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00:00<Lee>my fellow coworker loves nagios
00:00<Lee>he gets 300 emails a day from it.
00:00<Lee>hehe
00:01<Lee>so many health-checkers so little time
00:02<Lee>your help is greatly appreciated, dont think otherwise
00:02<Lee>I'm just rude, but not as much as zimsky
00:03<Zimsky>sod off
00:03<Lee>what's sod off?
00:06<Peng>https://68.media.tumblr.com/1cb3e30df17c04b2b207ea1c983c3884/tumblr_n0c5ywsUYn1ryp534o3_250.gif
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00:16<Zimsky>Pong pls go
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00:34<Peng>Zimsky: https://dataportdoll.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/1389923434746.jpg
00:36<Zimsky>this is why WWII happened
00:36<Lee>peng=japanese?
00:38<Lee>no, this cause WWII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTO6fAJf1GM
00:41<Peng>Zimsky: http://www.capsulecomputers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Sakura-Trick-Episode-3-Screenshot-03.png
00:42<Zimsky>no Lee, pong is just making a bit of a pong
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00:45<Lee>so Peng=/= Chinese/Japanese and Zimsky =/= Jewish/Polish-Jew/Russian-Jew
00:45<Peng>I'm American.
00:45<Peng>It's short for Penguin.
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00:45<MrPPS>Lee: Oh, not trying to sell, just letting you know it can do what you're after :)
00:45<Peng>I didn't think it through
00:45<MrPPS>Use whatever you like :P doesn't have to restart btw - that was just the action in that example
00:46<Zimsky>I am also American
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00:46<Lee>I'm 70 miles north of linode offices
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00:47<Lee>A strange and smelly planet called New Jersey
00:48<Zimsky>I'm a*70+b miles in N direction from linode orifices
00:48<Lee>While on I95 I often have to pull over because my eyes water so badly I cant drive
00:50<Lee>( thanks MrPPS )
00:52<Zimsky>lettuce thank MrPPS for gracing us with his presents
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00:52<MrPPS>all of my presents; it's christmas time
00:52<Zimsky>it's eye ronnick
00:52<MrPPS>mr. ronnick to you
00:53<Zimsky>eye spay weth meee lettle aye, a lotto begoorning with tsee
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00:54<Peng>Changing anime franchises...
00:54<Peng>Americans: http://pa1.narvii.com/6202/b836ab8e0438aedb673790668b70d39358415161_hq.gif
00:54<Zimsky>is it a picture of a burger
00:55<FluffyFoxeh>guns
00:55<FluffyFoxeh>Peng: I don't understand
00:55<Peng>No one does
00:56<Lee>and if they both fire at once....
00:59<Lee>I can't find it now but there is a pic floating around of a bunch of terriorists pointing rocket launchers AROUND a victim in a SMALL BOAT
01:16<Peng>Meanwhile in the domain name industry, the largest new gTLD .xyz just lost half its numbers. When you sell domains super cheap for hte first year few people renew. https://ntldstats.com/tld/xyz
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01:30<Lee>.xyz is not that new
01:31<Zimsky>most of them still suck
01:33<FluffyFoxeh>hahaha Peng
01:34<FluffyFoxeh>serves them right. fuck their marketing
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02:13<brent>hi
02:13<brent>i am interested in learning more about linode
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02:20<rsdehart>must not have been that interested
02:20<rsdehart>You guys should put some sort of information repository somewhere public so people don't have to come into irc and say "tell me everything about your business"
02:21<rsdehart>I don't know how it would work. Maybe a sign at the post office
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03:52<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Quotas problem on CentOS 6.2 64bit <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8294&p=74357#p74357>
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04:18<sakul>hai
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04:18<millisa>greetings
04:18<millisa>or not.
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04:30<Zimsky>greeting people is
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04:44<Guest3456>Hi, I have at present I have linode 2GB. I want exact replication of 2GB on another new lionde which will be Linode 1GB. Will I be able to do it with clone feature of Linode ? The target Linode has enough diskspace
04:47<ponas>cloning should do the trick, yeah. might need to shutdown the 2GB so it doesn't change during cloning
04:51<Guest3456>Thanks @Ponas. I appreciate your help
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05:12<samsonle1809>I have just recived the email "Linode ID Verification" and I sent an image of the front and back of the credit card via unique submit link. Please tell me: how long to Linode Team review my account?
05:14<BerlinerPlatz>normally, it's very fast...
05:15<BerlinerPlatz>for me one or two hours
05:15<samsonle1809>Thanks for your reply :)
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05:19<nate>just understand it may take longer, sometimes it's short, sometimes it takes a while
05:19<samsonle1809>@BerlinerPlatz: Do I have to submit an image of my Identity Card?
05:19<nate>samsonle1809: If theyt asked you to then you should, yes
05:19<Zimsky>just follow the linode email
05:20<samsonle1809>Thank you!
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06:31<Lee>my thick skull
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06:47<je>hi What product should I use for WordPress, which has about 3,000 visitors a day and a cron job for every minute? I am currently testing a $ 5 package and I have 60 megabytes of free memory without cron jobs.
06:49<ponas>maybe you should go for the 2GB one so you have more room to grow + can utilize the extra RAM for caching
06:50<ponas>though 1GB should be okay, you might be interpreting the memory usage wrong: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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06:51<ponas>tldr; you should look at "available", not "free"
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06:53<je>thanm you, ponas
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07:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Network performance are terrible and worsened over the last time... <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14908&p=74358#p74358>
07:53<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • iPhone Linode App <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15119&p=74359#p74359>
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08:06<Johannes>Hey
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08:07<Johannes>I need to know where I can see the pricing of the Extras before I buy - e.g. Extra SDD space/ Extra IP/ Extra Memory to my chosen model / What is the cot of backup ? I cannot find that info on your prices on the web
08:08<Zimsky>uh, https://www.linode.com/backups
08:08<Zimsky>there's no such thing as "extras" - you choose the plan which suits your use case
08:09<grawity>most of those extras are not sold at all
08:10<grawity>additional storage will be a future service
08:10<grawity>but currently, just like memory upgrades, you need a full plan upgrade
08:10<grawity>IP addresses are...
08:10<grawity>!ips
08:10<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
08:11<grawity>and the backup costs are at https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-backup-service
08:11<Johannes>That is not true, I have linodes from before 2010-01-01 and pay for backup, extra sdd and extra ip's on them but i need the pricelist
08:13<Zimsky>okay, but they're not a thing today
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08:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Network performance are terrible and worsened over the last time... <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14908&p=74361#p74361> || Email/SMTP Related Forum • One Linode, one IP, two domains for two different email server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15118&p=74360#p74360>
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10:15<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
10:19<Zimsky>except when you're in dallas
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10:27<nate>hm I didn't even think of that, how is the dallas DC holding up?
10:29<dwfreed>just fine
10:29<HoopyCat>aside from the Cox issue on August 22, apparently fine af
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10:34<hawk>http://i.imgur.com/tnF1ejQ.jpg I'm sure it'll be fine
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10:37<Numan>hey
10:37<Numan>are there anyone in staff=?
10:37<Zimsky>probably
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10:38<Numan>who?
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10:46<Landmine>Good morning all!
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11:01<chmod_777>good morning
11:07<Landmine>Any one here clever with Postfix? Have a relaying issue that I cant figure out. IPv6 wont relay.
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11:13<gparent>It helps if you explain the issue.
11:14<gparent>Preferably with logs, configs, what kind of mail you're trying to send, etc.
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11:21<Landmine>I'm able to relay messages via IPv4 however IPv6 gets an error 4.7.1
11:21<Landmine>main.cf - https://pastebin.com/E313wcEq
11:22<Landmine>The domain returns the correct IPv4 and IPv6 addresses so I'm fairly sure the domain is setup correctly.
11:23<hawk>Does the text indicate what specifically caused them to answer with 471?
11:23<hawk>Probably some kind of antispam/whatever, is my guess.
11:25<Landmine>The error on the client is "Client does not have permission to submit mail to this server. The server response was: 4.7.1"
11:25<dwfreed>I'm pretty sure you're an open relay
11:25<Landmine>However, if I turn off IPv6 on the client it will work just fine.
11:26<Landmine>It is an open relay with a weird authentication, the from sender address.
11:26<dwfreed>that's not a good method
11:27<Landmine>Agreed.
11:32<Landmine>However I was able to get my boss to agree to changing the email addresses to more complex names, such as: node-eb4359c0-380e-4327-a213-432dcda2e854@domain.com
11:34<HoopyCat>Landmine: so is the message being bounced when your server tries to relay it to the next server, or is it rejecting during the submission process from the client to your server?
11:36<HoopyCat>Landmine: mm, looks like mynetworks includes the entire IPv4 internet (0.0.0.0/0) but not any IPv6 internet ([::]/0)... which, if you're aiming to be an open(*) relay, would be a difference between the two
11:36<Landmine>Client to Server
11:36<Landmine>I think that is it! Let me try that. Thank you HoopyCat.
11:36<hawk>Ah, there you then
11:37<Landmine>That was it.
11:37<Landmine>So obvious!
11:38<Landmine>Thanks all, I'm always amazing how helpful people are.
11:38<Landmine>amazing = amazed
11:38<Landmine>BRB Turning caffeine into text
11:39<dzho>(*) being an open relay not advised
11:40<HoopyCat>helpfulness level: "oh! move the gun 5 degrees to the left for a clean shot at your foot" =^.^=
11:41<dzho>< Landmine> hey folks how do I get my server off all these blacklists?
11:42<dzho>security through obscurity might give this some legs though
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11:48<anachak>Hi
11:48<anachak>Is it possible to use 2nd ip and configured on interface eth1 ?
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11:52<salaria>Hi
11:52<salaria>Looking for help on an issue with apache.
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11:54<salaria>[Mon Aug 28 12:48:55.431953 2017] [proxy:error] [pid 11845] (32)Broken pipe: [client Backend1] AH01084: pass request body failed to Backend1 [Mon Aug 28 12:48:55.432052 2017] [proxy_http:error] [pid 11845] [client Backend1] AH01097: pass request body failed to Backend1
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12:10<Landmine>Security through obscurity, I do love that saying.
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13:04<ajj>Hey everyone, quick question hoping someone might point me in the right direction or to just head to support?
13:04<ajj>I'm playing around with an apache server, it was working fine, I've done something and now php comes through as comments
13:05<ajj>I've got a backup, I just wasn't sure if there's something obvious I'm missing that isn't mod rewrite, httpd.conf?
13:07<Cajs>ajj: I presume you're using .php as your extension?
13:08<ajj>I am
13:08<ajj>I think I'm more concerned at my ineptitude fixing it making things worse later - I should probably just restore from my backup and try again
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14:17<Cromulent>I've got pingdom monitoring my main blog and the average response time is about 800ms - does that sound reasonable or should I work a bit harder to improve the speed of my sites? I mean more speed is never a bad thing but if it takes me a long time to acheive I could spend my time on other things instead
14:21<Woet>https://blog.gigaspaces.com/amazon-found-every-100ms-of-latency-cost-them-1-in-sales/
14:22<Cromulent>luckily I'm not trying to sell anything :) But I see your point - I'll look into some caching solutions and consider a CDN I guess
14:23<dwfreed>"A broker could lose $4 million in revenues per millisecond if their electronic trading platform is 5 milliseconds behind the competition."
14:23<dwfreed>fun fact: most high-frequency trading platforms run Gentoo for that reason
14:24<grawity>not QNX/RTOS/whatever?
14:24<Woet>windows server 2000?
14:25<Cromulent>I'm surprised by that I always assumed they used things like Solaris or AIX
14:26<HoopyCat>Cromulent: the waterfall in your browser's dev tools can be really handy for finding low-hanging fruit
14:27<dwfreed>it sounds like it's the page itself
14:28<Cromulent>yeah but the problem is my linode is based in the London DC and I have no way of knowing how it performs for US visitors - I'll certainly check out the waterfall though in the dev tools as that is likely to help as well - thanks for the tip
14:28<dwfreed>take whatever response time you get and add 100 to 200 ms, depending on which coast you care about
14:28<dwfreed>100 ms for east coast, 200 for west
14:31<Cromulent>hmm I'm getting 648ms load time in the profiling tool in chrome after completely clearing the browser cache
14:31<Cromulent>oh 145.9ms of that is idle time
14:32<Cromulent>doesn't seem too bad for a website with no caching installed at all
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17:01<matt_>hi, do you offer email server
17:01<matt_>service/
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17:02<@soh>we don't, but you're free to set one up on a Linode! https://www.linode.com/docs/email
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17:19<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Who do you use to host domains? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15116&p=74363#p74363> || General Discussion • Who's a good domain registrar? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=3921&p=74362#p74362>
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17:27<needshelp>Hello, I have a quick question. Is it safe to point a domain to my Linode server instance with an A record using the server's IP or is will it change? Should I map to it via the hostname?
17:27<millisa>linodes keep their ip unless you delete the linode completely
17:27<relidy>needshelp: Your Linode IP will not change on its own. It's perfectly safe to use the IP.
17:28<needshelp>Thanks, that's great news :D
17:29<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [RESOLVED] Linode name servers not resolving hostnames <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15103&p=74364#p74364>
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18:49<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • API v4 - Getting 504 Gateway Timeout when creating an instance <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15120&p=74365#p74365>
19:30<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • iPhone Linode App <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15119&p=74366#p74366>
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21:22<maybeuser>anyone know how the managed pricing works?
21:22<millisa>it's +$100 for each linode in the account?
21:22<millisa>well, +$100/linode/month
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21:23<maybeuser>so if I choose the 20$ a month plan its 120$ a month?
21:23<millisa>if you just had the single $20 linode in the account, sure
21:25<maybeuser>Im cofused by what you mean by more than one linode
21:25<millisa>if you have two $20 linodes in a managed account it'd be 2x$20 + 2x$100
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21:29<maybeuser>probably cheaper to do profession services on occasion if something goes wrong.
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21:30<Toba_>if you have no technical person already responsible for managing the configuration and app(s) on your servers, and are only doing maintenance if something goes wrong
21:30<Toba_>you are going to have what we call a Bad Time
21:30<Toba_>someday.
21:31<maybeuser>Ill set everything up but if something happens while Im at my 9-5 job I need somone to look into the issue or maybe ill look into it if I have time and pass it on to them. You recommend the managed?
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21:34<Lee>you should call the support phone
21:35<Lee>https://www.linode.com/professional-services/index#quote
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22:07*Zimsky calls the police
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22:11<Eugene>Pffft, Sting is the only interesting one
22:12*Zimsky calls jenny
22:13<Eugene>https://youtu.be/hyj4JFSErrw
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22:20<Lee>I'm calling the fashion police
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22:31<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • One Linode, one IP, two domains for two different email server. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15118&p=74367#p74367>
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