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01:01<Andrew>Any staff here?
01:01<@sjacobs>Andrew: what's up?
01:01<Andrew>ticket #8545457
01:02<Andrew>have been waiting for account activation for a long time
01:02<Woet>!community
01:02<linbot>The staff may or may not be around but if you tell us your problem then someone in here may be able to help
01:02<Woet>damn, too late
01:02<Woet>Andrew: define "a long time"
01:02<Woet>because if it's < 12 hours, its not
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01:02<Andrew>12 hours!!?
01:03<Andrew>how it can be such a long time for fraud prevention?
01:03<Woet>yes, that's what I would consider a long time for most support companies
01:03<Woet>have you never contacted a company ever?
01:03<Woet>try contacting your ISP, it'll be 3-4 days at best
01:03<Andrew>well
01:03<Andrew>i'm not sure what country you are in
01:03<Woet>taiwan
01:03<Andrew>but I'm in Taiwan, our ISP respond within an hour
01:04<MrPPS>Andrew: it can be less than that, but depends on staff availability, how quickly the provided information can be verified, etc.
01:04<MrPPS>Once done, you'll be set to go, and most "normal" support tickets are far quicker responses
01:04<MrPPS>it's just the initial verification that tends to take a long time
01:04<Woet>lucky you
01:05<MrPPS>Historically, ticket response times within 10-30 minutes are pretty normal, and it has been as little as 5 minutes
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01:05<Andrew>cause ';m evaluating the dev environment for the team
01:05<Andrew>we use Softlayer for production
01:05<Andrew>and now have been tested Vultr, DigitalOcean, and even Interoute
01:06<Andrew>no one take more than an hour for account activation...........
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01:07<MrPPS>Hold off your assessment of the service until after it's activated :) The service Linode provides is an excellent one
01:07<MrPPS>and I think you'll be happy with the performance
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01:08<Andrew>anyway thanks everyone, the ticket has been solved
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03:27<jaman>live chat very horbel
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03:29<Zimsky>that's what I've been saying all these years!
03:29<Zimsky>it's horbel as fk
03:30<hawk>I will say, though, that the Linode web site could be more clear regarding what is what when you look at their "contact us" page.
03:31<retro|blah>Who is horbel and what did they do?
03:31<Zimsky>you are horbel
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03:54<Deepak>hi
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03:55<Zimsky>bye
03:58<BDIkaros>Not to sound ilke a broken record, but god that's annoying when people do that.
04:01<Zimsky>you mean the part where someone does something relatively minor and you then complain about it with 40x more characters?
04:01<Zimsky>yeah it is
04:03<BDIkaros>I could just as easily say you annoy me. But I'd be lying.
04:03<Zimsky>you can say whatever you like. I'm pointing out the irony
04:04*BDIkaros shrugs
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05:20<retro|blah>!mtr-fremont 8.8.8.8
05:20<linbot>retro|blah: Spam Eating Monkey Realtime Reputation Service
05:20<retro|blah>FINE THEN
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05:23<Peng>retro|blah: Experiencing problems?
05:26<retro|blah>I'm good now :)
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05:36<tahir>hi
05:36<tahir>can any one help me on regarding the new domain adding
05:36<tahir>i am normally using the cpanel
05:36<tahir>is there any option for cpanel
05:37<@sjacobs>linodes do not come with cpanel installed. you are more than welcome to install it yourself, though.
05:37<@sjacobs>https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/ALD/Installation+Guide
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05:37<@sjacobs>it is just a one liner on a new CentOS server and you would need to purchase a license.
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05:39<tahir>linode team could not install for me
05:39<tahir>the cpanel
05:39<tahir>i seen the documentation
05:40<tahir>but whole process my be mistake by me
05:40<@sjacobs>we can if you enroll in Linode Managed. https://www.linode.com/managed
05:40<@sjacobs>it is $100 per linode on the account.
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05:41<tahir>it is extra charge
05:41<tahir>?
05:41<tahir>i already purchase the basic account
05:41<@sjacobs>that page describes the additional services that come with it.
05:42<@sjacobs>if you only want cPanel, then installing it yourself would be the way to go.
05:42<tahir>yes currently i need only cpanel
05:45<@sjacobs>i think there is a trial period (15 days i think) for cPanel. steps would be 1) create a CentOS linode 2) run the one-liner on the install page from the linode's terminal
05:49<millisa>i think they want you to disable NM before the 1 liner?
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05:56<tahir>can you help me
05:56<arlen>!cpanel
05:56<tahir>i need to understand the server
05:56<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
05:56<tahir>i am new and wants some video to understanding the server process and functionalities
05:56<tahir>etc
05:57<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
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06:04<@sjacobs>millisa: i started the installer with NetworkManager active and it seems to be moving along just fine.
06:05<tahir>i am trying to signup in the manged
06:05<tahir>but i am already manged signin there
06:05<tahir>now what i need next
06:05<tahir>and how much i need to charge for this access
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06:08<tahir>i also seen $4 and $5 invoices in my account
06:08<tahir>but there is not description for the inovices
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06:10<millisa>sjacobs: maybe the script does it? they list it as a 'must' down in the 'Utilites' section of this table: https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/64Docs/Installation+Guide+-+System+Requirements
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06:11<tahir>capnel software is paid?
06:12<tahir>it is too much cost
06:12<tahir>not free
06:13<millisa>you can get a subscription on your own if you want; buycpanel.net has a few specials where you can get it for ~$14-15/month
06:14<millisa>er, I guess they go by 'buycpanel.com' now.
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06:33<tahir>which name server i can use
06:33<tahir>for godaddy
06:33<tahir>account
06:33<grawity>doesn't godaddy provide their own?
06:33<grawity>and so does linode
06:34<tahir>I wants to change the lindoe
06:35<tahir>server name servers
06:35<tahir>there are already show godaddy name servers in default
06:35<tahir>but i need to update my linode name servers
06:37<tahir>how can
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06:40<tahir>there
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07:04<poky>Can someone help me with clamscan syntax? I can't understand " --scan-archive[=yes(*)/no]" How to use this? I dont want to scan archives
07:06<grawity>brackets mean the [=yes/no] part is optional, and I think it's saying that =yes is the default if not specified
07:06<grawity>so you can say --scan-archive, --scan-archive=yes, or --scan-archive=no
07:09<poky>Thanks. So I want to save the result in a file. So it says ----------- --log=FILE -l FILE. Give an example please
07:09<poky>Thank
07:10<grawity>that's already an example though
07:13<poky>lol.
07:13<poky>Is this right? $ clamscan -r -i --scan-archive=no --log=report.log -l ./ ????
07:15<grawity>syntactically, seems okay
07:17<poky>Cool
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07:20<poky>How can I make clamscan to run until it is finished. It should run one scan after I logout too...
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10:20<webhostcaetan>hello
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10:21<HoopyCat>awoo
10:21<JamesTK>choo
10:21<JamesTK>pycat
10:25<webhostcaetan>hello
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10:30<chmod_777>webhostcaetan: go ahead and ask your question
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10:33<HoopyCat>or just hang out, we're cool
10:39<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • new Linode Manager <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15001&p=74334#p74334>
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11:29<gbit>I think you should have access to see all graphs on the same screen on the new "cloud" panel. It just make it easier to find same time spikes..
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11:31<gbit>I found the feedback email :)
11:31<Zimsky>: )
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11:38<Tejas>Hello all I want to know that billing cycle of linode is 30 days or 28 days?
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11:40<Zimsky>it's hourly
11:40<Zimsky>or you could not hang around for an answer
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11:40<Zimsky>t to the w a t
11:41<hawk>Well, you pay per hour, but you definitely don't get an invoice every hour
11:44<Eugene>Every day Im Linodin'
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12:10<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • new Linode Manager <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15001&p=74335#p74335>
12:10<Zimsky>Eugene: why
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13:05<GlennS>Linode people: I have created a pull request adding Linode support to NixOps. https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/pull/721
13:06<GlennS>Would welcome any feedback / suggestions on there about how I might do it better.
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13:38<nisthar>Hi
13:38<nisthar>Guys
13:38<nisthar>How hard is it to host a node app on linode?
13:38<nisthar>I can't find a good tutorial
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13:40<relidy>It's the same as hosting it on any Linux machine.
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13:48<nisthar>@relidy Thanks.
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15:38<Ronald>I need support by new account with debit card please
15:38<dzho>!to Ronald ops
15:38<linbot>Ronald: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
15:38<dzho>!to Ronald contact
15:38<linbot>Ronald: https://www.linode.com/contact
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15:39<dzho>Ronald: depending on the details of the card and account, they sometimes take some time to confirm
15:39<dzho>if it's been less than a day, you might just wait. Or call. Or email them.
15:39<Ronald>Thank's I 'll wait then
15:39<dzho>don't give any details here though, this is a public channel.
15:40<dzho>:-)
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16:39<Tea>Anyone used this dingus to get letsencrypt certs using the Linode API? https://github.com/ryannoblett/linode-hook I'm consistently getting 'DomainID not found' and I feel clueless.
16:41<Zimsky>what or who is the dingus in this equation?
16:42<Tea>https://github.com/ryannoblett/linode-hook/blob/master/linode-hook This - it's a hook for dehydrated that handles the API calls during a dns-01 validation for an LE cert
16:42<Tea>tbh I don't know if this is an API problem or an issue with the script, or a stupid on my part
16:43<dzho>Tea: I haven't done this exact thing, but I've played around with both acme and with the linode API a little bit. This might be the point at which you copy and paste stuff into a pastebin somewhere, drop the links here, and let folks look it over.
16:44<Peng>Are you entering the right DomainID?
16:44<Tea>I *assume* the script tries to grab one, which at that point it'll be a script problem
16:44<Peng>Also... if this one totally doesn't work, you could try a different client, like https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh or https://github.com/srvrco/getssl
16:45<Peng>Or rip a different client's Linode plugin
16:45<Peng>Tea: Maybe. I don't know.
16:45<Peng> if [ ".$DOMAIN_ID" != "." ]
16:45<Tea>Yeah that's fair enough, I was just hoping someone was around who was using the same hook - stab in the dark really
16:46<Tea>acme.sh is probably good
16:46<Zimsky>write a client?
16:46<Peng>DOMAIN_ID=`list_domains jq ".DATA[] | select(.DOMAIN==\"$DOMAIN\") | .DOMAINID"`
16:46<Peng>Huh
16:47<Tea>Yeah acme.sh seems significantly less cruddy
16:47<Tea>I'll give that a poke - thanks for the suggestions
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16:49<dkelektronik>Hi
16:49<dkelektronik>Is there anyone
16:50*dkelektronik slaps caker around a bit with a large fishbot
16:50<Zimsky>unless this is 'I Am Legend', probably
16:50<dzho>!to dkelektronik ask
16:50<linbot>dkelektronik: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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19:11<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • OpenVPN Client IP on LAN <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15112&p=74336#p74336>
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19:36<jaguar>Hi
19:36<jaguar>Anyone there?
19:37<synfinatic>maybe
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19:40<jaguar>i activated new account and add my paymetns details and still shows > Account Limit reached. You must complete your signup.
19:41<jaguar>any suggestions?
19:41<synfinatic>i don't know that one
19:41<synfinatic>!support
19:41<synfinatic>oh, linbot you suck
19:42<jaguar>what
19:42<synfinatic>!contact
19:42<linbot>https://www.linode.com/contact
19:43<jaguar>i already submitted a ticket
19:43<jaguar>about 5 hours
19:44<synfinatic>it can take a while depending on how busy they are
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21:23<Lee>ssh -f joe@12.34.56.78 -L 2000:12.34.56.78:80 -N
21:24<Lee>when I linux ssh tunnel to another linux system
21:24<Lee>say port 80 on the remote machine.
21:25<Lee>then on the local linux machine I use a browser elinks 127.0.0.1:2000, it asks for a password
21:25<Lee>the remote machine is apache, not user/password required on /webroot/
21:25<Lee>its just index.html
21:26<FluffyFoxeh>that would be due to the configuration of Apache on the remote machine
21:26<FluffyFoxeh>won't be anything to do with the SSH tunnel
21:26<Lee>on a windows machine, I use putty and I add just port 2000 and 127.0.0.1:80 and it works fine. it just shows the remote index.html page
21:27<FluffyFoxeh>have you tried -L 2000:127.0.0.1:80 on Linux?
21:27<Lee>IT SAYS: http://127.0.0.1:3456 is requesting your username and password. The site says: “.”
21:28<Lee>It looks like what you see when you open a password protected folder
21:28<FluffyFoxeh>If Apache is configured to require a password from non-localhost, then you need to connect using the loopback address, not the external interface address
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21:29<FluffyFoxeh>i.e. what I said in my previous message. use 127.0.0.1 as the remote address, not 12.34.56.78
21:29<FluffyFoxeh>(I am referring to the argument to -L)
21:30<Lee>Lovely. It works. My memory was rusty. ssh -f joe@12.34.56.78 -L 2000:127.0.0.1:80 -N
21:30<FluffyFoxeh>Good :)
21:33<Lee>so what do you think of this guy's instructions: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
21:35<FluffyFoxeh>I think one should always make a point of understanding the commands they run; the purpose and function of every argument
21:36<FluffyFoxeh>granted, in this case that still may not directly lead you to the problem
21:37<FluffyFoxeh>basically, the host in the -L argument is the remote host from the perspective of the remote server
21:37<FluffyFoxeh>from the perspective of the server you're connecting to over SSH
21:37<FluffyFoxeh>and if you want apache to see that you're connecting from localhost, you have to connect via localhost
21:39<Lee>That's strange, google results all show instructions that match my original try:
21:39<Lee>ssh -f joe@12.34.56.78 -L 2000:12.34.56.78:80 -N
21:39<Lee>where 12.34.56.78 is the remote machine
21:40<Lee>so -f joe@remote.com is just to login and passwd
21:40<FluffyFoxeh>that will work, but not if you need the packets to appear to originate from localhost
21:40<FluffyFoxeh>-f is a boolean argument actually, you could put it anywhere
21:41<FluffyFoxeh>my usual formula is "ssh -fNL local:destination_host:remote user@ssh.server"
21:41<Lee>you know, I looked at my very old notes, so this worked for me at one point many years ago.
21:43<FluffyFoxeh>using the external address is perfectly valid but it is not the same as using 127.0.0.1
21:43<Lee>so your example, ssh -fNL 3000:127.0.0.1:80 joe@linux.com
21:43<FluffyFoxeh>yep
21:45<FluffyFoxeh>-f makes it go into the background (so it doesn't run forever in your terminal) and -N makes it not execute a shell as it would usually do
21:47<Lee>the full command shows up in ps ax
21:47<Lee>is it sleeping in the background?
21:49<FluffyFoxeh>it's a background process, not attached to any terminal. it may or may not be sleeping
21:49<Lee>Oh, I see: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/set-up-ssh-tunneling-on-a-linux-unix-bsd-server-to-bypass-nat/
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22:03<Lee>so I run iptraf on the remote system and it does shows the address in -L
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23:36<HoopyCat>Alexa, play some Pacific Albacore
23:39<Cromulent>if I used the term micro blog to describe a website would people think you meant something like twitter with very short text posts or a blog that was designed with the barest minimum of back end code / html / css / js for speed and clarity? Not sure what to call my little project
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23:41<Peng>Twitter
23:42<Peng>Anyone who's not a nerd wouldn't know the term microblog, though.
23:42<Peng>Then again anyone who's not a nerd doesn't look into blogging software...
23:45<Cromulent>Peng: thing is I'm learning to program in Go at the moment and I'm also reading about SEO stuff - I thought a good project would be an open source blog that tooks some best practices from the SEO world as well as the DevOps world and combined them to make a really small and efficient blogging platform
23:46<Cromulent>so using the absolute bare minimum of code to make a blog
23:49<FluffyFoxeh>just an observation, you're starting to throw around words like SEO and DevOps and I think you should lay off the kool-aid
23:49<FluffyFoxeh>:p
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23:50<FluffyFoxeh>before you get irreversible brain damage and start using words like these https://www.goinnovate.xyz/
23:50<FluffyFoxeh>CONSTRUCTIVE
23:50<FluffyFoxeh>DISRUPTION
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23:50<Cromulent>FluffyFoxeh: very hard to describe what I am thinking in a way that other people could understand without using buzz words - I could have said using things like AWS Code Pipeline but not everyone knows what that is
23:50<FluffyFoxeh>EXPONENTIAL TECHNOLOGY
23:51<millisa>devseops
23:51<FluffyFoxeh>oh my favourite, this one takes the cake and I'd have laughed my ass off if I wasn't dying inside
23:51<FluffyFoxeh>"fog computing"
23:51<FluffyFoxeh>http://www.exponentials.xyz/posts/the-roles-of-cloud-computing-and-fog-computing-in-the-internet-of-things-revolut-6205388
23:51<FluffyFoxeh>forget the cloud. the future is fog
23:52<Cromulent>FluffyFoxeh: also I'm not sure what the problem is with SEO - it is just a term which describes your intention
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23:53<FluffyFoxeh>Cromulent: eh, nothing really. it's just been co-opted a fair bit by snake oil salesmen
23:53<FluffyFoxeh>so it's hard to tell what it means
23:55<Cromulent>true up until a few days ago I didn't really care about SEO but I just started reading The Art of SEO and it is a really interesting book
23:56<Cromulent>I like the idea of looking at analytics then doing A/B testing to see which is best and then optimising based on the results of A/B testing
23:56<FluffyFoxeh>that sounds empirical and practical
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