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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-08-06

---Logopened Sun Aug 06 00:00:42 2017
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02:22<lan>Hi guys
02:22<lan>anyone's here?
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02:23<Zimsky>quite possibly
02:23<lan>Hi zimsky
02:23<lan>how is it going?
02:24<Zimsky>like hitting the NOS on a bus
02:25<lan>lol
02:25<lan>I'm curious about linode service
02:25<Zimsky>aren't we all
02:25<lan>is there any DDos protection?
02:25<lan>lol
02:25<lan>I'm serious
02:25<lan>anyone could answer this please?
02:25<Zimsky>thought your name was lan
02:27<lan>well, it's my name
02:27<lan>any problem huh?
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02:59<dcraig>surely you can't be serious
03:00*dcraig tickles lan and zimsky around a bit with a large pearl perch
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03:02<dcraig>fyi kindone ain't so kind.
03:04<Zimsky>have known this for some time
03:06<FluffyFoxeh>$
03:07*dcraig tickles fluffyfoxeh around a bit with a large jawfish
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03:10<dcraig>foxes don't sleep
03:12<arlen>lan: there's no ddos protection. if it affects other customers they'll null route your ip
03:21<dcraig>/ddos arlen off
03:21<dcraig>whoops
03:22<arlen>now my packets will go through!
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04:23<Zimsky>stop using fucking javascript
04:24<Zimsky>this comment is directed at every dev
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04:50<nate>Why?
04:50<nate>I'd rather not go back to making website's like it's the 90's and everyone uses netscape navigator thank you
04:50<nate>lol
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04:52<Zimsky>nate: you don't need js to make a site look good
04:53<Zimsky>like, at all
04:53<Zimsky>that's why we have the lovely thing called CSS
04:53<nate>Zimsky: CSS does nothing but mostly make shit pretty, JS makes things somewhat more functionally friendly
04:54<Zimsky>depends entirely on the site
04:54<nate>Sure, but in most cases it can make stuff nicer in a variety of ways making use of AJAX and stuff without having to deal with full page refreshes
04:54<Zimsky>I shouldn't need to enable JS for a news or static content site
04:54<nate>well no, people should generally have fallback models at least
04:55<Zimsky>but they /don't/
04:55<Zimsky>also use websocket, not ajax
04:55<nate>but just because you get paranoid and use noscript doesn't mean people should stop using JS -entirely- :P
04:55<Zimsky>yes it does
04:55<Zimsky>also it's not paranoia
04:55<nate>I'm not gonna do websockets on absolutely bare simple shit lol
04:55<Zimsky>good thing I don't use your sites
04:56<Zimsky>many don't relish the idea of arbitrary code execution sending things off to 3rd party tracking sites
04:56<Zimsky>websockets are easy as fuck
04:56<Zimsky>it's actually harder to use ajax
04:56<nate>lol what
04:56<nate>can't be serious
04:57<Zimsky>no, that's lan
04:57<Zimsky>I'm Zimsky
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08:06<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • Linode tends to hide problems to customers. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10943&p=74235#p74235>
08:10<Woet>..?
08:11<Woet>oh there was a page before it
08:11<Woet>that makes more sense
08:13<@jhaas>i did the exact same thing XD
08:16<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • A tale of four Linodes <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8928&p=74238#p74238> || Customer Testimonials • Amazing Service Response times <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9049&p=74237#p74237> || Customer Testimonials • Thanks to John M re: our Linode being blocked by Hotmail <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11641&p=74236#p74236>
08:16<Woet>yea except you're staff and you should know better
08:16<Woet>rep--
08:17<Woet>jhaas: can you ban alex_lw already
08:17<Woet>for some reason he posts in topics from 2015
08:17<Woet>https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9049&p=74237#p74237
08:17<Woet>2012 even..
08:17<@jhaas>:/
08:18<Woet>and they're testimonials at that
08:23<Woet>jhaas: oh, i get it now
08:23<Woet>look at his signature
08:23<Woet>"White label sportsbook
08:23<Woet>Turnkey casino software"
08:26<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I can not SSH in to my server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14974&p=74239#p74239>
08:26<@jhaas>idk about ban, but I'll keep an eye on it
08:26<Woet>i.. ok
08:27<Woet>its quite obvious that he's a spamming account
08:27<Woet>but alright
08:27<Zimsky>maybe it's a she
08:27<Zimsky>ooooooooo
08:28<Woet>you're a she
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08:28<Zimsky>took you long enough to work that out
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08:49<Zimsky>nate is the unreal rainbow warrior of 2014
08:52<nate>so I'm apparently told
08:53<Zimsky>quite possibly the best thing I've read lately
08:53<nate>don't forget the 128 XP home, whatever that is, sounds pretty upper class
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09:05<Zimsky>nate: you were arguing with a bot
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09:07<nate>vice: Is it? That's a pretty impressive bot if so
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09:07<nate>*Vice?
09:11<Zimsky>nate: we live in the age of elementarily functional AI
09:12<Zimsky>it shouldn't come as a surprise for such bots to exist, even on something as meek as IRC
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14:37<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • 100% Disk Space Used <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15062&p=74240#p74240>
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16:07<TAYLORv>Any one else just sitting the migration queue; position 1 of out 1; for an hour or more?
16:07<TAYLORv>s/of out/out of/
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16:11<dwfreed>the queue has certain rules about how parallel it can run; it's possible there are Linodes currently migrating that require a lot of time to complete, holding you up
16:11<dwfreed>You could always contact support who can poke things
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16:12<TAYLORv_>I would expect if there were several already queued before entering it myself, but I have never waited this long before the mirgrations fires off.
16:13<dwfreed>only support can say definitively what the current state of the queue is
16:14<TAYLORv_>I'll update my ticket. Thanks
16:16<TAYLORv_>We'll see if a reply is return in less than 4 hours.
16:22<dwfreed>if it's super important, call them
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16:26<TAYLORv_>If it was, I would. Just depressing at the length of time it takes to get a response to tickets after accustom to the sub 15 minutes days.
16:26<dwfreed>blame the $5 plan
16:27<TAYLORv_>Oh, I have no doubt about that!
16:27<Peng>and the $10 plan
16:27<Peng>and inflation!
16:28<TAYLORv_>It would be nice if the response time was proportional to your purchased resources.
16:29<Peng>That would suck for me
16:29<Peng>:P
16:34<dwfreed>TAYLORv_: the problem with prioritizing high-paying customers is that low-paying customers could effectively get DoSed out of a response
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16:37<Peng>It could be balanced out, somehow.
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16:41<schwa>Linode 1G = 1 core, 1G RAM, 20G disk, 1TB net, 0.1 Supportians
16:42<schwa>(lol I made that number way too large)
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22:57<bobo>where is this?
22:57<dwfreed>The Matrix
22:58<bobo>i want to find a linode service person
22:58<millisa>!ask
22:58<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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22:59<millisa>or don't.
23:00<dwfreed>one of my linbot aliases goes through 5 levels of aliases before it reaches a plain irssi command
23:00<dwfreed>2017-08-07 02:58:58 linask linto $0 ask
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23:00<dwfreed>2017-08-07 02:58:58 linto linsay [to $0 $1-]
23:00<dwfreed>2017-08-07 02:58:58 linsay linbot say #linode
23:00<dwfreed>2017-08-07 02:58:58 linbot nmsg -TrekWebOFTC linbot
23:00<dwfreed>2017-08-07 02:59:43 NMSG ^MSG
23:01<arlen>>.<
23:01<dwfreed>and then to is a linbot alias
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23:38*dcraig takes his linode in for annual service
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23:39<lan>Hello!
23:39<dcraig>sup
23:39<arlen>yo
23:39<lan>Hi guys!
23:40<arlen>hi
23:40<lan>I'd like to ask about linode vps
23:40<arlen>go ahead
23:40<lan>Do you know linode has ddos protection?
23:40<arlen>they don't
23:40<arlen>they'll null route your ip if it starts affecting others
23:40<nate>lan: Most VPS providers don't, DDoS mitigation is pricy
23:41<lan>alibaba cloud has this feature
23:41<arlen>cool
23:41<arlen>you could use a service like cloudflare while using linode
23:42<lan>I see
23:42<lan>thank you
23:42<nate>lan: Going based on the description they use of their "Anti-DDoS", pretty sure their DDoS protection is barely protection (they're claiming they use an ECS cluster to protect against it, which means they're routing traffic through ECS clusters...?)
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23:45<Zimsky>if you put arlen in front of your service, arlen will hand-filter out all the bad stuff
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23:45<arlen>^
23:46<arlen>I can be pricey though
23:47<Zimsky>yeah you gotta give him a mango or something
23:47<Zimsky>it's not expensive
23:49*rsdehart null routes arlen
23:49*arlen mitigates
23:51<millisa>mitigoats?
23:52<arlen>sure
23:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • The Supply and Demand Status of Plastic Cup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15063&p=74241#p74241>
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