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---Logopened Sat Sep 02 00:00:39 2017
00:00<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Adidas running shoes online <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15143&p=74409#p74409> || Feature Request/Bug Report • New balance 574 womens shoes <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15142&p=74408#p74408> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Jordan retro 5 mens for sale <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15141&p=74407#p74407>
00:05<retro|blah>Some clarification?
00:08<Peng>Some shoes?
00:08<ella>shoes would be nice
00:09<ella>3 inch heel, not much more than 45 degree arch ... wait, this is not the right place to talk about heels!
00:10<ella>I want to pre-empt the mogration from D1 to D2, and I'm still on Xen. If I run that upgrade today, do I have to change ANYTHING in any, as in config, recomplile resources, change kernel etc, or will it, for the most part, assuming "everything is fairly stock" just flip over and run.
00:12<Peng>I believe the disk devices get renamed from /dev/xvdX to /dev/sdX. Linode will automatically fix /etc/fstab, i think.
00:12<Peng>If you have a custom kernel, there might be problems. If it's stock, everything ought to be fine, i think.
00:12<Peng>Then again i've never done it >_>
00:12<Cromulent>it was a long time ago I made the migration but I don't recall having to make any changes
00:13<Cromulent>my suggestion would be to make a snapshot in the linode backup tool before starting the migration
00:13<Cromulent>just incase
00:14<Peng>...Or did i convert one node from Xen to KVM?
00:14<ella>Stock Slackware .. .I keep things clean and I trust LInode to not give me a cracky krernel :)
00:14<Peng>I did!
00:15<ella>OK so, in theory, fstabs will be "automagically" corrected, and thats really the only concern.
00:15<Peng>I believe so.
00:15<Cromulent>yep
00:16<Cromulent>but yeah take a snapshot just to be on the safe side
00:16<Peng>If fstab isn't automatically fixed, you'd just have to boot rescue mode and fix it by hand,.
00:16<Peng>But i'm 99% sure it's automatically fixed.
00:18<Peng>Slackware isn't likely to have issues, is it?
00:18<ella>Slackware has never had issues for me :) It just runs and runs and runs and runs and runs and runs :)
00:21<ella>I should have brought my backup server with me today and done an rsync ... hmm, snapshot ...
00:22<ella>I can't even find a snapshot referance! I'm blind!
00:22<ella>Not literlaly, just figuratively
00:25<ella>Well, I have 2.5 hours left before I get locked out of this building and wifi ... shall I take the risk! OR wait till Monday?
00:26*ella likes Peng, Peng is furniture in this channel!
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00:33<kksfas>hi
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00:33<kksfas>How can i remote access the linode server through window remote desktop connection?
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00:37<nate>kksfas: By literal "Windows RDP"? You don't, because linodes aren't windows. By default for *nix? you don't because none of the *nix distros have any window shell managers installed by default I don't believe
00:37<nate>you would have to install some sorta window shell manager and a VNC app, just keep in mind it's going to be bloaty on the instance
00:46<kksfas>thanks.guys. i just call the custom supportor
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02:20<Zimsky>the custom supportor?
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02:42<FluffyFoxeh>the custom Zimsky
02:48*dcraig tickles fluffyfoxeh around a bit with a large pelagic cod
02:49<dcraig>oh my cod
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03:41<samg>Hey, can someone help me choose a plan. Requirement: 500GB diskspace. 1TB bandwidth. Mostly to store RAW format photos from DSLR. Can I pick a plan that has 40GB diskspace and buy more diskspace? As, I don't need much CPU power...
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03:47<kyhwana>samg: there is a block storage thing, I forget if that's still in beta or not
03:50<samg>kyhwana: Thanks much. I'll take a look at it. I've emailed customer support about this. Let us see how it turns it to be.
03:51<Zimsky>"how it turns out to be"?
03:52<BerlinerPlatz>it turns, that all
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04:09<me>hi theree is somewone is here?
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04:16<Zimsky>hello
04:16<Zimsky>it's me
04:26<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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04:45<Ravi>Hello
04:46<Zimsky>merry christmas
04:48<Cromulent>hi
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05:11<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Implement spam protection in this forum! <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15137&p=74410#p74410>
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05:44<kyhwana>Eugene: that was yesterday!
05:52<Zimsky>that's a bandwagon of dacelousloot
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06:39<Karahan>hello
06:39<Karahan>help me
06:39<millisa>!ask
06:39<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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06:40<Karahan>Thank you for completing your signup!
06:40<Karahan>Your account is currently being reviewed.
06:40<Karahan>You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!
06:40<Karahan>active please
06:40<millisa>Sounds like you need to hang tight
06:40<Karahan>need active.
06:42<nate>You need to wait and be patient
06:42<nate>lol
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07:36<Ravi>Hi, can you one tell me. Why my webmin is not working
07:37<Ravi>https://www.parkpays.com:10000/
07:37<Ravi>This is the ip
07:38<millisa>appears to load a user/pass page for me
07:38<Ravi>is there any way to set right this
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07:44<Ravi>Can any one respond for my query
07:45<millisa>what is your query?
07:46<Ravi>My webmin is not working
07:46<Ravi>https://www.parkpays.com:10000/
07:46<millisa>Again, it loads for me.
07:48<Ravi>is it working, from your end?
07:48<millisa>it loads a webmin login page for me.
07:48<Ravi>whats wrong with my connection
07:49<Ravi>it is not openingup
07:49<Ravi>can i see the screenshot
07:50<millisa>https://imagebin.ca/v/3YzwFdqbv56n
07:52<Ravi>I checked the link. But it is not showing my webmin page
07:52<Cromulent>hmm I might try and install Arch Linux - not sure how it will work under VMWare Workstation 12.5 Pro though
07:54<Ravi>I checked it 2 days back and it's working fine by that time
07:55<Ravi>can you tell me one thing, if i run this command " netstat -an | grep :10000 " Does it impact on my website or not?
07:55<millisa>it shouldn't interfere with things running; it should just list the ports your system is listening on, grepping for port 10000
07:55<Cromulent>wow EV SSL certs have really dropped in price since I last looked into them
07:57<Ravi>what about this, iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 10000 -j ACCEPT service iptables save /etc/init.d/iptables restart
07:58<millisa>i'm assuming you ran something like those 3 commands to open the port
07:59<Ravi>hmm
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08:06<nate>Cromulent: it really depends where you look
08:06<nate>most of the major reseller sites have them cheap-ish compared to straight from the vendor CA's
08:06<Cromulent>nate: I was looking at namecheap which is where I get my domains
08:07<Cromulent>£69 a year is almost worth it just for a random site
08:07<Cromulent>for a business site
08:08<Cromulent>and £131 a year for 3 domains with EV
08:08<Cromulent>last time I looked it was like £500 or something silly
08:10<Cromulent>damn it https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05552573
08:10<Cromulent>I wanted that name :P
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08:17<nate>Can you not simply register it as well?
08:18<nate>US (or well individual states) generally allow multiple-use of a company name depending on trademarks and competative use
08:18<Cromulent>nope all private and public limited companies need a unique name in the UK otherwise it is considered to be "passing off" as another business
08:18<nate>ie; can have the same name company if they're both doing fully different things
08:20<Cromulent>even if you are a sole trader I'm not sure you can use the same name as a private or public limited company as that could confuse clients and customers as to which business they were dealing with - it is basically to stop a website setting up and hoping to trick people into thinking they are actually a different business
08:20<Cromulent>and not just a website any type of business
08:23<nate>that's kinda shitty
08:24<Cromulent>not really - it means you don't need a trademark
08:24<Cromulent>for your business name
08:24<Cromulent>well you do for somethings
08:25<Cromulent>but it adds an extra layer of protection
08:25<nate>Any company of any notable scale to be needed for 'protection' of that sort is prob gonna get a trademark anyways for international locations at least
08:25<Cromulent>true
08:25<nate>pretty rare to really come across two companies of the same exact name doing pretty much the same level of business, not even counting actually trying to do the same exact genre of business
08:26<Cromulent>I guess
08:26<Cromulent>I don't mind it personally and if you get a domain name which is unique then you already have a unique company name most of the time
08:27<Cromulent>it is quite rare to find a company which is registered but doesn't own the associated domain name
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08:35<Cromulent>I really need a new Windows IRC client - this one is rubbish but I don't like mIRC
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08:47<Cromulent>guess I'll use mIRC
08:48<ponas>mIRC is pretty good though
08:48<Cromulent>yeah I just need to get used to it - it does things a bit differently to my current IRC client
08:49<Cromulent>plus I'm not an advanced IRC user so scripting and stuff is a bit useless to me
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08:51<ponas>or you could go the route of running weechat in screen/tmux on your linode, it's pretty useful
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08:51<ponas>there's even a web frontend for it: https://github.com/glowing-bear/glowing-bear
08:51<Cromulent>hmm I never considered that
08:52<ponas>there's no way back once you try, it's like dual monitors
08:52<Cromulent>heh :)
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09:52<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Implement spam protection in this forum! <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15137&p=74411#p74411>
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10:02<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • Tried a competitor <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15144&p=74412#p74412>
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10:30*dzho has tried to offer the example of status.linode.com to my fiber ISP as something they should seek to emulate
10:30<dzho>eg, what went wrong, when, where, for how long, and, most importantly, is it *fixed*
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10:41<nutmix>I have no idea what IRC is, can I ask linode staff questions here?
10:41<nutmix>e.g. how much it costs to add extra IP addresses for a server?
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10:43<ponas>!ips
10:43<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
10:46<Cromulent>nutmix: IRC is where hackers hang out - I know because it said so on TV :P
10:46<nutmix>If we have say 4 linode servers, behind a load balancer, can we use the 4 ips?
10:47<ponas>if you have 4 linodes you will have 4 ipv4s you can use
10:47<ponas>the load balancer has its own ip
10:49<nutmix>would the load balanced servers still be directly acessable publicly if they are behind an LB?
10:50<ponas>yes, unless you configure the firewall otherwise
10:50<nutmix>I see circular route issues unless they have multiple default gateways.
10:51<nutmix>how does traffic to the server either from the LB network or the internet know the route back?
10:51<ponas>the LBs are basically HTTP proxies
10:51<ponas>+ SSL if enabled
10:52<HoopyCat>nutmix: the traffic from the load balancer to the backends appears to originate from the LB... e.g. if the inside edge of the load balancer is 2001:db8::1, all traffic will appear to come from 2001:db8::1
10:59<nutmix>Does the LB set the X-FORWARDED-FOR header?
10:59<Cromulent>HoopyCat: doesn't it use the x-forwarded-for header?
10:59<Cromulent>bah
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11:01<nitin>Hey
11:01<Cromulent>hi
11:01<nitin>i am new to linode
11:01<Cromulent>welcome
11:01<nitin>can i host multiple domain in linode server
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11:01<Peng>Yes
11:01<Cromulent>yes
11:01<nitin>they will all wordpress website
11:01<Cromulent>that'll work fine
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11:02<Cromulent>I have 3 wordpress blogs on my server
11:02<nitin>OMG
11:02<nitin>Nice
11:02<nitin>is there a tutorial for it
11:03<Cromulent>just read about apache or nginx virtual hosts
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11:03<nitin>i am planning to shift from Bluehost shared server to linode
11:03<nitin>is it a right approach
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11:06<Cromulent>nitin: linode is certainly going to be more flexible than a shared host
11:07<dzho>with more power comes more responsibility
11:07<HoopyCat>Cromulent,nutmix: depending on the load balancer in use, and whether it's proxying unencrypted HTTP traffic, X-Forwarded-For could totally be set if configured
11:07<HoopyCat>i don't deal with HTTP traffic very often so i always forget most normal people deal with nothing but HTTP traffic =^.^=
11:08<nitin>one more question
11:09<nitin>is it secure?
11:09<Cromulent>nitin: that is down to you
11:09<nitin>i keep getting malware attack in bluehost server
11:09<Cromulent>you can make it as secure as you like but if you make a mistake it could be very insecure
11:09<nitin>:(
11:10<Cromulent>remember you are the sys admin with Linode
11:10<Cromulent>it is all up to you
11:10<HoopyCat>nitin: if your app is insecure and getting infected by malware on bluehost, it'll probably continue to be infected by malware on linode
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11:10<nitin>its basic wordpress installation with some paid theme
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11:11<nitin>any tutorial how to make linode secure
11:12<Cromulent>first time I've logged into Linkedin in about a year and it still sucks
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11:13<dzho>nitin: you should take a good look through linode.com/docs
11:14<nitin>thanks Guys
11:14<nitin>thank you for all the help
11:14<HoopyCat>how to secure your wordpress site: https://blog.getpelican.com/ *ducks and runs*
11:15*dzho snerks
11:15<dzho>see also https://letsencrypt.org/docs/client-options/
11:16<dzho>and https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh
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11:35<FluffyFoxeh>http://www.fastquake.com/images/who_was_creep.png
11:35<FluffyFoxeh>rofl
11:39<Cromulent>gah linkedin is such a PITA now I remember why I stopped bothering with it
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12:52<ausxxh>one my debian 9.1 that is running for almost two months i just did a 'dmesg', and the screen is filled iwth 'IPVS: creating netns size=2104 id=2529', what is this flusing all other info?
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12:55<Oztc86>Who deals with email abuse? I keep getting metric tons of junk mail from one of your IP's
12:56<Peng>!abuse
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12:56<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
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12:57<Oztc86>Thanks
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14:22<scivola>Where do we send feedback for cloud.linode.com?
14:22<scivola>it says feedback appreciated but doesn't say where :p
14:28<arlen>#linode-next the forums email
14:29<DanielNM>Or a reply in the forum: https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14885
14:30<arlen>that would be the forums
14:32<scivola>thanks
14:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Who do you use to host domains? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15116&p=74414#p74414> || /dev/random • What is network transfer pool? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7163&p=74413#p74413>
14:35<DanielNM>Host domains in /dev/random?
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20:05<warewolf>that's one way to ensure a random domain name.
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22:44<Linguica>is the linode manager having issues
22:45<Linguica>the graphs on 2 of my linodes are 404ing
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23:25<BlooAlien>Howdy. Hey, the linode forum site is refusing connections because it claims the time/date is wrong on my computer. (It's not.) The forum thinks it's two days ago.
23:26<retro|blah>I get NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID, so maybe the cert expired
23:27<BlooAlien>"Your computer is set to 9/2/17, when it should be 8/31/17." ← This is the error I get. Due to HSTS.
23:28<BlooAlien>Firefox won't connect because the server insists on a secure connection, which it won't do as long as their clock is set wrong.
23:29<retro|blah>OK, well, Chrome makes no insinuations about my system clock or the server's system clock being incorrect.
23:33<retro|blah>curl gives this: % curl https://forum.linode.com curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired
23:33<BlooAlien>Huh... Wierd.
23:34<BlooAlien>Well, either way, it makes links like the ones at the top of this channel basically useless at the moment. :(
23:35<BlooAlien>In my case, extra useless, as my browser won't even let me override the block, because their forum server implements HSTS.
23:37<kyhwana>oop, yeah, forum cert is expired here too
23:37<kyhwana>except it's set to expire 2017-09-03
23:37<kyhwana>(which is today)
23:37<kyhwana>Sunday, ‎September ‎3, ‎2017 14:42:37
23:37<BlooAlien>Was looking to maybe switch to linode from DigitalOcean, but wanted to read a couple few items on the forum first. Some things I'd looked up on search.
23:37<kyhwana>(it's currently 15:37)
23:38<BlooAlien>Wonder why they don't use something like Let's Encrypt to automate cert renewal. Isn't that getting to be the normal thing to do these days?
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23:39<Schroeder>I get security certificate errors whenever I try to go to the linode blog
23:39<BlooAlien>@Shcroeder: We were just discussing that very topic. :)
23:39<BlooAlien>I have the same issue with the Forum.
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23:40<BlooAlien>Apparently their cert just expired, and maybe the clock on their server might be wrong, too.
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23:42<BlooAlien>"The certificate expired on September 2, 2017, 8:42 PM. The current time is September 2, 2017, 9:40 PM." ←Wow... According to Firefox, their cert *just* expired. Like an hour ago.
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23:43<BlooAlien>Funny thing tho. Their main website appears to have a different cert, as it's not complaining at all yet.
23:44<trippeh>rip
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23:47<Ikaros>BlooAlien and it probably won't complain for some time - that one is good through August 2019.
23:48<nate>I'm just seeing an expiry notice as well, nothing about a time sync issue
23:52<BlooAlien>Well, other than their certs expiring, how's their service? Pretty decent VPS provider? Reliable?
23:53<Schroeder>been using them for over ten years
23:53<Schroeder>never had an issue that was their fault
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23:54<Schroeder>at most you can say that maybe they could have foreseen the power issues at the Fremont datacenter a few years ago
23:54<BlooAlien>Right on. Good to hear. :)
23:54<Schroeder>but still power to the datacenter is Hurricane Electric's responsibility
23:54<Schroeder>and they were vigilant about following up with the datacenter operator
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23:55<BlooAlien>Guess I'll sign up an account and give 'em a go then. Can't really go wrong with the price chart I looked at. They're way competitively priced.
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