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01:58<at007>what is cisco nac?
01:59<millisa>network admission control?
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02:03<millisa>woo. got it on first try. what'd I win?
02:03<at007>you win
02:06<at007>where are U from?
02:07<millisa>Earth. An obscure body in the S-K System.
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02:08<at007>take it easy girl
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04:38<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Bug: Credit card in Android app issue <>
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05:06<Cromulent>hmm I have a database connection error on one of my wordpress sites but I've forgotten to find out which server the database is associated with to login to it on MySQL - I can show databases and the database is there and I can list the tables but Wordpress just can't connect for some reason
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05:08<Cromulent>I think I changed the host that the MySQL database uses but I can't for the life of me remember how to see what it is so I can change the wp_config.php file to match
05:14<Cromulent>ah show grants
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07:49<_ctor>is anyone from linode staffers available for a few questions?
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07:51<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
07:51<Woet>_ctor: ^
07:53<_ctor>Woet: I'd rather not ask on a public channel
07:53<Woet>or call even
07:54<_ctor>ok, will do, thanks for the info Woet
07:54<Woet>no worries
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09:56<castro>hi sir
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09:57<castro>i have pointed my domain with linode server, but it's not working throwing connection time out
09:58<ponas>works for me, though it redirects to the IP
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09:58<ponas>so you'll probably need to wait for DNS to propagate + remove the redirect
09:59<castro>then why for me its not working & not even redirection happening
09:59<ponas>cached DNS records
09:59<ponas>what does resolve to for you?
10:00<nameboost>got this page
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10:03<v0lksman>are any of my linode backups stored off site?
10:03<millisa> first line is relevant
10:03<nameboost> can e-mail
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10:04<v0lksman>millisa: ahh...I read the marketing stuff on not the docs...didn't have that one line.. :)
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10:23<masa>i want to know if this server alow smtp use in spam
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10:24<nameboost>what u mean spam?
10:24<millisa>You want to send spam?
10:24<millisa>Fuck off
10:24<masa>this my work
10:24<masa>why that
10:24<masa>it earn more money
10:24<masa>and also i dont steal poor man
10:25<masa>hhh we can work together
10:25<masa>i give u 60 %
10:26<masa>we take 10 000 $ in month
10:26<nameboost>any op here?
10:28<masa>millisa> u help yes or not ?
10:28<millisa>Sure, I'll help.
10:28<masa>mmm coool
10:28<masa>u have contact facebook
10:28<_ctor>please don't feed the trolls.....
10:28<masa>or sktpe
10:28<masa>skype *
10:29<masa>contact me here
10:33<dwfreed>masa: go away
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11:06<taj>linode is providing any free control panel for use
11:07<dwfreed>not the kind you're thinking of, I don't think
11:07<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: Or try a free panel like Webmin: Or just use the command line:
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11:14<taj>i read one of the reviews that linode is providing cpanel for free
11:14<taj>thats why i raised this question
11:14<dwfreed>Linode has the Linode Manager, but that's not cPanel
11:15<dwfreed>the Linode Manager doesn't do most of what cPanel does
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11:16<taj>pls cehck the 10 th cloud provider Linode and its decription, go through last paragraph
11:17<@jchun>taj: That's referring to our Linode Managed service.
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11:17<@jchun>You can read about that here:
11:17<dwfreed>Linode has no control over what third parties say
11:17<@jchun>It looks like the third party didn't quite understand our offerings.
11:18<taj>oh i see
11:18<taj>can you tell me how the backup works and the palns offering
11:19<taj>i saw $2.50/mo 2 GB
11:19<taj>this is RAM? and what about speed?
11:20<@jchun>You can view a list of our pricing here:
11:20<@jchun>I believe the pricing you saw was $2.50/mo to enable our Backups Service for a Linode 2GB.
11:20<taj>not clear enough
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11:21<@jchun>Could you clarify which part of the pricing is confusing? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
11:22<nameboost>with linode can use ipv6?
11:22<taj>i realised something, i will tell you, for example i have Linode Server 4GB-20 $, so if i enable backup total will be 25$ monthly correct/?
11:22<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
11:22<dwfreed>taj: yes
11:23<taj>ok how many backups monthly, and its duration?
11:23<taj>how can we download it as well
11:24<millisa>jcanto's link a few moments ago has that info; linked right to the section:
11:25<nameboost>for a current linode with a current ip possible to change rdns?
11:25<millisa>nameboost: here's how:
11:26<nameboost>for a lamp server is enought 2gb ram what think millisa ?
11:27<millisa>can be. depends what you are doing with it.
11:27<nameboost>yes wordpress
11:27<millisa>and if you are wrong, it's easy to resize them
11:27<nameboost>yes is true
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11:27<nameboost>millisa: you a helper here or something?
11:27<millisa>just a customer.
11:28<nameboost>just ask okey
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11:32<nameboost>millisa: ur chat on site is node js based :)?
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11:35<millisa>my site?
11:35<millisa>ah. that. i dont remember. it should be broken and ancient
11:36<nameboost>hmm i also try node js chat app things
11:36<millisa>it's unlikely to be nodejs. whatevers up there is more than 10 years old. m aybe 15.
11:37<nameboost>yes i see domain age :>
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11:48<taj>i have a Centos server and i wold like to install a freecontrol panel, which one is btter and simple to use?
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11:55<Woet>taj: none - use SSH
11:56<nameboost>taj if u want vps use less resources then really ssh
11:56<nameboost>command line powa
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12:14<taj>hows is vestcap to manage an ecommerce website?
12:15<nameboost>vestacp is crappy
12:15<nameboost>is ny opinion
12:15<taj>which one seems to be good, free controlpanel
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12:15<taj>i have centos server
12:16<nameboost>is free and i think clean
12:16<nameboost>or zpanel that is not much clean but work
12:17<nameboost>or centos web panel but that also crappy
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12:17<react>taj: pick one
12:17<taj>i am currently using vestacp
12:18<react>is that a question?
12:19<taj>why you mentioned crapp
12:19<taj>thos CP will crash or what?
12:19<nameboost>ate my VPS
12:19<nameboost>ram, cpu
12:19<react>taj: click the wikipedia link, do some research, pick one that suits your requirements; no spoon-feeding here good sir
12:20<nameboost>pick one
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12:21<taj>thanks FYI
12:22<jcanto>react: thanks!!
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12:22<react>jcanto: for?
12:22<jcanto>no spoon-feeding here good sir
12:22<react>i'm still confused
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12:24<react>you ever get your stuff optimized Cromulent
12:25<Cromulent>I did remove a few websites that weren't being used any more - at the moment I'm just running my server for a little bit so MySQLTuner has better stats to use
12:25<Cromulent>and someone told me about atop which sounds cool
12:27<react>sounds like New Relic is right up your alley, go sign up
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12:30<Cromulent>react: bookmarked so I can check it out later
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12:31<react>Cromulent: the struggle with more low-level utilities (atop, mysqltuner, etc) is ensuring you're interpreting the data appropriately, it can be difficult for the uninitiated, and most of the time you don't get the complete picture
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12:33<jcanto>what about monit??
12:33<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:34<Cromulent>at the moment I'm more interested in trying to teach myself android development
12:35<react>jcanto: monit pales in comparison to New Relic's capabilities, you should check it out
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12:36<jcanto>thanks, I will
12:37<react>think Longview, but on mega super MLB steroids with the ability to hook deeply into various application user-land run-time environments
12:39<react>I hope Linode is making investments on the Longview front, to build on the foundation they've built
12:39*react summons the spirit of caker
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12:45<Cromulent>I miss the days when you could just open a text editor and start programming - IDEs have so many options these days that it takes awhile just to learn your way around them
12:45<synfinatic>don't program in Java
12:45<synfinatic>or i guess GUI's
12:49<Cromulent>alas all the android tutorials use android studio
12:49<Cromulent>well the one on the official site does anyway
12:49<Eugene>In fairness, I have never been able to make an IDE do anything useful. Eclipse has always been confusing
12:49<Eugene>vim still works great. Maybe nothing has changed?
12:49<synfinatic>IntelliJ is nice if you're doing java
12:50<synfinatic>but for everything else there's vim. but I don't do GUI's or stuff like that
12:50<synfinatic>i still laugh everytime I see the "Use less resources" option in IntelliJ though
12:50<synfinatic>such a pig
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13:21<millisa>somehow I missed this doc page after the announcement:
13:21<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues -, Linode Manager and Linode API <>
13:23<millisa>and did it officially come out of beta? (I am able to create volumes on an account that I know didn't request to participate)
13:26<@mcintosh>millisa: not out of beta, but it is visible without specifically requesting it now
13:27<react>mcintosh: is the expectation that we scale IOPS by scaling capacity (like other vendor block storage services)
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13:31<grawity>is it still newark-only though?
13:31<millisa>looks like it
13:32<@mcintosh>grawity: yes
13:32<@mcintosh>react: right now, that is not an expectation (i would not rule out the possibility that it could change at some point in the future, but no plans)
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13:38<react>mcintosh: are all vm's created equal regarding network egress inside the linode dc; for instance, do higher vCPU count vm's have higher egress caps; what im getting at is, would consumers of the block storage need to adjust their instance dimensions to get full IO performance
13:40<dwfreed>everybody gets the same IO performance
13:40<dwfreed>which is: whatever's available
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13:52<Eugene>react - I have not tested it myself, but I understand that you can get "up to 40Gbit" performance out of striped Block-storage volumes. The cap seems to be the Host's network performance
13:54<@mcintosh>react: larger linodes have higher network out caps but that does not influence block storage performance
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14:26<ESphynx>hi guys... how do I mount a new disk that I added to my Ubuntu node
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14:27<Eugene>Generally speaking, you need to add an entry to /etc/fstab for it; `mount -a` to auto-mount, or reboot
14:27<Eugene>Google should have several million results for "ubuntu add disk to fstab"
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14:27<ESphynx>Eugene: right I"m just trying to figure out what device it's on... I figured it'd be sdc but I tried doing a mknod and it's telling me wrong block device type
14:28<millisa>is it one of the blockstore devices or is it from your linode's storage?
14:28<Eugene>You should not need to run mknod
14:28<ESphynx>Eugene: I only had sda and sdb otherwise
14:28<Eugene>You do need to reboot after editing the Configuration Profile before the new disk will appear
14:28<ESphynx>ahh... configuration profile! I see it.
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14:28<ESphynx>that's what I could not find. thank you.
14:29<Eugene>Sometimes things are too obvious, heh
14:29<ESphynx>Eugene: well that was not obvious to me at all :P
14:30<ESphynx>I was going through all pages there but never found that Configuration Profile thing :P
14:31<ESphynx>I guess I thought I was 'in' the configuration profile already ;) never occurred to me to click that Edit there... I don't think this is obvious at all.
14:31<Eugene>Shrug. Try the new dashboard; I hear they like user feedback
14:32<ESphynx>right, pointless to give feedback on the old thing :P
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14:41<react>mcintosh: fyi, the new dashboard isn't respecting the IP whitelist I've set (in fact I can't find the settings anywhere), still is though
14:42<dwfreed>that's because the new manager is just using the API
14:42<dwfreed>(APIv4, not v3, v3 being
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14:43<dwfreed>also, IP whitelisting really doesn't make sense with modern 2fa capabilities
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14:55<Eugene>2FA is not modern. -_-
14:56<Eugene>A username and password is 2fa, depending upon how closely you read the implementation specifics
14:57<synfinatic>i think his point is not that 2fa is modern, but that there are modern 2fa solutions
14:58<dwfreed>synfinatic: Eugene is just a troll
14:59<Eugene>I even make it obvious and people still fall for it
15:00<synfinatic>meh. whatevs
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15:12<Gian_mejia>Hello i am gian mejia i need help my count is bloked
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15:14<Gian_mejia>My email is y mi user giannew but was bloked by you i dont undertand why do it
15:14<nameboost>what message u got?
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15:15<Gian_mejia>I receibed it
15:15<Gian_mejia>-------------------------------------------------- Hello, After review of your account we have determined that we are unable to extend our hosting services to you. Any further signup attempts by you will be cancelled as fraudulent. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, Blake Martin Linode Support Team
15:17<Gian_mejia>Please help me i never do something fraudulent blake martin have one mistake
15:18<nameboost>what you make in last 7 days with vps?
15:18<Gian_mejia>Nothing i only used for opengts tracker
15:19<nameboost>when you got above message?
15:19<nameboost>when locked ur account?
15:20<Gian_mejia>Yesterday i intent create one new count but i cant do it then i intent again
15:20<nameboost>you mean account?
15:21<Gian_mejia>Then i open one ticket on my count giannew for say to you what is happent with it
15:21<Gian_mejia>Yes account
15:21<Ikaros>Ok look if they said they can't host you, they can't host you, and there was very likely a good reason for it. That's not changing if that's what they decided, so you should move on.
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15:22<Ikaros>I fail to see what's so difficult to understand about that email.
15:23<Ikaros>Nobody here's going to be able to help you.
15:24<Gian_mejia>They dont undertand why do it
15:25*Ikaros shakes his head in disappointment and walks off
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16:55<derpingit>hi guys
16:56<derpingit>anyone here use screenconnect on their box?
16:56<arlen>not I
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17:02<Eugene>Never heard of it. It looks very similar to SimpleHelp, which I use+like at $DAYJOB
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17:05<humanbean>anyone know how to root out a botnet perchance? probably the wrong community
17:05<humanbean>my linode just got blacklisted because one of my users has a botnet, but i cant figure out which
17:05<Eugene>IRC is a verry command C&C protocol
17:07<MajObviousman>IRC is a verry lots of things
17:08<MajObviousman>for instance, chatting with other people from across the world. In 1990.
17:09<Eugene>Of course, but if you haven't installed irssi on a system it sure is suspicious to see TCP:6667 connections going ;-)
17:09<Eugene>At the very least it is something easy to look for to identify the bad user. lsof -i + grep, 5 seconds
17:16<millisa>oxymoron. there are no good users.
17:17<MajObviousman>they're good users, mullisa
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17:17<millisa>no no. they range from just bad, through terrible, and on into disgusting.
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17:30<ara>does linode allow you register dns records? like reverse PTR's ?
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17:32<millisa>someday they'll find out
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18:22<derpingit>hi guys
18:23<derpingit>how do i know which ports i can use on my linode box ?
18:23<derpingit>to access from the outside
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18:26<Cromulent>derpingit: you can use whatever ports you like
18:28<Ikaros>I'm sorta amazed at the number of people that show up at a provider like Linode and have to ask that question. Perhaps these are the people that are coming off things like shared hosting and other restricted environments?
18:29<Ikaros>I digress though. Use any ports you want. 1-65535! :P
18:30<derpingit>relax .. i'm a newbie, cant apologize for that. i'm asking because i've created the ufw exeption and i still can't access the service from outside
18:30<arlen>that's Ikaros being relaxed
18:31<Peng>derpingit: What's the service? What's happening? What's your hostname? What are the firewall rules?
18:33<derpingit>is probably beyond the scop of this chat, but i'll give a bit of background. i have a box running screenconnect (uses mono i think) that i want to use a suddomain ( .. i configured nginx's server blocks to point to that service, and the service itself is listening on that port. however, i cannot get the redirect to work. i'm using piwershell to ping the port from my machine but it keeps coming up as failed
18:34<derpingit> works, so i know nginx is up..
18:34<arlen>paste the firewall rules, nginx server block, and actual domain
18:34<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
18:35<derpingit>ok one sec
18:35<Woet>derpingit: domains are not private info
18:35<Woet>so when Peng asked "what's your hostname?", he didn't mean and
18:36<derpingit>serverblock here:
18:37<Woet>derpingit: you opened port 443?
18:39<derpingit>firewall here:
18:40<derpingit>i'm typing http:// ... on my browser, not https:// . actually, i've tried both do i need to open 443?
18:41<derpingit>ok lemme try
18:42<derpingit>hell YEAA
18:43<arlen>https uses 443
18:43<arlen>and you were redirecting to https
18:43<Ikaros><arlen> that's Ikaros being relaxed <- It's hard to know precisely when I'm relaxed, actually, because IRC. ;)
18:44<arlen>I was just going by the stories
18:44<Peng>Ikaros: Well, you have caps lock off
18:44<Ikaros>derpingit: I meant nothing by that earlier, btw. I just see that particular question a lot is all.
18:45<derpingit>thank you all
18:45<derpingit>i see my certificate loading up so i guess is all good
18:45<Eugene>Ikaros - its hard to know exactly who is the target demographic for Linode. I have used it for my "personal infrastructure" for years, but then again your typical user does not have needs measured in TB. I have also seen(and recommended) it used in the ENTERPRISE as a cheaper alternative to AWS etc. I think mostly it is just "hacker" people, who range in skill levels so widely that generalizations are silly
18:45<Ikaros>Peng would you prefer I have it on?
18:45<Eugene>Or, to answer your question, "yes"
18:46<Ikaros>I mean I'm not one to create a monologue of text in all-caps which would thereby be disruptive to the channel.
18:46<derpingit>i'm paying 10/mnt to host my main domain and this "service" (screenconnet) . not to bad for my particular scenario i think
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18:46<Eugene>I have definitely noticed an increase in support ticket response time(and confused people on IRC, plus spam) since the debut of the $10 and then $5 plans
18:46<Eugene>But that is not at all scientific and could just be normal growth patterns
18:46<Ikaros>Yes, Eugene, it's part of growth.
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18:47<derpingit>if you would be so kind, and because i know nothing about iptables and nginx blocks do you guys see anything particularly alarming from the logs i posted?
18:50<Ikaros>Hmm. Wonder why it permits SSH in on UDP...
18:50*Ikaros eyes that for a second
18:51<Eugene>derpingit - you may be interested in talking to a Linode Support person about their Managed service. I understand they can help with basic server setup like this
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19:00<arlen>that'd be more professional services than managed
19:01<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Increase image limit to 4GB <> || Web Servers and Web App Development • Testing a virtual hosted NGINX site <>
19:04<derpingit>Ikaros i didnt set the ssh udp fw rule. it must have been defaulted
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20:01<Zig>Ok, so I cloned 1 linode to another linode, swapped the ip addresses and now it doesn't work. any hints?
20:01<kyhwana>what do your logs say?
20:01<millisa>well and what is 'it' that isn't working?
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20:03<Zig>My new linode cannot get pinged from the internet :(
20:03<Zig>I tested this beforehand and it worked fine. Now I am in production mode, and linode is down. Its like something went wrong in that "Ip swap" process.
20:04<millisa>what does it show on the console ( )
20:04<Sophira>Zig: Try using Lish to connect to your Linode. Even if networking is down you'll still be able to log in via that.
20:04<kyhwana>If it's actually related to the swap, have you filed a support ticket?
20:04<Zig>yes I have... i can get in with Lish
20:04<nate>Zig: you didn't have your sshd and what not bound to the old IP by chance did you?
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20:08<Zig>nope. i am pinging the ipaddress that my new linode now has and it is not responding
20:08<kyhwana>can you actually ssh to it? what do the firewall rules look like?
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20:08<nate>Well that's not necessarily surprising, pretty sure most default firewall configurations will drop generic IMCP pings
20:09<Sophira>Zig: Glad you can log in via Lish. If you run "ip addr" on your Linode, it'll show which network interfaces are up and what IP addresses it has (look for lines beginning with " inet").
20:11<Sophira>(I'm assuming that the old cloned Linode would ping successfully?)
20:11<Zig>3: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP
20:11<Zig>it pinged fine when I tested it
20:12<millisa>in that eth0 section, does it show your ip?
20:12<Sophira>Zig: Does that eth0 interface have an "inet" line below it showing the IP address, and is it correct? (it'll start with something like 'inet', where is your Linode's IP address)
20:14<Zig>yes it is
20:14<Sophira>Okay. One more test - can your Linode access the Internet at all?
20:15<Sophira>Try "wget".
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20:16<Sophira>If that works, it sounds like it's probably an ICMP filtering issue. Most likely it would respond properly to actual servers, like SSH connections.
20:17<Zig>heeey... it started to work!
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20:18<Sophira>When you say that, what do you mean? It started pinging, or that the Internet connection is working?
20:18<Sophira>(Just curious.)
20:18<millisa>i'll bet step 10 would have worked for you:
20:18<Zig>i did not change anything... but pings are responding. i did reboot it twice....
20:19<millisa>the bit there in the blue box
20:19<Sophira>millisa: Ah yeah, that would make sense.
20:19<Zig>ahhhh! maaaybe
20:19<Zig>unless someone did it for me after i opened a ticket
20:20<Sophira>Nah, it's likely the router's ARP cache got updated automatically when you accessed the Internet from the Linode.
20:21<echoSMILE>after reading your post at blog/christmas-ddos-retrospective, my question is: for those costumers that went down, they could have done anything to prevent this kind of downtimes?
20:21<Sophira>(I imagine? I'm not entirely sure how ARP works precisely, but it seems like that would make sense, considering packets will have both the source MAC address and IP address in them)
20:25<Zig>yah... i should had read that blue box before i panicked i guess... the thing is I don't use Network Helper as I got a manual /etc/network/interfaces file
20:25<Zig>Network Helper gives me error upon boot... (very old Linux)
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20:31<Zig>Thanks for your help guys!
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20:36<Eugene>echoSMILE - not relying upon a single provider, like all things.
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20:46<echoSMILE>Eugene, I see.
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21:52<Rachid>Hello linode community
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21:52<MrPPS>hello Rachid
21:52<Rachid>please need hel
21:53<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
21:53<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
21:53<millisa>!point arlen
21:53<linbot>millisa: Point given to arlen. (9)
21:53<Rachid>i created an account with linode and i started deploy servers and i receive a email from support team that my account has been flagged to high risk
21:54<Rachid>and i send them th docs
21:54<Rachid>but they terminate my account
21:54<millisa>Weren't you on earlier?
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21:55<Rachid>any advice
21:55<arlen>what was the final email from them?
21:59<Rachid>Hi there, Thank you for providing these documents. While we appreciate your interest in using our platform for your business, we can no longer provide services for you ask that you seek another hosting platform in the future. Your account has been canceled and your $5.00 deposit has been refunded to you. Please allow 3-5 business days for the refund to return back to your card. Thank you for your understanding.
21:59<arlen>ok, so whats the issue?
21:59<Rachid>really i don't know
22:00<arlen>there's nothing you can do except find a new place to host with
22:00<Rachid>i liked working with this servers
22:01<arlen>oh well
22:02<Rachid>is there any methode to create another account
22:02<arlen>not with linode
22:02<arlen>you'll have to choose a different company
22:11<Rachid>give me suggestions please servers with hourly billing
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