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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-10-06

---Logopened Fri Oct 06 00:00:27 2017
00:03<zifnab>well, the internet says cancer
00:03<zifnab>you should get that checkd out
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00:11<Eugene>Have you tried getting turned off and back on again
00:21<Nightmare>You know it babe
00:24<Zimsky>Eugene: not when you've got all the towels
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03:13<dcraig>urmom's still on xen
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06:01<kalish>we wish to do penetration testing, Shall we need to give further notification to linode team
06:08<kalish>we wish to do penetration testing, Shall we need to give any further notification to linode team
06:17<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • what is Social Media Engagement off page technique? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15306&p=74752#p74752> || General Discussion • what is infographic submission? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15305&p=74751#p74751>
06:19<kalish>we wish to do penetration testing, Shall we need to give further notification to linode team
06:21<hawk>kalish: Maybe contact Linode directly?
06:22<kalish>Hi Hawk, Can you give contact no for linode(I am in India)
06:24<Peng>When did you send it?
06:24<kalish>4 hours before
06:24<Peng>Wait a bit longer?
06:25<Peng>It's not a simple request.
06:25<kalish>ok, we need this information urgently, any other way contact linode customer support.
06:25<ponas>+1 609-380-7100
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06:26<Peng>You can't expect that kind of question to be answered immediately
06:26<kalish>ok ponas, I will try +1 609-380-7100
06:26<ponas>Peng is right though
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07:27<kalish>we wish to do penetration testing, Shall we need to give any further notification to linode team
07:28<hawk>*sigh*
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07:30<kalish>we wish to do penetration testing, Shall we need to give any further notification to linode team
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07:39<acresearch>hello linode people. I have registered a node and I want to turn it into a website server. thing is, can i split a node into two seperate servers?
07:45<DrJ>you mean host multiple sites?
07:45<DrJ>if so, yes. You can host as many websites as your resources allow
07:46<DrJ>if you literally mean you want to order a new linode and move some things over to it, also yes.
07:46<acresearch>DrJ: well, i meant, i want a (computer) to run a website, and another to do other things not related to this website
07:47<DrJ>in that case you would need to order (and thus pay for) a second linode
07:47<acresearch>oh ok
07:47<DrJ>but keep in mind, one server can host a website and do other non-related things just fine in almost all cases
07:48<DrJ>it's up to you, but you might want to ask yourself if seperating the tasks is absolutely neccessary
07:49<acresearch>DrJ: i know, this was my initial setup, run a server that hosts a website, but also run other scripts, but i don't know i feel better if these things are seperated
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08:18<poky>Hello! I can I know what is wrong with my website loading? THere is nothing in log files.
08:18<poky>www.bbin.in
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08:23<poky>Nevermind. It is working everywhere else. It was just for me. DNS problem i guess...
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10:18<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Datacenter in India <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14387&p=74753#p74753>
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10:32<sam_>hello, i am new on linode, i am having some prob...
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10:34<sam_>i am using POS on the server and its not working. will you guide me plz?
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11:18<synfinatic>wow, violent
11:23<Peng>Aren't you glad to have a nick at the bottom of the alphabet
11:24<synfinatic>makes up for the fact my IRLN starts with two a's
11:26<smallclone>aaron? are there other names that start with two a's?
11:29<dzho>"in real life name"?
11:29<synfinatic>it is aaron. i can neither confirm or deny there are others
11:30<synfinatic>dzho +1
11:30<dzho>I'm laughing right now
11:30<dzho>also, well done giving the Glomar Response
11:30<synfinatic>i'm happy to hear I may have made your friday slightly more amusing then anticipated
11:31<HoopyCat>Meatspace Identifier
11:32<HoopyCat>which may be my new job title, stby
11:38*dzho sighs
11:39<AlexMax>so uh
11:39<AlexMax>what's this about a migration?
11:39<AlexMax>on October 11th?
11:39<AlexMax>that I just got an e-mail about?
11:39<AlexMax>I think i knew about it a few weeks ago, but i've forgotten what the reasoning it
11:39<AlexMax>is
11:40<dzho>they don't exactly say
11:41<dzho>if your situation is like mine was, your choice is to wait until they force the migration, choose to migrate early, or ... I guess, shut everything down and quit using them?
11:41<synfinatic>there is a Xen security advisory going out on Oct 12. going to guess the two are related
11:41<dzho>speculation is that there is a hardware problem with the host, or a security adviso ... that
11:42<dzho>that said, mine was a KVM host so <*shrug*>
11:42<dzho>(also, a different deadline to migrate)
11:42<Peng>Dallas?
11:52<dzho>mine was Newark, dunno where AlexMax is
11:54<AlexMax>Hot-lanta
11:54<AlexMax>Also yeah, I'm 99% sure we're a KVM host
11:57<Peng>1 whole month of uptime!
12:08<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Introducing CoreOS Container Linux on Linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14887&p=74754#p74754>
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12:52<dwfreed>you will be happy to know that slap is now dead
12:52<relidy>!point dwfreed
12:52<linbot>relidy: Point given to dwfreed. (29) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 6)
12:58<AlexMax>slap cam?
12:59<smallclone>!point dwfreed
12:59<linbot>smallclone: Point given to dwfreed. (30) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 6)
12:59<smallclone>finally
13:02<Peng>dwfreed: and i never even made a bot to automatically slap an oper every time someone used it
13:04<dwfreed>"this can't be *that* hard to fix" "no, no it isn't" *deletes 5 lines*
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13:18<hdb2>sooooo...any word on what might be going on in Dallas?
13:18<Peng>What is going on in Dallas?
13:19<HoopyCat>hdb2: nothin' on status.linode.com yet, and you're the first person to mention dallas within the last couple of hours
13:19<hdb2>a bunch of our servers went down out of nowhere, then I got a ticket from support about emergency maintenance
13:19<Peng>:X
13:19<hdb2>"We have detected an issue affecting the physical host your Linode resides on."
13:19<dwfreed>hosts fail
13:20<HoopyCat>well, that would be what's going on then :>
13:20<dwfreed>hardware isn't perfect
13:20<synfinatic>but my linode doesn't run on hardware. it runs in the cloud!
13:20<HoopyCat>(may want to ensure your linodes aren't all on the same host...)
13:20<hdb2>dwfreed: true, but knowing exactly what failed is incredibly important.
13:20<dwfreed>they aren't going to tell you that
13:21<hdb2>dwfreed: yup, and that's my point. "hardware isn't perfect" really isn't what I'm looking for here. but I was just jumping in to chat, not demand answers.
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13:21<hdb2>sorry I came off that way.
13:22<synfinatic>i'm sure linode knows exactly what failed
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13:22<Peng>hdb2: I didn't think you came off that way, but they don't usually go into detail for small outages.
13:22<Peng>Not that it feels small, or even is small. But if it's not half the data center...
13:23<synfinatic>for widespread outages they do. but yeah, for an individual KVM host. nope
13:23<hdb2>Peng: good point.
13:25<HoopyCat>can't hurt to reply to the ticket once stuff is back up tho
13:25<hdb2>HoopyCat: oh for sure we will, the folks in support are very good to us and we try to do right by them, too.
13:28<smallclone>if it's a bunch of servers it's probably either a host power issue or a networking issue, most likely
13:28<smallclone>one of those is possibly Linode's fault (though not definitely) while the other is mostly out of their control
13:29<Peng>When a whole data center falls over, more people usually notice, though.
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13:29<Peng>So, SPEAKING HYPOTHETICALLY PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME, maybe a PDU failed and took down a rack or something.
13:30<Peng>I can't imagine Dallas 1 has emptied out so much that it could go down without a bigger splash
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13:31<hdb2>yea, I don't try to find fault with things like this, b/c as dwfreed said hardware isn't perfect. but I do like to know if I need to be working on failover or just waiting it out. as I said before, the folks at Linode are great, I'm just digging for info.
13:31<dwfreed>it's usually back up in 15-20 minutes
13:31<dwfreed>HA is a good idea if uptime is important to you
13:34<hdb2>dwfreed: that's probably the most important lesson I'm getting out of this.
13:34<hdb2>I haven't really spent much time with that, but maybe I should.
13:34<Peng>dwfreed: In THE CLOUD you can inadvertantly HA over servers six inches apart. :P
13:35<hdb2>https://status.linode.com/incidents/qlbmtkbpwk58
13:35<dwfreed>you can ask Linode to separate your HA Linodes onto different infra
13:36<linbot>New news from status: Service Issue - Lish Dallas <https://status.linode.com/incidents/qlbmtkbpwk58>
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14:22<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
14:36<zifnab>Eugene: Every day I'm fartin'
14:36<zifnab>this is actually true
14:36<Zimsky>Every day I'm Zimsky.
14:36<zifnab>the average human on the average day farts half a liter of air
14:36<Zimsky>on the days that I'm not Zimsky, I'm Zimksy
14:37<Zimsky>zifnab: 25% of your energy is used for your eyesight alone
14:37<zifnab>Zimsky: i would actually believe taht
14:37<Zimsky>zifnab: vaccines cause autism
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14:47<HoopyCat>cloud computing causes cancer(*)
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14:53<zifnab>HoopyCat causes cancer
14:57<@jspinosi>@zifnab the last plane I was on smelled like someone was above average
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16:06<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE
16:06<HoopyCat>Yaakov <3 <3 <3
16:06<@mcintosh>Yaakov: <3!
16:07<Yaakov>Howdy, Hoop.
16:07<Yaakov>Hello, mcintosh.
16:07<dwfreed>Yaakov!
16:07<Yaakov>dwfreed!
16:08<HoopyCat>Yaakov: how's the things?
16:09<Yaakov>Pretty darned good locally, pure crap globally. You?
16:10<HoopyCat>Yaakov: i am doing amazingly ok
16:10<Yaakov>Excellent.
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16:11<Yaakov>I too find my circumstances startlingly adequate.
16:12<Leidy>Hello, I would like the response time of you, for a support
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16:13<dwfreed>Leidy: it varies wildly depending on current load
16:13<dwfreed>Leidy: if it's important, you can always call them
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16:22<Peng>Yaakov: <3 <3
16:22<Yaakov>Peng!
16:36<HoopyCat>Yaakov: my circumstances have been... unexpectedly interesting
16:36<Yaakov>HoopyCat: You've discovered you are a Bohemian Princeling?
16:37<HoopyCat>Yaakov: more of a princess
16:37<Yaakov>That would be surprising.
16:38<HoopyCat>Yaakov: (a lot of things make a lot of sense tho)
16:39<Yaakov>HoopyCat: Well, I do hope that you are feeling good about yourself and life.
16:41<HoopyCat>Yaakov: generally yes! :3 (thanks in no small part to a therapist, an endocrinologist, and a divorce attorney)
16:41<millisa>So, a therapist, an endocrinologist, and a divorce attorney walk into a bar...
16:41<Yaakov>That sounds like a "walk into a bar" joke...
16:41<millisa>!point yaakov
16:41<linbot>millisa: Point given to yaakov. (1)
16:42<Yaakov>linbot: wx ksbn
16:42<linbot>Yaakov: [metar] OBS at KSBN: 64.4F/18C, visibility 2 miles, wind 3.45 mph, chill 65.74F (altimeter: 29.97) [KSBN 061954Z 10003KT 2 1/2SM BR FEW017 BKN050 OVC075 18/18 A2997 RMK AO2 RAE00]
16:42<Yaakov>Wow... is that still me?
16:42<@mcintosh>it is!
16:43<Yaakov>Well blow me down!
16:43<Yaakov>!groucho
16:43<linbot>Yaakov: Getting older is no problem. You just have to live long enough.
16:43<Yaakov>Well whaddayaknow...
16:45<HoopyCat>it's less of a "walk into a bar" joke and more of a "walk out with my paycheck" lamentation
16:47<Yaakov>HoopyCat: Well, I really do hope it all settles out very well for you. It's not an easy thing, even if you feel it is the righ thing.
16:47<Yaakov>t
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16:51<HoopyCat>Yaakov: thank you... every day gets a little bit better =^.^=
16:51<Yaakov>Stellar.
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16:57<Yaakov>HoopyCat: I've taken up photography and expect to make some money at it soon.
16:57<Yaakov>Oh, did I mention I have retired from the university?
16:58<dzho>which one was that?
16:58<Yaakov>The one at which I was employed, of course!
16:58<dzho>(maybe I knew, but forgot?)
16:59<Yaakov>University of Notre Dame
16:59<dzho>uh
16:59<dzho>no wonder you quit, with a commute like that
16:59<dzho>aren't you a little far from South Bend?
16:59<Yaakov>15 years, longest single employment I've had. Very unusual for me, but 15 years...
16:59<Yaakov>Not at all, no.
17:00<HoopyCat>Yaakov: congratulations on retirement!
17:00<Yaakov>Nor from Notre Dame, IN.
17:00<Yaakov>HoopyCat: Thanks. I am exceedingly fortunate and grateful.
17:00<dzho>I'll be darned.
17:02<Yaakov>Darn you to heck, dzho!
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17:03<dzho>so you would have been there when we were thinking of relocating there.
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17:03<dzho>I was already well into Linux etc but the dude I spoke with was still quite hung up on SGI's
17:04<dzho>like, this Linux thing wasn't going to pan out.
17:04<Yaakov>dzho: That would have been... hmm... Pat Flynn?
17:04<Yaakov>SGIs running Windows NT!
17:04<dzho>eek
17:05<dzho>I don't remember the name, we'd have been coming in through chemistry and biochem
17:05<dzho>but NT, seriously?
17:05<dzho>yow.
17:05<dzho>oh, wait!
17:05<dzho>this was the first round, so >15 years.
17:05<dzho>NEVERMIND
17:06*dzho sighs
17:07<Yaakov>I was in Engineering at first, then both colleges.
17:07<dzho>well, congratulations all the same!
17:08<Yaakov>Thanks, it's a great thing. I'd never have predicted it.
17:08<Yaakov>I enjoyed my time there, but I am also happy to be out.
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17:12<HoopyCat>i am amazingly lucky to be working where i am now. the grass is indeed greener sometimes :3
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17:16<Yaakov>We have a beautiful new home, and with the freedom of retirement I can really enjoy it.
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17:21<HoopyCat>Yaakov: awwesommmeeeeee! how's the kids?
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17:22<Yaakov>HoopyCat: They are doing very well. Only one really still home, the only minor.
17:23<HoopyCat>coolcool
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18:36<Rainbow>yo HoopyCat
18:38<HoopyCat>meowmeow!
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20:19<pithecus>happy friday
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