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01:03<montigny34>hey all :)
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01:03<montigny34>Does anybody know how to setup name servers on my linode so that domains can setup their DNS instead of using A records to point to my server?
01:06<Zimsky>google knows
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01:07<montigny34>is bind DNS what I'm looking for?
01:08<Zimsky>it's one software package you can use, yes
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01:08<montigny34>Sweet
01:10<Zimsky>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software#Feature_matrix
01:10<montigny34>Zimsky: In your opinion should I only allow clients to host html, css and php files?
01:10<montigny34>As far as coding goes
01:10<Zimsky>it depends entirely on how the system is set up
01:10<montigny34>For example bash scripts should not be allowed?
01:10<montigny34>actually to run cron jobs they would need bash if I'm not mistaken
01:10<Zimsky>if your web server runs php, then allowing clients to host php is probably not a good idea if you don't have proper security
01:11<Zimsky>I still don't know what you are trying to achieve
01:11<montigny34>I'm creating a hosting server
01:11<montigny34>we went over this last night :P
01:12<Zimsky>I know
01:12<montigny34>What did you mean by that statement then?
01:12<montigny34>What questions did I not answer?
01:12<Zimsky>I know we went over this last night, I didn't know it was a hosting thing
01:12<montigny34>ohhh I thought I mentioned it, my bad
01:13<Zimsky>webhosts suck
01:14<montigny34>Hey! I'm creating startable.co.uk btw in case you want to know more :)
01:14<montigny34>check out the site
01:14<Zimsky>does it use HTTPS?
01:14<montigny34>the domain does
01:14<montigny34>the server will as well
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01:46<nate>montigny34: I think the point being attempted to make is that a system can be potentially easily defeated by unchecked PHP, which is why most 'shared hosts' doing PHP hosting enact a ton of security measures
01:57*dcraig tickles zimsky around a bit with a large bighead carp
01:57*dcraig tickles nate around a bit with a large pearleye
01:57<Zimsky>nate killed harambe
01:58<dcraig>what is this dallas 2 nonsense
01:59<nate>the sequel of the tokyo 2 stuff?
02:01<Zimsky>why is there no moscow location
02:01<Peng>somewhat different; Dallas 1 and 2 have an integrated network.
02:05<dcraig>I remember for Fremont 1 to Fremont 2, they loaded up all the servers in caker's hyundai and drove them down the street
02:06<dcraig>sounds like they have servers in both places simultaneously
02:06<dcraig>or maybe driving them around as people migrate?
02:07<arlen>your migration is delayed. traffic
02:08<dcraig>dallas485 is making a u-turn when possible
02:11<Peng>dcraig: Yeah, they have servers in Dallas 1 and Dallas 2 simultaneously. They're encouraging/forcing people to do migrations via the standard migration interface.
02:12<Peng>If you resize for a free RAM upgrade or something you (may|will) wind up in Dallas 2.
02:14<dcraig>I have to move by the 25th
02:15<arlen>seems you can tell if you're in D2 by the host name. it'll be something like h1232-rin1
02:15<dcraig>rin?
02:15<arlen>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02:16<zifnab>Reading in Nakedness
02:16<zifnab>erm, wow, is there a linode person whos name starts with "R"
02:17<zifnab>nevermind
02:17<Peng>RIN's the LOCODE for Richardson, TX, a suburb of Dallas.
02:17<Peng>Either Linode likes LOCODEs or it's a huge coincidence.
02:18<zifnab>why LOCODE instead of airports
02:18<zifnab>dallas should be DFW
02:18<Peng>Maybe they like that Linode and LOCODE rhyme. :D
02:18<zifnab>or DAL
02:18<zifnab>fair point
02:18<zifnab>i was trying to come up with an bacronym that ended with 'nymphomaniac'
02:18<zifnab>and failed miserably
02:19<dcraig>is dallas 2 in richardson?
02:19<Peng>I have no idea. Maybe.
02:19<zifnab>just run a geoip from your server
02:19<zifnab>(obvious /s)
02:20<zifnab>some day intel chips will come with built in GPS, today is not that day.
02:20<Peng>They moved me to Absecon, NJ!?!?
02:20<zifnab>`curl ipinfo.io`
02:24<Peng>They refer to Tokyo 2 as Shinagawa or SHG (it's a Tokyo ward), which matches that LOCODE (SHG airport is in Alaska)
02:26<zifnab>fremont is something
02:26<zifnab>i've seen the funnycodes
02:27<zifnab>somewhere, i can't actually find it now
02:27<zifnab>i'm also not entirely sure which box it was on
02:28<zifnab>h1114-fnc1
02:28<zifnab>for fremont
02:28<Peng>fnc is the LOCODE for Fremont
02:29<zifnab>although the host shows as 'fremontXXX' still
02:29<Peng>Apparently FMT is the code for Fremont, Indiana. Hurricane Electric is misleading!
02:29<Peng>Or else their data centers are in Indiana and they've fooled everyone for years
02:29<zifnab>also i'm absolutely shocked at how well nginx does static files
02:30<zifnab>arbitrary app server before/after caching: http://imgur.com/a/Cmrek
02:30<zifnab>(the 6 week gap was "ui no worky")
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03:55<Suresh>How do you increase the diskspace alone?
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03:56<hawk>Suresh: I'm pretty sure you don't (currently)
03:57<Suresh>SO if i need more diskspace, then i should buy the plan that has diskspace i need?
03:57<hawk>yes
03:58<Suresh>4 GB RAM & 2 CPU Cores is sufficient but i need 60Gb diskspace :(
03:58<hawk>https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14906 will be an alternative, when that arrives.
03:58<Suresh>but it offers only 48 SSD hard disk space
04:01<Suresh>Thanks Hawk
04:01<Suresh>you cleared by doubs
04:01<Suresh>doubts
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04:11<fiberno>Hello
04:12<fiberno>I have 2048 plan
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04:13<fiberno>i saw your ads from 5$ for month. that is right
04:14<Zimsky>it is?
04:16<hawk>Afaik it's the 1GB plan that is $5
04:16<hawk>But, yes, there is a plan that is $5, if that was the question.
04:17<fiberno>i bought 2048 plan
04:17<fiberno>this cost will be 10$
04:18<hawk>correct
04:18<fiberno>but i lose my money 107$
04:18<fiberno>why
04:18<hawk>What?
04:20<hawk>If you have questions specifically about your own billing situation, I would suggest that you contact Linode directly (ticket).
04:20<fiberno>yesterday i get email alert from linode, my server is shutdown
04:20<fiberno>so i check my billing
04:21<fiberno>i see cost is 107$ for per month
04:21<nate>fiberno: What is your bandwidth usage? perhaps you went way way over your bandwidth allotment?
04:22<nate>Otherwise do what hawk said, contact linode directly
04:22<fiberno>i use 2048 plan
04:23<hawk>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments may be worthwhile reading as well
04:26<fiberno>yeah i already read,
04:28<fiberno>but why about 2GB plan per month for $105.31
04:28<Meyer_>fiberno: how much data have you used?
04:28<hawk>If it's not clear from the billing statement, then I suggest you ask Linode
04:29<Meyer_>fiberno: Linode 2048 includes 2TB of transfer
04:29<fiberno>yes correct
04:29<fiberno>i used 2048
04:30<Meyer_>fiberno: yes, but how much data transfer have you used?
04:30<Meyer_>if you login to the control panel and look at the details of your VPS you will see a section saying "Network"
04:30<fiberno>it may be aleast 1GB
04:30<Zimsky>fiberno: submit a ticket to linode
04:30<Meyer_>in there you can see Incoming: Outgoing: and Total:
04:30<Zimsky>fiberno: or call them. or email them
04:31<Meyer_>or, check your billing statement. It will tell you what have been charged
04:31*nate suddenly wonders if they got managed enabled
04:32<Meyer_>that might be possible yes
04:32<fiberno>i can't call you
04:32<fiberno>but i will send with email
04:33<nate>fiberno: Or you can just use the ticket system in the linode manager
04:33<fiberno>not yet
04:33<fiberno>if you need i did it
04:33<nate>fiberno: That's all emailing them is going to do, with exception that it might take longer since it's external
04:34<nate>fiberno: We don't need anything. This is a community channel, most of us in here are nothing more than other linode customers, we cannot help you. You need to contact linode about billing issues
04:47<Zimsky>we also sell bagels
04:47<Zimsky>only ₸400
04:48<fiberno>ok i will send complain form to linode
04:53<Zimsky>nate: can I submit a complaint to you?
04:55<nate>only if I get paid for it
04:57<fiberno>someone give me linode complain department
04:58<fiberno>email
04:58<nate>fiberno: Again, submit a ticket
04:58<nate>You have an account, log in to the linode manager and file a support request
05:00<fiberno>i have been create a ticket
05:03<nate>THen wait for a reply
05:03<nate>Sending an email isn't going to get a response any faster, if anything it may delay stuff because you're going to be getting multiple people involved that don't need to be
05:09<fiberno>what was is Linode Managed cost
05:10<arlen>$100
05:12<fiberno>this only addition field right?
05:12<nate>fiberno: if you requested managed on your linode, that's $100 on top of the regular cost of a linode. So $110 for a managed 2048 linode (pro-rated if you joined earlier in the month)
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05:13<fiberno>Amm
05:16<fiberno>can i use without managed
05:20<Meyer_>fiberno: Yes, managed is not required
05:20<fiberno>how to off this
05:23<fiberno>nate: how can i close managed service
05:23<Zimsky>I wonder if anyone in here has actually used managed
05:24<fiberno>but i expensive for me
05:24*jhaas doesn't think he counts
05:28<fiberno>i have another case
05:29<fiberno>i already pay the cost, but my account is shoutdown
05:29<fiberno>why?
05:29<arlen>email and ask
05:38<Zimsky>s/email/call/
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05:53<chris_>If I get a smaller linode plan, can I upgrade to a larger plan later?
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05:54<grawity>yes
05:54<chris_>Thanks!
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06:39<wushenlun>什么情况
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08:06<Zimsky>that was rude
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08:24<cbirk> /translate 什么情况
08:25<Zimsky>more or less means "how's it going"
08:25<Zimsky>"what's up" etc
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08:31<GlennS>Does anyone in here know what /dev/root is?
08:32<GlennS>I have made a fresh Linode with Debian 8, and I notice that `cat /proc/mounts` lists /dev/root, while `mount` lists /dev/sda, and there is no actual device file /dev/root
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08:38<hawk>GlennS: You mean why it's referred to like that?
08:38<GlennS>yes, I think so
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08:43<GlennS>there are things on the web which say /dev/root exists in maintenance mode, other than that I can't find anything about it
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08:56<hawk>GlennS: I'm *guessing* it's what the Linux kernel calls it when it gets to deal with the root fs entirely on its own. I'm guessing it may look slightly differently if you were to use the distro's own kernel which probably has an initrd step that actually mounts the root. To me it doesn't seem interesting enough to really dig into
08:57<GlennS>Does that mean Linode is distributing its own kernel then?
08:57<GlennS>(It turns out I can fix the problem I was having by just adding a symlink `ln -s /dev/sda /dev/root`, so I'm just curious at this point)
08:58<@jhaas>GlennS: yep - https://www.linode.com/kernels
08:58<Zimsky>that's illegal
08:58<@jhaas>you can run the one that comes with your distro if you want - https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distribution-supplied-kernel-with-kvm
08:59<hawk>GlennS: The default Linode setup is their standard kernel (outside of the vm) + fairly minimalalistic install of whichever distro you pick
09:00<GlennS>interesting, thanks
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09:31<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • new Linode Manager <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15001&p=74231#p74231> || Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14906&p=74230#p74230>
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09:40<labonneco>Hello
09:40<labonneco>I have a question
09:41<nbrewer>okay
09:41<labonneco>If I take a linode
09:41<labonneco>and I test it for a mounth
09:41<labonneco>and then I will
09:41<labonneco>send it back
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09:41<nbrewer>use complete sentences.
09:41<labonneco>is it possible?
09:41<labonneco>Ok
09:41<nbrewer>you mean, is it possible to use a Linode for a month?
09:42<labonneco>yes
09:42<labonneco>that's what I mean
09:42<nbrewer>yes, it's possible. You would just have to delete it when you're done with it.
09:42<labonneco>Ok thank your for your quick answer.
09:42<labonneco>I have to delete it before the end of the month.
09:42<nbrewer>Linode charges for usage by the hour, up to a monthly cap. So for example their 2GB plan is never going to be more than $10, but if you use it for less than a month it would be less.
09:43<labonneco>very cool
09:43<labonneco>Since how long is Linode working?
09:43<nbrewer>I should say, more than $10/month without addons like backups, etc
09:43<Woet>https://www.linode.com/pricing
09:43<Woet>mentioned at the bottom.
09:43<Woet>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linode
09:43<Woet>Founded 2003; 14 years ago
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09:45<labonneco>Just to be sure : when I delete my Linode instance there will be no more charges?
09:45<labonneco>Meant for this instance.
09:46<nbrewer>they use what's called metered billing, or maybe they renamed it to hourly billing, but anyway it means that you get charged after you're done using it
09:46<nbrewer>or on the first of the next month
09:50<Woet>labonneco: you get charged for every hour your linode exists.
09:51<Woet>labonneco: you do not get charged if your linode does not exist.
09:51<Woet>[15:43:15] <Woet> https://www.linode.com/pricing
09:51<Woet>[15:43:17] <Woet> mentioned at the bottom.
09:52<labonneco>Thank you. What about the fixed IP?
09:52<labonneco>Did we have a fixed IPv4?
09:52<ponas>whene you delete a linode the ipv4 goes back into the pool
09:52<hawk>1 IPv4 address, yes
09:53<ponas>as long as the linode exists the ipv4 is fixed
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10:38<dominiquex>hello
10:38<dominiquex>just checking
10:38<dominiquex>can anyone see me ?
10:38<hawk>nope
10:38<nbrewer>yes
10:38<dominiquex>lol thanks
10:38<dominiquex>hawk thans even more
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13:51<Tri>hello
13:51<Tri>i have a question
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13:51<jcanto>Just do it
13:52<Tri>can i resize ram or cpu or disk storage without stop or shutdown the server?
13:54<jcanto>I don't think so
13:54<jcanto>I assume you refer to a Linode server
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13:57<Tri>ohh okay, thanks
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14:04<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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15:49<rajeev>hi
15:50<rajeev>Do you have any reseller plan
15:50<rajeev>I can take it and sell hosting from my end
15:50<Cromulent>you can resell linodes if you want but you are in charge of installing any reseller software you need on the linode yourself
15:50<Cromulent>such as cPanel / WHM
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16:08<rajeev>hi
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16:08<rajeev>what will the price for me
16:08<rajeev>Can we just get orders and you will provide other things
16:08<rajeev>like user support login interface and all
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16:24<ponas>rajeev: the pricing is on linode.com and depends on the resources you need. linode provides you the virtual server and basic support related to the infrastructure
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16:34<DrJ>rajeev: linode is not going to manage you reseller customers at all
16:35<DrJ>that is going to be 100% on you
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17:24<gecco>Hey linode, so what's the deal with this Dallas 1 to Dallas 2 migration, are you guys migrating away from softlayer? Going to new servers? Both?
17:24<gecco>What makes dallas 2 different, is there a blog post about this?
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17:25<gecco>I deleted all my XEN linodes today, so, where's my freaking prize? now your moving things to dallas 2, CPUS are going to change, my licenses are going to need reactivating... thrilled
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17:25<gecco>so... what is Dallas 2, can someone give me an update that?
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17:26<Peng>They haven't said much so far. https://blog.linode.com/2017/06/16/linode-turns-14/
17:27<gecco>yeah, I saw that, I'll start to do some traces to see if they are still in softlayer, probably not...
17:27<gecco>but now they are all fancy with their own network, going to be hard to tell
17:28<Peng>It's hard to even tell Dallas 1 and 2 apart in traceroute.
17:28<gecco>its great, love the new network, except when the carrier who's providing it fails, then all goes to hell
17:28<gecco>well thats good, maybe softlayer expanded, I hope they stay there
17:30<Peng>Are there any DFW data centers more expensive than SoftLayer? :P
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17:31<gecco>yeah, I'm sure there are, but it was a good one, better than the piece of crap their using here in Atlanta
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17:31<Peng>Heh
17:32<Peng>Maybe Atlanta 2 is in the works!
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17:33<gecco>I would really like that
17:33<gecco>As long as it has nothing to do with Zayo group, I'm down, but dallas has been good to me, which is why I'd preferably stay put
17:33<Peng>On the other hand, 56 Marietta just had a partial power outage last month. :P
17:34<gecco>don't touch it, leave the damn servers along, real happy, no complaining customers
17:34<Peng>And Zayo hasn't totally burned down since... last year?
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17:34<gecco>yeah, I was affected by that issue at 56
17:34<gecco>so were our operations in Colombia (the country)
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17:34<gecco>WTF... so far away, but still connected
17:35<gecco>It wasn't linodes fault, but Telex should have been hammered, doing such a thing at 9am in the morning
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17:48<dcraig>linode migration as performance art
17:53<dcraig>!wx khio
17:53<linbot>dcraig: [metar] OBS at KHIO: 98.6F/37C, visibility 2 miles, wind 0.00 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 29.90) [KHIO 032053Z 00000KT 2SM HZ FU CLR 37/13 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP118 T03670133 58013]
17:53<dcraig>but my thermometer says 103 :(
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18:48<Ikaros>!wx kdfw
18:48<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 91.4F/33C, visibility 10 miles, wind 0.00 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 29.98) [KDFW 032153Z 00000KT 10SM SCT055TCU BKN100 33/19 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP142 TCU]
18:49<Ikaros>Heh, don't see that very often. "Towering cumulus"
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20:04<MrPPS>hi Woet
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20:29<arlen>hi MrPPS
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20:51<Zimsky>hi MrPPS
20:51<MrPPS>hi arlen
20:51<MrPPS>hi Zimsky
20:51<MrPPS>hi erryone
20:59<arlen>hi
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21:14<likolilo>Hi
21:14<likolilo>All
21:14<likolilo>!
21:15<likolilo>Any one There !!
21:15<likolilo>Please !
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21:16<likolilo>!!
21:16<likolilo>All away !
21:16<MrPPS>Yes
21:16<MrPPS>!ask
21:16<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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21:22<likolilo>hi
21:22<likolilo>bro
21:22<likolilo>i wanna pay via paypal
21:22<likolilo>but i dont see paypal in your website !
21:23<likolilo>any help
21:26<MrPPS>likolilo: I believe you can set that up once you've got a CC on file
21:28<MrPPS>Yep, definitely there under the "make a payment" tab.
21:28<MrPPS>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments "We accept Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express. We also accept PayPal, as well as checks and money orders (which must be in USD) made out to “Linode, LLC” and sent to our office address."
21:29<Zimsky>that kind of defeats the purpose though
21:29<Zimsky>if you must have a credit card payment/record of the details before you can use paypal to pay
21:30<MrPPS>I guess it depends on if your purpose is to avoid having a CC online, or simply to prefer utilising paypal
21:30<MrPPS>But I get your point
21:34<Zimsky>the primary idea of paypal is to avoid using your credit card on a bunch of sites
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21:36<likolilo>ah ok
21:36<likolilo>Thank you
21:40<MrPPS>No worries!
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21:48<likolilo>when i login
21:48<likolilo>to pay
21:48<likolilo>no paypal
21:48<likolilo>on panel *only cc
21:48<likolilo>:
21:48<likolilo>:(
21:48<likolilo>whats the problem
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21:48<erik_>hi guys are you doing any reboots this morning?
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21:49<millisa>likolilo: this video shows how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BG6CGsIZwc
21:49<erik_>unrelated to xen
21:49<likolilo>ly account
21:49<likolilo>is new
21:49<likolilo>i never
21:49<likolilo>pay
21:49<likolilo>im new on linode
21:49<likolilo>no paypal
21:49<likolilo>:(
21:50<millisa>I'm afraid I don't follow.
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21:51<MrPPS>likolilo: Are you saying you don't have a paypal account, or that paypal doesn't show as an option on your linode account?
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21:52<likolilo>that paypal doesn't show as an option on your linode account?
21:52<likolilo>no paypal on my account
21:52<likolilo>Please help me
21:52<likolilo>i wanna buy Vps
21:52<likolilo>From your website
21:52<millisa>what do you see when you click on 'account' then 'make a payment'?
21:53<likolilo>yeah
21:53<likolilo>no paypal
21:53<warewolf>paypal is not accepted by linode
21:53<likolilo>:(
21:53<arlen>warewolf: yes it is
21:53<likolilo>ok
21:53<warewolf>is it?
21:53<arlen>yup
21:53<millisa>yes
21:53<likolilo>Please
21:53<likolilo>check
21:53<likolilo>not work for me
21:53<likolilo>in my account
21:53<likolilo>:(
21:54<arlen>erik_: was your linode rebooted today? some servers are being moved from dallas 1 to dallas 2. you should have a ticket opened for the migration
21:54<warewolf>likolilo: #linode is mostly a social channel, if you've got a problem with making a payment, you should open a support ticket.
21:54<millisa>What do you see on the 'Account' -> 'Make a Payment' tab?
21:54<erik_>arlen : yes and they are not in dallas
21:54<erik_>one was just rebooted
21:54<arlen>what does the dashboard show?
21:55<likolilo>i make all
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21:55<likolilo>but not paypal
21:55<arlen>likolilo: open a ticket then
21:55<likolilo>:(
21:55<arlen>there's nothing we can do
21:55<likolilo>ok
21:55<likolilo>Thank you
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21:56<dwfreed>my guess is that he doesn't have a valid credit card
21:56<arlen>warewolf: https://blog.linode.com/2016/07/26/paypal-payments/
21:56<warewolf>I wonder how much more fraud that opened linode to when they started accepting paypal
21:57<dwfreed>because of paypal's very strong bias toward buyers, Linode has historically refused to even offer the ability to pay via paypal, to avoid the inevitable abuse that will happen
21:57<dwfreed>the requirement to have a valid credit card on file in order to use paypal mitigates some of that
21:57<erik_>arlen : how can I see if linode initiated the reboot?
21:58<dwfreed>it'll be in the job log for the linode
21:58<warewolf>erik_: last I saw you'd see something like 'Host initiated boot'
21:58<warewolf>in the "job queue"
21:58<arlen>and there will probably be an open ticket about it
21:59<erik_>no ticket
21:59<erik_>all I see is : "Lassie initiated boot"
21:59<warewolf>maybe your VPS crashed then
21:59<warewolf>lassie tries to rescue timmy (your VM) when it gets in trouble.
21:59<dwfreed>that means your Linode died due to something internally, like a kernel panic (or somebody logged in and ran "reboot")
22:00<Ikaros>Mmm, come to think of it, I've had the same issue with mine.
22:00<Ikaros>That only seemed to actually go away once it moved host nodes
22:00<Peng>If the host falls over you can have "Host initiated" and "Lassie initiated" simultaneously
22:00<Peng>!lish
22:00<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
22:00<millisa>you could get on lish and run 'yourlinodesname logview'
22:01<dwfreed>^
22:01<Ikaros>^ not useful in some cases
22:01<millisa>^ once had a dream about bacon
22:01<dwfreed>if it's not useful, then you have a misconfiguration
22:01<Ikaros>Mmmm, bacon...
22:01<dwfreed>note that you need to scroll up after running logview, because the last 100 lines are the current boot
22:02<millisa>should show the last 250 lines from the previous boot before the 100 lines of the current boot
22:02<dwfreed>honestly should just get rid of the 100 lines of the current boot
22:03<dwfreed>that's what screen's for
22:03<Ikaros>dwfreed honestly I pointed the finger at the kernel I was using which was stock Linode kernel, particularly at it insisting on restarting on panic after x seconds which I overrode via sysctl to not attempt it. If it's panicing I want to see that dump. Thankfully, since mine was migrated to an (apparently) older host node to do block storage with, I have not needed to look at it.
22:04<Ikaros>*knock on wood*
22:04<dwfreed>you can always look at the dump using logview
22:04<Ikaros>If it appears in the logs, sure.
22:05<dwfreed>it's printed to the console, which always happens
22:05<Ikaros>I'm not sure what else would simply cause the thing to cut off aside from a panic
22:05<erik_>strange - cant find anything strange in the logs
22:05<Ikaros>I mean heck I'm not going in there and typing 'shutdown' or 'reboot'.
22:05<dwfreed>you're looking at logview, the lish command?
22:06<dwfreed>erik_: ^
22:06<erik_>no was just looking through the /log/syslog etc
22:06<dwfreed>those are almost never useful in a panic situation
22:06<Ikaros>He means to log into LiSH and issue the logview command for it
22:07<dwfreed>Ikaros: you could always try netconsole :)
22:07<Ikaros>dwfreed: Well like I mentioned before, the move to another host node seems to have inadvertently gotten rid of whatever the heck the problem was (though the intention was to enable block storage)
22:08<Peng>Ikaros: I don't suppose you changed kernel versions when moving?
22:08<Ikaros>Nah Peng. It was the same after migration.
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22:08<Ikaros>So I'm baffled, frankly. Not like I changed anything runtime to cause it, nor set up any software that could somehow trip the kernel up or lock something else up.
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22:09<Ikaros>And the strange absence of any sort of dump is just...weird.
22:09<Peng>Bugs? On Linux!?
22:10<Ikaros>But again, knock on wood.
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22:11<Zimsky>who's there
22:11<Zimsky>get the fuck off my property, Ikaros
22:11<Ikaros>It's been fine for nearly 45 days straight now without a problem, but I'm not going to be satisfied until it breaks 52 - the previous uptime achieved before it pulled that crap last time.
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22:12<Peng>Good luck
22:13<Ikaros>...oh joy, and Win10 breaks on my PC somehow. Again. Start Menu no clicky. Taskbar right-click no clicky. *sigh*
22:14<Ikaros>WEll I can't complain really, I had a good day today, that's really the first bad thing to happen all day today.
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22:14<dcraig_>Ikaros, I feel like this happened to my mom
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22:14<Ikaros>And yet more and more I miss 7.
22:19<Zimsky>why don't you use an operating system that isn't terrible
22:20<Ikaros>Like Linux? :P
22:22<Ikaros>I have many valid reasons not to, despite Windows' crappiness overall. Make 100% of my games work on Linux natively and I'll consider it.
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22:25<MrPPS>I manage to get away with using linux for my day-to-day driving, and then steam-stream games from my windows machine when I need gaming
22:25<MrPPS>happy medium for now
22:26<erik_>not getting anywhere in my clues abuot why it restarted - very strange because the server isn't running a lot
22:26<erik_>and running latest ubuntu 16 etc
22:27<erik_>i know for a fact noone else rebooted it unless it was ddosed because im the only one who can
22:28<Ikaros>Oh you'd have other issues if it was ddosed.
22:30<erik_>but yes it looks like a crash of some sort becaus the syslog had a long line of junky characters before the new boot up log lines
22:30<arlen>what did logview show?
22:30<erik_>i feel silly but i couldn't get the lish logview to show
22:31<erik_>i logged in via lish but didn't see how to exec the logview command
22:31<erik_>used the web interface
22:31<arlen>use ssh lish
22:31<arlen>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
22:32<erik_>do I have to use ssh
22:32<erik_>cant use the web interface
22:32<arlen>you can use whichever you want
22:32<arlen>if the web isn't working, try ssh
22:32<erik_>so if I use the web ui what do i run once logged in
22:32<erik_>to run logview
22:33<arlen>linodename logview
22:34<erik_>got it now
22:34<erik_>checking log
22:35<arlen>this will be helpful [22:01:50] dwfreed: note that you need to scroll up after running logview, because the last 100 lines are the current boot
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22:36<erik_>whats this: rcu_sched kthread starved for 64650 jiffies!
22:36<erik_>INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPUINFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=20f/140000000000001/0 softirq=5635404/5635408 fqs=1
22:36<erik_>looks like a cpu stall of some sort?
22:45<erik_>.
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22:48<Peng>That's, um, interesting. I have no idea what it means.
22:48<Peng>You're using a Linode kernel, right? Were you using the most recent version?
22:48<Peng>If so, and no one else here has any ideas, maybe file a support ticket.
22:50<erik_>yes I am using a linode kernel
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22:54<dwfreed>https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt
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23:14<ye4tar>have any one ?
23:15<ye4tar>Official customer service
23:15<millisa>!ask
23:15<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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23:15<millisa>(this isn't 'official' by any means)
23:15<ye4tar>Welcome to Linode! Your Linode account has been activated. Please log into the Linode Manager to get started: https://manager.linode.com/ Follow our getting started guide and other great documentation here: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started For site migrations, server installs, one-off sysadmin tasks and nearly anything else you need, check out our Professional Services team: http://www.linode.com/professional
23:17<arlen>excellent
23:18*rsdehart waits for a question
23:18<ye4tar>i register account and i pay it for verify!
23:18<ye4tar>third time
23:18<rsdehart>do you have a question?
23:19<Zimsky>yes, rs
23:19<Zimsky>rsdehart: why are cakes soft in the middle?
23:19<Zimsky>and why aren't biscuits the same?
23:19<ye4tar>but system tell me unavailable!
23:20<ye4tar>i had pay $5 for verify account ! again and agiain
23:20<arlen>were your other accounts closed?
23:21<ye4tar>system send mail tell me my account had activated
23:21<arlen>ok and when you login to the activated account what happens?
23:22<ye4tar>it it say invalid user name and password
23:23<ye4tar>third time happend !
23:23<arlen>try resetting the password https://manager.linode.com/session/forgot/password
23:24<ye4tar>actually , the system think my account had never register
23:24<ye4tar>so tell me invalid user
23:25<arlen>try using https://manager.linode.com/session/forgot/username
23:25<ye4tar>because i had register same username in system. then i drop in loop!
23:25<Guest1512>yeah
23:25<Guest1512>oh ffs i'm a guest
23:26<ye4tar>i had verify my account wtice
23:26<ye4tar>twice
23:26<ye4tar>the system tell me i am ok
23:26<Peng>What happened to your first two accounts?
23:26<ye4tar>thanks !
23:26<Guest1512>yeah they don't discuss account stuff in here because this is a public community channel
23:27<Guest1512>although if you got kicked that much you're probably doing something sketchy but eyy
23:29<ye4tar>真是一个悲伤的故事
23:29<Guest1512>"
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23:30<Guest1512>"It's a sad story"
23:30<Guest1512>lol
23:30<Guest1512>ok well all the more reason to clear it up with them then, i guess
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23:32<Guest1512>i think i'm just going to stay Guest1512 forever, i feel like a new man
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23:36<arlen>RIP nbrewer
23:37<Zimsky>pretty sure dismemberment is illegal
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23:38<itsasadstory>actually i think this fits
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23:45<ye4tar>let me tell you the best answer!
23:45<ye4tar>a doleful experience == 真是一个悲伤的故事
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23:49<itsasadstory>lol "==" are we setting the value of a doleful experience in python or something
23:49<itsasadstory>there's a better joke to be made here i just can't think of it
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