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---Logopened Fri Oct 27 00:00:57 2017
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00:13<sunny>thanks
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00:15<sunny>how do you think if I just want a hosting for B2C online shop website, what plan in Linode is suitable for me?
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00:19<millisa>It's unlikely you could give enough info here for any one here to give more than a guess
00:19<@sjacobs>sunny: impossible to give you an accurate answer. too many variables.
00:19<@sjacobs>i always recommend starting small. do some load testing with your expected load. resize to fit your needs. rinse. repeat.
00:19<millisa>It's easy to resize a linode if you need to
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00:33<sunny>thanks
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00:54<millisa2>well, this is unfortunate.
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00:54<millisa2>I'm assuming I missed folks howling about dallas?
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00:56<hyperial>There an outage happening?
00:57<millisa2>dallas was supposed to have a network maintenance. looks like it is more disruptive than they'd planned
00:57<millisa2>this is the status link: https://status.linode.com/incidents/7ns6rfxrwqb3
00:58<hyperial>Thanks. I guess it was more disruptive, can't even hit Linode.com
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00:59<millisa2>all my stuff there isn't reachable from most places I monitor from
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00:59<ughugh>Is Linode down? Or is it just me?
00:59<millisa2>not just you
01:00<dcraig>at least we're all still here together
01:00<ughugh>fuuuudge
01:00<hyperial>Same here. All my Dallas linodes are down.
01:00<millisa2>ughugh: https://status.linode.com/incidents/7ns6rfxrwqb3
01:00<hyperial>My atlanta one is fine
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01:00<ughugh>Is it 4 UTC?
01:00<ughugh>Waaaah
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01:00<ughugh>Everyone is yelling at me
01:00<Peng>Uh-ohhh
01:01<millisa2>it's 5 utc, they started about an hour ago
01:01<Peng>Oh. Maintenance. I forgot.
01:01<ughugh>I don't suppose anyone has any idea how long we're gonna be down?
01:01<hyperial>4 UTC... Daylight savings.
01:01<Peng>Network maintenance is an order of magnitude less bad than power outage, which is my usual fear.
01:01<ughugh>I'll need to transition to other server if it's gonne be awhile
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01:01<ughugh>But I hate pulling that switch
01:01<Peng>I don't think there's any way to guess how long it will be.
01:02<millisa2>their maintenance was only supposed to be 2 hours and it's an hour in already
01:02<ughugh>statsu just updated
01:02<Peng>And it was supposed to cause no disruption, but here we are.
01:02<hyperial>yep
01:02<ughugh>sheeet
01:02<ughugh>I'm gonna get bitched out tomorrow
01:02<jkwood>Peng: WHAT DID YOU DO
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01:03<hyperial>I got about 80 sites down... Thankfully most of those people are asleep...
01:03<Peng>jkwood: I was thinking about changing my IP address, and then everything exploded.
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01:03<Peng>jkwood: Network maintenance gone bad, probably. https://status.linode.com/
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01:03<Peng>Hi everyone
01:03<Peng>I think it's back
01:03<jkwood>Oh, so it is.
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01:04<millisa2>heh, my znc box in dfw can't get back into the channel
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01:04<ughugh>yay!
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01:04<Peng>IPv5 is back*
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01:04<ughugh>Hi website!
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01:04<Peng>IPv6, which is all that matters, is not so good
01:04<Peng>:>
01:04<hyperial>mine are back
01:04<MrPPS>what's ipv6?
01:04<MrPPS>I KID I KID
01:04<Peng>YOU
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01:07<Peng>Maybe they shouldn't host the logo on the status page in Dallas
01:07<MrPPS>haha
01:07<MrPPS>20/20 hindsight?
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01:08<grawity><img src="data:image/peng;base64,UGVuZw==">
01:08<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel
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01:09<MrPPS>I rub you all over me every morning then, Eugene
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01:09<ughugh>dead again
01:09<millisa>i seem to be up
01:10<ughugh>back again
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04:01<Peng>Guess who accidentally left the init script for an important service disabled and rebooted. That was a mystery (for a moment)
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04:30<Jeffery>Hello
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04:30<Jeffery>I am IT Manager from Wall Street English Myanmar
04:30<Jeffery>we bought hosting from you
04:31<Jeffery>but i would like to get full information about because i am new manager here
04:32<@sjacobs>Jeffery: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform this would be a good place to start.
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04:39<Woet>Eugene: are you a towel?
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05:34<Jax>how easy to change plan from $5 to $10 and ect?
05:35<@sjacobs>Jax: upgrading is really easy. shut down, resize, boot.
05:35<@sjacobs>the only gotcha with downsizing is making sure your disks fit within the allocated storage of the plan.
05:36<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode
05:36<Woet>linode doesnt make it difficult for you to spend more money
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05:39<Jax>How much will Cpanel cost, if without the Managed Service subscription?
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05:40<@sjacobs>the official store is https://store.cpanel.net/
05:40<@sjacobs>you can shop around for a license, though. i'm not sure who has them for the cheapest.
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10:07<tafa2>cheapest for VPS is about $14 I think
10:07<tafa2>haven't seen it cheaper
10:07<tafa2>or if your more experienced with nix try vestaCP
10:07<tafa2>its free
10:10<DrJ>webmin/virtualmin is another option
10:13<dzho>wat
10:13<dzho>oh, for cpanel
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10:19<coderphive>woof. CPanel.
10:19<coderphive>sjacobs are there a lot of people that run web hosts off of linode?
10:24<@mcintosh>certainly
10:24<ericoc>sooo many i bet
10:25<ericoc>whm + cpanel
10:25<ericoc>if whm still exists?
10:29<tafa2>I do
10:29<tafa2>Linode is bulletproof and we love it for our managed clients
10:30<tafa2>(no cPanel here though)
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12:49<Eliz>ericoc: whm is cpanel
12:49<Eliz>/shrug
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15:04<scotti>Eliz: no whm is billing
15:04<scotti>cpanel is for management
15:17<dwfreed>I think you're thinking of WHMCS
15:18<dwfreed>Eliz: https://cpanel.com/products/ explains what's part of WHM
15:19<dwfreed>they're not sold separately, so it's very easy to see how it's just cPanel
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15:39<Eliz>dwfreed: scotti: WHM is cPanel and cPanel is WHM
15:39<Eliz>WHMCS is billing, and a very shitty third party product
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15:39<dwfreed>Eliz: see my link...
15:39<Eliz>WHM == Admin/root for cPanel
15:39<Eliz>dwfreed: WHM is cPanel, dunno how you can say it isn't :p
15:40<Eliz>it's the same product, just a different subsection of the same thing
15:40<Eliz>cPanel is the company, cPanel/WHM is a product under said company
15:40<Eliz>a singular product
15:40<dwfreed>meh, I'm not going to argue with you, because you don't care either
15:40<dwfreed>so *shrug*
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15:40<Eliz>dwfreed: :p
15:40<Eliz>dwfreed: easiest way to look at it, honestly, is that WHM is the administrator view, and cPanel is the user view
15:41<Eliz>but neither can function without the other, and it's sold as a single product
15:42<Eliz>under the name "cPanel" *shrug*
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19:13<coderphive>I just found a Linode sticker in one of my conference bags
19:40<FluffyFoxeh>I found a Linode in my drawer the other day
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19:50<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to linbot. (1337)
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19:51<linbot>The only limit is yourself.
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20:58<linbot>Karrde: Point taken from linbot! (1337)
20:58<Karrde>rigged
21:04<Ikaros>Ya think? :P
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