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01:10<FluffyFoxeh>meep!
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01:33<Linguica>does anyone know if theres a timetable for block storage leaving beta and just being a full fledged service
01:34<millisa>haven't seen one, but they did mention that they were working on bringing it up in fremont next
01:34<Linguica>lol ugh
01:34<Linguica>my servers are in dallas and i was expecting it to be a Thing by now
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01:47<mayank>Hi i wanted to install SSL
01:47<millisa>Sounds good to me
01:47<mayank>on linode server for my website developed in php
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01:48<mayank>if some one could help ?
01:48<millisa>what part do you need help with?
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02:01<mayank>configuring SSL to the server
02:06<mayank>can some one help
02:07<millisa>not if you don't ask a specific question and give some information about what web server you are using. There are some ssl docs here https://www.linode.com/docs/security/ssl/ that may or may not apply to you
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03:12<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • The php.ini file not update <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15248&p=74622#p74622>
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03:54<rizwan>hi
03:55<rizwan>hello
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04:26<Sam_>Hi all, im new with rails deploying. I prepared rails app and now looking for hosting. Can you suggest starting package and how can i install app for production with own ip and domain name?
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05:11<hacamat>hi.
05:11<hacamat>The first instance was given the example.com example for hostname. it has to be a domain name. Or is it something else?
05:12<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started#setting-the-hostname
05:13<hacamat>I have defined hocamat as hostname.
05:13<hacamat>I did this in my hosts file.
05:13<@sjacobs>there is a little blurb there about what it is and what it isn't. also a link to a doc about the hosts file.
05:14<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/using-your-systems-hosts-file
05:14<hacamat>I read all of them. I am new. I do not understand.
05:15<hacamat>hocamat.birazokur.com hocamat
05:15<hacamat>my hosts file
05:15<hacamat>it's right?
05:16<Woet>hacamat: can you just get to the point and state your problem?
05:16<@sjacobs>no. did you read through the examples?
05:17<hacamat>my problem is that I could not do the first setup.
05:17<hacamat>yes I have read
05:17<Woet>okay, what is the error message?
05:18<hacamat>What should I set as hostname? Is there any word in the field if there is no step. What I do not understand hostname :)
05:19<Woet>hacamat: the hostname is whatever you want it to be
05:19<Woet>hacamat: the tutorial clearly states so.
05:19<Woet>hacamat: "Your system’s hostname should be something unique. Some people name their servers after planets, philosophers, or animals. Note that the hostname has no relationship to websites or email services hosted on it, aside from providing a name for the system itself."
05:20<hacamat>echo "hacamat" > /etc/hostname
05:20<hacamat>hostname -F /etc/hostname
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05:21<hacamat>after these commands will hostname hacamat
05:23<hacamat>and hosts file
05:24<hacamat>myserverip hostname.hacamat.com hostname
05:24<hacamat>it's right?
05:25<@sjacobs>hacamat: you can verify the hostname is set by running `hostname`
05:28<@sjacobs>you probably want "$IP_ADDRESS hacamat.com hacamat", but the examples go over their purposes.
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05:29<mylinelight2_>is andbody here?
05:29<@sjacobs>you'd probably be fine with the FQDN example, but i don't know what you're using your linode for.
05:29<mylinelight2_>my account is being reviewed, how long it
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05:32<@sjacobs>mylinelight2_: you can expect an email shortly.
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05:36<hacamat>hostname printed hacamat at command output
05:36<hacamat>I made hacamat.com hacamat for the hosts file
05:37<hacamat>How do I know it's true.
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05:39<@sjacobs>hacamat: ping hacamat
05:41<hacamat>yes it worked. ping worked.
05:41<hacamat>thans @sjacobs
05:41<@sjacobs>hacamat: then you're all set. np.
05:42<hacamat>I will now start to install apache. I hope I did.
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05:51<hacamat>sudo a2dissite *default
05:51<hacamat>ERROR: No site found matching *default!
05:51<hacamat>I get this error
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06:23<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Open source billing and support software <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=5950&p=74623#p74623>
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06:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Reinstall <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15245&p=74624#p74624>
06:43<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • RTP/Asterisk/FreeSWITCH on Linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15249&p=74625#p74625>
07:00<hacamat>I created domain.com in /var/www/html/ and the domain.com.conf file does not exist
07:00<hacamat>do not need to auto-generate?
07:03<ponas>you should have a config file per domain
07:06<hacamat>I need to create it manually
07:07<Woet>hacamat: what makes you think domains are private info?
07:08<Woet>hacamat: and could you please spent some time reading tutorials, documentation and googling before asking here?
07:08<ponas>hacamat: yes
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09:53<v0lksman>just curious if there is a way to "clone" an existing node?
09:55<dzho>v0lksman: yeah, I think so, don't have the ref at my fingertips though
09:56<v0lksman>dzho: only way I know to do it (easily) is with the backup service...take a snapshot and deploy that to a new node...but I can't see anything without it
09:56<dzho>in what way does that not do what you need?
10:00<v0lksman>it does but I don't want to have to enable backups for a one time shot
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10:06<@mcintosh>v0lksman: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/clone-your-linode
10:10<v0lksman>ahh sonofa! I knew there was a tool somewhere! thanks!
10:12<hawk>Are you calling mcintosh a tool? :P
10:12<dzho>\o/
10:13<dzho>employee of company provides useful information about company's services.
10:13<dzho>what is the world coming to.
10:16<v0lksman>lol
10:16<@jalter>if the shoe fits...
10:16*jalter runs
10:19<@mcintosh>>:(
10:27<FluffyFoxeh>https://twitter.com/erniemiller/status/910488613602889729
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10:40<aman>hi, how can i have free cpanel in linode?
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10:41<aman>what is that?
10:42<v0lksman>did...did you just ask yourself a question to respond to your question?
10:42<aman>no
10:42<v0lksman>what is what then?
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10:47<FluffyFoxeh>okay BYE
10:50<HoopyCat>steal a credit card, buy a cpanel license
10:53<@jalter>He might have been asking about ChanServ bumping the channel limit
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12:32<Guest5197>Hi, does each instance get a dedicated IP address?
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12:36<io____>is it possible to use something like s3.amazondomain/mybucket as target in CNAME?
12:36<io____>it seems like it is not possible as i get "You have entered an invalid target. It must be a valid hostname."
12:37<io____>I need to configure Drupal 7 to use my own domain to serve files from s3 the settings says "The domain name from which you want your files to be served. You will need to configure a DNS CNAME that maps from this domain to your bucket's URL."
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12:41<smallclone>io____: it appears to be possible https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/VirtualHosting.html#VirtualHostingCustomURLs
12:42<smallclone>the dns manager does not support creating cnames for root domains though, as that violates some RFC
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12:43<smallclone>you could do as that example does though, and create a subdomain for images / artifacts or whatever, like files.domain.com
12:44<io____>thanks smallclone !
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12:47<hawk>smallclone: Indeed, you can't make a name both have records (SOA+NS are required at the apex) and be an alias
12:48<smallclone>yeah i knew it was something like that
12:48<smallclone>though lots of fancier dns providers violate that
12:48<hawk>Not really
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12:49<smallclone>i don't know the methodology behind "cname flattening" at all to be fair
12:49<hawk>A bunch of providers synthesize A/AAAA records to create a provide a solution for what you describe. Pretty much only the sloppiest do actual CNAME records there
12:50<Eugene>DNAME ftw
12:50<hawk>DNAME has nothing to do with this, though?
12:50<Eugene>Nope, they're just cool and I like running conversations off the rails
12:50<hawk>Ok, fair enough
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13:56<marshwallow>I've been following this guide: https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql, and under the Postfix heading it says my main.cf should match the one posted in this guide.
13:56<marshwallow>Which is quite fine, but why did the guide authors decide to drop the mailbox_command and inet_protocols statements?
13:58<millisa>inet_protocols defaults to 'all'; it may have been commented in their config.
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13:59<marshwallow>Oh, okay, makes sense.
13:59<marshwallow>It's not commented though, it's fully removed in the guide's config.
13:59<marshwallow>But effectively the same thing.
13:59<marshwallow>Fine, what about mailbox_command?
14:00<millisa>i'd guess the same; pretty sure it's commented if there at all in a default config. (it defaults to empty)
14:01<marshwallow>It is there in the default config, and is set to `procmail -a "$EXTENSION"`
14:01<marshwallow>*.
14:01<millisa>it's there in your default config you mean.
14:02<marshwallow>I think so.
14:02<smallclone>the guide is a bit old, it may not have been included by default in whatever version they were using when they wrote it
14:02<millisa>my default postfix configs do not have mailbox_command defined; it has a commented example of /some/where/procmail, but it isn't defined
14:02<marshwallow>Am I losing anything useful if I remove that statement?
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14:04<marshwallow>I didn't edit my postfix main.cf file until now, so it's a Ubuntu/Linode default on 16.04.
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14:05<marshwallow>Perhaps it was altered according to MySQL entries, or while it was being installed, but I didn't edit it by hand.
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14:06<millisa>if you want some other extra processing to happen on a mail before it's delivered locally, you'd need something in the mailbox_command (so if it's procmail, you could set it so an individual user can put a procmailrc file in their home dir to have directives on what to do with mail)
14:07<marshwallow>I suppose not.
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14:07<marshwallow>Well, out it goes then.
14:09<marshwallow>I thought it was a new part of the default config which didn't exist when the guide was written, but if it's merely for "extra processing", which I'm not going to do, at least for now ... I suppose I can remove it.
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14:09<marshwallow>Thanks for replying.
14:09<millisa>it's been an option available for a very long time
14:09<Spitfire>2 hour delay on support ticket atm? Trying to get an extra IP.
14:09<smallclone>Spitfire: not really unusual during peak US hours, if it's urgent you should call them
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14:10<Spitfire>:(
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14:10<Spitfire>Aight
14:11<marshwallow>millisa: What exactly? Additional processing?
14:11<bng44270>quick question about ssh host access
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14:11<Spitfire>I'm UK so probably bit expensive to phone.
14:11<millisa>users can put rules in their file for one
14:12<millisa>marshwallow: there are examples of things people do with it here: http://tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue14/procmail.html
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14:12<millisa>!to bng44270 ask
14:12<linbot>bng44270: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
14:12<Eugene>Hmm, there used to be a SIP address provided for Telephone contact. When did that go away?
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14:14<bng44270>After logging into my locations VM host I then run my nodes name to access my node. Is there a propper way to disconnect from my locations VM host? When I logout of my guest I am left with a login screen and no way to exit.
14:14<millisa>bng44270: are you talking about with lish?
14:15<marshwallow>millisa: Ah, okay, fine. As you've said, it deals with automated mail handling. Thought it was some critical thingy. Thanks.
14:17<bng44270>yes, I disabled ssh access directly to my host :)
14:17<millisa>CTRL-A D dumps you back out to the hosts console if that's what you are looking for?
14:18<smallclone>bng44270: seems like a bit of an odd thing to do..but alright.
14:19<marshwallow>Can I surround my MySQL password in mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf with apostrophes or quote marks? I'm using characters which might terminate a statement prematurely.
14:20<marshwallow>No, should I?
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14:23<bng44270>security is a bit odd I suppose
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14:29<marshwallow>It didn't break, so apparently no surrounding is needed.
14:30<marshwallow>master.cf. Why does the Linode guide change chroot from `no` to `yes`?
14:30<marshwallow>All the following columns are complemented as well.
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14:31<marshwallow>The guide doesn't mention what happens to pickup, cleanup and friends when changing this. Should they also be complemented from "y" to "n" and vice versa?
14:31<marshwallow>Suppose it's a different way to say the same thing.
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14:32<marshwallow>Hope nothing breaks if I don't change the chroot column. After all, the guide didn't emphasize its importance, so I hope nothing bad happens.
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14:33<marshwallow>Oh, um, it seems like some extra -o lines are added in the master.cf file on my server, but I guess it's okay.
14:33<marshwallow>Fingers crossed.
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17:16<privyreza>how does the per hour pricing model, how do you calculate the usage and determine whether i over used resources or not?
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17:57<Eugene>I read on the forum about Block Storage coming to Fremont. I'm not clear on whether its live or not? The cloud.linode.com panel lets me choose "Region: us-west-1a", but I get an error. Not sure if this is a JSfail or a backendfail https://i.imgur.com/KQJSYss.png
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18:16<@mtjones>Eugene: It's not yet available in Fremont but we're looking to start beta testing Block Storage there soon. Everything's ready to go for when we do turn it on, so you can see the region in the dropdown menu but it won't let you add it just yet.
18:16<Eugene>The error message given back is still nonsensical
18:17<@mtjones>That's a good point, I'll check in with the team working on it to see if there's something else going on, or if it's related to it not being available in Fremont.
18:17<Zimsky>that should then mean it makes sense to you though, Eugene
18:18<Eugene>I admit to being too lazy to trace whether that is a client- or server-side error
18:33<marshwallow>Dovecot's auth-sql.conf.ext. Should I comment out other userdb definitions that aren't "driver = static"?
18:34<marshwallow>Seems so.
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18:47<@mcintosh>Eugene: the dropdown menu doesn't filter which regions actually have BS available to them at all
18:48<@mcintosh>you should see that same error if you select any other DC that isn't newark
18:48<Eugene>The error is still nonsense. 100 is an Integer. If there's no error code in the API for "not available" then just give a 420 error or something
18:48<Eugene>But don't type error
18:49<@mcintosh>Eugene: the nonsense error is a bug
18:49<Eugene>And that's why I reported it
18:50<@mcintosh>right - just letting you know that we know that you know ;)
18:50<Eugene>!itvends
18:50<linbot>It vends! an antique bottle of Coca-Cola
18:50<millisa>I'm letting you know that I know that Eugene knows that you know that he knows.
18:52<marshwallow>Dovecot's 10-master.conf. Linode guide suggests changing "unix_listener lmtp" to "unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp". When I `ls /var/spool/postfix/private`, I can't find anything there. Is it wrong to do so then?
18:53<marshwallow>Is it something that will be created after specifying it in the .conf file?
18:55<marshwallow>Probably.
18:55<Eugene>Yes, that's a socket
18:56<marshwallow>Thanks for confirming :).
19:14<Zimsky>just seeing the word dovecot gave me a headache
19:36<linbot>New news from forum: Current Betas • New cloud.linode.com control panel <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15015&p=74633#p74633>
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20:03<marshwallow>Why? It has a lovely name!
20:03<Eugene>He has an irrational fear of beds with wings
20:03<Zimsky>more like she has a perfectly rational fear of mail handling daemons
20:03<marshwallow>:D
20:04<Zimsky>I hate email so much
20:04<marshwallow>All jokes aside... I keep getting the "SSL alert number 48" error in /var/log/mail.log.
20:04<marshwallow>Uh, sorry for interrupting.
20:04<Zimsky>maybe use TLS
20:04<Zimsky>ssl is obsolete
20:04<marshwallow>Okay, is there a guide to help me do that?
20:05<Zimsky>you could probably pay Eugene €10
20:05<marshwallow>I tried to fix the SSL error by following this page: https://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2016-September/105492.html, but even openssl is failing.
20:06<marshwallow>But ... I'm trying to skip the paying part :P.
20:06<marshwallow>Unless it's not possible.
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20:06<Eugene>Go set up Let's Encrypt
20:07<Zimsky>yes, let's
20:07<marshwallow>:D
20:07<Zimsky>lettuce encrypt
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20:07<Zimsky>lettuce pray
20:07<Eugene>Remember to add a cron job to do the renew & restart nginx+dovecot+postfix and whatever else is using your cert
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20:13<marshwallow>Ouch. Okay, thanks.
20:26<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Trouble Getting 2nd Vhost to work <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15250&p=74634#p74634>
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20:45<marshwallow>Can removing sendmail break network connectivity?
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20:50<marshwallow>Yes, it can.
20:50<millisa>there's a '--deploy-hook' that can be added to a certbot renewal cron that'll run a script only after successful renewal
20:51<marshwallow>Why certbot, when there's a nice method described on Linode's pages, and it doesn't include certbot?
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21:01<Eugene>Because certbot is the awesome way
21:02<Eugene>It works
21:03<Zimsky>s/awesome //
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22:46<Aido>Hi
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22:47<Aido>how much is linodes download and upload speed in vps ?
22:49<Peng>The maximum speeds are given on https://www.linode.com/pricing
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