mobile
11:16<@sjacobs>ignored. and you are welcome.
11:17<davidebeatrici>Thank you again :)
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11:22<Ambitions>I removed the ssl code and nothing changed
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11:25<zifnab>one more day of vacation
11:29<MajObviousman>zifnab: commit a major crime and then you get vacation for several years
11:30<synfinatic>free room and board!
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11:30<synfinatic>even better then a bed & breakfast since you also get dinner
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11:39<zifnab>I mean, maybe not
11:40<zifnab>They won't pay me six figures or let me go to hawaii
11:40<zifnab>Which I haven't done but I'm planning to in January
11:40<synfinatic>which island?
11:40<synfinatic>diving?
11:41<zifnab>I don't know yet.
11:41<zifnab>I've gotten as far as "make sure I have a few days available in January"
11:41<zifnab>Also, today's insane startup idea
11:42<zifnab>Reusable trash bags
11:42<synfinatic>hmmmm... I probably won't be your angel investor for that one :)
11:42<zifnab>Because environmentalists are insane and I keep getting yelled at at the local grocery store for not bringing reusable bags.
11:42<zifnab>Not kidding. There's an angry environmentalist every time I show up.
11:43<synfinatic>yeah, they charge us $0.10/ea if we don't bring our own
11:43<zifnab>Same here. Plastic isn't allowed either.
11:43<synfinatic>lol. remember when plastic was good and paper was bad?
11:43<zifnab>I need something to put my recycling in
11:43<synfinatic>save the trees!
11:44<zifnab>The dreams of the 90s are alive in Portland
11:44<zifnab>Just ask dcraig
11:44<zifnab>I've also apparently turned into an old person. I had to buy one of those rubber mats for my tub.
11:45<zifnab>Somehow it's smooth enough that when you add a little soap there is no traction at all
11:46<MajObviousman>zifnab: turned into? Implying that you somehow were not before an old person
11:46<zifnab>Ha. 27.
11:46<zifnab>Not old.
11:47<dwfreed>older than me
11:47<zifnab>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dKPAF6Vb/image-20170724_084604.jpg
11:47<zifnab>Need a better solution than rhatv
11:47<zifnab>That*
11:47<dwfreed>evolve into an octopus?
11:47<zifnab>New startup idea: spray-traction
11:48<zifnab>Spray paint style can (with CFCs!) full of waterproof traction material
11:50<zifnab>synfinatic: so afaik paper is easier to recycle if there's a recycling program. Small towns don't have recycling programs, so it's overall a better move to use plastic bags
11:50<zifnab>Seattle moved to paper only because wildlife and litter
11:50<zifnab>Seagulls are stupid and if there's a bit of food on the bag they'll eat them
11:50<synfinatic>well paper will decompose in our lifetime, where as plastic won't
11:51<synfinatic>as for seagulls, you won't hear me advocate for saving their lives. rats with wings basically
11:51<dwfreed>we use plastic shopping bags for trash can bags; we burn our trash, though, so...
11:51<zifnab>I'd rather they live than die on my balcony
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11:52<zifnab>My cat got a bird last week too
11:52<zifnab>It flew in the window. I don't like dead things b
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11:52<synfinatic>yeah, we keep our cats indoors... i'm sure one of them would spend all day hunting for gifts if we let him out
11:53<synfinatic>he already carries small pillows/cat toys around and drops them at our feet / on the bed
11:56<MajObviousman>awww, he thinks you're a terrible cat and is trying to mentor you
11:56<synfinatic>heh
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12:05<zifnab>She is also an indoor cat
12:06<zifnab>I was surprised. It flew in the window that didn't have a screen
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12:06<zifnab>I saw it, went to to chase it out
12:06<zifnab>And....the cat beat me to it
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12:06<synfinatic>cats are going to cat.
12:06<zifnab>Got a delicious snack before I chased her away too.
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12:07<Woet>Eugene taught her well
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12:10<TJ>Hey everyone. Just trying to make a change for a client in MySql, but can't seem to find anything related to it. Any ideas?
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12:11<Woet>TJ: your question is a bit vague
12:11<synfinatic>you'll probably need to phrase the question a bit more precise
12:11<Woet>"find anything related to it"...?
12:12<TJ>looking for anything cpanel, phpmyadmin
12:12<synfinatic>you've googled "phpmyadmin" and nothing was returned in the search results?
12:12<Woet>lol
12:12<Woet>TJ: connect with SSH, type "mysql". you're welcome.
12:13<TJ>oh SSH.......Alright thanks.
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12:24<jcanto>??
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12:25<Eugene>Neat. RHEL appears to have backported CAA support to BIND9.9.4
12:25<Eugene>Not that the version number means anything now
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12:30<scotti>you can still do CAA records in old versions of bind/powerdns
12:31<scotti>RFC 3597 syntax
12:31<Eugene>Yes, using the hax RFC3597 syntax. This is with the new, easy one. Just interesting that it worked.
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12:31<Eugene>Because according to the documentation it shouldn't
12:32<dwfreed>welcome to RH
12:33<dwfreed>RHEL6 may have said 2.6.32 for the kernel version, but it's a franken 4.x by now
12:34<Eugene>I'm not mad
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13:57<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Email logs and where to find them? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15020&p=74147#p74147>
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15:25<IC>General inquiry: Where are the linode servers physically located? (Country/state is sufficient)
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15:26<millisa>!speedtest
15:26<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
15:26<millisa>Those locations
15:26<IC>Thanks millisa! :)
15:28<IC>And can I select where I want my virtual server to be hosted?
15:28<millisa>yep
15:28<IC>Even better!
15:28<millisa>There's a drop down when you are provisioning your linode.
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15:29<millisa>There's a pic of what it looks like in this section: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started#sign-up (drop down is at the bottom)
15:31<IC>Excellent. You should take the rest of the day off. You've done more than your share! :)
15:31<millisa>"I wasn't even supposed to be here today!"
15:32<IC>Well I'm grateful that you were!
15:32<dwfreed>!point millisa
15:32<linbot>dwfreed: Access denied.
15:32<dwfreed>mcintosh: you suck
15:32<millisa>linbot has been point hoarding for more than a week.
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15:39<@mcintosh>!point dwfreed
15:39<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to dwfreed. (21) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 6)
15:40<dwfreed>!point millisa
15:40<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to millisa. (27) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7)
15:40<millisa>hooray!
15:40<dwfreed>!top5
15:40<linbot>dwfreed: 1. millisa (27) 2. eugene (26) 3. dwfreed (21) 4. peng (17) 5. mcintosh (10)
15:40<arlen>!point Eugene
15:40<linbot>arlen: Point given to eugene. (27) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 7)
15:41<arlen>sudden death!
15:41<@jalter>It's true.
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15:43<arlen>Sunday Sunday Sunday! who will win the battle of points. tickets are just 10 bucks!
15:43<@jalter>!point arlen
15:43<linbot>jalter: Point given to arlen. (8)
15:52<Eugene>!lick millisa
15:52<linbot>Eugene: Point given to millisa. (28) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7)
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16:23<davidebeatrici>sjacobs: I received a response :)
16:29<relidy>Anyone know if all Dallas Linodes will eventually be pushed over to the new DC? So far I've only gotten notifications about 3 of mine.
16:30<Eugene>If history is anything to go by, yes, they will. I would plan to migrate ahead of that time
16:30<dzho>is it a move? I thought it was an expansion? (not that I've been paying a lot of attention, mind.)
16:30<MajObviousman>it's both
16:30<dzho>oooooh, bigger "house"
16:31<relidy>I've been notified that 3 of mine are being moved. Two of them are still Xen, and they're being forced to go KVM at the same time. That's not cool.
16:31<Eugene>File a ticket about it
16:32<relidy>Honestly, it's a good excuse to give the bosses. We've needed to do something about them for a long time, but I could have used a little more time.
16:32<Eugene>I am frankly amazed that Linode is continuing to provide Xen /at all/. I would have given a grace period to tell people to get on with it, but how many years is this now
16:32<Peng>I got pushed from Xen to KVM during the last Xen security update.
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16:33<Peng>I was implicitly moved to Dallas 2 as part of that, but i don't think it was even mentioned. (It wasn't really relevant.)
16:34<relidy>Does the Manager report which DC it's in (like saying Dallas 2)?
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16:35<Peng>Not really. The hosts seem to have a different naming scheme, but i don't think that's been officially stated.
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16:35<Peng>dallas1234 vs. h1234-rin1 or something like that.
16:35<Peng>I'm guessing that's not just a coincidence.
16:36<relidy>!point Peng
16:36<linbot>relidy: Point given to peng. (18)
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16:36<Eugene>I have never seen the second naming scheme. How legacy is that?
16:36<millisa>been at least a few weeks that it started showing up
16:36<Eugene>Oh its new?
16:37<millisa>i first saw it on 7/3
16:37<Eugene>Neat.
16:37<Eugene>I have some new data points to addd to a spreadsheet
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16:42<dwfreed>it's been the new scheme for a while
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16:45<Peng>How long is a piece of string?
16:46<Eugene>The one in my pocket is about 1.5m
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17:18<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14906&p=74148#p74148>
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18:50<zifnab>sim cards should really include a sim remover
18:51<zifnab>have it as another thing that pops out of the card
18:53<dwfreed>project fi sends a paperclip with their sim cards
18:53<dwfreed>it's a super-thin one, designed for the eject hole
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19:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • how can I use nodebalancer for mysql\redis balancing? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15029&p=74150#p74150>
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19:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • how can I use nodebalancer for mysql\redis balancing? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15029&p=74151#p74151>
19:58<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Bug: Credit card in Android app issue <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14942&p=74154#p74154> || General Discussion • how can I use nodebalancer for mysql\redis balancing? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15029&p=74153#p74153> || Web Servers and Web App Development • NodeBalancer + Apache + SSL + Wordpress -- site not rendering completely <https://forum.linode.com/viewtop
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20:08<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • Linode tends to hide problems to customers. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10943&p=74155#p74155>
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21:09<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Do you people use StackScripts? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15027&p=74156#p74156>
21:10<Woet>what do you mean, you people?
21:10<dwfreed>secretly racist forum post
21:10<millisa>http://i.imgur.com/VgZyEgc.gif
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21:32<hays>should i be changing the "configuration profile" of a running linode when i upgrade teh distro
21:32<hays>the
21:33<hays>"Debian 6 Disk Image" seems so quaint
21:34<dwfreed>you can edit the name if you want, but it's just for display purposes
21:34<hays>or "Debian 6 Profile" Unless its the same no matter what im running
21:35<hays>ok i suspected that but wanted to verify there weren't tweaks made based on what OS was running
21:40<MrPPS>Yeah, you don't really need to change much unless the OS handles things drastically differently
21:40<MrPPS>which would more be akin to switching distro's entirely
21:41<hays>yeah alots changed since debian 6
21:41<Eugene>!alot
21:41<linbot>http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html | http://e-cabi.net/alot.jpg
21:42<dwfreed>RIP e-cabi.net
21:43<dwfreed>Linode's helpers (Distro helper, Network helper, etc) don't depend on the name of the config profile or disk image at all
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21:49<hays>hmm.. my dns seems to be messed up.
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21:49<hays>nameserver 127.0.0.1
21:49<hays>search members.linode.com
21:50<hays>dig seems to work, but if i ping www.google.com the hostname look up fails
21:52<Peng>O_o
21:53<hays>looks like im running dnsmasq
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22:05<hays>is this what /etc/network/interfaces should look like? https://bpaste.net/show/7b7e128d3417
22:05<hays>those name servers are hardcoded and that seems wrong
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22:13<SleePy>The first IP is registered to linode in whois, the second two don't show up for me as registered to them
22:15<Peng>FCrDNS matches for all IPs.
22:15<SleePy>Never mind, used a different server to run the whois and it shows Linode is on all of those
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22:17<Peng>Ayy. ARIN assigned the IPs to Linode's Newark ISP, the ISP assigned them to Linode.
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22:17<Peng>Linode might wanna renumber them someday, but they're Linode IPs for now. :P
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22:18<Peng>DNSMasq doesn't need all of your DNS servers to work. Though DNS servers that lied would be bad.
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