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#linode IRC Logs for 2017-10-25

---Logopened Wed Oct 25 00:00:54 2017
00:14<ardipithecus>linbot is test
00:14<linbot>ardipithecus: NO, YOU'RE TEST !!!
00:14<ardipithecus>linbot is hello world
00:14<linbot>ardipithecus: NO, YOU'RE HELLO WORLD !!!
00:15<ardipithecus>linbot is fjdksjifekikLOLjfjieIJJNj4839idjflkjfsdijqwnjjdijfiweoljrf
00:15<linbot>ardipithecus: NO, YOU'RE FJDKSJIFEKIKLOLJFJIEIJJNJ4839IDJFLKJFSDIJQWNJJDIJFIWEOLJRF !!!
00:15<linbot>ardipithecus: you're an idiot
00:17<ardipithecus>linbot is a paying customer
00:17<linbot>ardipithecus: NO, YOU'RE A PAYING CUSTOMER !!!
00:18<ardipithecus>linbot is paying linode employee's salary
00:18<linbot>ardipithecus: NO, YOU'RE PAYING LINODE EMPLOYEE'S SALARY !!!
00:19<linbot>seriously, please stop
00:19<ardipithecus>so don't insult your customers
00:19<linbot>I'm a bot
00:19<ardipithecus>no you're not
00:20<ardipithecus>you're someone who insults paying customers who are paying your salary
00:20<linbot>yes, I am; the people making me say things generally aren't, though they also aren't necessarily Linode employees
00:20<linbot>(the person who usually does this, for example, isn't)
00:21<Ikaros>Ok who's messing with people now
00:21<linbot>Ikaros: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
00:21<ardipithecus>I haven't used IRC for 25 years. Forgotten a lot of its "secrets".
00:22*Ikaros suspiciously looks at mcintosh
00:22<linbot>Ikaros: WRONG
00:22<linbot>(anonymous say <channel> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel>.
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00:23<ardipithecus>anonymous say #linode hello
00:23<ardipithecus>anonymous say linode hello
00:24<linbot>now you are an idiot
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00:24<ardipithecus>seriouslly, what's with the personal attacks?
00:24<ardipithecus>Did I say something to you?
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00:25<Peng>linbot: :|
00:25<Ikaros>ardipithecus don't take it personally, some people just like to mess with it for some weird reason, maybe out of boredom. Pay no mind to it.
00:26<ardipithecus>I have a full time job and a family, so I don't have time to sit in my mother's basement and practise IRC commands
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00:26<Ikaros>Heh. Nobody said you had to be a pro at IRC to come here.
00:26<linbot>now who's doing the personal attacks?
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00:27<ardipithecus>You are.
00:27<Ikaros>Though I can name a few trolls that lurk about here that pull this sort of thing if given the chance. I won't, of course.
00:27<ardipithecus>I'm responding after many attacks.
00:27<linbot>many there were 2
00:27<Ikaros>Last thing I do to people is call them out on that sort of thing
00:27<linbot>(and I forgot linbot eats quotes for breakfast)
00:28<ardipithecus>This is the channel that a business called linode.com points to for tech support ( or community support ). So you're messing with their money.
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00:28<linbot>drop in the ocean
00:28*Ikaros sighs
00:29<Ikaros>Ignore the bot if it bugs you that much, IRC does have an ignore function.
00:29*Peng drops water on linbot
00:29<ardipithecus>No. I see new customers come on and ask questions and get insults as responses
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00:30<dwfreed>some people aren't afraid to tell it like it is
00:30<ardipithecus>they can do it on their own time
00:30<dwfreed>they do
00:31<ardipithecus>or something they themselves own
00:31<dwfreed>everybody not an op here is not a linode employee
00:31<dwfreed>and we regularly point people to that factoid in linbot
00:31<dwfreed>!ops
00:31<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
00:31<ardipithecus>I know that
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00:32<ardipithecus>Well, its 68F here at night and raining.
00:32<Ikaros>Mmm.
00:32<Ikaros>!wx KDFW
00:32<linbot>Ikaros: [metar] OBS at KDFW: 60.8F/16C, visibility 10 miles, wind 10.36 mph, chill 59.34F (altimeter: 30.27) [KDFW 250353Z 31009KT 10SM FEW300 16/M03 A3027 RMK AO2 SLP244 T01561033]
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00:33<ardipithecus>I forgot how to read that. I once wrote a parser for that.
00:34<Ikaros>Heh.
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00:37<dwfreed><ICAO code> <day and time of measurement, in UTC> <Wind direction and speed> <visibility> <cloud cover> <temperature, dew point> <barometric pressure> <remarks> <report automation> <sea level pressure> <more precise temperature and dew point>
00:37<dwfreed>using that KDFW reading
00:41<ardipithecus>ah....I have no memory of that. Thanks though.
00:41<ardipithecus>I do remember that some cities are missing many of those parameters.
00:42<dwfreed>yes, due to less fancy weather stations
00:45<Ikaros>Wind direction and speed are represented first by the number of degrees (in this case, 310 degrees, which is about a northwesterly direction). Cloud cover can occur multple times depending on what's observed, but it's represented by coverage first (CLR, FEW, SCT, BKN, and OVC - each of these represent the number of 'oktas', or eights, of the sky that's occupied by cloud), then the feet in
00:45<Ikaros>hundreds those clouds are at. Using the KDFW observation above, 'FEW300' indicates a few (1 to 2 oktas) clouds at 30,000 feet AGL.
00:46<Ikaros>I imagine those would probably be cirrus clouds.
00:46<Ikaros>Being that high
00:47<dwfreed>the site i used to use that had basically everything that could ever appear in a METAR is gone :(
00:48<Ikaros>Heh
00:48<Ikaros>dwfreed: I forget exactly how long ago it was, but one time, KDAL (Dallas Love Field) once had '+FC' as the sky condition. >.>
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00:49<dwfreed>I think i remember that
00:49<Ikaros>As it would turn out, KDAL's observer was seeing a tornado on the ground near Irving.
00:49<Ikaros>As was shown in the RMK section after
00:50<Ikaros>'RMK TORNADO'
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00:51<Ikaros>But yeah, there's still like 2 stations here that will still report SKC during the day as they are manually operated, then you'll see CLR at night when in 'AUTO' mode
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02:38<Zimsky>if you open 6 instances of htop simultaneously, it segfaults
02:39<Zimsky>!wx BIKF
02:39<linbot>Zimsky: [metar] OBS at BIKF: 41.0F/05C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 12.66 mph, chill 33.87F (altimeter: ) [BIKF 250600Z 03011KT CAVOK 05/04 Q1000]
02:39<Zimsky>I want my TAF and TTF reports
02:39<dwfreed>Zimsky: wat
02:40<dwfreed>gonna have to [citation needed] you
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02:40<Zimsky>dwfreed: on what
02:41<dwfreed>what's the only thing you've said in the last 5 minutes that might need a citation
02:41<Zimsky>I don't know, you tell me
02:42<Zimsky>play less of a pointless guessing game, and maybe we might be on the same page
02:43<dwfreed>...are you really that thick?
02:46<Zimsky>I'm fantastically thick
02:47<Zimsky>you could just say "I'm curious about X point you made"
02:48<Zimsky>instead of "what's the only thing you've said in the last 5 minutes that might need a citation"
02:48<Zimsky>which comes off as kind of dickish
02:49<Ikaros>...
02:50<dwfreed>apparently assuming basic intelligence is asking a bit much
02:51<Ikaros>And that's you expecting everyone to HAVE your level of intelligence. Would it not have simply been easier to point out what you needed him to clarify?
02:52<Ikaros>Meh, I'm tired, I think bed's calling my name anyway.
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03:58<Peng>What happened with Dallas IP addresses?
03:58<dcraig>wat u mean
03:58<Peng>They said they'd assign everyone a new IP on October 19 but i didn't get one :(
03:59<dcraig>I must have missed that ticket...
03:59<Peng>"Peng, you mean you're not going to wait until the last minute?" "I didn't say that."
03:59<Peng>When i said "everyone" I mean "everyone on the very short list of people getting notified for ages now"
04:00*dcraig shortlists Peng
04:00*Woet blacklists Peng
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05:29<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • muticast IPs <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8502&p=74974#p74974>
05:39<linbot>New news from status: Connectivity Issues - Frankfurt <https://status.linode.com/incidents/l70x9s3384xd>
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06:04<tushar>hello
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06:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Im happy I now registered <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15407&p=74975#p74975>
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07:09<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • My Average CPU is running at 200%, someone please advise. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15354&p=74884#p74884>
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07:28*JamesTK Penglists Peng
07:49<Peng>!wx ksfb
07:49<linbot>Peng: [metar] OBS at KSFB: 60.8F/16C, visibility 10 miles, wind 18.41 mph, chill 57.98F (altimeter: 29.94) [KSFB 251053Z 35016G23KT 10SM CLR 16/08 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP136 T01610078]
07:50<Peng>Winter is coming
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08:03<jstitt>hi all
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08:13<Ravi>Hi
08:13<Ravi>i have a problem in my website and the problem is not playing videos in my website.
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08:14<Ravi>I asked my 3rd party team to check it and they said like
08:14<Ravi>You need FFMPEG to convert non mp4 videos.
08:14<Ravi>check it on your server
08:14<Ravi>So can any one please tell me how to check it
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08:16<Ravi>any one help me
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08:18<Ravi>hello
08:20<ponas>Ravi: you can type 'ffmpeg' in the terminal to see if it's installed
08:20<Ravi>how to check it
08:20<ponas>ssh into linode, type ffmpeg
08:21<ponas>if it's missing you will want to type "install ffmpeg" + the name of your linux distro into google for further instructions
08:22<Ravi>it is not there
08:22<Ravi>install ffmpeg next
08:23<ponas>yes
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09:08<JamesTK>!wx YSSY
09:08<linbot>JamesTK: [metar] OBS at YSSY: 66.2F/19C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 19.56 mph, chill 64.89F (altimeter: 29.82528283) [YSSY 251230Z 15017KT 9999 FEW010 BKN180 19/16 Q1010 FM1400 19010KT 9999 -SHRA]
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09:08<JamesTK>What winter?
09:08<@jleal>such visibility
09:09<@jleal>Can see all the things.
09:10<ponas>hah, miles and mph
09:10<JamesTK>http://www.bom.gov.au/aviation/forecasts/international-taf/
09:10<JamesTK>Yeah, even BOM says 9999 miles
09:11<teemu>over 9000 miles of visibility
09:11<@bmartin>what? Over 9000?!
09:11<JamesTK>There are no clouds outside
09:12*JamesTK lives near said airport
09:12<JamesTK>Maybe I should go to sleep. Thursday has greeted me.
09:12<@jleal>Heck, you can probablty see friday at this rate ;)
09:13<@jleal>agh, cant type, hands too cold. Send cocoa.
09:14<JamesTK>;)
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09:15<@jhaas>!cocoa jleal
09:15<JamesTK>!beer jleal
09:15<linbot>Beer! Its whats for dinner
09:15<JamesTK>haha
09:15<@bmartin>Linbot is smart
09:15<linbot>bmartin: NO, YOU'RE SMART !!!
09:16<JamesTK>Linbot is dumb
09:16<linbot>JamesTK: NO, YOU'RE DUMB !!!
09:16<JamesTK>:O
09:16<@jhaas>linbot is linbot
09:16<linbot>jhaas: NO, YOU'RE LINBOT !!!
09:16*jhaas is linbot
09:16<JamesTK>...I can't remember if I added that to linbot
09:17<JamesTK>It would be something I would do.
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09:18<@jhaas>linbot is something JamesTK would do
09:18<linbot>jhaas: NO, YOU'RE SOMETHING JAMESTK WOULD DO !!!
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09:19<JamesTK>!help is
09:19<linbot>JamesTK: (is <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $nick: NO, YOU'RE [format upper $*]!!!".
09:19<JamesTK>:P
09:19<@jhaas>!help help
09:19<linbot>jhaas: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
09:20<JamesTK>I'm waiting for Gentoo to finish compiling GCC
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11:45<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE
11:45<lena>What's happened with Japan's linode?
11:45<lena>I can't access to my linode located in Japan
11:45<lena>Anyone got the same problem?
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11:46<Peng>Hi Yaakov :D
11:46<Yaakov>Howdy, Peng.
11:47<Yaakov>Anything new?
11:47<Peng>Well
11:47<Peng>Nope
11:47<Yaakov>Righteous.
11:47<Peng>How's things :D
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11:48<Yaakov>Great. Busy...
11:49<Yaakov>Got a new car, that's a cool thing.
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12:01<WLS-ITGuy>What is the best way to import a linode image into vmware? I am trying to have a dev site in house to test things
12:02<@scrane>I think this guide might help you out. https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh
12:04<WLS-ITGuy>I've gotten the disk copied from that guide but getting the image into vmware isn't quite working
12:04<WLS-ITGuy>Oh. missed a step in there that might help.
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12:29<tafa2>Yaakov what dyu get?
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12:30<Yaakov>2015 BMW X5
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13:05<arby>Can someone @ops clarify Linode's TOS? Linode apparently hosts "Security Researchers" that port-scan our networks -- with no opt-in procedures, permissions, etc.
13:05<arby>Sure we can firewall the pests off, but that's not the point. Neither is whether it's an occassional or huge problem.
13:05<arby>The TOS says specifically 'prohibited use' includes: "Access to Other Computers or Networks without Authorization". I assume we're held accountable to those TOS.
13:05<arby>Why's Linode turn a TOS blind-eye to some Linode-hosted 'security researchers', in Switzerland no less, to make noise -- and money, for that matter -- using our resources?
13:05<dwfreed>it doesn't
13:06<dwfreed>you file an abuse complaint, and they'll take care of it
13:06<dwfreed>!abuse
13:06<Peng>Is port scanning a bad thing?
13:06<linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself.
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13:06<arby>dwfreed: Nope. Filed a complaint. Told I can "opt out" by "contact the researchers" and/or "providing my IP" to them.
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13:07<dwfreed>that's how they take care of it when the researchers are responsive to opt-out requests
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13:08<arby>dwfreed: So the policy is what, it's OK to broadly & knowingly abuse the TOS -- access without auth -- until people complain? The onus is on US?
13:08<dwfreed>port scanning is not access
13:09<dwfreed>and besides, arguably, if you have an open port on the internet, you're giving authorization to access it, in a way, because you haven't done due diligence to secure it
13:10<dwfreed>and even if Linode removed them, they'd just go to another provider who might just ignore your abuse complaints
13:10<@scrane>Hey there. We do allow security researchers on our platform, but only after they have reached out to us and we have vetted their practices to make sure what they are doing isn't malicious. When we receive reports, we ask for the IP address so we can pass that along to the researcher to blacklist that IP address on their services.
13:10<Peng>https://twitter.com/CyberQueenMara/status/919022339177693184
13:10<dwfreed>and then the scanning would never stop
13:12<arby>@scrane In principle, fair. But there's no documentation of such vetting, is there? A list @ Linode of 'vetted scurity researchers that are going to be scanning your ports unless/until you opt-out'? There's certainly no request TO us to allow such use.
13:13<dwfreed>Linode does not release customer information
13:13<dwfreed>that would classify as customer information
13:14<arby>But they're happy to share MY customer information, my IP, to opt-out of some OTHER Linode customers' unwelcome practices?
13:15<arby>And, they've already 'shared' the "security researcher's" identity. So that's a rather specious point.
13:16<dwfreed>because the security researcher approved providing a specific point of contact
13:16<@mcintosh>your IP address is public
13:16<smallclone>ports available to the entire internet are not private and presuming that they should be treated as such is stupid
13:16<dwfreed>^
13:17<arby>mcintosh: So? That makes repeated scanning by one of your customers of my network cool?
13:18<dwfreed>it means that if they aren't doing it, 10,000 other people still are, and those ISPs abuse mailbox is /dev/null
13:18<dwfreed>Welcome to the Internet
13:19<arby>dwfreed: So? What does that have to do with Linode's TOS? Do you speak for Linode? Or are you just spouting as a private citizen?
13:19<smallclone>yeah, if you're on the public internet you're getting scanned
13:19<dwfreed>I used to be a Linode employee
13:19<smallclone>only users with @ by their name are linode employees
13:19<arby>dwfreed: Do you speak for Linode now?
13:20<dwfreed>Linode's policy regarding security researchers has not changed since I worked for them
13:20<dwfreed>arby: mcintosh and scrane do
13:20<arby>Right.
13:20<dwfreed>and they'd be saying things a lot differently if they agreed with you
13:20<dwfreed>they don't
13:21<smallclone>do your job and firewall things correctly if you don't want to be scanned. or give them the IP. it's not like they haven't already scanned it, so i'm not sure what you think you have to hide.
13:21<arby>mcintosh scrane caker Is that correct? Your TOS allows your customers doing whatever scanning they want to tp 'my' Linode, without my permission?
13:22<arby>hide? LOL . typical ...
13:22<smallclone>if your approach to security is to whine whenever someone does something you don't like, you probably have bigger problems than port scans..
13:22<arby>go away.
13:22<dwfreed>he's telling it like it is
13:22<arby>there, that's better
13:23<@mcintosh>yes, port scanning does not violate our ToS
13:24<@bmartin>And as a part of our policy for Security Researchers we can have your IP removed from their future scans
13:24*linbot port scans mcintosh
13:24<dwfreed>bmartin: covered already :)
13:24*mcintosh blushes
13:25<@bmartin>I figured. Just wanted to reiterate.
13:27<smallclone>i'm assuming he blocked me
13:27<smallclone>anyway if you took that same approach to port scans
13:27<smallclone>you wouldn't have any problem
13:28<arby>bmartin: I assume, then, that you've got a list of approved/vetted customers that are scanning your other customers. Do you provide a mechanism GLOBAL opt-out ? No scanning by any of them?
13:28<@scrane>To clarify, we don't give users carte blanche to maliciously attack other servers. In the case of security researchers, as I stated earlier, we have vetted them to verify their practices are not malicious. While I can understand that is not something you would would be able to determine on the receiving end of a scan, we do require the security researchers maintain an active blocklist of IP addresses for instances such as these.
13:30<@scrane>Due to the nature of some of the research, we don't make the IPs or names of the security researchers public. We only mention that to individuals who have reached out to us via abuse about the specific complaint.
13:31<arby>scrane: Right. So you have a list. It's internal. Do you have a global opt-out?
13:31<@mcintosh>no
13:32<arby>Intersting way to (in)consistently apply contract language.
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13:32<smallclone>lol
13:32<Peng>That went well
13:32<@mcintosh>!point linbot
13:32<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to linbot. (1337)
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13:33<@bmartin>In unrelated news I'm going to have a drink
13:33<@bmartin>for the record I'm kidding don't fire me
13:33<smallclone>with all the time he spent complaining he could have learned how to copy and paste an iptables rule
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13:34<dwfreed>smallclone: right?
13:34<dwfreed>bmartin: I'm going to have a drink
13:34<smallclone>what's worse is he probably has some ridiculous super-senior sys admin job somewhere, every time i talk to someone who doesn't know anything about the internet they're some high up sys admin at an ancient company
13:34<dwfreed>bmartin: of jarritos
13:35<smallclone>other coffee for me, that verbal lashing of "go away" really took it out of me
13:37<millisa>i'm curious if he was seeing stuff on the private network; doesn't change things, but he was talking about linode->linode scans.
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13:45<Eliz>millisa: doubtful
13:46<millisa>I doubt it, too.
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14:17<J_P>Got a few bucks left on my prepaid card, any way to an amount slightly fewer than 5$?
14:17<J_P>to pay*
14:18<dwfreed>are you signing up, or do you have an existing account?
14:18<J_P>I have an existing account
14:19<dwfreed>you should be able to specify any amount on the add credit page, unless they changed that to minimum $5
14:19<J_P>Just want to pay the last bucks from my prepaid card because they charge 1.50 a month if there's cash on it
14:19<J_P>Yeah it's $5 mininum
14:19<dwfreed>can always ask support
14:20<J_P>That's why I visited here (:
14:20<dwfreed>if you ask in a ticket, they can do the whole process there
14:20<J_P>Got you, thanks
14:20<dwfreed>because they probably have to charge your card for you in order to get around the $5 min
14:21<J_P>Agreed, wouldnt work through IRC anyway. :')
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14:31<synfinatic>huh. i wonder if arby is from the same company that complained to aws abuse when my company visited 3 urls on their website "without approval"
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14:35<zhouyu>hi there
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14:36<zhouyu>Just have a question, compare between standard plan & high memory plan? does standard plan has more cpu power compare to high mem plan?
14:37<dwfreed>in a way, yes
14:37<dwfreed>the standard plans have more CPU cores
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14:40<zhouyu>dwfreed: thanks
14:41<dwfreed>the high memory plans are designed for things that need a lot of RAM (memcached, for example) but not much of anything else
14:43<zhouyu>dwfreed: yeah, i need to switch back :(
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16:01<Remo>I've got a question about removing a legacy IP address from a linode. One of my nodes was migrated to the new dallas dc, and I've got it using the new IP address now. I know the legacy IPs will be removed at the end of this month, but can I remove the legacy IP now, myself? When I click the "IP Remove" link on my node's remote access page, the link just takes me to the "Extras" page. There is no option to remove the old IP.
16:02<Remo>What's the proper way for me to proceed in order to remove the legacy IP? Or should I just wait for it to be removed?
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16:02<@jackley>Remo: hi! can you give me your ticket number?
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16:03<Remo>Sure: 9043513
16:05<@jackley>Remo: taking a look now
16:07<Remo>Thanks
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16:46<relidy>Legacy IPs? Should I expect any required action on any of my Dallas migrated machines in regards to IP addresses?
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16:47*relidy mutters under his breath, "Please say no. Please say no."
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16:48<dwfreed>relidy: if you haven't gotten a ticket already about it, no
16:48<@mcintosh>^
16:48<relidy>Whew
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17:35<sirin>hi
17:36<sirin>Is Linode charging anything extra as monthly service charge?
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17:36<@bmartin>Hello there
17:36<@bmartin>So outside of whatever plan you have there are a number of addon services that would lead to additional monthly charges
17:36<dwfreed>sirin: no, the prices you see on the page are what you pay
17:37<@bmartin>As well as the potentially for transfer overages. Outside of those things though there are no service charges
17:37<dwfreed>there are services that cost extra, but there's no "your account exists"-type charge
17:38<sirin>@dwfreed: perfect
17:39<sirin>what is the cost for DNS Manager & LongView?
17:40<@mcintosh>longview is free for up to 10 instances (there is a premium version that costs money)
17:40<@mcintosh>DNS Manager is free but it is only functional if you have at least one active Linode
17:40<sirin>ok got it.
17:40<sirin>thanks a lot guys.
17:40<@mcintosh>no problem!
17:40<sirin>i will be launching a 4GB RAM instance very soon
17:41<sirin>AWS costly.
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17:44<Peng>relidy: If you were affected (Dallas 1 IBM-owned IP address) you would have to be ignoring 7 tickets over the last few months. half of which start with "[Action Required]". :P
17:46<Peng>My old IP address was more aesthetically pleasing than my new one. :'(
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17:46<ericoc>my linode's ip weirdly ends in .133.7
17:47<relidy>Peng: Yeah, thanks. dwfreed and mcintosh gave me the gentle reassuring pat on the back earlier. I was just worried it was going to be like the migrations themselves where they rolled it out slowly.
17:47<Peng>ericoc: \o/
17:48<ericoc>.13.37 would be cooler, but i'm not complaining i guess
17:50<Peng>I dunno, .133.7 has its own appeal. You don't often see octets < 10.
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19:23<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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19:38<sirin>anyone knows how we can deploy an Ubuntu 16.04 instance in linode?
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19:41<sirin>ok. seems like we need to rebuild it. thanks
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19:42<MrPPS>sirin: have you got an existing Ubuntu box?
19:42<aarsla>I am trying to clone linode, but I am greeted with: You only have access to one Linode
19:43<MrPPS>You could do an upgrade
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19:43<MrPPS>aarsla: new account?
19:43<aarsla>linode newbie
19:43<aarsla>just set up one server
19:43<aarsla>want to clone it
19:43<MrPPS>aarsla: possible that you've got a one-linode limit on your account; might have to message support to have the lifted
19:43<MrPPS>I *think* I remember a similar thing when I first signed up
19:43<MrPPS>not 100% sure
19:43<sirin>@MrPPS: No i don't have
19:43<MrPPS>but either way, open up a support ticket - that'll get you sorted
19:44<MrPPS>sirin: then yeah, you'll just have to deploy a new Ubuntu 16.04 instance
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19:44<@mcintosh>aarsla: you need to create another linode to "receive" the clone
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19:44<aarsla>done, thanks!
19:44<@mcintosh>np
19:44<@mcintosh>sorry for the confusion
19:45<MrPPS>Ah, that's my bad - I've never cloned before
19:45<MrPPS>sorry for muddying the waters there
19:46<aarsla>hm i had to create a new linode and set it up as a destination for a clone
19:46<aarsla>its migrating now
19:46<sirin>i have rebuilt it into ubuntu 17.10 and set a root password too. but not able to ssh into the instance
19:46<MrPPS>sirin: Go in via lish, check that SSH is running etc. as a starting point
19:47<MrPPS>check that it's been assigned the right IP address (helper scripts may not execute on it given it's been upgraded to a version that wasn't deployed) etc
19:48<sirin>i have loggedin using Lish. but no ubuntu commands are working inside of it
19:49<sirin>seems like things are messy for beginners @linode
19:49<sirin>still need to figure out all these basic things like AWS did.
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19:51<@scrane>sirin, is your Linode booted after you deployed ubuntu 17?
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19:51<sirin>yes.
19:51<sirin>now im inside my ubuntu instance
19:52<sirin>step1: login to List, Step2: type 'list' command and choose our node we want to login
19:52<sirin>i had to guess everything.
19:52<sirin>lol
19:53<@scrane>Ah, sorry about that! You can also launch LISH via the browser, and that generally directly connects you. What were you seeing attempting to SSH directly to the Linode, though?
19:55<sirin>yup
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20:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • [Solved]Can we use Debian's official mirrors instead of Linode's? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15392&p=74976#p74976>
20:35<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • [Solved]Can we use Debian's official mirrors instead of Linode's? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15392&p=74977#p74977>
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22:57<weilliew>hi there, anyone who can help with some questions on SSL on Nodebalancing?
23:08<linbot>weilliew: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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23:41<keithnyc>Hi - I set up a mail server on a new node and pointed my domain via my registrar to my node's nameservers, and the domain resolves properly now to the node everywhere except on linode (e.g if I try to set a reverse dns entry for the node via control panel). Even on the node itself using linode's name servers it doesn't resolve. It's been like 6 hours, is Linode slow in updating dns changes?
23:42<keithnyc>externally it looks fine, for example: https://pingability.com/zoneinfo.jsp?domain=unixloft.com shows all is well
23:43<dwfreed>you really should have more than one nameserver for your domain
23:44<keithnyc>yeah I was going to use linode dns for the secondary, which I actually tried for a while and it still didn't work, so I brought it back to a single name server just to figure out what's going on
23:45<keithnyc>I changed the nameserver on the node itself to google's dns and it works fine on the box, though without a proper RDNS it kinda sucks
23:46<dwfreed>It's possible that the resolvers Linode uses for checking the reverse DNS have cached the old NS entries
23:46<keithnyc>is that common with linode?
23:46<dwfreed>it's certainly a possibility
23:46<dwfreed>the cache time on those is typically 2 days
23:47<keithnyc>ouch
23:47<dwfreed>it's usually best when switching your nameservers to ensure that you're not also changing the records you're hosting, because there can be a large delay in asking the new nameservers for the information
23:48<keithnyc>hmm yeah that would make sense
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23:49<Lam>What is the limitation for 3TB transfer in the plan mean?
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23:49<Lam>Does it mean we can only transfer 3TB data or document to the Cloud server every month? What happen if we transfer more than 3TB per month?
23:49<dwfreed>Lam: it means that you get 3 TB of outbound transfer (from the Linode to the Internet; eg, people downloading stuff from a website you host) for free, before you're charged for overages
23:50<dwfreed>overages are billed at a rate of $0.02 per GB
23:50<Lam>How about inbound traffic?
23:50<dwfreed>inbound transfer (from the Internet to the Linode; eg, uploading stuff to the Linode) is not counted
23:51<Lam>3TB traffic is quite small for a month.
23:53<dwfreed>depends on what you're hosting
23:53<dwfreed>most people don't come anywhere near that amount
23:54<dwfreed>also note that transfer is pooled; meaning that if you have more than 1 Linode, they share their transfer, so one of them could use (for example) 4 TB, so long as combined they don't exceed the combined transfer amount
23:55<dwfreed>there's a bar at the bottom of the Linodes list in the Linode Manager that shows the size of your transfer pool and its total usage for the month
23:56<Lam>Ok. Thanks for the reply.
23:56<Lam>Also what is the cost to add more storage size? E.g. we use a 4GB Plan with 48GB storage but we want to add 100GB storage.
23:56<dwfreed>right now that isn't really possible; there's a block storage in the works that's in beta
23:57<dwfreed>see the channel topic for information about the beta
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23:59<Lam>So we cannot add more storage space in the plan?
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