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03:37<Jason>Hello. I was wondering if my account supported PPTP.
03:39<grawity>Linode doesn't provide VPN services in the first place
03:39<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • New Node server install, almost immediate hacking attempts <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15186&p=74488#p74488>
03:39<grawity>if you set up PPTP service on your linode, then you can use it
03:40<grawity>the regular kernel supports it just fine
03:40<grawity>even if it's a technology that really ought to die
03:43<Jason>How does it charge if I set it up?
03:43<Jason>The one I am using now is 2G-$10/month.
03:50<grawity>there is no specific charge for what you do inside the server
03:50<grawity>you're charged $10 for the server itself (with a monthly outgoing data limit), and extra only if you go over that data limit
03:51<grawity>the limit is shown in the Linode Manager
03:52<Jason>Got it. Thanks.
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04:49<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Adidas ultra boost cheap <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15188&p=74490#p74490> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Vibram canada <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15187&p=74489#p74489>
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04:59<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Adidas pure boost women's <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15190&p=74492#p74492> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Converse low tops sale <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15189&p=74491#p74491>
05:09<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Nike football english dublaj <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15192&p=74494#p74494> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Nike air max tavas schwarz <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&p=74493#p74493>
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07:06<anand>Hello
07:13<Zimsky>buenos nachos
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07:40<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Duplicity using AWS <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15165&p=74454#p74454> || Linux Networking • PING returns IP of one of my other servers for a non-existent domain <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15154&p=74453#p74453> || General Discussion • 有懂Linux的妹子吗,相互认识交流下 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15164&p=74452#p74452> || General Discussion
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07:51<ajcastro>hello guys...
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07:52<ajcastro>can I be billed annually in linode if I want to>
07:52<ajcastro>?
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08:06<kyhwana>nope
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09:51<hi>hi
09:52<millisa>greetings
09:52<hi>你好嗎
09:52<hi>how are u
09:52<millisa>Mostly alive. Like the rest of the humans.
09:52<millisa>!ask
09:52<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
09:53<hi>whats your name
10:03<Zimsky>西姆斯基
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11:23<Matt1>hi anyone know anything about 403 error with wordpress?
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11:26<synfinatic>not even 30sec
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11:46<synfinatic>your morning lol: https://notalwaysright.com/isis-insipid-sucrose-insurgent-sect/93483/
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11:54<HoopyCat>synfinatic: "perhaps you'd like to accompany us to our squad car, ma'am?"
11:56<synfinatic>ugh, i need a search feature in web browsers to find the tab I'm looking for
11:56<FluffyFoxeh>in firefox the address bar does that actually
11:56<FluffyFoxeh>if you type something you already have open, one of the options will be "Switch to tab"
11:57<csnxs>or just not have a billion tabs
11:58<synfinatic>blasphemy!
12:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Just want to say Hello! <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15193&p=74497#p74497>
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13:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15194&p=74498#p74498>
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13:46<duggy>Does anyone here know a good guide for deploying a Django app on an ubuntu vps?
13:46<duggy>the one on linode website isn't very good
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13:48<dwfreed>how do you know it isn't very good?
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15:37<legend27>where do i find the FQDN for cpanel
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15:38<synfinatic>did you install cpanel?
15:39<legend27>Im reading this tutorial from https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/install-cpanel-on-centos
15:39<legend27>And im not sure where do i get the FQDN for the server
15:40<synfinatic>well you have to configure it
15:40<synfinatic>that's why step #1 suggests connecting to the IP
15:42<HoopyCat>in general, it'll be something you decide
15:44<legend27>So I need to buy another domain specifically to use as the server's hostname? and then point the domain to the nameservers of linode?
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15:56<HoopyCat>worst-case scenario, if you don't already have a domain and naming scheme you use for your infrastructure and don't want to have one, the Remote Access tab in the linode manager will have a lixxxx-yyy.members.linode.com hostname you can use
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16:19<millisa>hm. atl linode just dropped. can't reach lish-atlanta.linode.com either.
16:19<legend27>Ok thank you @HoppyCat
16:19<jaylark>my atl is down as well
16:19<AlexMax>Mine too
16:20<millisa>weather would be getting pretty interesting about now
16:20<dzho>it's without-an-at HoopyCat
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16:20<Felipe_Tomaz>Hello guys!
16:20<Felipe_Tomaz>Atlanta is down?
16:20<millisa>greetings
16:20<dzho>Hello gals!
16:20<HoopyCat>TIL that there's a freenode server running on linode in atlanta
16:20<millisa>Felipe_Tomaz: several of us are seeing it
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16:20<millisa>and we've lost a peng...
16:20<legend27>Does the Standard Plans come with a Dedicated IP?
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16:21<millisa>!ip
16:21<millisa>!ips
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16:21<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
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16:22<Felipe_Tomaz>@millisa any eta?
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16:23<millisa>haven't seen one yet.
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16:23<synfinatic>https://linode.statuspage.io
16:23<legend27>Public IP means its a shared IP or dedicated? just need one, not any additional
16:23<synfinatic>dedicated for you
16:23<millisa>legend27: it's just for your linode.
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16:23<synfinatic>for that specific linode
16:24<Kingu_>..assuming Atlanta just disappeared, or am I the lucky one
16:24<millisa>you aren't the lucky one
16:24<Felipe_Tomaz>Ok. And the status page will be updated?
16:24<synfinatic>you're "really on the internet" :)
16:24<millisa>we are all unlucky in this case.
16:24<densefog>My Atlanta is missing as well?
16:24<synfinatic>typically. might take a few minutes as they scramble to figure out how bad things are
16:24<Kingu_>DANG IT IRMA.. back off
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16:25<cn28h>yep, my node in Atlanta also just disappeared
16:25<Kingu_>Code Blue.. Water in the server room!
16:25<Stefan_>All my Atlantas are gone, so probably a network issue
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16:26<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Atlanta <https://status.linode.com/incidents/kqhypy8v5cm8>
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16:27<marcosgue>Hi! how are you???
16:27<Kingu_>Better than my server
16:27<millisa>Hi, marcosgue
16:27<marcosgue>anyone know's if is any work programed for today???
16:27<millisa>what do you mean?
16:27<marcosgue>i can't enter in any of my servers
16:27<Kingu_>It is now
16:27<millisa>are they in Atlanta?
16:27<marcosgue>yes
16:27<relidy>marcosgue: https://status.linode.com/incidents/kqhypy8v5cm8
16:27<millisa>They just put up a status update about it
16:28<synfinatic>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAbFqkvzQA
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16:28<marcosgue>Ohh !!1 thanks! i don't see that
16:30<Kingu_>Currently more than 700k people without power in Georgia..
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16:30<Felipe_Tomaz>@millisa any relation with the Hurricane Irma ?
16:31<hyperial>Hurricane storms in ATL messing with things?
16:31<Kingu_>seems to be so hyperial
16:31<millisa>might be. weather channel says they are near the end of the worst of it though.
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16:31<hyperial>Right after I noticed the issue, I looked up at the weather channel and saw it right over ATL. :)
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16:37<jason-cc>Any updates on Atlanta datacenter? Is it something from the Xen upgrade or a 9/11 DoS attack?
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16:38<HoopyCat>jason-cc: https://status.linode.com/
16:38<synfinatic>jason-cc it's irma
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16:38<HoopyCat>is it? :p normal outages don't take the day off due to weather
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16:39<juangber>anyone have notices about atlanta outage?
16:39<HoopyCat>juangber: https://status.linode.com/incidents/kqhypy8v5cm8
16:39<Kingu_>Yea, its out
16:39<synfinatic>well, i guess it could be al-queda. clearly if i wanted to provoke fear in the average American, taking out a Linode datacenter would be at the top of my target list
16:40<synfinatic>maybe someone wants to change the /topic ?
16:40<ksb>interesting, as it looks like I can connect to lish-dallas and then over to my atlanta VM.. I can list jobs, but can't seem to enter the console
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16:40<ksb>so *some* connectivity is present
16:41<Kingu_>as the wires swing back and forth they connect and disconnect
16:41<juangber>HoopyCat: yeah but anything else?
16:41<@mcintosh>synfinatic: we don't usually put status page posts in the topic (but I also don't hate the idea)
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16:41<dwfreed>shut up linbot
16:41<HoopyCat>juangber: that's the latest news, anything we know in here will come from there
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16:42<Trendolizer>What's the story on Atlanta?
16:42<HoopyCat>Trendolizer: https://status.linode.com/incidents/kqhypy8v5cm8
16:42<HoopyCat>mcintosh: problem with changing the /topic is that (1) nobody ever looks at it and (2) someone has to remember to change it back =^.^=
16:43<smallclone>zayo / zcolo or whatever they are are basically the worst and operating a box fan too close to their dc would probably take out the power
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16:43<juangber>HoopyCat: Ok, thanks
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16:46<juangber>maybe atlanta outage related to Irma ?
16:46<Trendolizer>And that marks 30 mins of downtime and the sixth alert I'm getting about it on my phone :-)
16:47<jaylark>mine is back
16:47<hyperial>Same here Trendolizer. :)
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16:47<millisa>and i just started getting pings. hooray.
16:47<juangber>jaylark: ours not :(
16:48<TCV21>Hello, are there current issues in the ATL DC preventing connection?
16:48<smallclone>https://status.linode.com/incidents/kqhypy8v5cm8
16:48<millisa> 15:48:03 up 0 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
16:48<smallclone>yes
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16:48<mlong>im back up in ATL
16:48<jason-cc>one of my two ATL servers are back up now
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16:50<juangber>my status 1/5 servers up, and node balancer also ok
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16:52<juangber>2/5...
16:52<beefy1986>I've got 3 up and 3 down in ATL
16:52<hyperial>2 of my 3 in ATL are back, the 3rd seems stuck in a restart I initiated before I knew about the connectivity issues...
16:52<gbit>algo got one linode rebooted in Atlanta
16:52<beefy1986>Linode manager showed 3 of them as "powered off", so I'm assuming the DC lost at least some power
16:52<gbit>also*
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16:54<hyperial>Looks like my hung one unhung itself...
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16:56<hyperial>3/3 of mine are back, thanks Linode folks!
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16:57<jason-cc>had to manually reboot my second one, now it's back up
16:58<jason-cc>until next time it rains and goes down again...
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16:59<millisa>status page updated to confirm it was a partial power outage
17:00<juangber>4/5...
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17:06<linbot>New news from status: Support Ticket Outage <https://status.linode.com/incidents/6wbwlg0l504r>
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17:22<TCV21>Atl has a power outage.. just wondering how long it will take them to get shared nodes up?
17:22<millisa>they've been coming up for the last 30+ mins
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17:28<TCV21>and I am up. Everyone have a great rest of the day
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17:42<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • StackScript on CoreOS <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15196&p=74503#p74503> || General Discussion • Linux or Windows With GPU? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14820&p=74502#p74502>
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19:04<arooni>hey team; are we supposed to get emailed updates when new tickets get opened/updated? apparently i only learned about a new ticket by logging in and updating my billing info
19:05<kb>so, I keep getting spammed in the "Linode Event Notification" emails ever since atlanta had whatever issue it had earlier. One email indicating "Host initiated restart" every 15 minutes
19:05<kb>anyone else getting this spam? or am I the lucky one out?
19:05<kb>eight emails so far and counting..
19:05<retro|blah>arooni: Yes.
19:07<arooni>retro|blah: i asked in the ticket that was opened recently the same question because i definitely didn't get an email
19:08<millisa>kb sounds like you are possibly the (un)lucky one? did you actually look to see if your linode is running? maybe it really is shutting down and getting restarted?
19:08<arooni>and you folks have the right email address because you're sending plenty of email to that address
19:08<kb>millisa: as it's the linode that I'm using to connect to this IRC server to talk to you right now, I'm sure :) that and the timestamp of the event in the email itself is constant
19:08<kb>(I checked the headers, the linode infra is generating new messages for me every 15m)
19:09<millisa>definitely sounds odd. i got just the normal set for mine
19:09<kb>If I get another one in six minutes, I guess I'll open a support ticket
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19:16<kb>yup there it is
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19:25<Lee>when you type 'w' and press enter, what does it say?
19:25<Lee>paste it here
19:28<Lee>actually, just paste the first line
19:28<millisa>are you asking for people's uptimes?
19:29<Lee>no, just kb's uptime
19:30<millisa>they said their bouncer was on the node and they haven't left the channel since it came back about 3 hours ago
19:30<dwfreed>kb: what's the timestamp on the job?
19:30<dwfreed>the emails include the timestamp of the job's creation
19:31<kb>dwfreed: constant. when the host restarted. I'm getting the same message body over and over.
19:31<dwfreed>fun
19:31<kb>very
19:31<kb>I opened a ticket
19:36<dwfreed>ah, the timestamp is actually the time the host started the job
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19:38<kb_>well, shortly after placing that ticket, I got a new ticket indicating they had a hardware problem on my host. lol
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19:38<millisa>you jinxed it
19:38<kb_>totally
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19:44<kb_>there it goes
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22:11<zifnab>Oddly quiet in here recently.
22:11<dwfreed>that's because Linode turned off Atlanta
22:11*HoopyCat raises her eyebrow
22:11<zifnab>Oh?
22:11<HoopyCat>... too quiet
22:11<dwfreed>yeah, see the status page
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22:12<zifnab>ah
22:13<zifnab>so, i set up digitalocean to do a thing
22:13<zifnab>i really want something that isn't stackscripts here :(
22:13<dwfreed>something_not_wraeth: heh
22:13<zifnab>and sane network ACLs enforced upstream
22:13<dwfreed>meh, stackscripts are fine
22:13<zifnab>well
22:13<zifnab>i have an autoscaling coreos cluster
22:13<dwfreed>also, proper firewall equipment is expensive
22:13<zifnab>it automatically joins the etcd cluster
22:14<zifnab>joins docker-swarm as a slave node
22:14<zifnab>and gets the same firewall as the hosts (which is all managed through terraform)
22:14<dwfreed>DO is hemorrhaging money
22:14<zifnab>are they?
22:14<zifnab>they have VC
22:14<zifnab>they'll just get series E
22:14<dwfreed>that's why they keep needing more VC cash
22:14<dwfreed>if they were profitable, they wouldn't need more VC cash
22:15<zifnab>thats actually not always true
22:16<HoopyCat>call me old-fashioned, but i like a business plan that involves providing stuff to customers in exchange for the cost of goods sold plus a healthy margin
22:16<zifnab>i agree
22:16<zifnab>investment isn't always a bad thing though
22:17<HoopyCat>it's useful for undercutting weak competitors to bolster other investments, yeah
22:17<zifnab>"We want to do $THING, we won't be able to afford it until $CURRENT_YEAR+8, lets take funding and it'll increase our yearly income by $$$$$"
22:17<zifnab>linode has larger instances
22:17<zifnab>they have a better network
22:17<zifnab>digitalocean has won on a weird edge case i wanted (autoscaling docker swarm setup with very minimal user interaction)
22:18<HoopyCat>DO is a gas giant: it's not there to destroy other planets, it's there to sweep up asteroids and shit before they coalesce into more planets
22:18<dwfreed>you could do that with configuration management no problem
22:18<zifnab>i could
22:19<zifnab>in this case, its a jenkins job that runs every so often to check cluster resources and adds a new node with terraform that's automagically configured with minimal user input
22:19<zifnab>i actually tried coreos (pronounced core-e-ohs) on linode first
22:19*zifnab shrugs
22:20<dwfreed>With saltstack, I could easily see a way to spin up a node from a template and have it auto-configure
22:20<zifnab>i could easily do so with ansible
22:20<zifnab>or chef, or just a shell script
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22:28<zifnab>https://imgur.com/42DOFYs is kinda neat
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22:30<dwfreed>meh
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23:38<Lee>how's it going in fl and tx? and now tenn?
23:38<Lee>and soon sc
23:39<Lee>I see TVs are floating by and they're not being carried by water.
23:40<smallclone>good ol' mild northeast
23:40<smallclone>i imagine a lot of people in those areas don't have internet access, at least a few of my coworkers down there don't
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