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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-09-21

---Logopened Thu Sep 21 00:00:06 2017
00:00<dwfreed>smallclone: this system started life as 12.04, iirc
00:01<Ikaros>Really? Not anything older than that?
00:01<Ikaros>I was half expecting older
00:01<dwfreed>well, this disk image
00:01<Ikaros>Oh.
00:02<dwfreed>though for some reason it has a 70-persistent-net.rules containing a mac address that predates static macs
00:02<dwfreed>(a long long time ago, your mac address used to be based on your IP address)
00:02<Ikaros>Heh.
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02:15<ashish>hi
02:15<ashish>anyone there?
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02:19<grawity>ask the real question, then people will show up
02:21<ashish>I want to purchase Linode 20$ per month plan... I am not developer..
02:21<ashish>I dont know how to nstall wordpress on Linode
02:22<ashish>is it possible to install wordpress on Linode by followinf tutorial videos or article
02:22<grawity>yes
02:23<ashish>presently I have hosted my website at GoDaddy.... it is getting 500k visits per month.... Godaddy cannot handle that much of traffic....
02:23<ashish>can linode handle that much traffic at 20$ plan
02:23<ashish>2core 4GB plan
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02:46<rsdehart>"how long is a piece of string?"
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03:02<Zimsky>rsdehart: 10^-33cm
03:02<Zimsky>that's the length of a string in string theory
03:02<grawity>but is it null-terminated
03:02<Zimsky>definitely.
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03:29<myrjhun>hi
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03:30<myrjhun>anyone can help me whats the base location for the servers
03:31<grawity>see https://www.linode.com/speedtest
03:31*dcraig tickles grawity around a bit with a large threadfin bream
03:32*dcraig tickles myrjhun around a bit with a large plownose chimaera
03:32<grawity>kindly please craig off
03:33*dcraig on
03:33*dcraig off
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03:35<myrjhun>can i host for openvpn for linode $5 ?
03:35<dcraig>yup
03:35<grawity>sure
03:36<myrjhun>no bandwidth limitation ?
03:36<dcraig>whatever's on the homepage
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03:36<myrjhun>okay thank you so much
03:36<dcraig>https://www.linode.com/pricing
03:37<myrjhun>ill go try to create one now
03:37<myrjhun> one last is there any promo code?
03:37<myrjhun> :)
03:37<dcraig>!referral
03:37<linbot>Looking for a referral code? Use this one for free activation: dbe98bfe8cad58e02d9ea22fc98f446240edc909 (Referral docs: https://www.linode.com/referrals )
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03:38<dcraig>I think there's also one for free shipping
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03:42<myrjhun>oh linode doesnt allow paypal?
03:42<dcraig>"it's complicated"
03:42<dcraig>you can't use paypal to sign up
03:42<dcraig>but once you're signed up, you can use paypal
03:42<myrjhun> okay
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03:44<dcraig>and then after 3 successful paypal payments, you can use bitcoin
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05:57<martinb>am I right in assuming I can edit (increase) the size of a disk in the control panel without any downtime?
06:02<dwfreed>no
06:03<dwfreed>well, if the disk isn't currently attached to a running Linode, you can
06:03<dwfreed>but otherwise you need to shut down to resize disks
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06:21<martinb>thanks
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06:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Increasing my disk space <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14893&p=74605#p74605> || General Discussion • Why did system reboot itself? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15198&p=74604#p74604>
06:58<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Is Image Snapshot Different from Backup Snapshot? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14627&p=74606#p74606>
07:08<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Can I check my files through Linode manager? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14883&p=74607#p74607>
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07:18<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [Solved]Problem connecting to some Chinese websites from Fremont, CA <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14917&p=74608#p74608>
07:28<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Linux or Windows With GPU? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14820&p=74609#p74609>
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07:58<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Reinstall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15245&p=74610#p74610>
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09:02<JamesTK>I can pay for dcraig in bitcoin?
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09:48<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14906&p=74612#p74612>
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09:57<Baokhau>I want to buy VPS hosting for email marketing.
09:58<smallclone>i really doubt you're not going to spam people, but assuming that you follow Linode's tos, that's fine.. https://www.linode.com/tos
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10:09<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [Solved] I've updated CentOS 7 and now nginx doesn't start automaticaly on system boot <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15219&p=74568#p74568>
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10:31<gordonthegopher>Hello Linode
10:31<gordonthegopher>I was thinking of getting a VPS to run as a remote desktop
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10:32<gordonthegopher>Would the $10 instance have enough power to support Ubuntu running the Mate DE
10:32<gordonthegopher>I run similar on a Chromebook with 2GB RAM, an n3050 Celeron and 32Gb storage
10:33<gordonthegopher>The plan would be to replicate this on a VPS then remote in using NoMachine from an Android tablet as it's lighter to carry around
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10:36<smallclone>i mean, it's not going to be the most fun experience
10:36<smallclone>but you could certainly do it
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10:36<smallclone>the issue is less the power of the machine and more the general sluggishness of accessing a GUI over wifi
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10:40<gordonthegopher>True, although I have used a simlar setup to remote into a VM on a home server using NoMachine over SSH
10:41<gordonthegopher>200Mbps down, 12Mbps up
10:41<gordonthegopher>VNC and X2GO were woeful but NoMachine seemed to actually allow a decent end user experience
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10:42<gordonthegopher>I'm facing off BuyVM's $7 KVM slice against Linode's $10 and can't decide which to go for
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10:43<@mcintosh>I recommend Linode
10:45<gordonthegopher>Well Linode does seem to offer a newer CPU and a dedicated core as opposed to BuyVM's fair usage 50% core of an older CPU
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10:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Reinstall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15245&p=74613#p74613>
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11:46<Eugene>Every day Im Linodin'
11:46<@jalter>!point Eugene
11:46<linbot>jalter: Point given to eugene. (28) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 8)
11:46<@bmartin>!point Eugene
11:46<linbot>bmartin: Point given to eugene. (29) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 8)
11:46<@jhaas>>.>
11:47<@jalter>dang, he got a twofer
11:47<Eugene>^_^
11:48<@jhaas>hmmm... i wonder
11:48<@jhaas>!point jhaas
11:48<linbot>jhaas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
11:48<@jalter>you wondered incorrectly
11:48*jhaas is incredibly happy about that result
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11:54<@bmartin>!unpoint jhaas
11:54<linbot>bmartin: Point taken from jhaas! (-1)
11:54<@jhaas>T_T
11:54<@jhaas>!unpoint jhaas
11:54<linbot>jhaas: Point taken from jhaas! (-2)
11:54<@jhaas>LOL
11:55*jhaas chooses to believe we're playing golf and he's winning
12:01<@bmartin>I am the Point Czar
12:02<MajObviousman>people usually have delusions of grandeur, not of golf
12:02*MajObviousman eyes jhaas suspiciously
12:02<@bmartin>!point MajObviousman
12:02<linbot>bmartin: Point given to majobviousman. (0)
12:02<MajObviousman>I will endeavor to spend it all at once
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12:03<Karrde>!unpoint jhaas
12:03<linbot>Karrde: Point taken from jhaas! (-3)
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12:03<@jalter>i did not know that was a thing
12:04<@jalter>!unpoint jalter
12:04<linbot>jalter: Point taken from jalter! (1)
12:04<@jalter>what.... i can unpoint myself??
12:04<@jalter>i guess i deserve it
12:06<@bmartin>!point jalter
12:06<linbot>bmartin: Point given to jalter. (2)
12:06<dwfreed>you certainly deserve it, because you didn't notice that jhaas did it to himself successfully earlier
12:06<dwfreed>:P
12:09*jhaas definitely has delusions of golf and of laser beams - https://myanimelist.net/manga/103898/Robot_x_Laserbeam
12:10<@jalter>!lick dwfreed
12:10<linbot>jalter: Point given to dwfreed. (24)
12:11<@jalter>in my defense, bmartin and jhaas appear as the same color in my IRC client
12:11<@bmartin>!slap jalter
12:11<@bmartin>Nothing
12:11<@jalter>i mean, i felt it
12:12<@jalter>!unlick bmartin
12:12<@jhaas>.-.
12:12<@bmartin>Pandora doesn't go back in the box
12:12<@jalter>i wanna put the toothpaste back in the tube
12:13<@jhaas>@jalter: doable. I would super glue two piece of wood to either side of the tube, then pull them apart slowly to retrieve the toothepaste
12:14<@jalter>hmmm 🤔
12:20<MajObviousman>today on #linode does physics
12:20<dwfreed>!point MajObviousman
12:20<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to majobviousman. (1)
12:21<@jhaas>Karrde: ty I'm winning even more now
12:21<MajObviousman>and when you die, you get to take ALLLL those points with you
12:21<MajObviousman>next job you apply for, make sure you put it on your resume
12:21<@bmartin>Can confirm. Points do transfer to afterlifer
12:22*jhaas writes irc bot to track his point total in #linode and display it on his website
12:25<@bmartin>!point jhaas
12:25<linbot>bmartin: Point given to jhaas. (-2)
12:25<@jhaas>bmartin: I thought we were friends
12:25<@bmartin>!unpoint jhaas
12:25<linbot>bmartin: Point taken from jhaas! (-3)
12:25<@jhaas><3
12:26<@bmartin><3
12:27<dwfreed>"Major Accomplishments: I Have 24 points in linbot"
12:29<@jhaas>!point linbot
12:29<linbot>jhaas: Point given to linbot. (1337)
12:29<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Increasing my disk space <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14893&p=74615#p74615> || General Discussion • Why did system reboot itself? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15198&p=74614#p74614>
12:30<@jalter>hmm
12:30<@jalter>!unpoint linbot
12:30<linbot>jalter: Point taken from linbot! (1337)
12:30<@jalter>thought so
12:31<@jhaas>yerp makes sense
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12:32<biplab>hi
12:33<@bmartin>Welcome!
12:33<biplab>tama server bala
12:33<biplab>i want to cancel my service
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12:33<dwfreed>you can cancel your account from the account tab of the Linode Manager; alternately, you can just remove all your Linodes
12:33<biplab>also refund me
12:34<dwfreed>for a refund, the best route is to cancel your account; just mention the refund request in the cancellation note
12:34<biplab>how much time u guys take to refund
12:34<@bmartin>absolutely and then the refund will hit your account in 3-5 business days
12:35<dwfreed>Linode will process the refund from their end the same day, but card companies hate returning money, so it can take up to 3 to 5 days to be applied to your card
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12:39<bjavaid>anyone could tell me about the standard plan with cost $20. Is it a VPS and shared hosting?
12:39<millisa>it's a vps, they all are.
12:39<dwfreed>^ linode only sells VPSes
12:39<dwfreed>they're pretty good at it, I hear
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12:40<bjavaid>Will I get ssh access or a web interface is also availabnle to manage the VPS
12:40<bjavaid>Is it UBUNTU based?
12:40<smallclone>ssh access
12:40<millisa>You get to do the whole install. The getting started guide shows you what you are getting into: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
12:40<smallclone>you can install whatever distro you want
12:40<millisa>!distros
12:40<linbot>https://www.linode.com/distributions
12:40<bjavaid>good thanks
12:40<millisa>Those are the easy ones; you can do a custom distribution, too
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14:09<bshiver>I work for a MSP and one of clients is having trouble accessing a website hosted in your environment. The tracert stops at 74.207.239.5, which I am assuming is your edge device. I have seen this behavior when the originating IP address is listed on a RBL, but I am not seeing it (12.38.245.247) listed. How can I get this addressed?
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14:12<millisa>is the linode unreachable?
14:13<synfinatic>linode doesn't do any blocking at their edge/core that i'm aware of... well unless you've been a _really_ bad boy
14:13<bshiver>I can access the website from other networks, just not this clients network.
14:14<synfinatic>more likely someone is using iptables on that box to block you then linode
14:14<millisa>run an mtr from one side to the other, then login to the linode and run an mtr back
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14:17<bshiver>I do not have access to the infrastructure, but I have contacted the person responsible for their site. I guess I will wait and see what he determines. TY.
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14:27<marshwallow>Hi there! I'm trying to set e-mail up on a Linode server using this (https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql) guide. Everything's going fine and dandy, but I'd like to know what should I write in the MX record page? I've typed in mail.<mydomain>.com as the mail server address, priority is 10, nothing specified in subdomain, and TTL is set to Default. Is that the correct configuration for this scenario?
14:30<marshwallow>Will see if it breaks. Hope it won't
14:30<marshwallow>*.
14:33<@scrane>That looks like it should work. I'd recommend taking a look at this guide: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-records-an-introduction#mx
14:34<dwfreed>it will work if 'mail.domain.com' (where domain.com is your domain) resolves to your Linode
14:35<marshwallow>Yeah, it does.
14:37<marshwallow>Now, I'd like to have <name>@<mydomain>.com e-mail addresses, not <name>@mail.<mydomain>.com. Is this one MX entry sufficient for this to work?
14:37<dwfreed>MX record just says "this server over here is responsible for processing mail for domain.com"
14:38<dwfreed>so your addresses will be @domain.com already
14:38<marshwallow>Nice.
14:38<marshwallow>Thank you.
14:39<@jalter>You may be thinking "well then can't anyone pretend to be me and send mail?" and the answer is "yes, but that's why we have SPF and DKIM"
14:39<@bmartin>!point jalter
14:39<linbot>bmartin: Point given to jalter. (3)
14:41<marshwallow>jalter: No, I didn't. But now I'm worried :D.
14:41<marshwallow>Okay, another two thingies to understand and configure.
14:41<@bmartin>!unpoint jalter
14:41<linbot>bmartin: Point taken from jalter! (2)
14:41<marshwallow>Thanks for the heads-up.
14:42<marshwallow>!point jalter
14:42<linbot>marshwallow: Point given to jalter. (3)
14:42<@jalter>Why thank you.
14:42<marshwallow>You deserved it. Have a point :D.
14:42<@bmartin>:)
14:42<@bmartin>!point marshwallow
14:42<linbot>bmartin: Point given to marshwallow. (1)
14:42<marshwallow>This point thing is getting out of control.
14:42<@bmartin>I am sorry.
14:43<marshwallow>:D
14:43<@bmartin>I get carried away sometimes
14:43<@jalter>Point taken.
14:51<@scrane>!point scrane
14:51<linbot>scrane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
14:51<@scrane>I don't know what I expected.
14:55<Toba_>hah.
14:56<marshwallow>When a bot trolls you ... that must've hurt :D.
14:57<marshwallow>!point marshmallow
14:57<linbot>marshwallow: Point given to marshmallow. (1)
14:57<marshwallow>What.
14:57<dwfreed>I'm said that the ticket emailer has stopped rickrolling people
14:58<marshwallow>Oh. I failed at writing my own username.
14:58<marshwallow>!point marshwallow
14:58<linbot>marshwallow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
14:58<marshwallow>Nope.
14:58<marshwallow>Thanks linbot for being consistent :D.
14:59<dwfreed>oh wait, it hasn't
14:59<dwfreed>it just only happens for certain ticket emails
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15:50<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Im glad I now signed up <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15246&p=74616#p74616>
15:50<Eugene>!lick zifnab
15:50<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (8)
16:10<linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • [Solved] I've updated CentOS 7 and now nginx doesn't start automaticaly on system boot <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15219&p=74568#p74568>
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16:51<allan>hi
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16:54<@bmartin>hello
16:54<@bmartin>whoops
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16:56<Ikaros>bmartin a little quicker on the draw next time eh? :P
16:56<@scrane>Haha to be fair, he left 28 seconds after saying hi...
16:56<Ikaros>True.
16:58<@bmartin>I'm just toooooo slow
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19:02<fanizio>I've just creat my account and my credit card was charged , but when I try to sign in at Linode website this message "Your account is currently being reviewed." still , so how long my account will be actived ?
19:02<@bmartin>Hey there
19:02<@bmartin>We are reviewing the signups currently so you should have a response in the next couple minutes
19:05<@bmartin>Did you have any other questions?
19:06<fanizio>Not yet sir ! I'll waiting and thank you so much
19:06<FluffyFoxeh>hmm. the backup service doesn't preserve sub-second timestamps or directory timestamps
19:07<FluffyFoxeh>this bothers me slightly
19:08<synfinatic>dir timestamps are really useful
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19:25<@bmartin>@fluffyfoxeh sorry about that. I can definitely add it as a feature request though
19:26<FluffyFoxeh>bmartin: Great. Please do
19:26<@bmartin>Not a problem
19:26<@bmartin>!point fluffyfoxeh
19:26<linbot>bmartin: Point given to fluffyfoxeh. (3)
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19:27<FluffyFoxeh>!point bmartin
19:27<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: Point given to bmartin. (1)
19:27<FluffyFoxeh>:)
19:27<@bmartin>Everybody gets a point
19:27<FluffyFoxeh>I was actually going to make a post in the feature request forum but no need now
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19:29<FluffyFoxeh>with regard to directory timestamps, I notice that it does preserve them if the directory is empty. but if it contains anything, it will be overwritten with the timestamp of when the directory was populated during the restore
19:30<dwfreed>probably because it sets the directory timestamps before populating it
19:30<FluffyFoxeh>yes
19:33<@bmartin>Thanks for the feedback
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19:41<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14906&p=74617#p74617>
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20:11<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • Linode Block Storage (beta) <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14906&p=74619#p74619>
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21:01<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Errors When Sending Email To GMail Accounts <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15247&p=74620#p74620>
21:02<kyhwana>email is hard
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21:06<@scrane>It is.
21:07<phlux>I have a grandfathered google apps account for my e-mail
21:07<phlux>So, I'm lucky, I guess. I got really sick of managing my own e-mail server. I never did figure out how to have redundancy.
21:08<phlux>That error in that e-mail looks very straightforward, though
21:08*ajmitch_ still uses linode for it
21:08<ajmitch_>usually means reverse DNS needed for ipv6
21:08<phlux>gmail's spam filter is kicking it back because he doesn't have his rDNS set up for his ipv6
21:08<phlux>yep
21:10<dwfreed>phlux: I believe backup MXes are just configured to forward everything to the primary, with infinite retries
21:10<@scrane>Yeah. If he doesn't have RDNS, he'll probably also want to take a look to make sure he has SPF set up for his IPv6 because that is also something easily missed.
21:11<phlux>dwfreed: yeah, I just couldn't ever figure out how to make that happen. This was years ago, so some good guides have likely been written since then.
21:11<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • Errors When Sending Email To GMail Accounts <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15247&p=74621#p74621>
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23:50<Zimsky>that's ok
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