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01:36<mnathani>Centos7 I keep getting Kernel update is prohibited on your system.
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01:36<mnathani>Remove exclude kernel option from /etc/yum.conf
01:36<mnathani>I remove them, but it shows up again
01:38<millisa>What command are you running and what is the exact output?
01:38<mnathani>I am trying to install cloudlinux
01:38<mnathani>on centos 7 / cpanel
01:39<mnathani>Command is "sh cldeploy -k <ActivationKey>"
01:39<mnathani>Output is "Kernel update is prohibited on your system."
01:39<millisa>are you running with the linode kernel?
01:39<mnathani>"Remove exclude kernel option from /etc/yum.conf and run this script again."
01:39<mnathani>no, I switched to system kernel
01:40<mnathani>uname -a > Linux example.com 3.10.0-693.2.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 12 22:26:13 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
01:40<mnathani>does full virtualization vs para virtualization make a difference here?
01:45<dwfreed>exclude kernel might be added by distro helper
01:46<mnathani>disabling distrohelper now
01:57<mnathani>no dice
01:57<millisa>and the kernel line just keeps reappearing in your /etc/yum.conf?
01:58<mnathani>it does
01:58<millisa>how long does it take?
01:58<dwfreed>that seems, odd
01:58<mnathani>not sure how long, I havent timed it
01:58<millisa>like if you edit the exclude line, and just sit there, does it change back without doing anything else?
01:58<mnathani>after a minute it does not
01:59<mnathani>but once I run my command and check after, it has changed
01:59<millisa>does it change back after a reboot if you don't run the cloudlinux script?
01:59<mnathani>I am wondering if I should chatter +i or something
02:00<mnathani>rebooting now to check if it changes back
02:00<mnathani>chattr rather
02:00<mnathani>immutable
02:01<millisa>using auditctl to see when the file changes might help?
02:02<mnathani>All this non-standard behavior makes me want to use a provider that lets me install my own OS, so I know it hasnt been tampered with
02:07<@scrane>mnathani: You are free to install a custom distribution if you wish. https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
02:09<@scrane>This might also be helpful: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distribution-supplied-kernel-with-kvm
02:09<millisa>he's probably got that one; his uname showed the current centos7 kernel
02:10<@scrane>Ah, cool cool I missed that.
02:19*dcraig tickles millisa around a bit with a large gudgeon
02:19<dcraig>there's some nonstandard behavior for ya ;)
02:20<millisa>just got my cloudlinux trial; figured i'd try it out on a brand new linode
02:21<dcraig>is linode cloud?
02:26*linbot cloud
02:29<linbot>cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud
02:29<@rsyracuse>dcraig: I think that most people would consider us a part of the cloud since so much of what we offer is done remotely, but that's totally up to interpretation
02:29<dwfreed>"cloud" is a poorly defined term
02:30<dwfreed>the *aaS acronyms are much more useful
02:30<dcraig>I just being a doofus, no response required
02:30<FluffyFoxeh>is dcraig cloud?
02:30<dcraig>yes!
02:31<dcraig>sign me up for dwfreed as a service btw
02:31<millisa>mnathani: I registered at cloudlinux, got a trial key, spun up a 1gb linode in dfw, switched it to grub2 with distribution kernel, downloaded the cldeploy script and ran it with my trial key.
02:32<dwfreed>dcraig: that costs $100/hr
02:33<dcraig>no problem, seems cheap
02:33<dwfreed>millisa: you missed the "it worked just fine" part
02:33<millisa>still watching it.
02:33<millisa>it's installed their kernel; pretty sure it's past the yum.conf check
02:33<dwfreed>millisa: and, technically speaking, you aren't in Dallas
02:34<millisa>the sprawl would have to crept pretty far
02:35<dwfreed>I mean your Linode
02:35<millisa>richardson?
02:35<dwfreed>yeah
02:35<millisa>(it just completed)
02:36<Peng_>Dallas 1 was in actual Dallas, wasn't it? #downgrade #fakenews #lies
02:36<Peng_>(and you'll never guess where Newark is!)
02:37<millisa>looks like it converted to cloudlinux 7.4 ok. i didn't turn distro helper off. didn't see any exclude line show up in yum.conf
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02:38<millisa>networkhelper complained when lassie tried to boot it saying that it could not reliably determine distribution (which makes sense to me)
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02:41<dwfreed>Peng_: yes
02:43<dwfreed>Peng_: 1333 North Stemmons Freeway, Suite 110, Dallas, TX 75207
02:45<millisa>I'd never thought about it; I've been in that building.
02:45<millisa>moved a bunch of 2850's out of it when it was 'theplanet'
02:46<dwfreed>Linode was in that building since 2003
02:46<millisa>looking to see when i was there.
02:47<dwfreed>most of the datacenters in Richardson are owned by Digital Realty
02:47<dwfreed>there's a DataBank facility, a Sungard facility, and a ViaWest facility as well
02:48<dwfreed>Softlayer's DAL07 is a little farther north in Plano
02:50<millisa>early 2009 was when I moved the gear out
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02:56<mnathani>thanks for trying it out : millisa!
02:56<mnathani>what did your uname -a look like after installing Cloud Linux?
02:57<millisa>Linux li1103-126.members.linode.com 3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.74.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 11 15:51:10 EDT 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
02:57<millisa>looks like it updated /etc/redhat-release to say cloud linux too
02:57<millisa>Has the name of that cosmonaut who died this year
02:58<dcraig>"Cloud computing is the on-demand delivery of compute power, database storage, applications, and other IT resources through a cloud services platform via the internet with pay-as-you-go pricing."
02:58<dcraig>just thought I'd clear that up
02:59<millisa>Of the clan Macloud. Born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel.
02:59<millisa>And I am linmortal
03:00<dcraig>I only know the village of Glenfiddich
03:00<millisa>It's like that but with more Sean Connery
03:01<dcraig>trebek!
03:04<dwfreed>"Glenfiddich means "Valley of the Deer" in Scottish Gaelic"
03:06<dcraig>thx, dwfreedbot
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03:13<pintraj>hi
03:13<pintraj>i want to install askbot
03:14<millisa>go for it!
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03:14<dcraig>no don't do it
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03:15<Peng_>D:
03:15<dcraig>:D
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03:18<Woet>D:
03:19<dcraig>is dat ur cdrom drive or what?
03:19<Woet>thats not how your mother described it
03:20<dcraig>my momma says u got da minidisc
03:20<mnathani>[root@li1198-60 ~]# uname -a
03:20<mnathani>Linux li1198-60.members.linode.com 3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.74.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 11 15:51:10 EDT 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
03:20<millisa>success?
03:20<mnathani>indeed
03:20<millisa>woot.
03:21<mnathani>guess I should install CloudLinux before cPanel
03:26<dwfreed>probably
03:30<Woet>how about you install neither
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06:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • How to securely erase my linode? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14060&p=74920#p74920>
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06:49<ricky>Hello
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06:52<Guest7140>my account is blocked , I want to know reason why?
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06:54<@rsyracuse>Guest7140: If you can e-mail us at support@linode.com or give us a call at 855-454-6633 or +1-609-380-7100 internationally, we should be able to see why you might be blocked
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06:57<Woet>ask to be transferred to Zimsky
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08:51<rahul>hi
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08:51<scotti>ho ho ho
08:52<rahul>i want to start my email on linode..but dont have idea how to go about it..im quite used to cpanel type email
08:52<rahul>please help
08:52<rahul>i manage my email on cpanel and access through outlook
08:53<@rsyracuse>rahul: Hey there, we have a few pieces of documentation for that that should help you get started. Usually the best place to start is here https://www.linode.com/docs/email/running-a-mail-server
08:54<@rsyracuse>If you're more familiar with cPanel you'd be welcome to install it on any of your instances as well
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08:55<rahul>thanks
08:55<rahul>but i have read this..its more confusing as it doesnt state whats the closest to cpanel
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08:58<@rsyracuse>rahul: cPanel works to configure a lot of this for you by default. If you like that interface then you may want to stay with cPanel, or explore some other webpanels that are similar
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08:59<man>Hello
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09:00<man>I need to buy linode cloyd server
09:00<man>But i know nothing about
09:00<man>Can any one here help?
09:00<rahul>thanks
09:00<man>I need a server for very fast landing pages
09:01<man>Loading
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09:01<@rsyracuse>man: Generally the best place to get started is with our documentation. Our "Getting Started" guide should cover most of the basics https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
09:02<@rsyracuse>man: Since speed is important to you as well, I'd recommend trying out our speedtests to get a feel for exactly what you can expect with our platform https://www.linode.com/speedtest
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09:06<man>There is something downloading what is that for?
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09:10<man>@rsyracuse I do not understand what is going there
09:11<man>You sent me a link and i downloaded something Ultra ISO and i do not have ultra iso on my pc
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09:17<man>Guys whats going here????????????
09:17<man>I do not understand what the hell is going here
09:17<man>L(
09:17<man>:(
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09:22<Woet>man: do you know how to manage a Linux server?
09:25<man>No
09:25<man>I do not
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09:28<Woet>man: then buy a managed server or be prepared to spend many hours learning
09:30<man>Woet I need a managed server with Cpanel installed for fast loading landing pages please
09:30<Woet>man: why landing pages?
09:30<Woet>man: isnt the internet full enough with crap already?
09:31<man>Because i am a media buyer
09:31<man>Woet
09:33<Woet>what does that entail?
09:34<man>Woet are you one of the support?
09:34<Woet>i am not one of the support
09:35<man>Woet does Linode offers a managed servers?
09:35<Woet>www.linode.com/managed
09:36<man>Woet thanks very much
09:41<man>Woet Linode does not offer live support, right?
09:41<Woet>nope
09:42<man>Woet Is their servers exteremly fats
09:42<man>??
09:43<Woet>very fat
09:43<Woet>like Zimsky
09:43<nate>I mean, the servers aren't like obese or anything
09:43<nate>but they're kinda pudgy
09:43<ponas>they got fat pipes
09:43<ponas>so they run at turbo speed 1000%
09:44<ponas>also SSDs for maximum IOPS!
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10:04<Trustmaster>Anyone can help me setup pufferpanel on my server?
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10:08<Trustmaster>No matter what I do I'm always mess it up
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11:37<ThomVRazel>Hi Guys, I'm running a Linode 2048 Centos 7, LAMP, with 2 wp installations and some small no db driven sites. One of the wp's was migrated from an shared hosting. Never had any problems. Now since i'm on Linode. mariadb crashes regularly. Were should I start trouble shooting?
11:43<Woet>check the syslog for oom killer
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11:47<ThomVRazel>I see a oom on httpd
11:47<Woet>then you ran out of memory
11:47<Woet>you'll probably find some for maria too
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11:48<ThomVRazel>So only solution is upgrade ram?
11:49<Woet>or use less
11:49<Woet>or add swap if its only temporary usage (like a nightly backup)
11:50<ThomVRazel>Is there a guideline on how much of what you need?
11:50<Woet>huh
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11:50<ThomVRazel>some rule of thump?
11:50<Woet>for what?
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11:51<ThomVRazel>on how much memory to allocate
11:52<ThomVRazel>or on how to tune mariadb
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11:57<Woet>you can use mysqltuner.pl
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11:58<Woet>but you should probably figure out whats using the memory first
11:58<Woet>2048 MB should be plemnty
11:58<Woet>plenty too
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13:12<@scrane>ThomVRazel These guides might help you a bit: https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/apache-tips-and-tricks/tuning-your-apache-server https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mysql/how-to-optimize-mysql-performance-using-mysqltuner
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13:15<ThomVRazel>Thanks @scrane
13:15<@scrane>NP. This might also help a bit. https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-memory-and-networking-issues
13:17<Woet>why wont you ever help me out scrane
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13:23<@scrane>Hahaha mostly because you never ask when I'm around!
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13:24<dwfreed>scrane: you can't provide the help that Woet needs
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13:25<@scrane>That wouldn't surprise me either.
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14:57<pshendry>Anybody using Container Linux via v4 API? Last week I had no issues, but today I get a "distribution is not valid" from POST /linode/instances/... "linux/containerlinux" still shows up in GET /linode/distributions
14:58<dwfreed>you probably need to use an ID instead of a name
15:00<pshendry>"linode/containerlinux" is the ID of the distribution according to GET /v4/linode/distributions
15:00<pshendry>but yeah I'm wondering if it's a rename that hasn't propagated out to the docs yet
15:02<dwfreed>it's linode/containerlinux
15:05<pshendry>yes. That's what I'm sending, and it was working a few days ago so it's not a typo issue. Just tried with linode/ubuntu16.04lts with success, so it seems like it's likely specific to Container Linux
15:06<dwfreed>what you said above was linux/containerlinux
15:08<pshendry>ah shoot, my fingers always type it out that way for some reason. Sorry bout that. Definitely sending "linode" in the API request though
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15:53<millisa>hm. might not be a containerlinux thing. https://vomitb.in/Y7zO8HIzvR distribution is coming up as null (line 19) on a centos7 linode
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16:26<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Im happy I finally registered <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15382&p=74921#p74921>
16:32<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
16:37<dwfreed>millisa: was that linode deployed with apiv4?
16:38<millisa>nope, and I can't say for sure it ever had a value in the distribution on a get request.
16:39<dwfreed>it's likely that that information was not stored in the place that apiv4 looks for it
16:40<millisa>would fiddle more with it, but i'm late for lunch
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17:07<Zimsky>Woet: technically I'm underweight
17:07<Zimsky>and overheight
17:07<Zimsky>but that's better than being Woet
17:08<Zimsky>I simply woet stand for it
17:10<@scrane>I see wut u did der
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17:18<professornim>hey guys
17:18<professornim>can you refund my initial bill of $20
17:18<professornim>i just canceled my account
17:19<professornim>your site kept asking me to log in every 30 seconds
17:19<professornim>annoying as hell
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17:23<dwfreed>you should have opened a ticket
17:23<dwfreed>(or called)
17:24<professornim>maybe
17:24<dwfreed>because that isn't normal and Linode would have fixed it
17:25<professornim>i emailed support
17:26<dwfreed>email is not an authenticated mechanism, so tickets work best; note that depending on support load, it might take a few hours to get a response no matter what method you choose, whereas a call will jump you to the front of the line
17:37<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • [feature request] Have Network Helper use user-supplied domain/search <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15383&p=74922#p74922>
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17:47<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15384&p=74923#p74923>
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19:51<dcraig>anything weird in fremont?
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19:53<Peng_>OFTC just split, so probably
19:53<dwfreed>dcraig: probably; charm is in fremont
19:53<dwfreed>by the time I looked, though, it seemed to be fixed
19:53<dwfreed>resistance is in dallas
19:53<Peng_>I disconnected from an IRC network in Dallas a bit ago, i think
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19:55<Peng_>Maybe Dallas lost connectivity to the other data centers again
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19:59<Peng_>And just now :P
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20:05<Ikaros>Yeeeeah...I suspect that didn't quite go as planned.
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20:08<Peng_>So much for the router software upgrades and emergency maintenance. :X
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20:09<f4r>is anyone else getting routing errors/lost packets between the Freemont and Dallas datacenters?
20:09<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Inter-DC connectivity between Dallas and our other datacenters <https://status.linode.com/incidents/5h0tl853f601>
20:09<Ikaros>There ya go.
20:09<dwfreed>linbot is slow
20:09<Ikaros>Think they know by now
20:10<dwfreed>yes linbot, I know 'is' is not a command
20:10<Ikaros>Almost like that maintenance didn't really um...do what it was intended to do...
20:10<f4r>ah
20:10<f4r>not just me then
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20:11<f4r>I have linked IRC servers between the two, link comes up for a few seconds then dies a slow and painful death, only to repeat 5 mins later
20:11<f4r>thanks
20:11<Peng_>:X
20:11<dcraig>Ikaros, what have you done now?!
20:11<Peng_>If you can put a non-Linode ISP in the middle, it ought to work..
20:11<Ikaros>Situations like that I just route around it. Part of my duty on the network I'm serving on.
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20:12<Ikaros>Always fun though to get a text in the middle of the night telling me a server link is derping repeatedly.
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20:13<f4r>yeah I can connect to both servers just fine from my connection
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20:14<f4r>I'm not smart enough to force an outward hop
20:14<Ikaros>On my network, I don't wear the title of "routing manager" for nothing. :P
20:15<f4r>this is why I shouldn't have dropped out of college
20:15<Ikaros>Heh.
20:15<Ikaros>I never finished either.
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20:16<Ikaros>Ah ha.
20:17<Ikaros>Well yeah I think that status page that I just got emailed...would be the bigger problem by far.
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20:17<dwfreed>OFTC ircds have connect blocks for every other ircd on the network; I believe I could connect any of them together if needed
20:17<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • hello... <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15385&p=74924#p74924>
20:19<f4r>my "network" is only two servers
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20:20<Peng_>Just run it through Tor. :D
20:21<Ikaros>dwfreed: Yeah we do that except we use a hub-leaf topology with specific servers designated as hubs - all they do is accept server links, we keep the IPs of those masked. Leaf servers do not link to other leaf servers in our configuration, only to hubs.
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20:21<dwfreed>Ikaros: I mean, we have hubs too, but in the worst case, we can connect anything to anything
20:22<Ikaros>I see.
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20:22<dwfreed>I think, anyway
20:22<Ikaros>Yeah, we have designated some leafs in strategic locales to serve as backup uplinks should anything go wrong with any of the hubs.
20:23<dwfreed>I've never had to ask a leaf to connect to another leaf, because we have 2 hubs in each region
20:23<Ikaros>Routing manager (me) would have to authorize it first before we fall back on that.
20:23<Ikaros>(which is why key network staff have my cell number, so I can authorize via SMS)
20:24*Ikaros eyes uplink uptimes on his servers
20:25<Ikaros>Love it when things are quiet in that regard...
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20:29<Ikaros>...wtf ok why the heck does the power decide to start flickering/threatening to go out now of all times. I mean the main line of severe storms isn't even here yet.
20:30<Peng_>:(
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20:43<Peng_>Dallas might be better.
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20:46<f4r>yeah just had my link connect
20:46<f4r>hasn't shit the bed yet, but we'll see
20:47<Peng_>Multiple minutes of stability!~ \o/
20:48<f4r>praise be the nerds
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20:49<Ikaros>Pfft
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20:51<Ikaros>Mmm, think I'll make sure the batteries in the weather alert radio are charged up enough.
20:53<Ikaros>Haha and just as I do that it goes off
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21:32<dwfreed>eyepulp: fix your connection
21:32<eyepulp>dwfreed: sorry - wireless AP is flaking out. Just ordered a replacement. =\
21:32<dwfreed>heh
21:33<eyepulp>ubiquiti ftw
21:33<eyepulp>I'll /leave to keep the flapping annoying everyone. bbiaw
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22:18<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • new Linode Manager <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15001&p=74835#p74835> || General Discussion • How to set up teamspeak3 server? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15339&p=74834#p74834>
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22:58<linner>hi everyone
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22:58<linner>can i ask how long a support ticket for 1 extra ipv4 address will take usually if i submitted my ticket just now
22:59<linner>and what would be a proper justification for it?
23:00<Peng_>What justification do you have?
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23:02<linner>I need to make a new SSL cert according to this guide i am following
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23:02<linner>and i need to route two ip addresses to my same linnode
23:02<Peng_>What kind of guide?
23:02<dwfreed>generally you don't need a second IP for an additional SSL site anymore
23:03<linner>it is a guide to setup run two of the same program on a vps
23:03<linner>First you need to get two public ip's pointed toward your machine, not going to post instructions on how to do that as it greatly depends on how your setup. How 2 ip's should look, again it greatly depends on your setup.
23:03<linner>This is the exact wording of the guide
23:03<@rsyracuse>linner: If you can PM me your ticket number I can go ahead and see that we get you a response ASAP. We're generally a little bit limited with what we can do for internal configurations, but we'd be happy to take a look =)
23:04<linner>and I will need to get certificates for both of the guide
23:04<linner>ok! :)
23:17<kyhwana_>linner: why not run the 2nd copy on a different port?
23:18<Peng_>Depending on the software, you can run some type of reverse proxy in front of it.
23:18<Peng_>Or use IPv6!!!!
23:19<kyhwana_>Peng_: lol wat is ipv6. (Especially for something that doesn't do SNI)
23:19<Peng_>I think I've done IPv6-with-no-SNI with old Python, TBH
23:21<Peng_>That could have real world applicability to... one, maybe two people. :P
23:22<linner>i'll try out IPV6
23:22<Peng_>Um.
23:22<linner>I am a complete newbie to networking so sorry :(
23:22<kyhwana_>linner: what exactly is the app you're trying to run?
23:22<Peng_>Could you explain more about what you're up to?
23:22<Peng_>IPv6 has a maybe 5% chance of actually being a viable solution.
23:23<linner>trying to run multiple nodes on zcash
23:23<linner>from the same VPS
23:23<linner>secure nodes require SSL certs
23:23<linner>and unique ips
23:23<Peng_>Why?
23:23<linner>i'm not sure
23:26<kyhwana_>can't you run it on different ports?
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23:29<kyhwana_>Just set the nodes to run on different ports, with the same cert if they're both using the same FQDN, or with whichever cert/FQDN you set for each port?
23:29<linner>ok
23:29<linner>i'll check it out
23:33<Peng_>Or get a Let's Encrypt cert for both FQDNs...
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23:35<kyhwana_>Peng_: that would work too
23:37<Peng_>or get a $75 capitalist certificate for both FQDNs :D
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23:54<Peng_>Hi
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