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04:01<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Where is the best place to buy Warmane Coins ? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15445&p=75058#p75058>
04:10<Woet>ah yes
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04:38<shiloh>Hi, I've purchased 2 linode vps(located in JP) and used them for 2 days, now I deleted them and change to a new one(located in US), will I be charged for the previous two vps?
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04:42<Woet>shiloh: why wouldn't you?
04:43<shiloh>Yeah, I do think so hah
04:44<hawk>shiloh: You will be charged for the time you had them, sure
04:46<shiloh>Exactly, fair enough
04:47<shiloh>thank you guys
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08:01<gamingdeval>hi
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08:17<Woet>Zimsky: ahu will ban us soon so talk here instead
08:17<Woet>we can make fun of Eugene's shitty towels
08:18<scotti>woooooter
08:18<Woet>?
08:18<Woet>please dont abuse my nick like that
08:18<Zimsky>no scotti
08:18<scotti>da w0000tz
08:18<scotti>w00000000000000000
08:19*Woet prepares the sedation
08:23<Zimsky>use all the propofol
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08:50<whitemice>I need to upgrade a host. The simplest way in this case is to create new host, transfer the data, and shutdown the old hose. To do that can I increase my account, create the other node, and then when I'm done *reduce* the account to the previous level? Just wondering if it is possible to down-grade accounts.
08:52<@jhaas>whitemice: You can add and remove linodes at any time. Plus they're billed hourly, so you'll only pay for them while they're actually active.
08:52<grawity>is upgrading/downgrading accounts even a thing?
08:52<dzho>accounts to linodes are not 1:1
08:52*jhaas admittedly made some assumptions
08:52<@jhaas>whiemice: You might also be interested in IP swapping - https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access#swapping-ip-addresses
08:52<dzho>ooooh
08:56<dzho>TIL.
08:57<dzho>jhaas: I find that in the legacy API but not in the new (v4) API.
08:57<grawity>hmm, linode migration time I guess
08:57<Woet>if only we had something that translates rememberable words to IP addresses
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08:57<Zimsky>^
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08:59<dzho>presumably it could be done through a series of steps, but as is the case with Woet's snark, multiple steps make for more complexity and fragility.
09:00<dzho>names typically occur in multiple places in a configuration. Depending on what one is doing, addresses typically less so.
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09:02<@jhaas>dzho: I *think* this is where https://developers.linode.com/v4/reference/endpoints/networking/ip-assign
09:02<@jhaas>but i haven't personally used it
09:03<dzho>jhaas: ah, thanks.
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11:57<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:20<terabyte>hey
12:21<terabyte>I have a linode account, which I manage myself, but there's another account that a friend of mine owns, for some reason I get notifications when he hasn't paid the bill. I have a ticket number can somebody assist me in removing my email address from this account?
12:22<smallclone>terabyte: if you have a ticket open about it, that's the way to handle it
12:23<smallclone>they don't discuss account details here
12:23<terabyte>yes but I can't access the ticket because I don't have the credentials to login
12:24<@scrane>It sounds like your friend is using your email address on the account, and they should change that.
12:24<smallclone>you're going to have a hard time getting your email removed from an account you can't auth for. you might want to ask your friend to remove you.
12:25<terabyte>man doesn't pay the bills, he's a lazy ****, you think he can be bothered to login? ;)
12:25<smallclone>otherwise, you know your email is on the account...so there's always the forgot username / forgot password route...not that i'm encouraging you to do that :)
12:25<@bmartin>At the very least have him give you his login. Without his confirmation we will not be able to make any changes to his account.
12:25<terabyte>why not?
12:26<terabyte>you can verify that I am who I say I am, send me an email to that address and remove it from the account since I own the email account
12:26<smallclone>because if you are not paying for the account (not that he is, apparently) then you are not the owner and you are not permitted to make changes or have them made for you
12:27<terabyte>yet he's permitted to sign up my email address for notifications?
12:27<terabyte>is this not a data protection thing at some level?
12:27<smallclone>seriously don't waste your time bickering with support people about policies that make sense and aren't going to change, just use your email to retrieve the username / password and then remove yourself
12:27<terabyte>smallclone: pipe down, you're not staff, the policy makes no sense, i can't use my email because my email is associated with another account.
12:28<@scrane>One thing you could do as well is respond to the billing email you get. That will be forwarded to Support, and we will be able teos ee what we can do for you there.
12:28<terabyte>scrane: that's great, thanks
12:28<smallclone>i don't see how...he'll be un-authed and will still need to provide the last 6
12:29<smallclone>but hey i'll PIPE DOWN
12:30<terabyte>smallclone: yes but I will be replying from the address which shouldn't be receiving mails. that's might be auth enough for them
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13:25<iali>greeting
13:25<iali>greetings
13:26<iali>Ihave a Question regarding Linode Disk Images
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13:27<iali>If I want to take images of the linodes I have, then delete them (the linodes) but keep the images for future use, can that be done? and at what cost?
13:28<dwfreed>iali: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh
13:29<iali>can't the image be at Linode servers. so that I can startup new nodes from them easily?
13:29<@mtjones>iali: We have an Images system that allows you to store images of up to 2GB in size and deploy them later. There's no cost, but the disk has to be under the 2GB limit.
13:29<dwfreed>yes, but that has a very low size limitation (2 GB)
13:29<iali>can my linode account host the images only without active linodes? and at what cost?
13:30<dwfreed>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-images
13:31<iali>So, linode doesn't currently offer to host images larger than 2GB of size with additional costs?
13:31<@mtjones>We also have a Block Storage beta, and you can create a disk volume of up to 1TB in size. We only have availability in our Fremont datacenter right now. Block Storage is free while it's in beta but when it goes live it'll be $0.10 per GB https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/how-to-use-block-storage-with-your-linode
13:31<dwfreed>correct
13:31<@mtjones>You wouldn't be able to directly deploy from a volume to a Linode however.
13:31<dwfreed>also it is beta, so it might eat your data
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14:04<@jspinosi>dwfreed it needs to feed to grow
14:05<dwfreed>just don't feed it after midnight
14:05<ericoc>what TZ
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14:17<FluffyFoxeh>and when is it no longer "after midnight"
14:18<@scrane>Also, never let it get wet.
14:19<FluffyFoxeh>if you get it wet your data multiplies
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14:19<FluffyFoxeh>that sounds okay. free backup.
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14:20<@scrane>But then the data gets all mean and stuff!
14:26<dwfreed>also never expose it to bright lights or sunlight
14:27<dwfreed>it's interesting that gizmo didn't change, just everybody spawned from him
14:27<dwfreed>I don't remember if the movie explained that
14:29<binaryatrocity>Can anyone recommend me a good terminal emulator with (regexp ideally) trigger support?
14:30<dwfreed>as in "this text got displayed, imma do something" ?
14:31<binaryatrocity>exactly, I'd like to spawn a xfce-notifyd toast message when a regexp gets matched
14:32<binaryatrocity>I was forced to do a brief stint on OSX at work and thats one feature i really liked out of iTerm, reminded me of a MUD client hehe
14:32<dwfreed>rxvt-unicode has perl scripting support, I believe (I seem to recall that's how the URL detection is implemented)
14:33<binaryatrocity>that could do, will scope that out thank you
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14:54<@scrane>dwfreed I think Gizmo didn't eat the food. He was the good mog'wai
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14:55<@scrane>The mean mog'wais changed the clock for the kid so he didn't think it was after midnight when he fed them, but Gizmo knew so he didn't eat and turn evil.
14:55<@jmetz>gizmo is my homey
14:58<dwfreed>scrane: the science teacher's mog'wai also changed
14:58<dwfreed>and I don't think it ate anything
14:58<FluffyFoxeh>I watched that movie in french class
14:58<FluffyFoxeh>in grade 7
14:58<FluffyFoxeh>lol
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14:58<@bmartin>in my french class we watched Le Petit Prince
14:59<@bmartin>would not recommend
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15:03<@scrane>I think the science teacher hears the warnings but gets curious and feeds his.
15:09<tafa2>I'm doing our accounts - and my European brain is about to explore
15:09<tafa2>*explode
15:10<tafa2>on your invoices 2016-08-01
15:10<tafa2>Is the 1st of August 2016 right?
15:10<dwfreed>yes
15:10<dwfreed>YYYY-MM-DD
15:10<tafa2>thank you
15:11<FluffyFoxeh>scrane: sounds like something a scientist would do
15:11<FluffyFoxeh>https://xkcd.com/242/
15:21<kyhwana>ISO8601 || gtfo
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16:00<yan>hello
16:01<smallclone>hello
16:01<smallclone>feel free to ask your question
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16:01<smallclone>fair enough
16:02<@bmartin>kthx baiii
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17:31<rockfreak>Hello, Can someone tell me exactly services are included in the managed service?
17:32<rockfreak>I see it mentioned backups so would that be the equivalent of the backup addons?
17:32<@scrane>That is correct! The Linode Backup service is included with the Linode Managed service
17:33<rockfreak>And I can have cpanel included in the price?
17:33<@scrane>Yes, you get one free cpanel license included.
17:34<rockfreak>Are you able to offer any of the addon licences for cpanel or would they need to be obtained separately (litespeed, cloud linux)?
17:34<@scrane>They would need to be obtained separately.
17:35<rockfreak>Do you have any idea of the base disk space cpanel and whm use? Just want to work out how much "client space" I'd have on certain packages?
17:35<@scrane>Hmmmm let me double check I don't know off the top of my head.
17:41<@scrane>So I don't know how much the cPanel installation adds on, but I just deployed a fresh install of CentOS7 and that is ~1.2GB of disk space
17:42<@scrane>Beyond that, I think this guide might help. https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/ALD/Installation+Guide+-+System+Requirements#InstallationGuide-SystemRequirements-Filesystems
17:43<@scrane>And this forum suggests about 3-4GB. https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1349798
17:44<rockfreak>I shall have a read up
17:44<rockfreak>Thank you for your help
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19:54<Guest262>Hi
19:54<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • ★Invia World GmbH★ Mining 2.0 in Austria! <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15446&p=75059#p75059>
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19:57<new_user>I want to know how many node.js apps I can install on a linux server
19:58<new_user>specifically, how many node apps can be run on the $5/mon linode hosting?
20:00<FluffyFoxeh>It depends. You'll have to test it
20:00<FluffyFoxeh>Or make a guesstimate based on some data you have about your app's typical resource usage
20:01<new_user>Thank you, so it is possible to host multiple apps on on linode server?
20:01<FluffyFoxeh>It's just a linux system, so yes
20:02<new_user>great, thank you!
20:02<FluffyFoxeh>:)
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20:06<Guest262>Hi, I'm sorry for my bad english, but I'm try :D
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20:06<MrPPS>Hi Guest262
20:07<Guest262>currently, I have a domain (compraventasegura.com.co) and required this domain in my vps
20:07<Guest262>I read https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-manager-overview
20:10<Guest262>but when I mask url linode don't support the name
20:10<Guest262>for example
20:11<Guest262>I write www.compraventasegura.com.co in my browser for redirect to my vps
20:11<Guest262>but linode don't show this domain
20:11<Guest262>You understand?
20:12<MrPPS>So are you saying that you've added compraventasequra.com.co into your linode DNS manager
20:12<MrPPS>and then you've added A records for your website
20:12<MrPPS>but it doesn't go to your linode?
20:13<Guest262>yes
20:13<MrPPS>Okay, how long ago did you do this?
20:13<Guest262>yesterday
20:13<MrPPS>And did you tell your domain name registrar to look to linode's DNS servers?
20:14<MrPPS>Currently it's still saying it's using orderbox-dns.com nameservers
20:14<Guest262>yes, I use this https://www.clickpanda.com/
20:15<MrPPS>Okay, and in clickpanda.com, you changed your domain to use nameservers ns1.linode.com through to ns5.linode.com?
20:15<Guest262>I enable this option: Enabling URL masking will ensure that your visitors see the URL of the source and not the destination URL
20:18<Guest262>a momment please, while I chat whit area support of click panda
20:25<MrPPS>Guest262: No worries. Sounds like maybe you haven't changed the domain's nameservers. You'll need to change the nameservers to point at Linode, otherwise you won't be looking to Linode for your records
20:25<MrPPS>Which means any changes you make in Linode DNS will no work/be seen
20:25<MrPPS>will not work*
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20:46<Guest262>thanks so much MrPPS
20:46<Guest262>I read that guide https://www.clickpanda.com/knowledgebase/26/iComo-cambiar-mis-Nameservers.html
20:48<MrPPS>Excellent, that is the right guide
20:49<MrPPS>Happy to help :)
20:49<MrPPS>Now you'll just be waiting for the changes to propogate around the world :)
20:51<Guest262>yes
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22:15<Edon>Hello
22:15<Edon>I'd like to transfer my website to linode
22:16<Edon>but we tried many times, but it did not work
22:16<Edon>i do not know why, could you help me ?
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22:38<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel
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23:55<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Google Gmail Login Gmail Account <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15449&p=75062#p75062>
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