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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-07-28

---Logopened Fri Jul 28 00:00:24 2017
---Daychanged Fri Jul 28 2017
00:00<arlen>never being billed
00:00<arlen>just picture a never-ending trail of zeros
00:01<arlen>if you continue to be billed, you aren't thinking hard enough
00:01<FluffyFoxeh>I'll try it, thanks
00:02<arlen>good luck. may you find success and never be billed again!
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00:06<xiarongwei>Hi
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00:06<millisa>greetings
00:06<xiarongwei>if anyone is there
00:07<xiarongwei>i have register my account(xiarongwei),but the platform tell me that my account is review
00:08<MrPPS>That is normal
00:08<xiarongwei>Could you tell my what happened and what can i do ?
00:08<MrPPS>Sometimes you are required to provide additional ID to help prevent fraud
00:08<MrPPS>Support will contact you if they need anything further from you. You just have to wait!
00:10<xiarongwei>OK,i don't know how long this process will continue?
00:12<MrPPS>Neither do we; sometimes it's short, sometimes it's longer. Once you've passed this process however, you'll never have to do so again
00:15<xiarongwei>Thank u,i have received the email that need me to provide some image of credit card
00:15<MrPPS>Fantastic, then you're almost done!
00:18<xiarongwei>Thank u,bye
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00:27<rsdehart>I wonder what further information could be provided when that process is initiated that would reduce the number of people coming in and asking that exact question
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00:37<millisa>Maybe a "No, really. Read this mail." up at the top of the mail.
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00:45<MrPPS>I had the same process, but I can't remember ever thinking to myself that it was unusual
00:45<MrPPS>or struggling to understand it
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02:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • CentOS vs Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15037&p=74176#p74176>
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04:18<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • CentOS vs Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15037&p=74177#p74177>
04:28<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • I'm trying to figure out why open SSH connections are disconnected <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15034&p=74178#p74178>
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04:38<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • CentOS vs Ubuntu <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15037&p=74179#p74179>
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05:28<sevosik>Is there a way to test any VPS from the Linodes offer?
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05:57<dwfreed>sevosik: no, but Linode offers a 7 day money back guarantee
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06:08<guramus>hi
06:08<arlen>hi
06:08<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • stat=Deferred: Connection refused by debian.myMainDomain.com. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15021&p=74181#p74181> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • Suddenly mail is stop working. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15036&p=74180#p74180>
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06:21<skch0812>hello
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06:25<skch0812>hi?
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06:25<skch0812>Web site can not login server cannot normal connection, linode account is
06:26<skch0812>skch0812
06:27<skch0812>Web site can not login server cannot normal connection, linode account is skch0812
06:30<skch0812>Artificial customer service make a phone call to ask you, and you said my account was not found, there has been normal login my account
06:35<nate>I have no idea what "Artificial customer service" is, my comment still stands. This is a -community- support/chat channel. Community as in the majority of us are just linode customers and linode staff don't really help with account stuff over IRC
06:35<nate>you need to contact them directly
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06:38<dabral>Hello
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06:39<dabral>??
06:39<skch0812>wait
06:39<dabral>ok waiting
06:40<skch0812>Why do account does not exist for no reason
06:40<skch0812>Is the system problem? Is my question
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06:41<skch0812>?
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06:42<skch0812>???
06:42<nate>skch0812: it's a question none of us can answer, like I said the majority of us are not linode employees, we cannot see your account
06:43<nate>We cannot see whether it ever existed. Only linode can, and linode is only going to answer if you contact them -directly- and give them whatever evidence you can that you had an account previously
06:43<skch0812>This two days system is there a problem? Account will not exist
06:44<nate>I have no idea what you're talking about "two day system"
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07:00<nate>For a minute there I was gonna say it must have something because it redirects me to www.* but then I forgot firefox auto-fixes it in case of stupidity and will try www.$domain.tld if $domain.tld fails to resolve
07:03<nate>Whoop, wrong room
07:04<arlen>:)
07:09<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Suddenly mail is stop working. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15036&p=74182#p74182>
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07:29<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Suddenly mail is stop working. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15036&p=74183#p74183>
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08:47<rnowak>hawk: did you recently post to the e..-q... mailing list? :P
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10:39<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Using GoDaddy as DNS Server for Linode Instance <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15038&p=74184#p74184>
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10:59<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Finnix ca certs <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15039&p=74185#p74185>
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11:32<shergea>hi
11:32<acald3ron>shergea, ehlo
11:32<shergea>i cant login my account
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11:33<shergea>What is the reason?
11:33<e473f31409d3975>hey? anyone got delays with account review?
11:33<dwfreed>e473f31409d3975: it can take a few hours sometimes; have patience
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11:33<e473f31409d3975>are they being reviewed manually?
11:34<e473f31409d3975>what's actually being reviewed?
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11:37<shergea>My account has been deleted
11:37<shergea>:S
11:37<scotti>shergea: you dun goofed
11:37<e473f31409d3975>my account is not even activated
11:37<dwfreed>e473f31409d3975: yes, account review is a manual process. They look at all of your signup information plus some information provided by a third party to determine whether they need to ask for additional information
11:37<scotti>e473f31409d3975: you should wait until USA working hours
11:38<dwfreed>scotti: it *is* USA working hours
11:38<e473f31409d3975>i might have specified incorrect and fictional information
11:38<scotti>it's 11:38 in New Jersey
11:38<dwfreed>e473f31409d3975: that's going to be problematic then
11:38<scotti>I doubt any linoders come in before noon
11:38<dwfreed>scotti: support is there 24/7
11:38<scotti>in N.J.?
11:38<dwfreed>yes
11:38<e473f31409d3975>i can edit it though
11:39<scotti>they don't outsource support ?
11:39<dwfreed>scotti: no, support are Linode employees
11:39<scotti>cool
11:39*scotti is glad they don't outsource
11:39<dwfreed>e473f31409d3975: do that, and then open a support ticket mentioning you've updated your information
11:39<scotti>USA
11:39<scotti>USA
11:39*scotti <3s USA
11:40<e473f31409d3975>the option is not available
11:40<e473f31409d3975>any link redirect to https://manager.linode.com/account/pending
11:40<dwfreed>that should have the option of opening a support ticket still
11:40<dwfreed>in which case you can just put the correct information in the ticket
11:41<shergea>Linode kredi kartımdan para çekti ve şimdi hesabım silindi.
11:41<shergea>linode withdraw money from my credit card and my account was deleted now.
11:42<shergea>Is the admin here?
11:44<dwfreed>shergea: if they cancelled your account after you signed up, then the charge was refunded, but it may take time for your card issuer to process the refund
11:45<shergea>Why was my account canceled?
11:45<scotti>shergea: it was probably a good reason
11:45<shergea>I sent the documents they requested
11:46<scotti>do you have a history screwing over other providers?
11:46<scotti>I'm sure they check FraudRecord
11:46*scotti cancelled and refunded someone today for being a dipshit at like 10 other providers
11:46<scotti>I'm not a linoder though
11:48<shergea>I signed up today. I do not have any incidents
11:48<shergea>are you the manager?
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11:54<shergea>is the Linode employee here?
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11:56<Amr>Hello
11:56<dzho>!to shergea ops
11:56<linbot>shergea: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
11:57<dzho>!to Amr ask
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11:57<linbot>Amr: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
11:57<Amr>Just wondering what is pricing for DNS manager?
11:57<Amr>I'm currently owning a shared web hosting and I'd like to move to Linode for a VPS offering
11:58<dzho>no additional charge, if I understand what you're talking about correctly
11:58<Amr>And does Linode offer a mail server and domain transfer options?
11:59<Amr>thanks @dzho, I was just wondering since it is added under add-ons and doesn't seem to be included with the packages inside pricing page
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12:01<dzho>maybe it's a different thing than what I'm thinking of
12:01<dzho>all the other things on that list are fee-for-service I think?
12:01<dzho>so it's a good question.
12:01<dzho>Amr: ^^^
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12:02<Amr>Thanks @dzho that was a great help, I think I might try to manage everything and if I couldn't I would cancel and get a refund in 7 days
12:03<dzho>Amr: nope, when I log in to the manager the tab I use at no additional charge is called "DNS Manager"
12:03<dzho>looks like Longview also has a no-charge tier (I don't use it)
12:03<dzho>Amr: that makes sense, to try it out first
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12:03<Amr>Cool
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12:06<somemd5hash>it's me again
12:06<somemd5hash>i can't login into the account anymore
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12:07<somemd5hash>invalid username or password
12:07<somemd5hash>the hell?
12:08<somemd5hash>i paid $5 :c
12:09<dzho>!to somemd5hash ops
12:09<linbot>somemd5hash: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
12:09<somemd5hash>what ops
12:09<somemd5hash>hello ops
12:10<somemd5hash>my account has been deleted
12:10<somemd5hash>along with the money i sent to you
12:10<somemd5hash>invalid username or password...
12:11<shergea>same to me
12:12<somemd5hash>you just registered?
12:12<somemd5hash>because i did
12:12<dzho>please use the URL given above to contact linode
12:12<somemd5hash>like an hour ago
12:12<dzho>please use the URL given above to contact linode
12:12<somemd5hash>oh well!
12:12<shergea>yes, same
12:12<somemd5hash>i can't open the ticket since my account has been deleted!
12:13<dzho>please use the URL given above to contact linode
12:13<shergea>I lost my trust in linode, stole my money
12:13<shergea>They are not answering
12:13<somemd5hash>same
12:13<dzho>sometimes it takes them awhile
12:13<somemd5hash>maybe there's a better service?
12:13<dzho>shocking as it might be to learn, they have other customers who also have questions and concerns
12:13<somemd5hash>can i get a refund?
12:14<dzho>somemd5hash: if you learn of a better service those of us who don't work for linode are probably interested in hearing about it.
12:14<dzho>if we don't already know about it, of course, which is a rare thing.
12:14<dzho>somemd5hash: please use the URL given above to contact linode
12:14<somemd5hash>i'm not saying your service is total crap, but facts are saying for themselves
12:15<shergea>okay dzho, sorry
12:15<dzho>it's not my service, I don't work for linode
12:15<somemd5hash>me neither
12:15<dzho><.<
12:15<shergea>But this is nonsense
12:15<somemd5hash>exactly
12:15<somemd5hash>i paid my money and i don't have the product
12:16<somemd5hash>i submitted a ticket and now it says invalid username and password
12:16<shergea>and deleted account
12:16<somemd5hash>yup
12:16<somemd5hash>wtf
12:16<somemd5hash>and yes, i didn't change anything
12:16<jcanto>Th interesting part is, Linode does not charge inmediatly
12:17<somemd5hash>recover password does not work
12:17<somemd5hash>it did
12:17<jcanto>waits for 7 days
12:17<shergea>accounts deleted bro
12:17<shergea>I open a new account with the same mail
12:17<shergea>try it
12:17<dzho>jcanto: yeah, I was just working around to that.
12:18<somemd5hash>it asked me to complete the registration with my credit card
12:18<shergea>But wants money
12:18<somemd5hash>as soon as i pressed OK i got an sms from my bank saying payment succeeded $5.00 LINODE.COM
12:18<dzho>given credit card info is not the same thing as having paid.
12:18<dzho>sometimes I give my credit card number to a business and *they* give *me* money!
12:18<dzho>what a world.
12:19<somemd5hash>> as soon as i pressed OK i got an sms from my bank saying payment succeeded $5.00 LINODE.COM
12:19<somemd5hash>and well, here it goes
12:19<dzho>somemd5hash: please use the URL given above to contact linode
12:19<shergea>Credit cards were the same
12:19<somemd5hash>dude
12:19<somemd5hash>i can't answer to a ticket
12:19<dzho>srsly
12:19<somemd5hash>neither can i open it
12:19<dzho>then pick up the goddamned phone
12:19<shergea>this situation ridiculous
12:19<somemd5hash>account is deleted
12:19<dzho>or send an email
12:20<dzho>or wait for your refund
12:20<somemd5hash>can't i just get my server for the money i paid?
12:20<dzho>apparently not?
12:20<somemd5hash>why do i need to write an email
12:20<somemd5hash>and wait for a reply
12:20<dzho>because those are things that might actually work, unlike haranguing an IRC channel full of people who can't do anything about your situation
12:20<jcanto>OK, maybe the code has a bug, shit happens, we all know that
12:21<somemd5hash>there are ops you said
12:21<dzho>I did!
12:21<somemd5hash>how can i contact them
12:21<dzho>so that's another thing you could do, is read about IRC and figure out what ops are
12:21<dzho>but you know what?
12:21<dzho>the people in this channel who are ops are also the people you can reach by email or phone
12:22<somemd5hash>or maybe i can just get my service instead of spending my time looking for answers?
12:22<dzho>I doubt it!
12:22<somemd5hash>how about that?
12:22<somemd5hash>why not?
12:22<dzho>because I don't work for linode
12:22<somemd5hash>it's as simple as it sounds
12:22<somemd5hash>payment received, server offered
12:22<dzho>*plonk*
12:23<DanielNM>somemd5hash: Call Linode: +1-609-380-7100
12:23<somemd5hash>haha
12:23<somemd5hash>dude
12:23<somemd5hash>i'm from russia
12:23<dzho>we had someone on here a while back claiming they paid someone in bitcoin for a linode
12:23<microvb>hello, I seem to be having a reachability issue on IPv6 to my gitlab box. I checked nginx is listening on all ipv6, and firewall is configured to allow traffic on the required port.
12:24<dzho>except linode doesn't accept bitcoin, so who know who they paid?
12:24<relidy>!to microvb mtr
12:24<linbot>microvb: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/diagnosing-network-issues-with-mtr
12:27<microvb>Error response 2
12:29<relidy>microvb: If I'm understanding you properly, that sounds like a DNS resolver issue.
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12:32<Peng>GitLab has IPv6?
12:33<dzho>it can, if you run it on your linode, I expect
12:33<Peng>Oh. Duh.
12:33<dzho>:-)
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13:16<tony>I can't log in my account, can anyone help?
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13:17<microvb>Peng -- ya, sorry wasn't clear. running the open distro , not the hosted subscription :)
13:19<microvb>relidy : using linodes dns. appropriate AAAA and A records are in place resolving to the correct assigned IPv6 and IPv4 address respectively.
13:19<dwfreed>resolver, not authoritative nameserver
13:20<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • stat=Deferred: Connection refused by debian.myMainDomain.com. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15021&p=74186#p74186>
13:20<microvb>ping6: `PING git.microvb.com(git.microvb.com (2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe24:7db7)) 56 data bytes`
13:21<dwfreed>it works from here, so it sounds like a local issue
13:21<microvb>ping: `PING git.microvb.com (192.81.135.212) 56(84) bytes of data.` resolve is working correct
13:21<dwfreed>this is what mtr would be useful in telling you
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13:22<dwfreed>'mtr -6rwbez git.microvb.com' would be the most useful incantation
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13:22<microvb>i am doing git push/pull from other linode boxes to gitlab which is on a linode box. that test was from one of the boxes i am trying to communicate to my gitlab (both hosted on a linode box as well) -- resolultion hasn't been an issue. Reachability / routing is barfing for me
13:23<grawity>I can successfully connect to https://git.microvb.com over both v4 and v6...
13:23<microvb>git clone -4 works,
13:23<dwfreed>are you cloning over ssh or git protocol?
13:23<microvb>^ thank you, that is one step closer :)
13:23<dwfreed>or http
13:23<microvb>ssh/git
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13:23<dwfreed>it's either ssh or git, not both
13:24<microvb>grawity: are you able to see the GitLab page when you browse ?
13:24<grawity>yes
13:24<microvb>whatever `git clone git@git.microvb.com:blah/foo` uses. i believe ssh
13:24<grawity>that's SSH
13:25<grawity>(which seems to be firewalled on both v4 & v6)
13:25<Jacklee>is linode just for developers or can I host an ecommerce website on linode for example?
13:25<microvb>only to the outside world, not between my boxes
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13:25<dwfreed>Jacklee: you can host whatever you want
13:25<microvb>Jacklee: you can use Linode for whatever you desire :)
13:25<dwfreed>(as long as it's legal)
13:26<microvb>^ heh
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13:27<dwfreed>microvb: pastebin 'ip6tables-save' from the gitlab linode
13:28<dwfreed>!redact
13:28<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs or logs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
13:28<dwfreed>^ also keep that in mind
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13:31<microvb>http://termbin.com/slwc
13:31<scotti>dwfreed: pretty sure you can't host a BTC miner on Linode sir
13:31<scotti>and that's very legal
13:31<grawity>pastebin also `ip -6 route` and `nft list ruleset`, while you're at it :D
13:31<microvb>heh... always do, unless something absolutely requires censoring -- i typically do not obfuscate logs / debug info
13:34<microvb>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tkn18KbM/ip%20-6%20route
13:35<microvb>don't have the nft command
13:35<dwfreed>you have a firewall somehow
13:35<dwfreed>and your ip6tables-save is empty
13:35<dwfreed>unless you ran it on the wrong host
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13:36<microvb>ugh... turned it off to upload /slaps-self-with-large-trout
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13:37<microvb>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/f8vOWIB5/ip6tables-save
13:39<grawity>that's a lot of countries you're blocking
13:39<@jchun>scotti: the actual mining of BTC isn't really the problem. The problem is when you inevitably abuse CPU. Theoretically, if you capped your CPU usage and mined BTC, it would be perfectly okay. ;) Not that CPU mining on cloud hosting providers will ever be profitable...
13:40<microvb>yes. keeps my systems sane
13:40<scotti>jchun: so you're saying I can pound a core 24/7
13:40<microvb>many years of testing, and that combination works well for me and my clients
13:40*scotti will do that then
13:41<scotti>as long as I cap it at 1 core - right?
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13:41<@jchun>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
13:41<scotti>( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:41<scotti>hehe
13:41<grawity>microvb: is that ruleset handwritten or generated
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13:42<microvb>cpu % ... but btc mining on pc's is not profitable anymore. need devices specific to the task as cost of operating plus wear and tear, etc of a pc / vm is more than you would ever see return
13:42<microvb>grawity -- using CSF
13:42<microvb>grawity: would you like the csf.conf i use ?
13:42<scotti>can I just pound a core running `yes` ?
13:42<grawity>can't see anything obviously wrong with it, but
13:43<@jchun>In general, mining isn't profitable anymore unless you go all-in and invest in some serious hardware.
13:43<@jchun>P.S: I haven't really followed the cryptocurrency scene as closely as I could have so I may have no clue what I'm talking about.
13:44<microvb>http://termbin.com/rz8e if curious
13:45<microvb>appreciate the outside testing -- would be nice to know if you can see the page over ipv6 at https://git.microvb.com as I am on with gitlab as a potential failure in nginx -- if that page is visible to you, then I know i can rule that out.
13:47<@jchun>https://hastebin.com/qimahuharo.js
13:47<grawity>still works fine here
13:48<microvb>ok, so you are seeing the page
13:49<microvb>so it has to be some routing issue or something common with outbound connections --- will send an ipv6tables dump off one of the boxes i am trying to communicate from
13:50<grawity>is that box not receiving any packets at all, or does the connection go dead upon *large* packets, or something?
13:51<microvb>http://termbin.com/y8gi
13:53<microvb>i am unable to test ipv6 on that box except from other boxes. when i use git from the box i just pasted the ip6tables-save for, to my gitlab box, it just hangs
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13:53<microvb>unless i use -4 then it works
13:53<grawity>use wireshark or tcpdump to investigate
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13:54<microvb>i get the `cloning into "foo"` message, but nothing more
13:55<dwfreed>your csf config doesn't appear to be allowing any traffic on IPv6 except port 443
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13:55<microvb>have the host whitelisted
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13:55<microvb>all my linode boxes can see each other on all ports
13:56<dwfreed>pastebin 'ipset list chain_6_ALLOW'
13:57<dwfreed>(that is the only ipset that would allow any traffic outside of 443)
13:58<microvb>hmm. no idea what this means, but seems like it may be referencing the information rather than giving the straight goods ?
13:58<microvb>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Vef49NWs/
14:00<microvb>after that was the command line again.
14:06<dwfreed>that means you're not allowing anything
14:06<dwfreed>ie, it's empty
14:14<microvb>if i'm not allowing anything then how can grawity see the page over ipv6 ?
14:18<grawity>because it's over port 443?
14:20<microvb>yes but that command should show all ipv6 that is open which shows none
14:21<microvb>unless you actually saw over ipv4 then that would align with all the data.
14:30<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • I'm trying to figure out why open SSH connections are disconnected <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15034&p=74187#p74187>
14:30<microvb>was able to confirm (via ssllabs.com) that my ipv6 address is reachable, so this is a listener/firewall issue -- the gitlabs page pulls up over 443 at my ipv6 address. thinking maybe ssh isn't listening on ipv6 which may be the issue
14:33<microvb>(light-bulb) ... csf isn't whitelisting the ipv6 addresses ... only ipv4 -.-
14:34<dwfreed>microvb: csf is configured to allow 443 for anybody over IPv6 (except for the country codes you've forbidden)
14:35<Peng>Does it allow ICMP? :<
14:36<dwfreed>Peng: yes, it allows all IPv6 ICMP types
14:36<Peng>\o/
14:36<microvb>^right :) thank you guys for helping me get all the puzzle pieces together. the root of this problem was : I have CSF configured to whitelist my boxes by name, which is only whitelisting their ipv4 addresses.
14:36<dwfreed>heh
14:37<microvb>not sure aside from manually pasting them in how to whitelist ipv6 by name, but testing a solution now -- :)
14:40<microvb>could you grant me a bit more of your infinite wisdom please. i have never added an ipv6 address range to a whitelist before using csf. how do i compact my ipv6 address to the range or cidr/whatever the name is
14:40<microvb>2600:3c03:0000:0000:f03c:91ff:fef1:b418 ( that for example )
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14:41<dwfreed>microvb: remove the largest contiguous string of zeros and replace it with ::
14:41<dwfreed>so that becomes 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fef1:b418
14:41<microvb>and thats my block ? or is that a simplified version of the same ip ?
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14:42<dwfreed>simplified
14:42<dwfreed>each linode only has one IPv6 address in that range
14:43<microvb>ah, cools :). ok, so test is complete, and that was definitely the problem. ty so much :)
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15:05<Linode1>I joined the channel thru irc, but I don't see any activity...
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15:06<arlen>Linode1: rawr
15:06<muppet42>greetings all... wondering about the viability of creating a site to site IPSEC VPN connection between an existing linode hosted site we've got and a Cisco ASA
15:06<muppet42>also possibly another juniper firewall
15:06<muppet42>see stuff about remote access VPNs through open VPN on the site
15:06<muppet42>but nothing about site to site / L2L style stuff
15:07<Linode1>hey arlen
15:08<Linode1>@muppet42 I'm able to access my linode via vpn
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15:09<muppet42>sure... this is different from a client to remote network VPN... basically I need to create a secure tunnel between a data center and linode that'd be automatically raised when traffic needed to traverse
15:10<Linode1>sort of like a node?
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15:11<muppet42>not sure I'm understanding the context you're using "node" for there
15:11<Linode1>a tor node is the closes thing I can think off
15:11<Linode1>closest*
15:11<muppet42>ah yeah no this is quite different
15:12<muppet42>IPSEC L2L tunnels are essentially used by enterprises to secure data that needs to be sent back and forth between disparate offices
15:12<muppet42>or between companies
15:13<muppet42>hrm... worried we're gonna have to jump ship for AWS or something
15:17<ttr>Hmm maybe you can use Openswan on Linode to make the l2l tunnel?
15:17<muppet42>hrm... not familiar w/ openswan
15:17<muppet42>I'll take a look
15:18<Linode1>good suggestiong I will check that out @ttr
15:23<ttr>Maybe something like this would work https://connectip.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/ipsec-site-to-site-vpn-cisco-asa-openswan/
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15:27<happydays>anybody run kali on linode?
15:27<muppet42>holy carp @ttr... very useful
15:29<muppet42>now... only thing i'm not sure about is whether it'd be wise to run openswan as a separate instance
15:29<muppet42>thing is... they need to functionally behave like they're on the same vlan for this to work as desired
15:30<muppet42>hrm.......
15:30<happydays>#packet tracer
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15:32<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>hello hello
15:32<ttr>I think that should work... Just bind services on the "lan" interface
15:32<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>=]
15:33<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>I was going to suggest that link, but I wasn't really sure as it was the first google page result I figured you seen it
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15:56<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>so whats the number 1 OS that your customers use @LinodeSupport?
15:56<millisa>Linux?
15:57<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>what distro?
15:57<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>whats the most popular?
15:58<millisa>I doubt anyone here knows, or those who do, officially would not say.
15:58<Celti>I would guess CentOS based on my experience working for other VPS providers.
15:59<Celti>Very few customers asked for anything else.
15:59<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>I figured as much
15:59<Celti>If they did, it was Ubuntu.
15:59<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>I like ubuntu, very underrated.
15:59<millisa>ubuntu would have been my guess
15:59<ttr>CentOS, Debian or Ubuntu I guess
16:00<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>Celti you like working for VPS providers?
16:00<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>I installed my CENT OS on my linode the other night, installed graphical interface not as fast as I thought it would be very laggy
16:00<Celti>Was the best job I've ever had.
16:01<Celti>Then again, I haven't had many jobs.
16:01<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>Do you work at LINODE now?
16:01<Celti>I do not.
16:01<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>so you just chill here to help others? thats cool
16:01<Celti>I would like to, but that means moving across the country and I'm too poor for that.
16:02<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>sorry to hear that celti
16:04<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>I'm new to Linode, just getting the hang of it. I love the easy interface on the website, and the fact I can connect with MObaxterm from anywhere
16:04<dwfreed>Celti: Linode will pay relocation expenses
16:04<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>@dwfreed? really dang
16:04<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>dwfreed you work for Linode?
16:04<dwfreed>I used to
16:04<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>what happened?
16:05<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>ahh you worked for them 3 years back thats a long time
16:06<millisa>He had to go back home to defend his title at the local Roller Disco.
16:06<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>LOL
16:06<relidy>!point millisa
16:06<linbot>relidy: Point given to millisa. (29) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7)
16:06<dwfreed>!point millisa
16:06<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to millisa. (30) (Biggest fan: arlen, total: 7)
16:06<Celti>dwfreed: In my experience that's usually a reimbursement, not an advance, and I'm still living paycheck to paycheck for a while yet.
16:07<dwfreed>Celti: they're very accommodating, I don't doubt you could figure something out
16:08<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>they offer training right?
16:09<Celti>dwfreed: Shhhhh! If you keep being reasonable I'll have to face my deep-set fear of moving away from the city I was born and raised in! :-p
16:12<millisa>Remember everyone, when someone wishes you a "happy sysadmin day", the proper and only response isn't "Thank you." It is "Did you submit a ticket on that?"
16:15<Celti>Please, no more tickets. o.o
16:15*Celti saw about 300 more tickets than usual hit the queues at work today because ops totally buggered rolling out an update to SCCM, requiring manual intervention
16:16<arlen>oops
16:17<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>lol thats right its sysadmin day
16:18<arlen>happy sysadmin day!
16:22<millisa>!to arlen ticket
16:22<linbot>arlen: Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here.
16:22*arlen opens 10 tickets with millisa
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16:55<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>hello I need some help with apache.
16:55<millisa>!ask
16:55<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
16:56<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>thank you
16:56<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>Just installed apache on my cent os server, I'm pulling up the land page successfully. I have a domain and would like to use it. Anyone have instructions on how to?
16:58<millisa>this guide is ubuntu/debian oriented: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/hosting-a-website, but other than the paths being a little different, and using the 'a2enmod' bit, the idea is similar on centos
16:58<jcanto>??
16:59<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>thank you
16:59<relidy>C4RL0sD4J4ck4L: https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/lamp/lamp-on-centos-7
16:59<millisa>ooh, that's much better.
17:00<relidy>The more generic one you linked has some additional content the CentOS one doesn't, but between the two, that should get C4RL0sD4J4ck4L moving in the right direction.
17:01<millisa>the biggest piece missing from the centos specific one - use 'apachectl -t' to test your config before restart/reload of the service
17:01<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>you are the boss
17:11<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • I'm trying to figure out why open SSH connections are disconnected <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15034&p=74188#p74188>
17:11<microvb>Is this controlled by Linode, or is it a user on Linode ? : `SMTP call from scan-42.security.ipip.net :58240 dropped: too many unrecognized commands (last was "Pragma: no-cache")`
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17:12<f18139050d84e4a>it's me again, the one with the account gone. i messaged the support but got no response.
17:13<f18139050d84e4a>anyone else got this problem?
17:13<millisa>nope
17:13<dzho>"messaged"
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17:14<f18139050d84e4a>what's wrong
17:14<f18139050d84e4a>there's no such word or what
17:15<f18139050d84e4a>whatever
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17:20<microvb>heh... i should have checked the whois records on that, clearly : https://www.whoisxmlapi.com/?domainName=ipip.net&outputFormat=xml is not Linode staff. definitely abuse
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17:23<arlen>ok
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17:25<microvb>arlen: looks like they scrap ip's scanning for services and sell the data
17:25<microvb>scrape*
17:25<arlen>welcome to having something on the internet
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17:25<microvb>hahaha, so true XD
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18:05<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>apache is so annoying...
18:05<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>actually correction my sql is, not apache.
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18:07<FluffyFoxeh>two people at once in here claiming to have a previously unheard of "disappearing Linode account" problem... sounds like trolling or some other nefariousness
18:08<relidy>Or just Linode finally getting around to a batch of suspicious accounts.
18:08<arlen>^
18:08<FluffyFoxeh>or that, yeah
18:09<FluffyFoxeh>oh well, at least I got a good laugh out of the conversation earlier
18:09<FluffyFoxeh>:p
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18:40<VicFrank>I need suport from my linode
18:40<millisa>!ask
18:40<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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18:40<VicFrank>I have 2 days with problems
18:41*VicFrank slaps millisa around a bit with a large fishbot
18:42<DanielNM>Poor fishbot
18:43<VicFrank>I need to cooy some files and download for restor my linode, but I can't access for ssh and sftp?
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18:44<millisa>why not?
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18:50<VicFrank>Do you speak spanish?
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18:50<millisa>I don't.
18:51<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>as a tech support agent are you guys required to install sql, bind, etc?
18:51<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>or is that all client side?
18:52<millisa>I'm not 100% I get what you are asking, but Linode's are unmanaged vps's. Generally you install whatever you want.
18:52<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>ahh ok thank you
18:53<millisa>The linode folks don't install anything or even log into your system (unless you are paying for their professional services stuff)
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18:59<nate>C4RL0sD4J4ck4L: The details for managed/professional can be found linked on the pricing page I believe
19:01<Cromulent>!managed
19:01<linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
19:01<Cromulent>!pro
19:01<linbot>https://www.linode.com/professional-services
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19:12<Roboto>Hi! I'm new to Linode, and am looking to set up Cent OS with MySQL, Apache, and PHP as a web server - is there anything I should be doing to harden the OS against potential hackers/scripts, aside from what the Linode guides are telling me to do?
19:12<Roboto>Any insight or advice would be appreciated
19:17<synfinatic>there are a lot of how to secure a server guides available if you google for them
19:18<Roboto>thank you - i guess googling for a guide for CentOS security should suffice then.
19:18<synfinatic>probably the most important thing is you php app(s). a lot of php apps aren't very secure. making sure you can quickly update when new versions are released is pretty important
19:19<Roboto>will do so - appreciate the advice. Thank you synfinatic
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19:22<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>root are you signed in using irssis?
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19:33<echoSMILE>servers for geeks: linode, domain registers for geeks: ?
19:34<FluffyFoxeh>I use namecheap. I kind of don't like it though
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19:41<shazy>hi
19:42<millisa>greetingas
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19:42<millisa>er, greetings
19:42<shazy>helo
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19:42<soufiane>hello
19:42<millisa>Greetings.
19:43<shazy>sir tell me you have Offshore vps,,,,
19:43<millisa>!speedtest
19:43<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
19:43<millisa>Those are the locations
19:43<shazy>which location ignore DMCA,,,,
19:44<synfinatic>you probably want to read the TOS: https://www.linode.com/tos
19:44<millisa>see, that would be illegal.
19:44<shazy>you have russia or Netherland Loctaion Vps,
19:45<synfinatic>that's not how the law works
19:45<synfinatic>linode is a USA company
19:45<shazy>ok
19:45<dwfreed>echoSMILE: I'm a fan of Gandi
19:45<nate>Shazy: Even if linode did, chances are somewhere upstream does not
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19:46<nate>there's no such thing as "ignoring DMCA". Someone somewhere along the line will lol
19:46<nate>ah well
19:46<synfinatic>tbh, if you're hosting purely in .ru, they don't really care
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19:54<nate>just send a report to the ISP that the owner is anti-putin
19:54<nate>simple
19:54<nate>lol
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22:24<mastoro>hi ....
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22:25<millisa>greetings
22:26<mastoro>what is the best backup alternative than r1soft?
22:39<arlen>Linodes backup option?
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23:15<mastoro>linode backup cannot individual files
23:17<arlen>instead, all the files :)
23:26<FluffyFoxeh>what about my flies?
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23:27<arlen>those too
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23:53<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>hello
23:54<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>Having issues with DNS manager, placed my domain in the dns manager how long is the wait for the server to take affect?
23:54<Peng>About 15 minutes or less.
23:55<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>its been longer than that then, I must be missing something. I'm using a squarespace domain.
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23:55<Peng>What's the domain
23:55<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>ilovetechnstuff.com
23:55<Peng>What data are you expecting. What do you get.
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23:56<millisa>did you just update the nameservers at the registrar? (whois says Updated Date: 2017-07-29T03:36:43Z)
23:56<Peng>C4RL0sD4J4ck4L: The zone needs to be named "ilovetechnstuff.com", not "www.ilovetechnstuff.com"
23:57<Peng>millisa: Seems good on the com nameservers
23:57<millisa>(didn't look)
23:57<Peng>At least, my local com nameserver...
23:57<Peng>!dns6 ilovetechnstuff.com
23:57<linbot>Peng: All nameservers failed to answer the query ilovetechnstuff.com. IN A: Server ::1 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL
23:57<Peng>!dns6 www.ilovetechnstuff.com
23:57<linbot>Peng: 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe3e:cb52, 45.56.109.179
23:57<Peng>!dns6 www.www.ilovetechnstuff.com
23:57<linbot>Peng: 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe3e:cb52, 45.56.109.179
23:57<C4RL0sD4J4ck4L>updated the dnsmanager
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