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---Logopened Wed Oct 04 00:00:24 2017
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00:29<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
00:29<dcraig>but it's nighttime now
00:34<Woet>he might not be able to see whether its dark or not in his towel
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00:44<Zimsky>dcraig: that doesn't affect anything though
00:44<jax>Hi I'm back. So I was able to get connected. But, when I tried to connect through filezila I got this error Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)
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00:45<Zimsky>dcraig: what eugene does every night is undefined
01:04<@sjacobs>jax: are you using filezilla on windows, mac, or linux?
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01:18<poky>Hello! What is the quickest way to move database from old linode to new linode?
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01:19<@sjacobs>poky: are the two linodes in the same datacenter?
01:23<@sjacobs>and what kind of database?
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01:25<poky>sjacobs: Yeah same datacenter. MYSQL
01:25<poky>I've been exporting databases to .sql file then scp to new linode then importing. Is it the only way or any quicker way I can achieve this?
01:28<Eugene>TowelDB
01:29<@sjacobs>at first i thought to mysqldump the db, then shut down and clone the disk to the new linode so you could copy it, but that is still going to go over the network. so that's no better.
01:30<@sjacobs>block storage would be a good choice, but beta, and limited availability.
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01:31<@sjacobs>maybe your best bet would be do do all the exports, then tar and gzip them before sending. your also probably better off to direct it to your private ip address, if you are not already.
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01:33<jsx>I'm using fiezilla on a mac
01:34<dcraig>the world is your oyster
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01:36<poky>hmm
01:36<poky>I will. Thanks. Great idea though.
01:36<poky>Thanks. Will keep in mind for future transitions
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01:41<@sjacobs>jsx: you have your public key added to the linode users ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? and the matching public/private keys in your local ~/.ssh/ directory?
01:42<@sjacobs>and make sure password is left empty in filezilla. that is all that i needed to do.
01:42<jsx>Not sure I'll have to check
01:44<@sjacobs>looks like i had ran an `ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa` on my local computer in the past, as well. (substituting for the private key you are using)
01:45<jsx>I just need to run that command?
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01:46<@sjacobs>i don't know. i was just adding to the list of things to check.
01:47<jsx>ahhh ok got ya. I'll check to make sure that my public key is added to my lindode first.
01:49<@sjacobs>if you can already ssh, that's probably all you need to do.
01:53<Zimsky>TowelDB
01:54<@sjacobs>brawnyd > wipe mess;
01:59<jsx>I'm trying to ftp to the server. to upload files
02:01<FluffyFoxeh>!lick dcraig
02:01<linbot>FluffyFoxeh: Point given to dcraig. (5)
02:01<Zimsky>yuck
02:01<FluffyFoxeh>Zimsky: don't do that
02:02<Zimsky>FluffyFoxeh: no.
02:02<Zimsky>jsx: why not use sftp instead
02:02<FluffyFoxeh>oh well okay do it I guess
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02:08<Zimsky>yes, do that
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02:16<jsx>I am using sftp
02:16<jsx>still getting the same error.
02:16<@sjacobs>jsx: can you ssh to the server?
02:16<jsx>yes
02:18<jsx>Ahh I see. I don't have a public key set it looks like...derp
02:18*dcraig tickles fluffyfoxeh around a bit with a large pikeperch
02:18<FluffyFoxeh>yay
02:19<dcraig>yeah you got lucky with that pikeperch
02:19<dcraig>coulda been a shortnose chimaera
02:19<Zimsky>oh fuck
02:19<Zimsky>that's a bit on the nose, don't you reckon?
02:20*dcraig tickles zimsky around a bit with a large priapumfish
02:20<Zimsky>oh no.
02:20<Zimsky>anything but that.
02:21<FluffyFoxeh>wicked
02:22<dcraig>is it disappointing that the fish are always large?
02:22<dcraig>i could pick a random size instead
02:22<Zimsky>how many types of fish are there?
02:23<Zimsky>dcraig: you should choose a random infectious disease
02:23<FluffyFoxeh>nooo
02:23<dcraig>however many were on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_fish_names like 10 years ago...
02:23<FluffyFoxeh>you've been doing this for 10 years?!
02:23<dcraig>at least
02:24<FluffyFoxeh>man you must have quite the fish collection by now
02:24<dcraig>the first time I ran the random fish script, the randomly selected fish was "trout"
02:24<dcraig>and that's the default in mirc
02:24<dcraig>I was like wtf
02:24<FluffyFoxeh>that's amazing
02:25<dcraig>true story!
02:26<dcraig>I also have an ASL script that calculates my actual age for me
02:35<Zimsky>2/hermaphroditic-aquatic-creature/the sea
02:36<dcraig>hottt
02:36<Zimsky>no, that's you
02:36<jsx>Damn still getting the same error.
02:36<FluffyFoxeh>me-ow
02:36<dcraig>I know I am but what are you
02:37*Zimsky
02:37<jsx>I'm going to see if I can get in contact with support. I'm tired.
02:37<Zimsky>what's yer error lad
02:38<Zimsky>why not just scp it
02:38<jsx>Didn't know you could do that in here
02:39<Zimsky>do what
02:39<Zimsky>scp?
02:39<jsx>Here is the error http://take.ms/zzAQr
02:40<@sjacobs>jsx: if you can ssh just fine, without a password, you should only need to make sure Filezilla or your mac knows what keys it can use.
02:40<@sjacobs>you can use the `ssh-add` command above, or add your private key to Filezilla.
02:40<Zimsky>cyberduck is another client you could use
02:40<Zimsky>apparently works rather well on OSX
02:42<jsx>The first time you try and connect it grabs your public key
02:42<@sjacobs>private key?
02:43<@sjacobs>yeah, i just removed my key from `ssh-add` and got the same error as you.
02:43<@sjacobs>(same deal if you didn't have your private key in Filezilla)
02:44<jsx>So I need the ssh-add
02:45<@sjacobs>personal preference. you can add it to filezilla, too, but i chose to use ssh-add.
02:46<jsx>Where would I add it?
02:46<@sjacobs>locally, run `ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa` from the mac terminal (replacing id_rsa with the private part of your key pair)
02:51<jsx>ok so I would have to run pbcopy ~/.ssh/id_rsa/ and then run ssh-add to make sure that I have my key pair
02:53<@sjacobs>why are you copying it? from where to where?
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02:54<jsx>from the terminal
02:54<@sjacobs>on your mac you should have a public and private key. on your linode you should have only the public key.
02:54<@sjacobs>everything should be in the correct place if you can already ssh.
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02:55<jsx>ooo ok
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04:07<windy>Hi , My disk is full ..so the sevice is shutdown ,how can i upgrade my disk or boot my system?
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04:09<@sjacobs>windy: https://www.linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linode-platform/resize-a-linode-disk
04:10<@sjacobs>if you have used the full amount of your plan's storage allocation, you will need to resize the linode, first.
04:10<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode
04:10<Peng>Maybe you can delete some things?
04:10<@sjacobs>^^ best answer.
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04:11<windy>Now I can not connect the system.
04:12<@sjacobs>you can use lish if you cannot ssh.
04:12<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
04:13<@sjacobs>if it is failing to boot, from there you can also see the reason.
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04:14<windy>let my try it ,Thanks @sjacobs
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04:22<windy>By use linode-shell-lish,It do not work ,See the error "Your Linode isn't running"
04:23<@sjacobs>windy: then you will need to boot it. if you keep the console open, you can watch the boot process as it happens.
04:24<windy>I want to delete some things ~ But now i can not boot the linode.
04:25<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/rescue-and-rebuild
04:25<@sjacobs>you can mount the disks in rescue mode and remove some files.
04:25<@sjacobs>did it give you an error when it was booting?
04:26<windy>the error is the disk is full.
04:26<windy>Like this:Linode disk /dev/sda not ready to boot. Please contact support.
04:27<@sjacobs>windy: that doesn't necessarily mean the disk is full. you should open a support ticket.
04:28<windy>the free storage is 0 MB
04:29<@sjacobs>that is how much of your plan's storage you have allocated towards your disks. not how much free space is available on the disks.
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04:31<windy>On the Dashboard ,See: Storage Total: 98304 MB Used: 98304 MB Free: 0 MB
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04:31<@sjacobs>windy: that is not your issue. you are going to need to open a support ticket.
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04:34<windy>OKay, I have open the ticket 1 hour ago..The only thing i can do is watting ? Then i want know how long the supper can handle the ticket?
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04:35<@sjacobs>windy: what is your ticket number?
04:35<windy>8871679
04:55<windy>Is there any other way to boot the system?
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04:57<@sjacobs>windy: you should have just received an update to your support ticket.
04:58<windy>So long for wait...~
05:05<Woet>windy: 1 hour for a company that provides $5 vpses is considered long?
05:05<Woet>you'd get a heart attack if you'd look at AWS
05:06<Zimsky>"You should receive a response in 24-48 hours"
05:06<Woet>$29 per month just to get access to support
05:06<Zimsky>lol
05:06<Woet>and that SLA is < 12 business hours for system impaired, < 24 business hours for everything else
05:06<Woet>i dont know why people think budget providers should have some kind of 1 hour support SLA
05:08<@sjacobs>windy: you're good to go. i'll update your ticket.
05:09<windy>Thank you very much~
05:10<@sjacobs>windy: by the way. if you want to know how much free space you have, you can run `df -h`
05:10<windy>Okay ,Thanks agin!
05:17<Woet>thank you for your trial of linode managed. you've now reached your monthly allowance of 1 basic linux answer a month. for more, please pay $100/month.
05:19<@sjacobs>it really did need support's helping hand. when the error says to contact support. most times ya need to contact support.
05:22<Woet>i've been waiting for your hand for years sjacobs
05:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Just want to say Hi. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15300&p=74739#p74739>
05:24<@sjacobs>RachelBu, ruining the moment.
05:24<Woet>ah yea
05:24<Woet>the usual daily spam no one cares to fix
05:24<Woet>was waiting for that
05:28<@sjacobs>well. that one is now fixed.
05:29<Woet>i would argue that deleting spam after its been posted is not fixed, just resolved.
05:29<Woet>a fix would be actually preventing it from happening
05:29<@sjacobs>i did hesitate in saying fixed. you are right.
05:30<Woet>thats okay
05:30<Woet>i forgive you
05:30<Woet>this time
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06:35<hitham>is the hosting is fully managed?
06:35<Woet>if you pay $100/month per linode, sure
06:35<Woet>www.linode.com/managed
06:35<Woet>but no, your $5 linode is not fully managed.
06:35<@sjacobs>hitham: i wouldn't even call that fully managed, though. you would still need to install updates, security fixes, etc.
06:36<hitham>what about Linode 4GB plan?
06:36<Woet>[12:35:28] <Woet> if you pay $100/month per linode, sure
06:36<@sjacobs>but linode support would be able to log in and troubleshoot issues, should they arise. (regarding linode managed)
06:36<Woet>[12:35:31] <Woet> www.linode.com/managed
06:36<Woet>sjacobs: it doesnt include security updates? wow.
06:37<Zimsky>wow.
06:37<@sjacobs>it doesn't. the only installation that happens is cPanel, if it is wanted.
06:37<Zimsky>woet.
06:37<Woet>ouch
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06:38<Woet>but at least you'll be there to get rid of the rootkits
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06:38<Woet>seems like it'd save you a lot of work and money if you'd keep your customers servers secure
06:59<Zimsky>Woet: resell them and offer more services at a lower price than them
06:59<Zimsky>:D
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07:02<Woet>i dont like dealing with people
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07:23<Zimsky>same
07:23<dzho>and yet, here we all are
07:23<Woet>except Eugene
07:23<Woet>he's nice
07:23<Woet>but he's mostly towel
07:23<Zimsky>I disagree
07:23<dzho>ITYM "I like dealing with people in a way that's likely to lose me money"
07:23<Zimsky>dzho: we are all here indeed
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09:34<pappous>Hello!
09:34<pappous>i've already have an eshop on a linode server
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09:35<pappous>i'd like to ask if it is possible to launch another site in the same server. I think i would need one more IP address, is that right?
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09:41<pappous>Any info would be appreciated!
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09:42<Nightmeare>Hey I sent in a support case per email last week no resonse yet or even a confirmation
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09:49<Zimsky>thievery
09:49<smallclone>Night: the support email system can be kinda...bad at times. i'd recommend giving them a call.
09:50<|Night|>smallclone:  I was told by this channal to email since it is an ripe issue
09:51<smallclone>yeah, emailing is the best thing to do, for sure. but if you still haven't received a response, i think it's time to give them a call.
09:51<smallclone>if it's been as long as you say, which i think it has been, because i remember your original question
09:51<@bmartin>hey there @night
09:51<|Night|>hey bmartin
09:51<@bmartin>If you'd like to email again I can take a quick look
09:51<|Night|>ill fw the same email again
09:51<@bmartin>or if you can login on your Linode account and open a support ticket I can look that way as well
09:52<@bmartin>support@linode.com
09:52<@bmartin>just let me know the subject so I can find it
09:52<|Night|>you got mail
09:52<|Night|>RIPE Whois from IPv6 2a01:7e00::/32
09:53<@bmartin>got it
09:53<|Night|>simple enough to edit whois only to use ipv4 but still kinda pain tbh
09:53<@bmartin>I'm going to get that into the support queue so we can get that sorted
09:54<|Night|>indeed, it is a job for ripe to remove block, and find out why and from who abuse came
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09:55<@bmartin>You should hear back shortly. Sorry we missed it initially
09:55<|Night|>no issue, it not a critical issue for linode services so I do understand that your priorities
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09:56<@bmartin>Regardless we take customer support very seriously and apologize for the delay
09:56<@bmartin>Thanks for your patience
09:56<|Night|>:)
09:57<@bmartin>:)
09:58<ponas>:)
09:58<@bmartin>We are all happy here
09:59<|Night|>from experince as a lir, having a net banned from whois taks some doing
09:59<|Night|>So would be something linode should look in to once they get more information from ripe
10:01<@bmartin>We will look into it and if we don't have an answer right away we will keep you posted on any progress
10:05<jcanto>Hello, how long is the grace period in case of outstandig balance in Linode?
10:06<smallclone>they send you like 3 different emails throughout the month..pretty sure your stuff gets deleted if you don't pay by the end of the month. if you're worried about it, open up a ticket and you can request a payment extension
10:06<|Night|>bmartin:  any reason they are asking for digits from my credit card to fill that support case
10:06<|Night|>:p
10:07<smallclone>that's what they use to authenticate your account..just the last six though.
10:07<@bmartin>They do it to verify ownership of the account and so we can look into the account details specifically
10:07<|Night|>is last 4 suficcant\
10:07<@bmartin>has to be last 6
10:08<|Night|>I hav never seen anyone ask for more than 4 so
10:08<jcanto>thank you
10:08<@bmartin>or you can login to the Linode manager and open a support ticket that way
10:08<@bmartin>and they won't ask for the card info
10:08<@bmartin>whichever is easiest for you
10:08<@bmartin>if you do that just let me know
10:09<|Night|>I'l do that
10:09<@bmartin>just throw up the ticket number once it's in
10:09<@bmartin>thank you!
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10:10<|Night|>done
10:10<|Night|>I'm kinda overprotective of my cards
10:10<to>hello
10:10<@bmartin>found it thank you
10:10<smallclone>to: hi, feel free to ask your question
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10:11<to>want to move apps and data from rimuhosting
10:11<|Night|>cheers bmartin
10:11<|Night|>scp /sftp will do that to
10:11<Ling>Hi, I wonder if anyone can help. bit suggestion.
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10:11<Ling>I am no good with Linux etc.
10:11<Ling>Got ddos attack since yesterday
10:11<to>scp /sftp will move my apps and data?
10:11<|Night|>what do you want to move
10:12<|Night|>data files eg webpage files/db?
10:12<to>openerp 7, prestashop and pentaho without having to reinstall
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10:12<smallclone>to: scp / sftp is a way of moving files around between linux systems. you'd still need to install whatever applications you're using currently on the new Linode
10:13<|Night|>smallclone:  true, database can be moved accross so will not lose data/configuratin
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10:13<qq>Hi, do anyone know what's the pricing charge for additional storage?
10:13<smallclone>yeah you can keep the config files but you'll need to install the applications again and probably do at least some config
10:13<smallclone>qq: they don't offer it currently, there's a block storage offering in beta though
10:13<|Night|>openerp is quite simple to move unlike other stuff like SAP,
10:13<to>so I can import the data via postgres and mysql, but reinstall?
10:14<|Night|>to yes
10:14<smallclone>Ling: not sure what your question is
10:14<|Night|>make sure they are same version
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10:14<Ling>Smallclone, sorry on a call.
10:14<to>yes, know the problem with version.
10:14<Ling>I thought Linodes has been using cloudflare.
10:15<smallclone>if you're being ddos'd, Linode most likely black holed your IP.
10:15<Ling>so it should be hard for ppl to ddos linodes
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10:15<smallclone>they use cloudflare for some parts of their infra, Cloudflare is not protecting your Linode IP address
10:15<Ling>ah, this is what they did.
10:15<|Night|>Ling:  cloudflare is not webpages and dns
10:15<|Night|>i can still doss your ip back to the stone age
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10:16<Ling>Guess, I should just sit there and wait til those twats get bored?
10:16<Ling>lol
10:16<smallclone>if it's a domain that's getting attacked, you could put it behind cloudflare, and then demonstrate this to them, and they'll probably swap out the IP for you
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10:16<|Night|>Ling:  block his ip
10:16<smallclone>that won't do it
10:17<Ling>Not just one ip
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10:17<|Night|>smallclone:  i know, but bgp drop will
10:17<to>someone was saying about 'Launch assistant': tool for migration of apps and data
10:18<|Night|>what kind of ddos? small sub 100mbit? or
10:18<smallclone>yeah, you're going to need to get yourself some kind of dos protection, or wait it out
10:18<smallclone>if they nulled it it's likely much, much more than that
10:18<|Night|>last ddos i got on another service was 80gigabit
10:18<Ling>smallclone, yes, they did that.
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10:28<Zimsky>the real fun is when you get 500gbit events and neither the host (nor the upstreams) are equipped to handle it
10:29<Ling>I am struggling to find out what happened? the details of the attack.
10:41<Zimsky>are you?
10:42<Woet>I am struggling with life
10:43<Zimsky>but is it the real life? or is it just fantasy?
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10:44<Zimsky>if it's the former, the struggle is real
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10:45<Zimsky>Woet: don't get caught in a landslide though. there's no escape from reality
10:45<Woet>i wish it was fantasy
10:45<Woet>then you wouldn't really exist
10:45<Zimsky>open your eyes Woet
10:45<Woet>i'd rather not
10:45<Zimsky>just have a look up to the skies
10:45<Woet>last time i opened them Eugene was wearing nothing but a towel
10:45<Zimsky>do you see?
10:46<Zimsky>at least Eugene was wearing a towel
10:46<Zimsky>where upon Eugene's person said towel was worn is a question worth finding an answer to
10:48<Woet>it really isn't
10:48<Woet>trust me
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11:44<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin', but today a truck is scheduled to deliver 4 Tons of fence.
11:44<Eugene>So I think I'm gonna be a bit preoccupied
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11:45<amar_>hello
11:46<amar_>Thank you for completing your signup! Your account is currently being reviewed. You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!
11:46<amar_>my account pending
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11:46<smallclone>just wait for them to review it
11:47<amar_>how long will it take?
11:48<smallclone>i don't know. probably not more than an hour. probably.
11:49<@jhaas>In most cases it takes 15 minutes, but depending on availability and volume an hour is a good upper bound.
11:53<amar_>It is 5 hours
11:53<amar_>not reviewed
11:54<@jhaas>@amar_ In some cases we might need additional verification for signups. Could you check your inbox and spam folder for any more e-mails from us?
11:55<@jhaas>You can also e-mail support@linode.com and we'll be happy to lookup your account. Please include the *last 6* digits of the credit card in the e-mail for authentication.
11:56<amar_>my username: amarsky
11:56<amar_>mail: amarfb400@yahoo.com
11:56<amar_>0875 card last number
11:56<@jhaas>Sorry if I wasn't clear before, we can't lookup your account over IRC.
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11:59<JH>Greetings
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11:59<jay_>Hi today I started having a new problem that I never saw before --> Can't connect: Can not authenticate to IMAP server: [CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (authenticate)
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11:59<jay_>I didn't change any settings what could be causing this issue?
12:02<amar_>pls active my account amarfb400@yahoo.com
12:02<JH>I was hoping someone could help point me in the right direction. If I am running MTR from Southern California -> Colorado using various ports such as 22, 80, 5060, and I am seeing up to 700ms latency on hop #1 for all three ports, would you say this might indicate a saturated interface on hop 1?
12:02<JH>Or perhaps a better explanation other than saturated port?
12:04<@jhaas>@jay_ That looks like an incorrect password from PHP > IMAP but I'm not certain
12:05<@jackley>jay_: a quick google search landed me here -- are you getting this error with imap_open? https://stackoverflow.com/a/25104454
12:05<@jhaas>amar_: Pleaes e-mail or call and we'll be happy to help.
12:05<@jackley>jay_: if so, it could be something as simple as an incorrect password... or something else. what troubleshooting have you tried so far?
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12:08<MattKrell>Hello. Is there a way to see the specs for each linode? I'm considering moving my current plan (Linode 4096) to Linode 8192 but I'm not sure what that gives me
12:08<@scrane>Hey there! You can see it here: https://www.linode.com/pricing
12:09<JH>Is this the wrong place to attempt to gain MTR support?
12:09<MattKrell>@scrane Thx, but that doesn't seem tell me which server is which!
12:10<JH>I followed a chat link from an article on your website: https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/diagnostics/diagnosing-network-issues-with-mtr
12:10<@scrane>JH: Just one moment, I'm gonna look into this in a sec.
12:10<@scrane>MattKrell: The 8GB Linode is Linode 8192
12:10<JH>Okay, thank you.
12:10<Eugene>!towel Zimsky
12:10<linbot>Eugene: Point taken from zimsky! (7)
12:11<dwfreed>JH: pastebin the output of 'mtr -rwb <wherever>' ?
12:11<@scrane>!point dwfreed
12:11<linbot>scrane: Point given to dwfreed. (28)
12:12<JH>pastebin, i.e. copy/pasta ?
12:12<@scrane>JH: Copy it to a site like pastebin then paste the link.
12:12<@jhaas>https://pastebin.com/
12:12<dwfreed>JH: so the plan names the manager displays are the memory in MB, whereas the pricing page uses the numbers in GB; just divide by 1024 (or 1000 and round, which works for most of them)
12:12<dwfreed>!p
12:12<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
12:12<dwfreed>erm
12:13<dwfreed>that last line should have been directed at MattKrell
12:13<dwfreed>MattKrell: so the plan names the manager displays are the memory in MB, whereas the pricing page uses the numbers in GB; just divide by 1024 (or 1000 and round, which works for most of them)
12:13<JH>Alright, stand by.
12:13<MattKrell>Scrane: how much storage is my existing one? linode 4096.
12:13<MattKrell>huh ok.
12:13<@scrane>MattKrell: 48GB most likely.
12:13<dwfreed>MattKrell: if your Linode 4096 doesn't have any free upgrades available, then you have 48 GB of storage
12:13<JH>https://pastebin.com/XCpQzC8q
12:14<dwfreed>that looks normal
12:14<@scrane>hgL That MTR looks pretty normal to me. Looks like you aren't getting any real high latency and no packet loss.
12:15<dwfreed>but if you're seeing high latency sporadically on the first hop, you should talk to your provider for that device
12:15<@jhaas>Could still just be ICMP rate-limiting though
12:15<JH>I am using the "'D'isplay mode" to show the last n number of pings, and the first hop are frequently showing "c" defined as, currently, 208 ms, but was at one point as bad as 701ms
12:15<MattKrell>mayby I'm just bad at math, but doing your trick looks like i have 4gb of memory not 48 which is what my manager is telling me
12:15<dwfreed>true
12:16<dwfreed>MattKrell: memory != storage
12:16<@jhaas>JH: In most cases you don't have to care about the earlier hops if the last one is fine.
12:16<dwfreed>MattKrell: 4096 / 1024 = 4
12:16<@scrane>MattKrell: the 4GB for your plan is RAM.
12:16<MattKrell>aaaah ok.
12:16<dwfreed>you have 4 GB of RAM and likely 48 GB of storage allocation
12:17<MattKrell>cool ok. How much storage is the Linode 8192? Can't seem to find the answer
12:17<MattKrell>(looking to upgrade storage, RAM's fine)
12:17<Peng>!pricing
12:17<linbot>https://www.linode.com/pricing
12:17<JH>That's what I read from the previously linked article, however I just found it odd that a 1 hop with in my network is producing such regular latency regardless of whether I use ICMP, or tcp ports such as 22, 80, and 5060
12:17<dwfreed>it's the Linode 8 GB on the pricing page
12:17<dwfreed>(answer: double)
12:18<dwfreed>JH: some providers configure their devices to ratelimit or deprioritize ICMP; this often is displayed as high latency on that hop that doesn't continue to later hops
12:18<JH>I figured if it was icmp rate limiting then I wouldn't necessarily see it on tcp ports, though that might be a faulty assumption
12:18<MattKrell>dwfreed: fantastic, thx for your help
12:19<dwfreed>JH: when doing the TCP test, the response is still ICMP
12:19<JH>okay, that explains it then
12:19<dwfreed>and it is the response that is ratelimited
12:19<@jhaas>Full disclosure MTR TCP in general is weird. I'd recommend hping3 for TCP.
12:19<JH>thank you.
12:20<JH>I'll look into it, do you know their official website?
12:20<dwfreed>jhaas: it's not that weird, but nginx doesn't really like it
12:20<@jhaas>I have had very strange output from it at times, once that looked like a routing loop where there was none, and once with garbled (looked like failed unicode) characters.
12:20<@jhaas>just saying ymmv
12:21<JH>Okay. Yeah, my initial suspicion was that I could not trust the data I was reading, but I think you might have helped confirm my suspicion. Thanks again.
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13:37<ahoneybun>heyo team
13:37<ahoneybun>I'm from the Kubuntu Council
13:37<ahoneybun>our sponsorship has run out and would like to talk about getting a new one perhaps
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13:39<synfinatic>ahoneybun no idea what you're talking about, but I'd talk to the person at Linode who you worked with in the past. i doubt anyone here can really help with that
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13:39<ahoneybun>I'm calling them direct now synfinatic now thanks
13:40<dwfreed>when I worked there, we directed people to email marketing@, but I seem to recall the correct email address has changed
13:41<dwfreed>but a phone call is a great way to reach the right person
13:43<ahoneybun>yea I just sent in an email to support@linode.com for now
13:45<dwfreed>if nothing else, they can direct you to the right place
13:45<ahoneybun>yea thanks all
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16:32*oje slaps bmartin around a bit with a large fishbot
16:32<oje>Good evening house
16:32<@bmartin>Well that's upsetting
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16:33<@bmartin>Hello
16:33<oje> I,am new here i really need some vital info please
16:33<@bmartin>what's up?
16:34<oje>I want to use Linode cloud base server to host my database application
16:35<oje>does this platform support user with Windows server?
16:37<oje>and if it does, can i make my database application that is being hosted public [i.e. it can be accessed through a URL on the internet]
16:39<@bmartin>So while we are predominantly a linux based system the user has freedom to install what they'd like
16:39<@bmartin>We don't officially support windows but I know a few users have set that up
16:39<@bmartin>I'm pulling up a guide I found now. One moment
16:40<relidy>!winode
16:40<linbot>It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501
16:40<oje>ok because i am not conversant with installing applications on Linux OS
16:41<@bmartin>https://gist.github.com/EugeneKay/1ff78396b57f25e69f1d
16:41<@bmartin>that one as well
16:42<oje>ok thanks a million
16:42<oje>so Is there any admin person that will work me through the process of making my platform public?
16:43<Eugene>That gist is out of date and should not be used. My notes in the PR linked are much better
16:45<@scrane>Eugene, you're a real hero.
16:45<@jhaas>Every day he's winodin?
16:45<Eugene>I've actually had Oliver shut down for a few weeks. I had an AD replication problem and it ate its face
16:46<relidy>!point jhaas
16:46<linbot>relidy: Point given to jhaas. (-6)
16:46<@scrane>oje because Windows is not supported by us, Linode Support wouldn't really be able to provide much information, but I'm sure you can ask your questions here or in the forums and see if someone can point you in the right direction.
16:46<relidy>Oh, right
16:46<@jhaas>ah! it burns!
16:46<@scrane>!unpoint jhaas
16:46<linbot>scrane: 1,000,000 points for jhaas!!!
16:46<relidy>!boo jhaas
16:46<linbot>relidy: Point taken from jhaas! (-7)
16:46<relidy>!boo jhaas
16:46<linbot>relidy: Point taken from jhaas! (-8)
16:46<@jhaas><3
16:47<relidy>You're so far in the lead, jhaas, that no one will ever catch you!
16:47<@jhaas>B-)
16:50<Karrde>!unpoint linbot
16:50<linbot>Karrde: Point taken from linbot! (1337)
16:50<linbot>Karrde: :|
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18:02<mgrimes>I'm interested in running a couple CoreOS nodes on Linode.
18:02<mgrimes>I can't figure out how to configure private IPs and have them survive reboots.
18:04<mgrimes>Does Linode support Ignition configs? Is there better way?
18:07<relidy>The only thing I know about CoreOS and Linode is that there's this guide: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/use-coreos-container-linux-on-linode
18:11<mgrimes>relidy: I did see that. It got my hopes up. :-)
18:12<mgrimes>I'm a CoreOS noob. I don't really know if changes to the fs will survive the CoreOS updates.
18:13<mgrimes>I just manually initiated an upgrade with `update_engine_client -check_for_update
18:13<mgrimes>We'll see what happens!
18:40<mgrimes>Well imagine that. Seems the fs is preserved. I guess I can just do a normal systemd-network setup.
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20:36<Anand>Hi ChanServ
20:37<Anand>At present i have 40 plus wordpress websites and one magento 2.1 website in a shared hosting, one wordpress website in a VPS hosting and other websites in a reseller hosting
20:37<Anand>I want to move everything under one roof. I need one WHM for myself and cpanel for all other domains
20:38<millisa>!cpanel
20:38<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
20:39<Anand>Can i give Webmin for individual domains
20:40<millisa>If you know how to do that; it's your system. Linode supplies the vps, you install the OS and any other software. Haven't heard of someone putting webmin on a cpanel box before.
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20:57<HoopyCat>it is widely believed that the death of CAKER's only earthly Son, XEN, absolved us from having to obey many of the restrictions of the Old Testsuite, e.g. the prohibition on Webmin and cPanel laying together
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21:14*f8 anoints himself in the blood of KVM.
21:16<f8>I think this means the ticketing/billing system is the Holy Spirit and IRC is prayer.
21:16<Zimsky>BLOOD
21:16<Zimsky>religion smells of fish :(
21:18<Ikaros>Think that's you Zimsky
21:18<f8>What do you think we all came from clouds?! Bow to the one true VPS!
21:18<Zimsky>Ikaros: ever had a yeast infection?
21:18<millisa>1 API to rule them all. 1 zone file to bind them.
21:20*f8 begins to read descriptions of API function calls in Latin.
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21:39<nick>Does Linode block email or usually have blocked IP addresses like digital ocean. I currently have a server running on debian on digital ocean and I cannot send email to HOTMAIL or OUTLOOK.
21:39<nick>?
21:40<millisa>Linode doesn't filter except in cases of abuse.
21:40<millisa>As far as I knew, DO doesn't either...
21:41<nick>millisa Do people have trouble sending email to outlook or hotmail addresses when using Linode?
21:41<nick>DO is good but I need an alternative.
21:41<Zimsky>you should probably look at your logs
21:41<Zimsky>and see why they're not being delivered
21:41<millisa>What Zimsky said, Bobby. Check your logs. There's probably a reason they are denying the mail
21:41<Zimsky>if there's connection problems, try manually opening SMTP connections
21:41<HoopyCat>nick: microsoft traditionally has really stringent requirements on accepting mail, as well
21:42<HoopyCat>nick: https://mail.live.com/mail/postmaster.aspx
21:42<Zimsky>millisa: you sure?
21:42<Zimsky>millisa: last octet isn't the same, and I thought it was static
21:42<millisa>if you do the forward/reverse/helo matchup, that goes a long way to improving delivery. Doing other good things like setting spf helps too
21:42<nick>http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors with error 550 SC-001
21:43<millisa>Zimsky: (nope, not sure, don't think it's been static though)
21:43<Zimsky>millisa: it's always been the same address
21:43<Zimsky>¿?
21:43<nick>Blocked IP.
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21:43<synfinatic>msft is annoying when it comes to mail. they blocked my IP because an 80 year old guy accidentially marked an email my wife sent him as spam. finally jumped through enough hoops to make it work
21:44<Zimsky>microsoft are twats
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21:44<synfinatic>also, i do very very little email with msft. i think we know 3 people with outlook.com/live.com email addrs
21:45<synfinatic>so not much reputation to go on i guess
21:45<nick>Seems like every email I receive comes from hotmail or outlook.
21:45<Zimsky>google is pretty much always fine as long as you've got your dns aligned, SPF records set, DKIM and DMARC
21:46<Zimsky>though the last isn't entirely necessary
21:46<synfinatic>yeah, SPF/DKIM help. haven't done dmarc yet
21:48<Zimsky>dmarc is easy
21:48<Zimsky>_dmarc.google.com. 293 IN TXT "v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; rua=mailto:mailauth-reports@google.com"
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22:46<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel. https://i.imgur.com/qK4Dz8D.jpg
22:47<dwfreed>yay concrete
22:47<millisa>what's in the box?
22:48<Zimsky>more bo
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22:50<Eugene>Its a bunch of pre-fabricated panels.
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22:51<millisa>and the concrete is to put down a path so you can run quicker between assemblers?
22:51<Eugene>Walls, to keep in the biters(dogs)
22:51<Eugene>Did I say biters? I mean spitters.
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23:39<JosephCocoa_>Hello everyone!
23:39<JosephCocoa_>Anyone having issues getting into manager.linode.com?
23:39<JosephCocoa_>seems to be down for me
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23:39<millisa>I just logged in fine. peppy
23:40<JosephCocoa_>yeah, just barely came back up for me
23:40<JosephCocoa_>:-/
23:40<JosephCocoa_>must have been a hiccup
23:40<millisa>https://www.howtotrainyourdragon.com/images/uploads/humans/_1095/humans_hero_hiccup.jpg
23:41<JosephCocoa_>i blame him
23:41<JosephCocoa_>and his dragons
23:41<JosephCocoa_>:P
23:41<JosephCocoa_>can't trust dragons
23:58<Zimsky>especially bad ones
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