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---Logopened Sat Sep 09 00:00:08 2017
---Daychanged Sat Sep 09 2017
00:00<Peng>Zimsky: Shipping container? Nooope. https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/5uo176/underground_party_bunker/
00:00<ax25>Yes, you can defeat the sun with a hole in the ground.
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00:01<Zimsky>peng, it goes without saying that if you live in a shipping container underground, you aren't a fucking idiot about it, and take measures
00:01<ax25>Op is gonna asphyxiate (if not careful)
00:01<Zimsky>vents, gas detection, cleanliness
00:02<Peng>But the walls still aren't properly designed for side pressure
00:02<Zimsky>fire is just, no
00:02<Zimsky>so chuck some girders on there, peng
00:02<Zimsky>encase the thing in RC
00:03<ax25>Strange, my personal old arse Xen instance rebooted as well. Wonder if they were not having to do the updates early.
00:03<ax25>Zimsky: RC cola?
00:03<Zimsky>reinforced concrete
00:03<ax25>ahhhhh.
00:04<Peng>A tcpdump release embargoed until like 26 September accidentally leaked. :T
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00:04<Zimsky>why was it embargoed
00:05<ax25>Always something. No secrets allowed :-)
00:05<Peng>One or more of the 30 or so CVEs
00:05<Peng>I guess
00:05<ax25>Glad to know you folks are on top of it.
00:05<Zimsky>sounds fun
00:06<ax25>Need to get the boss man to O.K. the moves to KVM. Run KVM on our own stuff, so not sure why he is reluctant.
00:06<Peng>Wait, i way undercounted the CVEs
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00:14<ax25>Holy crap batman. Just looked at the Xen CVE's... https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ - Is Xen second only to Wordpress in CVE generation.
00:15*Peng shrugs
00:15<Peng>Check out a new Android release sometime. :P
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00:15<ax25>Kinda makes me scared of the future of KVM when the focus turns to finding bugs there.
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00:16<ax25>If my phone gets hacked, I am the only one who is pissed off. The VM's I run on the other hand have a few more customers involved :-)
00:17<ax25>Simplistic, but I find comfort in thinking that way these days.
00:18<ax25>Sort of feels like the old days of pitting the vendor of the software against the hardware vendor.
00:19<Peng>https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-7506/Qemu.html :T
00:20<Peng>Can only fit 9 months of vulnerabilities on the first page...
00:22<ax25>I am lucky that most of my users are a bit more sandboxed. Not saying Qemu has a great track record or anything, but just seems a bit less - "oh crap" moments when I read the CVE's for that bit of the stack.
00:23<ax25>Still could be some upcoming hearbleed like nights patching, but I am glad it is calm for now.
00:30<synapt>ax25: To be fair you're comparing a single software to a software whose main CVE listing is 95% plugins :P
00:30<synapt>Mind you I don't care any for wordpress, but it's "core" is semi-stable these days
00:31<synapt>they just do a horrible job promoting sane plugin development
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00:32<ax25>I must admit Wordpress core has been quite stable over the last year or so. Yes, plugins have been the last biting bit. Other than DDOS via pulgin scanning, I have to say Worpress has been quite a bit better.
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00:34<Abdella>Hello.
00:34<ax25>Howdy.
00:35<Abdella>Wired interface :)
00:35<ax25>Wired for sound :-)
00:35<ax25> But, yet, no sound.
00:35<Abdella>Anyhow, Am new to the cloud and I want to try your basicaccount.
00:36<Abdella>How is the management work?
00:36<ax25>Ah, sorry. I am not support for Linode. Just one of the chat hangout folks. I will let them answer if any are on.
00:36<Abdella>I have been using cpanel (shared) formany years.
00:37<Abdella>and to be honest. I want a wordpress running.
00:40<ax25>Linode is a bit more of a low level do it yourself sort of thing. You will be your own sysadmin and manage the server and all that. They have a write-up on how to install Wordpress on your own VM, but there are many steps outside of just setting up Wordpress to consider: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-7506/Qemu.html
00:48<Abdella>Great. Just signed up.
00:48<Abdella>Finger crossed.
00:52<ax25>Might want to uncross your fingers as you will need them for a bit of typing when you spin up your virtual machine :-)
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05:58<aaa>hello sis
05:58<aaa>sir
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07:17<Lee>hello sis, hello sir
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07:34<Garion>hi. I'm looking for a vps where I can run a mailserver and webserver. is a static ipv4 included for the $10/month linode option?
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07:37<Garion>I don't see it mentioned here https://www.linode.com/linodes and I'm not sure it's because it's so obvious that a static ipv4 is included so it doesn't need to be mentioned, or for another reason
07:38<Peng>Yes, a static IPv4 address is included
07:39<Garion>will this ipv4 stay assigned to that specific linode as long as I keep using & paying for it?
07:39<Garion>it sounds obvious but I'd like to be very sure about this :-)
07:39<Peng>Yes.
07:40<Peng>The IPs would only change if you choose to move it to a different data center.
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07:53<Garion>Peng, thanks for the info. What about maintenance reboots? Can I expect my VPS to be rebooted occasionally due to infra maintenance, or won't that happen?
07:54<Peng>It won't happen *often*...
07:54<millisa>hardware *can* fail, so it could happen, sure.
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07:54<Peng>It's impossible to promise that if you have a VPS for ten years, they will never have to reboot for some reason, or the hardware will never fail.
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07:54<Peng>But Linode isn't some kind of cloud provider that reboots people all the time willy-nilly.
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07:54<millisa>i just shutdown my 10 year uptime box last week. I'm still sad.
07:54<Peng>:<
07:54<kyhwana>Servers/services should be cattle, not pets.
07:55<kyhwana>But if you do have pets, make sure you patch them and look after them, otherwise they'll end up phishing paypal creds out of innocent people
07:55<kyhwana>And then your pet will have to be put down.
07:55<Peng>That's exactly what my veterinarian said
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07:59<Garion>Sounds like I'll be using linode then. I looked at other VPS hosts and I must say that the clear pricing of Linode certainly is a positive for me. Amazon pricing for such a single VPS is like eh what? How much am I going to pay?
08:01<millisa>the 'aws lightsail' product is probably the one you'd want to compare against
08:02<Garion>wow, I didn't even manage to find out that that exists :-)
08:02<millisa>it's somewhat new
08:02<millisa>but it is at least easier to understand and equate to folks like linode/DO
08:03<millisa>(Linode is still better)
08:03<Garion>2GB mem for $10 on linode, 1GB on amazon/DO
08:05<Zimsky>there's no guarantees in life
08:05<Zimsky>why do people forget this
08:06<dzho>are you guaranteeing that is true?
08:06<dzho>asking for a friend
08:07<Garion>Signing up now, anyone whose referral code I should use?
08:07<Zimsky>dzho: no
08:07<dzho>!to Garion referral
08:07<linbot>Garion: Looking for a referral code? Use this one for free activation: dbe98bfe8cad58e02d9ea22fc98f446240edc909 (Referral docs: https://www.linode.com/referrals )
08:08<millisa>free activation?
08:08<Peng>You also get free activation if you *don't* use the code
08:08<Zimsky>yeah, otherwise you have to pay $240
08:08<dzho>that's the joke
08:08<dzho>(iirc that's caker's referral code)
08:09<Zimsky>that's fantastic
08:09<Garion>of course, the referral doesn't benefit *me*, it benefits whoever it belongs to.
08:09<dzho>but all y'all are welcome to dig up your codes
08:09<Garion>but since you lot have been so helpful... :-)
08:09<dzho>haha
08:09<Garion>Peng: I can fill in your code if you look it up
08:10<dzho>righteous
08:10<millisa>well, rather than a referral code, check out a doc and get a promo code instead.. https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
08:10<Zimsky>noo
08:10<Zimsky>I want to fill in Peng's code.
08:10<Garion>millisa: yup thanks, that's a different field, I also filled that in
08:10<dzho>referral code, promo code ... why does this have to be so *complicated*
08:10<dzho>is there a deviations-from-pricing API?
08:11<Peng>https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/ is much better. No weird complicated codes :P
08:11*dzho *snerks*
08:11<Garion>the promo code gives me $10 credit, the referral code gives an existing linode user $20 credit. nothing complicated
08:12<Garion>nobody? I'll use that dbe98bfe8cad58e02d9ea22fc98f446240edc909 code then, whoever it belongs to
08:13<Peng>The CEO
08:13<Garion>you can find your personal referral code in your profile
08:13<Garion>give it to me and you'll get $20 credit :-)
08:21<Garion>guess not then!
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11:01<w3xia>I lost my phone, and I enabled 2FA for linode, how to do now?
11:04<Peng>Use one of the scratch codes you wrote down before, or contact Linode. https://www.linode.com/docs/security/linode-manager-security-controls#recovery-procedure
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11:39<dhumed>I'm setting up mysql on an ubuntu distribution. When I run the command "sudo service mysql restart" I get this: Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
11:39<rsdehart>have you done those things?
11:39<dhumed>Any suggestions as to why that's happening?
11:40<grawity>probably because something broke
11:40<grawity>the system log will give more clues as to what
11:40<rsdehart>if you do as it instructs, it will tell you
11:40<dzho>if you have trouble with what you find there, see
11:40<dzho>!to dhumed paste
11:40<linbot>dhumed: Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
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11:59<Zimsky>reeeeeeeeee
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12:03<dzho>Zimsky: wtf was that
12:03<Zimsky>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
12:03<dzho>srsly
12:05<dhumed>For optimizing mysql, which file should be edited? Documentation says /etc/mysql/my.cnf but that doesn't seem right
12:05<Zimsky>the config files
12:05<dhumed>Yeah, I guess I'm asking which config file as there are several
12:14<hawk>dhumed: In what way does it not seem right?
12:15<dhumed>Well in one of the steps it says to edit the max_allowed_packet value in the following file: /etc/mysql/my.cnf
12:15<dhumed>But max_allowed_packet does not exist anywhere in that file
12:16<hawk>because you didn't add it yet, presumably
12:17<hawk>Just put it in the correct section and it should be fine. (correct being mysqld, I presume)
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12:30<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Where is "var/www/html" / Apache hardening <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15184&p=74478#p74478>
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12:40<dhumed>hawk: I did that, I just keep getting this error message when I try to restart mysql https://bpaste.net/show/8111e11ba792
12:40<hawk>dhumed: What does the log say?
12:40<hawk>And what specifically did you write in the config?
12:41<dhumed>hawk: How can I access the log? Sorry this is my first time setting this up
12:41<hawk>dhumed: The message literally told you how to read the log
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12:43<dhumed>hawk: oh oops, didn't realize that was a command they were giving me. Thank you. This is what the log says https://bpaste.net/show/ac1e10a54277
12:44<hawk>did the journalctl command show something more useful?
12:44<hawk>And what did you write in the config?
12:44<hawk>If it worked before, presumably what the log will say is that your new config thing is borked
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12:46<hawk>Should look something like the example in the docs: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/packet-too-large.html
12:47<dhumed>hawk: This is what the journalctl command returned: https://bpaste.net/show/ff30bddfcd23
12:48<dhumed>And I don't think it's worked before, this is my first time setting up a linode and mysql as well
12:50<dhumed>hawk: this is what the my.cnf file looks like after I edited it https://bpaste.net/show/1935c28f3327
12:52<hawk>Ok, so it doesn't actually log to the journal, is there a file then? Somewhere under /var/log/ in that case, presumably?
12:57<dhumed>There are files under /var/log but they don't seem to have any related info
12:58<dhumed>hawk: regarding the documentation again, there's a step that says to "Comment out all lines beginning with key_buffer." while in the my.conf file. There is no such value to comment out
12:59<dzho>presumably "..." indicates configuration you've ellided
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13:03<dhumed>I got rid of the "..." I had in the my.cnf file and was able to run the restart mysql command after that with no error returned https://bpaste.net/show/1935c28f3327
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13:07<HoopyCat>the ellipsis of doom ...
13:09<hawk>wait, you put ... in the actual config file?
13:09<jkwood>He was making a three-dot salad.
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13:46<Nick>Hiya
13:47*Nick slaps akerl around a bit with a large fishbot
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13:47*Nick slaps avelardi around a bit with a large fishbot
13:47<dwfreed>please don't do that
13:48<Nick>Am sorry
13:48<jkwood>Mostly because akerl likes it too much.
13:48<Nick>I need some help
13:48<linbot>Nick: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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13:49<Nick>I am having issues signing up on linode
13:50<Nick>Joined ..made payments but am still pending
13:50<Nick>please who can help?
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13:55<dwfreed>Nick: signups that are under review can take some time to be approved; please have patience and keep an eye on your email
13:55<Nick>ok bro...or sis...
13:56<dwfreed>...I'm not your bro
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14:04<Nick>lol...sorry
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14:06<Zimsky>dwfreed: so you're Nick's sis then
14:07<dwfreed>...
14:08<Zimsky>on your period?
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14:52<phlux>lol Zimsky you savage
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14:52<Zimsky>phlux: right on
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15:03<Robin_>I want to take the Linode 1GB package but where to buy domains ??? Also if I will buy domains from Bluehost or Godaddy.. Will they charge again for transferring the domain to Linode ?
15:03<Zimsky>linode doesn't do domains
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15:03<Zimsky>you can put your DNS on linode though
15:03<Zimsky>buy the domain from wherever you like
15:04<Robin_>So no need to transfer any domain right ?
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15:04<Peng>Right
15:04<Robin_>I need to only configure DNS in the domain provider pointing to Linode DNs...
15:04<Zimsky>I don't know where you'd be transferring domains to or from
15:04<Peng>You don't have to use Linode DNS
15:04<dhumed7>Robin: I'm about to setup a website on linode for the first time. I just bought my domain from Namecheap.com after reading reviews and asking people
15:06<Robin_>There is no article for easy configuration of domains.. I know about shared hosting but VPS never tried
15:06<phlux>I use gandi
15:06<Zimsky>racist
15:07<dhumed7>I just installed php7 on linode, how come there is no apache2 folder inside /etc/php/7.0/?
15:07<dhumed7>I'm trying to edit the appropriate php.ini file
15:07<Zimsky>depends on however you configured it
15:07<Peng>Robin_: There are articles... but it's not necessarily in Linode's scope.
15:07<Peng>Robin_: If you're using Registrar A and DNS Provider B, you need to read their documentation.
15:08<Peng>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/
15:08<dhumed7>Having configured any php yet, just installed it using "sudo apt-get install php-mysql"
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15:08<dhumed7>Haven't configured*
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15:21<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15185&p=74479#p74479>
15:24<HoopyCat>i... i thought... i thought i was the new girl :<
15:24<FluffyFoxeh>no
15:24<FluffyFoxeh>online love psychics only
15:26<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
15:29<Zimsky>I'm the new girl
15:29<Zimsky>get off your high horse HoopyCat
15:29<Zimsky>:>
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16:16<phlux>Hello Moto
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17:21<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • New Node server install, almost immediate hacking attempts <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15186&p=74480#p74480>
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19:06<dhumed>I'm trying to upload a small file to my linode server but I keep getting a permission denied using filezilla
19:06<dhumed>This is my first time uploading a file to the server
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