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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-10-14

---Logopened Sat Oct 14 00:00:01 2017
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00:00<FSTABMAKR>hello, could anyone help me with moving my XFS linode to a EXT4 disk?
00:01<Peng_>Two disk images, rescue mode (if it's the boot disk), rsync with about a dozen flags.
00:01<Nightmare>What do you need help with?
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00:10<ardipithecus>cp
00:11<ardipithecus>what's the problem?
00:12<dwfreed>cp doesn't preserve everything
00:12<dwfreed>which is why you do rsync "with about a dozen flags"
00:13<Zimsky>dd it
00:13<dwfreed>how would that help
00:14<dwfreed>he's trying to change filesystems
00:14<Zimsky>never said it would help
00:14<millisa>step 1, dd dev/zero to drive needing new filesystem...
00:14<Peng_>-ahvAHPSXX, i think. (A couple are optional display things.) Plus a few more if the source and destination are on separate systems.
00:16<ardipithecus>if we only knew what he/she/it wanted. Only one line posted.
00:16<ardipithecus>It could be anywhere from a family albulm to space aliens
00:17<ardipithecus>I think FSTABMAKR ... FUBAR
00:18<FSTABMAKR>Sorry, i started working on it myself, I was seeing if in my new FSTAB conf if I can replace the UUID with the label of the drive, but after reading fstab man i found my answer
00:18<Peng_>All of those letters (except -U) are rsync options. :P
00:19<ardipithecus>space aliens it is
00:19<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Increase image limit to 4GB <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15032&p=74761#p74761>
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00:20<ardipithecus>FSTABMAKR found no intelligent life on planet earth
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00:29<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • I am disappointed with linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15335&p=74828#p74828>
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00:49<Eugene>!lick zifnab
00:49<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (10) (Biggest fan: eugene, total: 6)
00:49<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • I am disappointed with linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15335&p=74829#p74829>
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00:59<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • I am disappointed with linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15335&p=74830#p74830>
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01:04<ardipithecus>such a nice guy that garyjoe in the referenced linke above.
01:04<ardipithecus>I couldn't understand wth he was saying in that post.
01:07<ardipithecus>He's one of those "help me with my pressing problem". ... "where's my answer". Instead of "How do I ____ DNS for my domain".
01:10<linbot>New news from forum: Customer Testimonials • I am disappointed with linode <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15335&p=74831#p74831>
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03:35<test133>can you offer me a Promo Code
03:35<millisa>there's usually one at the top of the getting started guide and other docs
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05:26<linbot>New news from status: Support Ticket Outage <https://status.linode.com/incidents/qlttrc0w1v9p>
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05:29<baldmark>Hi. Just signed up using javascriptjabber page and the promotion code (that the site populates itself) is coming up as invalid. Can anyone from Linode help?
05:39<@rsyracuse>baldmark: It looks like that promocode may have only been valid through last year. That being said, if you enter the promocode "Docs10" on your signup you should get $10 credit on your new account
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05:43<AArani>Anyone knows about linode servicing to Iran ?
05:49<@jhaas>AArani: I apologize, but as Linode is a US-based company, we wouldn't be able to do business with any individuals or companies based in Iran due to US embargoes and trade policies.
05:50<@jhaas>(If you're asking if people in Iran can access websites/servers hosted with linode, the answer is yes.)
05:51<AArani>@jhaas Ok tnx good to know but as i do know you was capable of servicing out-of-us services
05:51<AArani>even with USA Laws
05:52<AArani>i mean Singapore tokyo and etc countries
05:53<AArani>Anyway tnx :)
05:54<microvb>good morning
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05:55<ponas>:(
05:55<ponas>poor Iran
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07:42<ardipithecus>You ran?
07:57<rsdehart>you ran so far away?
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08:15<ardipithecus>Iran, you ran, we ran
08:16<ardipithecus>Iraq, you rock, we rock
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10:27<linbot>New news from status: Linode Manager and API Maintenance: October 18, 2017 <https://status.linode.com/incidents/8kbxs5rdh49k>
10:35<ardipithecus>yahoo its fixed
10:36<Zimsky>yahoo was broken?
10:36<Zimsky>who even uses yahoo
10:39<ardipithecus>yahoo has been broken for decades
10:39<@jhaas>I miss you Jeeves.
10:40<Zimsky>don't talk to yourself like that jhaas
10:41<Zimsky>you're still there
10:41<Zimsky>Jeeves Haas
10:42<@jhaas>Never expected to get doxed in #linode
10:42<Zimsky>nobody does
10:42<ardipithecus>first time I used a search engine was webcrawler
10:43<Zimsky>you're old enough to be a web crawler itself
10:43<Zimsky>jhaas: thank you for spelling it with one x
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10:46<@jhaas>#expresso
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12:32<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15337&p=74832#p74832>
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14:02<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Increase image limit to 4GB <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15032&p=74761#p74761>
14:22<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Im glad I now registered <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15338&p=74833#p74833>
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15:08<microvb>is anyone on from Linode staff ? (not afk) . I am trying to get information about the process to register an application so I can begin development with your API.
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15:33<dwfreed>microvb: https://developers.linode.com/v4/introduction
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15:33<dwfreed>that covers everything
15:34<dwfreed>in particular, https://developers.linode.com/v4/access
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15:35<baldmark>rsyracuse: Thanks for response but...this is a promotion announced on a very recent podcast that tells you to visit a page. That page sends you to the new account form pre-populating the promo code field with a promo code that contains the text "2017". I find it unlilkely that this was last year's promo.
15:36<dwfreed>it's possible the podcast has the wrong info
15:37<microvb>i don't see where it shows where i get my application id
15:37<dwfreed>you make one in the manager
15:37<dwfreed>https://developers.linode.com/v4/reference/endpoints/account/oauth-clients is the v4 API method to make one
15:38<microvb>ah. thank you.
15:38<microvb>usually there is a form or something, i type a name, hit a button ... get the authcode/client id --- then on to the oauth stuff after :)
15:40<dwfreed>https://cloud.linode.com/profile/clients
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20:43<Stargate>Hello
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20:44<Stargate>I used Linode a few years ago, coming back to it now. I tried connecting to it via SFTP using CuteFTP but I kep getting an error. I thought it was server side. I used another ftp program and I was able to login. Anyone know why I can't login using CuteFTP?
20:44<Stargate>I used CuteFTP years ago just fine.
20:45<dwfreed>I don't see anything that indicates CuteFTP supports SFTP
20:45<dwfreed>vs FTPS (which is a different protocol)
20:46<kyhwana>What's the actual error?
20:47<Stargate>I get
20:47<Stargate>ERROR:> [10/14/2017 7:46:57 PM] Disconnect: key exchange failed. ERROR:> [10/14/2017 7:46:57 PM] Check security settings; make sure that the username and password are correct, and that the chosen encryption algorithms are supported by server.
20:47<dwfreed>it's possible CuteFTP doesn't support modern standards
20:48<dwfreed>log in with SSH and look at /var/log/auth.log, there's probably a message there about mismatched hash algorithms or the like
20:48<Stargate>ok let me check it out
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20:51<Stargate>Oct 15 00:46:53 localhost sshd[16768]: fatal: Unable to negotiate with 24.175.97.111 port 65108: no matching cipher found. Their offer: 3des-cbc,arcfour,cast128-cbc,twofish-cbc,blowfish-cbc,twofish128-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes256-cbc [preauth]
20:51<Peng_>Yuck
20:52<kyhwana>hmm, openssh doesn't do aes256-cbc by default?
20:52<Stargate>?
20:53<Peng_>I thought it did, but it's been discouraged for years due to that padding oracle vulnerability or whatever.
20:53<Peng_>OpenSSH finally started disabling obsolete crypto a few years ago
20:53<kyhwana>huh
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20:54<Peng_>In my version, the default is ChaCha20-Poly1305, AES-GCM and AES-CTR.
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20:55<kyhwana>ah, looks like it, yeah
20:55<kyhwana>Stargate: so cuteftp doesn't support any of the new secure ciphers. (just the old crap ones)
20:56<Peng_>It doesn't even support the old secure ones
20:56<Stargate>ok thanks!
20:57<Stargate>Does that mean that I've bee voulnerable this whole time?
20:57<Stargate>I've been*
20:57<kyhwana>nah
20:57<Peng_>How vulnerable is vulnerable?
20:58<Peng_>Stargate: Assuming CuteFTP doesn't have other security vulnerabilities, it's not a big deal.
20:59<Stargate>Well, I am really paranoid right now that someone has been hijacking some of my traffic for one of my sites.
20:59<Stargate>But I haven't found any proof.
20:59<Peng_>No one has been attacking you via RC4 or CBC SSH ciphers.
20:59<Peng_>They might be attacking you other ways, including ways related to your SSH software.
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21:00<Peng_>RC4 (arcfour) is a crappy cipher but probably no one is exploiting it. Maybe NSA is exploiting it, but that's on the paranoid end.
21:00<Peng_>The SSH CBC attack is relatively impractical. https://www.openssh.com/txt/cbc.adv
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21:02<Stargate>There was a news story of a systems administrator hacking into Hostgator's servers. Stuff like this makes me very paranoid.
21:03<Cromulent>Stargate: just install the ubuntu command line tools for Windows 10 and use the SSH client in that
21:04<Cromulent>command line
21:04<Stargate>I am using Putty for all my SSH stuff
21:05<Stargate>I like CuteFTP because I could navigate the folders easily, and the inhouse Notpad editor was convenient.
21:05<Cromulent>I got put off PuTTY because you have to convert your SSH keys into its format
21:06<Stargate>Is there anything wrong with just typing in your password?
21:06<Cromulent>SSH keys are safer
21:07<kyhwana>Stargate: Is that a strong (randomly generated) unique password box?
21:07<Stargate>It's a random password I created that I use nowhere else.
21:08<kyhwana>Then as long as you don't accidently type that somewhere you shouldn't or get key loggered, meh
21:08<dwfreed>Cromulent: meh, the conversion process is super easy
21:08<dwfreed>Cromulent: then you just load the key into Pagent and never have to worry about it again
21:08<waltman>I just rebooted to pick up the new kernel. Only 26 seconds of downtime. A new personal record!
21:09<Cromulent>eh I'll just stick to using the Windows 10 linux command line
21:09<dwfreed>waltman: 26 seconds? an eternity!
21:09<Stargate>I am looking at this auth log here, and I am seeing some Ip's trying to login.
21:10<dwfreed>welcome to the Internet, people try to brute force all the time
21:10<Stargate>That's alarming.
21:10<dwfreed>it's normal
21:10<waltman>dwfreed: I saw that chart yesterday too. :) Still seems fast to me!
21:10<dwfreed>as long as your passwords are secure (or you don't allow password logins), you're fine
21:11<kyhwana>Stargate: that happens all the time, this is why you eithe rmake sure all the accounts have unique random passwords or use keypairs only/2fa
21:11<Stargate>Ok.
21:12<Peng_>They're mostly banging on things like "admin" and "1234" all day
21:12<Stargate>That's comforting. :)
21:12<Stargate>I noticed someone tried to login using the user "admin"
21:13<Cromulent>if you want to cut down log spam change the SSH port
21:13<kyhwana>(To a port <1024)
21:14<Stargate>Ok let me look that up.
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21:14<Peng_>(I thought using Telnet's port was funny until Mirai started scanning it.)
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21:15<Stargate>What's a good port to choose? I don't want to pick a port that's used by something else
21:15<Peng_>I'd stick with the normal SSH port
21:15<Stargate>Ok then.
21:15<Stargate>Less work to be done.
21:15<Stargate>Wouldn't the log get filled up really quick? Does it prune itself?
21:16<Cromulent>log rotate
21:16<Peng_>Your OS should already be configured to rotate, compress, and delete old SSH logs.
21:16<Peng_>It shouldn't waste more than a few MB
21:17<Stargate>ok
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